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Veterans Day 11/11/09

Let's remember those who have served and continue to serve, putting themselves in peril for us. Thank you to them!

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Depending on when the Korean Conflict (war) ended --1955? 56?--America enjoyed only about 10-15 years of not being at war anywhere, until the troop build-up in Viet Nam began in earnest. I'm fuzzy on the actual dates (years), but I know for a fact that military "advisors" were being sent to South Viet Nam as early as 1962. And maybe earlier. So from the end of the Korean War to the Cuban Missle Crisis and the Viet Nam build-up was the time frame of no foreign war.

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"Let's remember those who have served and continue to serve, putting themselves in peril for us"

For Wall Street banksters and for oil ; for lies and for myths.

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And for saving France not once but twice, FrenchFan.

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For saving the dollar, not for democracy and freedom; like in Irak.


"Why Do We Fight?
Apparently, Not for Freedom"
by Amy Jenniges

http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Content?oid=37393&category=22133

"A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order"
~ F. William Engdahl
www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net

"William Engdahl takes the reader through a history of the oil industry's grip on the world economy. His revelations are startling. Moving from the post-World War I period up to the present day, he shows how oil is -- and has always been -- the motivating factor in international policy and conflicts."
http://www.studien-von-zeitfragen.net/Zeitfragen/Century_of_War/century_of_war.html

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@takefive-Thank you for posting this in order to remember all veterans and active duty soldiers.

My father served in Vietnam as a Med Evac and Rescue helicopter pilot, an air ambulance that was dedicated to saving lives. He actually saw his best friend get shot down and says the hardest thing was bringing his body home to his wife. He says he lost a brother. After that, he returned to Vietnam and was eventually given the Distinguished Flying Cross for rescuing several troops under heavy fire.

It is sad that the soldiers from Vietnam didn't get the recognition they so deserved after coming home. Please everyone, take the time to thank a Vet or soldier for their service!

Happy Veterans Day!!

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@FrenchFan: Sorry, but I'm not interested in substantively commenting on your repetetive posting of links.

Bye bye.

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@jeffe64: Thank you for taking the time to share the moving and heroic account of your father's service in Vietnam. This is Veterans Day, after all, and it grows more meaningful to me as time passes.

I agree that it is sad (a tragedy really) that Vietnam soldiers did not get the recognition and thanks they deserved upon coming home from that devastating war. To me, it's another dark spot in our Country's history--that we failed to welcome them home as heroes at the time. How unfortunately common it is to see clearly only in hindsight, and to look back and regret. A lot of people don't do it, I guess, because it's too painful.

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@takefive-this sight is sooo slow!! Thank you for your wonderful post before mine. I was afraid your left because of the others!!!

As you can tell, I am sooooo proud of my father! He has actually written his memoirs about his life in Vietnam and his wonderful life as a small country boy that would make everyone wish to live that life again!!! I was actually born in Germany while my parents were stationed there. You had stated in your thread about soldiers being sent over in 1962...you are correct..My parents got married and were instantly shipped off to Germany!!

Thank you again for honoring those who serve for us!!!

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jeffe64: How great that your Dad is writing his memoirs --that will be treasured in your family for generations to come, I'm sure; plus significant historical value.

Career military folks are some of the finest I've met. It's a pleasure to hear of your dad and how proud you are of him! A very happy Veterans Day story for me.

Keep posting, and it's so nice to connect with you! See you around the threads!

P.S. And if your Dad's memoirs are published, please let me know; it sounds like something I would definitly want to read!

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@takefive- I have tried to post before - but for some reason it doesn't post!! So I apologize beforehand if this posts more than once!

Thank you again for posting this and for being so kind and considerate of Veterans Day! As you can tell, I am very proud of my father. He is an amazing father, story teller, teacher and retired professor of aeronautics. His former students say, after reading his memoirs, that is why they loved his class because he taught like he wrote. He painted you in the picture as if you were there!!! ( I know some of you have heard me quote him before)

Anyway!!! Takefive--Thank you once again for this thread to honor Veterans Day!!! I look so forward to posting and connecting with you again very soon!!!! Take care!!!

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TakeFive.... THANK YOU so much for creating this thread to recognize our service men and women.... all honor and gratitude to them, especially on this day of remembrance. In my experience, what happened with our Vietnam Vets was the beginning of America learning to not confuse the warrior with the war..or the mission. It has taken a long time, but progress is made.

Jeffe64...how nice to hear about your dad and his service. I have worked with a veterans advocacy group for a number of years and have heard much about the MedEvacs... the most welcome of sights! Thanks again to your dad from a member of his generation.

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There are two kinds of military veteran...

America Owned by Its Army
By William Pfaf

November 08, 2009 -- "TMS" -- Paris, November 3, 2009 – It is possible that the creation of an all-professional American army was the most dangerous decision ever taken by Congress.
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the U.S. army from the start of the Second World War to the end of Vietnam was effectively a democratic army, with civilian conscripts, and the majority of its non-commissioned and commissioned officers peacetime civilians, with solid commitments to civilian society, often with families at home –- doing their temporary (or “for the war’s duration”) patriotic duty.

Professional armies have often been considered a threat to their own societies.
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The new army also has political ambitions. It now dominates U.S. foreign relations with a thousand bases worldwide and regional commanders like imperial proconsuls. [...] The last general who became American president was Dwight Eisenhower. He is the one who warned Americans against “the military-industrial complex.”

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23916.htm