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What is Don gonna do when he finds out?
For those of you who are still around.
What happens when Don finds out that Peggy has been sleeping with Duck? Even if she ends it with Duck it still feels like betrayal on her part especially now that she knows that Don does have some respect for her.I hope he never finds out.










Don finding out is a terrible thought! If he does find out I think it will be Duck who spills the beans. There are many unspoken things between Peggy and Don and so far they seem to trust each other to keep confidences. Duck would be low enough to use it as a leverage against Peggy somehow.
Sunday nights are just not the same...I'm having withdrawal pains!
I don't think he is going to find out. I believe Peggy is through with Duck, but I do think Duck will be in Season 4. Probably trying to do stuff to undermine Don when he finds out about the new SCDP, and the D does not stand for Duck!
He may be happy at Gray, but he still hates Don Draper.
I for one, wouldn't put anything past Duck!
I still get nauseous thinking about him and Peggy.....ick is putting it mildly....
I think you're right, SCfan. We haven't seen the last of Duck. The episode where Don finds out about Peggy and Duck should be an episode that will have our T.V.'s bursting into flames.
Can you all imagine what Don might conjure up to get ol' Duck?
...it might just make the oysters-martinis-"broken" elevator-revenge lunch he did to Roger look like nuthin' before he's through.
Personally, I can't wait!
Maybe it's Duck who ends up taking that 20-story dive we've seen so many times!
Geronimooooooooooo....
Splat!
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i don't think p or d would care what don would think feel or do if he found out about them. it's none of his bees wax
I don't think he would care. I disagree that it is any kind of betrayal. She is not, never has been romantically involved with Don. Duck was trying to get her to go to Gray. She didn't. Then she had sex with him.
Personally... I seem to recall a night of infidelity on Don's part with Bobbi when they both got into a car wreck. Don had to rely upon Peggy's discretion in keeping that secret; she's holding all the aces in her hand.. not Don. He owes her.. big time, because she had to cough up her hard earned money to save his ass. Not to mention, she took Bobbi into her home to cover for her as well. So...
Don is Peggy's "boss" so to speak, not her father. And she should tell him as much should the subject even become a subject. Then to top it all off, she took Bobbi into her home to help patch her up as well; a "two-fer"
As long as she continues doing her job, what should he care anyhow? Much as I love Don, he's the LAST one to be casting negative aspersions; at least Peggy's NOT married.
Personally... I seem to recall a night of infidelity on Don's part with Bobbi when they both got into a car wreck. Don had to rely upon Peggy's discretion in keeping that secret; she's holding all the aces in her hand.. not Don. He owes her.. big time, because she had to cough up her hard earned money to save his ass. Not to mention, she took Bobbi into her home to cover for her as well. So...
Don is Peggy's "boss" so to speak, not her father. And she should tell him as much should the subject even become a subject. Then to top it all off, she took Bobbi into her home to help patch her up as well; a "two-fer"
As long as she continues doing her job, what should he care anyhow? Much as I love Don, he's the LAST one to be casting negative aspersions; at least Peggy's NOT married.
It's none of Don's business. Why would he care? Pete is the one who's reaction you should be wondering about. He would definitely care about Peggy and Duck.
It's none of Don's business. Why would he care? Pete is the one who's reaction you should be wondering about. He would definitely care about Peggy and Duck.
The above comment are all based on the personal. However, there is a professional angle to Peggy and Duck's relationship. There is an unwritten rule in the creative professions (advertising, radio, script writing, theater, movie making, etc) requiring one to not fraternize with the enemy (competition). Grey is a competing ad agency. Duck and Peggy are professional adversaries. It is legitimate for people to question what trade secrets might be divulged during pillow talk. If Don were to find out about Peggy's relationship with Duck he would question her professional loyalty. It would put her job at risk. It could force her to accept a position at Grey (assuming one was ever available as opposed to that being a ploy by Duck to get her into bed in the first place). If Peggy has any sense she will understand that her current relationship with Duck is untenable from a professional standpoint and will immediately break it off and hope like hell no one ever finds out about it.
Don will find out. It is too good a storyline not too. I don't see Peggy telling Don to mind his own business. MM is not that far into the 60's yet. Remember Don's philandering put his personal life in Jeopardy but not the business.
