I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THIS

I would like real time chat for this program.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN TO BETTY

After the teacher's late night prank calls are hung up on by Don and she starts appearing at his home, work, and even his meetings, I would like Betty to divorce his philandering ass. Then I would like to see her marry a man who really appreciates her and treats her like a queen. Or I would like to see her get a job and start taking care of her family by herself. Either would satisfy me.

in episode 11 doesn't anyone

find it funny that Don would tell Betty "you have about $200 in your bank account so you should be good"

Happy Halloween to all Maddicts!

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Musical theme for Suzanne Farrell

What is the name of, and where can I download, the gorgeous piano leitmotif/theme that plays when Suzanne Farrell appears in an episode?

Memo To Matt Weiner From The Madaddicts Posting On The Open Thread

Believe it or not, posters on The Open Thread have some complaints and suggestions. Here they are:

Is Mad Men "racist?"

An occasional visitor to our GradSem, D'Thommas, angrily denounces Mad Men for its "marginalization of Afrimericans." DT, as we all know him, is outraged that the show's black characters are elevator operators and house servants. Known throughout campus for his low-riding trousers and aggrieved rants about "races (sic "racist") slave-traders" in our faculty and administration, DT is not at all placated by hearing that his "peopolds" were in fact low-level service workers in the early 1960s. This show, he screeches hoarsely, in on the air in 2009. History, he demands, must be "re-done" to advance the "Constitutional imperatives of otherness." Should next season's cast be 20% African-Americans, including the Sterling Cooper executives and the Drapers' Westchester County neighbors, as DT insists?

Prices in 1963

Does anyone know the price of a martini in 1963?

The infamous pink elephant - where else is it found?

Here is your challenge...We know a pink elephant was on the mantle at Pete's mom's house. Where else does a pink elephant appear?

The Return of the Teacher

I am not sure what future Matt Weiner has planned for Don and his teacher, but if he wants to bring her back at some time in the next few years, he has a perfectly good and plausible excuse. There is a very good chance that Bobby will be in her class some day. I can't remember what grade she teaches, but I can certainly imagine Bobby telling his father some night at dinner(assuming Don asks him how school went that day) "I'm going to have Miss Farrell for my teacher next year. Sally says she is really nice." The parent/teacher conferences will take on a whole new meaning.

Do You Know Of Fairness Doctrine?

Why in a free country is there censorship on here? I thought television is controlled by FCC.

Rethinking Miss Farrell

Hello dearest Maddicts,
I've since watched the last episode 'The Hobo & The Gypsy' twice now, which what I normally like to do, to take it all in, spin it around in my brain a bit, and then reflect on all the little nuances, the growth in the characters, plot lines, etc. There was SO much to love in this last episode, it was harder for me to digest it in one piece...and so, just like my meals, I took smaller bite sized pieces, and mulled a few of the ingredients on my palette.
One thing I keep coming back to is Miss Farrell, or Suzanne, if you will.
Leave it to Weiner and his writing talent to create tension and build up, in regards to someone I summed up to be a 'bunny boiler'. The little things she said that made my head spin around, the little possessive inserts towards Don, the unknown caller at the Drapers that resulted in a hang-up, the way she narrowed her eyes at Don and wrapped her arms around him possessively....that was it. I was sold: hook, line and sinker, she was the perfect storm that wreak havoc over Don's life.
But she didn't.
In fact, in the last pillow talk session they had, she pulled away from Don, telling him she walked into it with her eyes wide open, and to let the feeling pass. What threw me for a loop was that it was DON reeling her back in, telling her HE didn't want it to pass, and asking her to take a week off from work, so that they could spend time together!
From that conversation, and when she ducked down in the front seat, as Don went inside, what worried me is that she might come up to the house and look inside the kitchen window, thus catching Betty's eye, where the fit would REALLY hit the shan for Don. But I quickly dismissed that, as the secret box scene was already a huge event and enough drama for the moment...but I did wonder, while all that was going on inside, what Suzanne would do...would she leave a note, wait a bit longer...what would she do??
Again, I was happily surprised to see she slipped out of the car when the coast was clear, and headed home. I felt that she knew something big was going on inside, and it was best if she not complicate the situation.
When Don ended it with her (well, he said "for now")over the phone, I thought, though she was tearful, and it was pretty clear to me Suzanne had fallen in love with Don, she stepped away gracefully. There wasn't a fight, or any big dramatic scene. I loved that she asked Don if he was ok. A selfish person, as I initially thought her to be, would never ask "Are YOU ok?", but they would be simply concerned with how this would affect them.
I was really impressed with Suzanne, and I've rethought my whole opinion of her, that she's actually a good person, who is probably lonely, and longs for the type of life that Betty and the other mothers around her have.
I'm still shaking my head at the 180 degree shift Suzanne took in my whole estimation of her!
What are your thoughts about her, Maddicts? I'm curious to hear your feedback on this!

