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Ender's Game's Orson Scott Card Still Hoping for a Movie Adaptation

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clayton_neuman_callout.jpgHugo winning novelist Orson Scott Card discusses his recently released Ender sequel Ender in Exile, dishes on the movie and explains why he never wants to be a filmmaker.

Q: Tell me about Ender in Exile. Why did you return to this story?

A: I keep thinking I'm done. Ender's Game ends with a dreamy kind of summary of Ender's life after the war. It was interesting stuff, but I hadn't really developed it, and I realized there was a story there about soldiers who can't come home. The soldiers that we send off to war right now -- the ones who live, come home. But in ancient times you could end up spending your life in a place that is so far from home. So with Ender himself being an exile, unable to come home, as was established in the novel, I thought there was a story there that really mattered.

Q: Do you ever worry you'll contradict yourself with such a growing library of Ender stories?

A: I don't reread my own work. I had not even given Ender's Game a close reading when I was writing the screenplay. I'm really dealing with things that were said in all the books. There were things that were dropped in, comments that were made in later books that all have to be taken into account. But I have the best group of pre-editors in the world, which is my online community. What I do is post the question that I have, and they answer. They're happy, because they love the story and they want to see it work right.

Q: The latest draft of the screenplay incorporates elements of Ender's Game as well as Ender's Shadow. Why combine them?

A: The real problem with adapting the book to screenplay has always been that screen is terrible at getting inside people's heads. Everything that makes you understand Ender and makes you care about him depends on being inside his head. If you just see what he does and you don't understand what he's thinking, he's just this incredibly scary, violent, dangerous kid. I couldn't have Ender become suddenly talky about what he's doing. But I can give him a rival who then becomes a friend. And what that is -- that's the plot of a buddy movie. And Hollywood knows how to make buddy movies.

Q: This year saw the announcement of an Ender's Game video game as well as a Marvel comic. Why the sudden resurgence?

A: It actually took an incredibly short amount of time once we'd detached the rights from the movie. The movie people always want to control the rights. But I don't need the movie to sell the comic book. The book sells the comic book, and the comic book sells itself because it's a great comic. The bonus is that the comic is a visualization, so the people in the studios who don't know how to read scripts -- which is most of them -- are seeing pictures and know how it can be done.

Q: You also worked with Marvel on your Ultimate Iron Man series. Why did you choose that title?

A: I really hate superhero comics. Then Marvel comes to me with this character, and when they told me what it was I said, "Wow, that is even dumber than most superhero comics." This guy is the head of a multi-million dollar international corporation -- that's a full-time job. He is also a scientist-inventor-engineer -- that's a full-time job. And he wears a suit and goes out and save people? But then I found out I could give him a childhood -- that's what I do. So that worked for me. I literally can't write a story I don't believe in. I sit there staring at the screen and nothing happens. I have to wait until I believe in it.

Q: You wrote the novelization for James Cameron's The Abyss. What did you learn from that experience?

A: Actually, what helped me was seeing how The Abyss was deformed by the studio. We had a terrific director at the top of his form bringing in a movie that was going to be too long. And because of the way that Hollywood works, that meant he had to either cut it himself or let them cut it. You can start with a great script, a really talented director who has enormous clout and still get a really bad ending. So what I realized was, I'm glad a novelist. Because when I say a book is done, it's done.

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Is it me, or is Orson coming across as amazingly arrogant?

"I don't reread my own work"
"...screen is terrible at getting inside people's heads"
"The bonus is that the comic is a visualization, so the people in the studios who don't know how to read scripts -- which is most of them -- are seeing pictures and know how it can be done."
"I really hate superhero comics"
"Wow, that is even dumber than most superhero comics."
"Actually, what helped me was seeing how The Abyss was deformed by the studio"

This guy wants to keep on working with the studios and the comic book publishers?

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As the person who spoke to him, I don't think he came across that way at all. He struck me as extremely determined with a specific vision of how he wanted his work to be treated. Keep in mind this is someone whose script for Ender's Game has been floating around Hollywood for YEARS, which is enough to give anyone a bit of a grudge. And as for the superhero bit -- I think it's pretty amazing for someone who approached a comic from a negative perspective to turn it around into something that's acutally pretty terrific.

Not that I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here, just offering my perspective.

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Orson Scott Card is a renowned sexist, and people of authority should not promote people like him.

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Clayton,

thanks for the clarification - but of course, the 'tone' you heard does not translate into print.

To tell the truth, I read the interview because I was interested to see if you were going to raise the kinds of issues that Eric (comment #3) mentioned.

But I'll deal with what you've given us. Perhaps his script has been floating around for years because the folks who have optioned it came to see the kind of character I thought was coming through in the review.

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The fact is, there are certain things he's said in the past that have gotten him into trouble. We all know what he's said. To what degree he believes them seems a bit irrelevant to me. It's all just gossip fodder. I guess I was just much more curious about his projects than his philosophies -- it is why we talk to him, why we read his work...

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