It doesn't matter if Peggy tells the world the story about Bobbi: RobinDee, did you forgot that Don and Betty kinda got divorced last season?
Furthermore it's logical that not only Don, but also the rest of SCDP would fire Peggy, since she's indeed -like bipolarbear said- fraternizing with the competition. Just imagine the kind of valuable information about SCDP Peggy could spill to Gray.
Most of you are looking at this topic on a level that's way to personal. The meaning for business is what counts.
Hi, Blue Runner, great topic. I just love this show!!! I agree with most of your points, but Don didn't say that he couldn't do it without her (Peggy), what he said was that he didn't know if he could do it alone, and would she help him. It did take a lot for Don to humble himself to Peggy, especially after the way he treated her this past season. I think it was harder for him to go to her, than Roger or Pete, because he knew that he had behaved disgracefully towards her and he was ashamed to acknowledge it. He was also trying to let her know at last, how much he appreciates her drive and talent.
Also, he wasn't ordered to hire Duck. I haven't watched the 1st season in a while, but I remember that after Roger's heart attack (wasn't it the second one?), Bert appointed Don the only member of the "Blue Ribbon Committee" to choose the new head of accounts. Don chose Duck for whatever reason, after Pete pushed and threatened him. It's not really clear exactly why he chose Duck, we only know that there is no way he would have chose Pete because he didn't feel that Pete had earned it or was ready for it (even before the blackmail attempt).
I'd rather see Peggy with a younger man but at least Duck is single, although he is divorced-still a no no for Catholics of that era.
I also don't think Don will find out about Peggy and Duck - Peggy is too smart for her indiscretions to be found out. No one knew about her and Pete. And speaking of Pete, I really am dying to see how Peggy and Pete working so closely together now (sharing a desk in the hotel room) is going to affect their already weird relationship. Last season, their relationship was barely touched upon. Hope to see more of the two of them in Season 4.
If Don were to find out about "DuckPeg" I think that it would be a sayanara Peggy. I think that we are naive to believe that Peggy would be held to the same standards as Don, Pete, or Roger. It is 1963 afterall and office client affairs favor the men than the women. This is true today as well, a premiscuous woman is not seen the same way as a premiscuous man. Its apples versus oranges. Sterling, Cooper, Draper, & Price is a new agency and cannot take any chances given the fact that the agency literally had to be cobbled together. Let us not forget that Don himself said that he sees Peggy as an extension of himself. Yes he is able to compartmentalize the people and events in his life, but I think that this is a little too much for him to digest. Pete and Peggy would be a crisis - Duck and Peggy is a nuclear disaster. Peggy is the only woman in his life who has a constant presence - she is his confidant, and his protoge. Don finding out about Duck and Peggy would be akin to Duck stealing and vandalizing his property, the mind set is akin to an honor killing and its not about Peggy but rather the idea of someone who has humiliated you and is beneath you "one uping you". Don appears to be a proud person and would not stand for such a thing. Yes Peggy did help him with Bobby and saved him from ruin but this is completely different.
I think that Don would hit the roof. Don finding out about Pete and Peggy is a crisis, Don finding out about "DuckPeg" is akin to a nuclear disaster. It would be bye-bye Peggy. A promiscuous woman is seen differently than a promiscuos man. Yes, it is unfair but that is just how the world worked in 1963 (and still does to an extent). Don himself said that he sees Peggy as a an extension of himself. if he were to learn about Duck and Peggy's affair it is possible that he would fire peggy. Sterling, Cooper, Draper and Pryce is a new agency and given the fact that he had to cobble together clients and money -- Peggy's liason with Duck is a liability and there is just too much at stake. Peggy's relationship with Don is complicated, she is his confidant, his protege and she is the only constant woman in his life. Sure she helped with the Bobby Barett fiasco but I think that this is more like to an honor killing. Its not about Peggy but rather Duck defacing and destroying Don's property.
You guys are right--different standards for business relationships and sleeping around by women back then. She'd be history. Peggy did help Don out with the Bobby Barett thing, but wasn't that payback for his discretion when she had the baby, and he was there for her? I'd say they're even on that point. Besides, Don never lets anything stand in the way of business mores.