SONGS FROM 1964

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Whether you're a Betty Draper-lover, hater, or in-between...here's a must read article. See link in "Comments."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2009/10/complexity_beauty_and_the_unde.html

JFK Assassination Memories

I am especially interested in memories of people born in 1956 & 1957, but please post even if you weren't born in those 2 years. Please say how old you were.

Memo To Matt Weiner From The Open Thread Madaddicts

This may surprise you, Mr. Weiner, but fans of the show, posting on The Open Thread, are doing some serious complaining and would like to be heard. The following suggestions are just our way to say, "Please let us help you with the writing of Season 4". Here's some suggestions of what we'd like to see:

The Beatles! 1964 Ed Sullivan Show Memories

The Beatles arrived in the U.S., for their first time as a group, in February 1964. Their first appearance was on CBS' The Ed Sullivan Show on February 9, 1964. fter the show's opening, Ed read a telegram he said had been sent to The Beatles by Elvis Presley, welcoming them to the United States, and wishing them "Good LucK". The Beatles were thrilled because Elvis was one of their early Rock & Roll idols (especially John). The Beatles performed the following songs on the show: "All My Loving", "'Til There Was You" (without knowing it, their first names had been inserted at the bottom of the TV screen, as each was given a close-up) and "She Loves You". There was then a break for the "Liverpool Lads", while the rest of the show went on. They returned from the lackluster beginning, with a " hard rocker" which always brought down the house: "I Saw Her Standing There". Refreshed, & no longer nervous, they sang, screamed, shook their heads which made their "Beatle cuts" go flying (every boy in America suddenly felt his crew cut start to grow) and stamped their feet on the stage. Their stamping was an homage to their early days playing in Hamburg, Germany, where, when they were booked into the same strip club as Rory Storm & The Hurricanes (which featured the best drummer on the Liverpool Merseybeat:, Richard Starkey, Jr., or Ringo Starr, as he was known), also from Liverpool, & had a standing bet w/ the Hurricanes to see which group could stamp a hole in the rotting wood stage first (The Hurricanes won.) George Harrison was seriously ill while on The Ed Sullivan Show's stage. The minute that The Beatles arrived in America, George became ill w/ the flu, and his sister, who lived in St. Louis, was flown-up to take care of George, while The Beatles stayed at the Plaza Hotel. That night on stage, during their performance of "I Saw Her Standing There", George, who had been injected w/ so many amphetamines by the hotel doctor so that he could actually stand and perform, felt the speed hit right during this song's performance, and in an unforgetable spirited performance, plays his guitar solo w/ great enthusiasm. For Richard Starkey Jr.,his performance during this version of "I Saw You Standing There", was his personal favorite, and the filmed and Live performance is that which he considers his best Live performance ever. As he is drumming, Ringo can be seen having the greatest time of his life, and he can clearly be seen yelling "Whoa" and "Yeah". The Beatles finish their second set w/ "I Want To Hold Your Hand". When their manager made the deal to have this song recorded, the record company execs insisted Brian Epstein sign a deal that the song would sell 700,0000 copies, in order to be a bona fide hit. Epstein signed the contract w/ his hand shaking. Could his boys do it? In the early new year, of 1964, the Lennon and McCartney single, "I Want To Hold Your Hand", sold 13 Million copies, worldwide. I was on the floor in front of the TV set on February 9, 1964, at age 7, because my 9 year old sister and 11 year old sister, were there, too! I've always been grateful that they included me as one of the 76 Million people who watched The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show that night. What are your memories of the show and The Beatles? Which cast members of mad Men will be watching The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show, and why? What are their reactions to The Beatles?

ADT Recap 11

Grab your horse kabobs and a clean pair of underpants. ADT Recap 11 is up. Link in comments.

Haloweening 1960's style.

I grew up in the early 1960's and was Sally's age in 1963. It was a small town to be sure, but PARENTS were never along for Halloween! We travelled to three or four streets other than our own. Always looking for the house that gave the best candy.
But parents? No way ,they would only cramp our style! I realize the world was safer back then But MM is set during this time and I just thought Don and Betty going with the kids was not keeping with the realism. At least that was my experience as a kid. I can even remember what I wore in '63. It was a Cleopatra costime with a mask that looked like Elizabeth Taylor! That movie was big that year. I'd love to hear from all the talented posters...your thoughts/comments/memories.
And...HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!

Bring Sal Back

I think it was unfair to write Sal out of the show like that. I'm starting a petition for people who think that Sal should be brought back on the show. I for one thing he was a vital part of the Sterling cooper team.

who's with me

IT'S TIME FOR BETTY'S MISDEEDS TO BE AIRED

I read about all of the sympathy for Betty on this message board. Let's not forget that she had her affairs as well. And I do mean that in plural. Kissing another man counts as infidelity in my eyes. Don is walking around thinking he has this innocent child-like woman at home raising his children, when Betty has such a devious, hidden side. I will never forget how she set up her friend to have an affair. She has her good moments, but Don needs to know that he isn't the only one that has disrespected their marriage. After watching the last episode, I was shocked how cold and unaffectionate she was when Don was crying. What woman who loves her man wouldn't reach for him and hold him in her arms. That was Don in his weakest moment and all she could do was lay a hand on his shoulder like a distant stranger. This marriage is as empty as it can be with two self absorbed characters. I like the new storyline with Roger and Annabelle a lot more than watching Don and Betty fake their marriage.

What brand hat does Don wear?

Dobbs or Knox? Mad Men is happening at the time the men's hat business started a quick death.

what is your favorite MM scene from each season?

ok - saw this question posted on fb and thought i would put it out on the boards as well. I'll get the conversation started and post my three fav scenes.

Since MW and his crew of all star writers still have two epis left to wow us, i have to say that as of today, the maypole scene is one of the most beautiful and provocative pieces of television i have ever watched. Sally in her white dress with blue sash and don the image of male perfection in his aviators, and of course, the sensual stroke of grass that had so many of us talking!

season 2 would be the infamous dinner when don showed bobby who was calling the shots. so shocking i asked my husband if AMC was cable television! later in the epi, betty endearingly tells don they made a great team, and for the first time i felt truly sad for betty.

season 1 betty getting to "know" her washing machine - the irony of don being an "adonis" in the bedroom yet so out of touch with his wife's needs. i'm sure don would never expect his wife to find her own version of the "relaxacisor" .

Mad Men Kaffe Klatch

What will we be eating and drinking?

For Advertising Purists

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/business/media/26adnewsletter2.html?_r=1&8ad&emc=seiaa2

She May Be Spoiled!!!!!!

Betty made/sewed those Halloween Costumes!!!!!!!!!!

ARE YOU DRINKING THE REAL STOLI?

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/apr2006/gb20060407_359060.htm

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I am in the final round, and I need to be in the top ten to be considered by Mathew Weiner to appear on the show! Isn't that exciting?

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Betty bitchslapped Don!

Wow! What riveting television this past episode. Betty took no prisoners when she took Don to task for his long tenure of deception! That scene was powerful.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

Don stops cheating on his wife and he concentrates on his family and career. Roger can pick up where he left off with Joan but only a more serious romance that leads to marriage. The child Roger married goes back to Trenton. We see more of Roger's mother. We see more of Bert. The limeys go away and Duck drowns along with Peggy.

Random Miss Farrell thought...

If Betty and the kids hadn't returned from Philly early, Don and Suzanne would've been cozying up in Norwich. Now I know that Don can skip off from work for days on end, but how easy would it be for a schoolteacher in those days? And even if she could get away from work, I thought it kind of weird that Suzanne -- who despite her faults seems to truly love nurturing children's minds -- would cut work and leave town and miss Halloween, such a magical and important day in a kiddie calendar.

Favorite Halloween Costume

Stroll down memory lane with me to the days when you planned and created your Halloween costume at home with the help of your mother, father or other creative neighborhood person.

What costume were you wearing in 1963, or what costume was your favorite during your childhood years? I'm most interested in hearing about those costumes made at home (not purchased from retail stores). Who made the costume for you? Did you ever wish to be something at Halloween and never had your wish fulfilled? Or, did you have costume envy where you had to wear something you didn't like while someone (or everyone) else was wearing something you felt was really 'neat!'

Tell us about it!.....

Follow all 50+ Mad Men on Twitter on one site

Maybe some of you are interested in this, maybe not, but here is a link to follow all the Mad Men on twitter at one location: http://www.madmentwitter.com

"Are you having anything"

Is this the first time Don seemed to respect Betty? The look on Sally D's face was priceless. Is there hope for Don...Has coming clean to Betty exorcised the demons???? In the end as the neighbor said "And who are you supposed to be!!!!!"

A DISHONEST MAN LIVES HERE

When that teacher got up with her suitcase and left her hiding place (the car), it reminded me of the hobo leaving Don'ts father's house. Only he wasn't a sneaky person. The only thing that sneaky woman didn't do was leave a mark outside Don's house. Unless you can consider her the mark outside the Draper household because their neighbors might have seen her ducking down in the car like the predator she is.

Season 3/Episode 12 Opening Scene Predictions/Don & Betty predictions/R

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A Most Telling Line....

I agree with so many posters that this was one of the best episodes yet. It was so dense with story and character and was a lot to absorb. There is so much to comment on, but one line in particular really resonated with me. When Greg tells Joan he's joined the Army, he says that he will be sent somewhere, maybe Viet Nam, "if that's still going on"....A very pointed piece of dialogue, that says without saying, what was to come; a 14 year, never-declared, senseless war.

AWARD WINNING EPISODE OF THE SEASON ON SO MANY LEVELS

Oct 25th ep was the best of the season. Don Hamm deserves an award. I 've always liked the teacher. I felt sorry for her waiting in the car. I just knew that when Don was upstairs and he said "I'm in here Betts" and the camera zoomed to the doorway there was an anticipiation, i wanted it to be Suzanne walking up the stairs, but it turned out to be Betty. Talk about climatic. She had no idea Betty and the kids would be back so soon, I thought she would have gone in to see what was taking him so long.
I think at some point Don and Betty will end up divorced. I want them divorced by SERIES end, which i hope is not for a long time. I dont' see them being that "perfect" couple together at home, maybe as a facad like now.. I don't think she is the love of his life. She fits the role he lives.
I believe when Roger told Annabelle she wasnt the one, he wasnt thinking of his new wife but of Joan. Hopefully they will end up together.
I think that Greg will soon end up or missing in Vietnam. The closing scene will be Joan reading a telegram of his ...end scene. OR either a shot of two Army personnel walking up to her door , she opens the door and just the look on her face ends the scene. End of story line for Greg. Joanie goes back to SC and finds love once again with Roger. I think they both love each other.

SEASON 4 WISH LIST

Everybody would appreciate if for Peggy to be dropped from the show between seasons. No cause to explain her absence of kill off the character. Just let her be gone bye-bye. The Peggy character was an attempt which has failed. Don, upwardly mobile spawn of a trailertrash redneck and a gas-station hooker, wishes to mock Sterling Cooper by infiltrating a fellow low-class, uneducated pretender. He chooses Peggy because she personifies the downscale prole -- bluecollar urban high school, un-stylisn clothes and shoes, home-perm hair, drugstore makeup, slightly lumpen physique. The casting and wardrobe may have worked all too well. Peggy remains ineffably outerborough, eternally secretarial. She belongs in that huge windowless clerical corral so superbly presented by Mike Nichols in "Working Girl." Or waiting on the counter at Guido's All-Night Diner. But never in a window office in Midtown. Just go back across that Brooklyn Bridge, Peggy. The harder you try, the more incongruous you are.

Joan Rules!

Its about time she laid the smack down on that whiney loser she married.

The Kennedy Assassination

November 22, 1963 was a very dark day yet I'm finding myself looking more and more forward to how it will be handled by MW. The Kennedy Assasination has been a subtly growing tensile thread through the narrative of the entire season but it seems there is no good way to approach it. I think that it will have to be as Fred2 said a sort of backdrop to the story but with the characters so heavily involved in their own lives I can't see it being more than that, and yes it has to happen in the first 5 minutes or the last 5. And if in the first five we will catch the action after the fact mid crisis. Perhaps season four opening with the Beatles Feb 9, 1964. But I think that would be a bit too "Wonder Years" .

Please slow down: a humble request to the show's creators

Hello. First off, I would like to say that Mad Men is my favorite show on television; in fact, it is the only television show that I watch regularly. I came in about mid-way through last season and since then I have not missed an episode. You have achieved remarkable success on two fronts: you have achieved a very high standard of period detail and you have created excellent dramatic interaction amongst the characters. Most importantly, each element succeeds without relying on the other for secondary effect.

So many present day productions set in the 1950s or 1960s have struggled to create intelligent drama and nearly all of them have failed because they were either inattentive to detail or they allowed the period to dictate the drama rather than let the characters create it.

What concerns me is the speed at which the show is approaching the latter half of the 1960s, a period in time when this country almost shook itself apart due to its many divisions. I was too young to remember it clearly. Perhaps that is for the best, because by many accounts it was a very unpleasant time for America. And that story has been told and retold against the backdrop of a number of dramatic pretenses, mostly because it makes for easy drama. By now though, it is also very tired. We all know the story. It's been done.

Stylistically, the period detail of the late 1960s is still very prevalent and familiar in today's culture. That's what makes your emphasis on the details of the early 1960s so striking. It's almost totally unfamiliar. Having the characters interact in such unfamiliar territory allows us to relate to them without the familiar baggage of the late 1960s weighing the whole thing down and dictating the drama. So far, with only a few exceptions, you have avoided this trap. However, history appears poised to challenge you.

The show is currently moving into November 1963, and the events of that month and year are well known to many people. Some of them believe that it was those events that triggered much of the history that followed. With regard to the show's characters, I can't help but wonder what is going to happen to them as they get entangled in that history. Maybe it is better that their fates are left to our imagination.

I ask that you please consider slowing the show's time clock down and allow us to savor the unfamiliar and relish in the genuine drama a little longer.

Thanks.

Famous Characters in literature that resemble Don Draper...

I read a comment on one of these a while ago comparing Don to a famous character in American fiction. My mind slips me on the name and the author but it is a very well known story and the comparison to Don is spot on.

This character's parents died and he abandoned his past and reinvented himself as a success. Basically an embodiment of the most extreme example of the American dream. Does ANYONE know who I'm talking about if I could figure this out it would give my mind a huge rest, thanks.

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Confessions of Mad Men

Don's confession to Betty is getting all the attention--with good reason. But isn't it interesting to note the contrast between that confession and the one Greg made to Joan?

Don's confession was big, dramatic, and forced by Betty. Greg, on the other hand, casually volunteered the information to Joan that his father had a nervous breakdown. He then flippantly said something like, "I can't believe I never told you that before."

The wives' reactions differed, too. Betty couldn't help but to comfort Don about his brother. The next day, Betty and Don acted much more considerately toward each other, almost as one would with an acquaintance.

Greg and Joan, on the other hand, were operating on different planes. Greg whined, and Joan snapped and hit him over the head with a vase.

And let's not forget that a few episodes back, Pete "confessed" his most recent infidelity to Trudy without saying a word, and this seemed to bring them closer.

What do you think all of these confessions mean for the characters' relationships?

Mad Men Dinner

We are going to have a Mad Men dinner for the season finale. The drink will be a Scotch Old Fashioned. The salad will be an Iceberg Wedge with bleu cheese. The entree will be Beef Stroganoff. Any other ideas from this Mad crowd?

How many loose threads will fit in two episodes?

For the love of Paul's beard, I need to know what happened to Sal.

Any other plot lines eating away at people? What gets closure and what doesn't?

...and how long did she sit in the car??????

How long did she wait in teh car before realizing that Don wasn't available for comment????

The Hobo and the Gypsy

I noted a lot of questioning about who's the hobo and who is the gypsy (outside of the costumed kids); some suggested Suzanne and her brother--but her absent brother (1) wasn't in the episode and (2) isn't a hobo. A hobo wants to be on the move. Suzanne's brother is forced to be on the move because of his epilepsy. Which is why I'd vote the Hobo and Gypsy as being Don and Suzanne. Suzanne is attractive to Don because she is a free spirit like he is, but she's much more "exotic" and spiritual, more the gypsy. Of course, there's also a possibility that the title suggests Betty confrontation of Don about his first "wife" Anna--a tarot card reader.

The hobo, however, is most certainly Don, as he has been labeled so, metaphorically speaking, from the first time we see him learning lessons about the hobo code from an actual hobo. But the show went even farther this particular episode to make sure we got the connection.

After his confession to Betty, he is washing up and he looks at himself in the mirror. We feel this is the first time he's looking at himself and seeing the real him not the Don Draper mask he tries to wear 24/7. The man he sees in the mirror has a very heavy 5 O'Clock shadow. Just like we see in old Hollywood movie stereotypes of Hobos. Just the way bobby has his face done up for Halloween.

The gypsy may be a question, but the Hobo is Don.

Don's Night of Reckoning

a review of 3.11, the episode that changes everything

Drapers' Address in Ossining?

I was driving through Ossining the other day and suddenly wondered if the address that was printed on Don's contract in "Seven Twenty-three" was an actual address. Could someone possibly freeze frame the scene in which he's signing to see what the address is? Unfortunately I deleted that episode already. Thanks so much!!

Don Draper Alias

what season and episode did Pete Campbell discover Don uses an alias?

St Margaret, Patron Saint of Hoboes

I just came across something about St Margaret of Cortona and it states she is the patron saint of:

The falsely accused; hoboes; homeless; insane; orphaned; mentally ill; midwives; penitents; single mothers; reformed prostitutes; third children; tramps.

I just thought it was interesting as it sorta ties in to various characters of Mad Men...and of course there is our Margaret "Peggy" Olsen. Peggy is from a Catholic family, perhaps she was named after St Margaret of Cortona!

He joins the ARMY? Yeah, right.

Gay.

Mad Men takes another journey into the absurd after Joanie's little boy, "my son, the doctor," (this IS after all, how the character is written and played) first wants to be a surgeon, then a shrink, and now, on to a different playtime game: let's play SOLDIERS!! Yay! I can be a surgeon AND a soldier at the same time! Yippee!!

In their never-ceasing quest to portray straight white males as corrupt or overgrown juveniles, we are supposed to believe this bizarre turn of events. "Sure, I may have to go to Nam, but that will be over soon..." or such childish words to that effect. Thus, the good people of the creative team want us to believe that this "kid," who managed to graduate med school, convince the all-knowing, all-seeing, wisest of wise, Queen Joan, that he was "the one," is now going to join the Army out of a desperate and peurile desire to be play with his favorite toys, uh, that is, become a surgeon.

On another topic, Don becomes more and more corrupt, while Cooper, perhaps the MOST corrupted soul on the planet, shows some "integrity," by refusing the advances of an old flame? Hah? Betts, find Don's "stuff,"??? Is this, "Mad Men," or "Days of Our Lives"??? Gee, you think Luke and Laura will get back together again?!??

November 22, 1963 - How will they handle it? Thougts

The dreadful and tragic day still fresh and unhealed in our collective national heart is swiftly approaching our As our unsuspecting Mad Men characters go about their daily (and nightly) business. How deftly will Weiner handle this topic considering most scenarios are predictable and cliché. It obviously has been reserved for the final episode of season 3 or has it? Roger's daugther's wedding is scheduled for 11-23-63 which leads me to believe a juxtaposition of a wedding and a funeral ( but not in the Michael Corleone sense). I'm wondering if it will be addressed in episode 1 of season 4 instead.

Betty

So Betty wasn't just sitting with that box and drinking wine. She actually went out and had another set of keys made. I am so proud of her! In the scene where Betty confronted Don, she seemed older to me, more like a grown woman and less like a spoiled daddy's girl. She was truly a woman wondering just who this man is she has suddenly found herself married to. Great job by January Jones.

Call me sentimental

but I have never eaten horsemeat and do not expect to in this lifetime. Of course, I have never been starving either , and as they say, desperate times call for desperate measures. I pray I will never be that desperate. What about my fellow Maddicts. Have any of you eaten horsemeat?

It's insensitive to stereotype hobos and gypsys.

This is beyond the pale, I mean really. Has our society become so callous that we accept depictions of the homeless as objects of ridicule?

note to fellow Maddicts

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It's civilized. On-topic. Active moderators who care. It's very refreshing. Hope to see you there.

Stupefyin' Joan!

Wow, I could watch that rat doctor get conked on the head all night! How satisfying was that? Roger still loves her, and I think he is just finding that out. It wasn't Mona or Jane he was thinking about when he told Annabelle she wasn't "the one" for him.

Who Cares about Annabelle Whatshername?

I hate all this needless introduction of new characters when we've been waiting so long for the threads of other stories to be continued. Comments?

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Season 3 Episode 10 - Open Thread

Talk about Season 3, Episode 10, "The Color Blue."

music, season 2 hall of the mountain king

there is a country song at the end of the Hall of the Mountain King episode. I have the CD sound track and the song is not on it. I would like to know who the artist is, what the song is, etc. Anybody know?