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Talk: Mad Men: July 5, 2009 - July 11, 2009

Falling Man and Mad Men

This is another topic that has been bugging me. It's dark, which is why I didn't bring it up sooner, but can't seem to let it go.....

What sayeth ye?

http://mediacommons.futureofthebook.org/imr/2009/04/14/falling-man-and-mad-men-154

Oh, the dramz.....the dramz.....

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/lions-gate-to-put-mark-rachesky-on-board-what-does-this-mean-for-icahn/

You think YOU have problems.

Yeah, he does.

janeeyre posted a great thread about Donald Draper. She queried "does he get away with too much?"

I hit a bitter streak just now, and the words of "Jimmy Barrett" just won't go away.....

"You're garbage, and you know it."

I'll just wallow in that, while you tawk amongst y'selves.

The New York Times Link

Hi all,
For some reason, the link to the Times' Mad Men marketing story did not post. Here it is:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/business/media/10adco.html

From the NYT: Marketers are Going "Mad"

Hi Maddicts,
Yesterday's New York Times featured a story: on the promotion blitz for Season Three. Companies such as Banana Republic, Clorox and the magazines Vanity Fair and Variety are partnering on some fun-sounding campaigns. My August Vanity Fair contains an insert featuring the cast of MM. Store visitors can receive a MM Style Guide (like we don't know it already!) and can enter a drawing to be a walk-on. Check it out!

While we're on the subject, what other marketers would you recommend to join the MM promotion bandwagon, and why? Let's steer clear of the obvious (alcohol, cigarettes, firearms, apparel, cosmetics, etc.) and get creative. How about a campaign for Trojans, with the slogan "One Pete is enough."

Next?

The house again.....

Today, kathiemarie posted something way back there about the house, and I realized it's been bugging me, and I'd like to bring it up just one more time before the new season.

Betty's Confession

I just rewatched Episode 13 S2 last night and realized that Betty really wanted to throw her infidelity in Don's face when she turned from the sink and told him she needed to talk to him. He turns off the radio, gives her, his full attention, they sit at the kitchen table, and Betty says there's something she needs to tell him. She chickened out (no pun intended) and reverted back to being Don's wife right then and there. She relenquished control of the marriage which she had been enjoying for several weeks with that lump in her throat and a resigned, "I'm pregnant." Betty fans do not despair, however, she's had a taste of power, and she likes it. Betty may become Don in Weiner's world of change!

Who the heck is Mitch?

I was watching some S1 episodes last night and all the guys were talking about Mitch's wife and how good looking she is. Then I remembered a number of times that Mitch was mentioned in other episodes, most notably when Harry gets his position as head of television he mentions something about Mitch not being happy. Does anyone know who the heck Mitch is??? There was a guy in episode 1 who never seemed to return... I wonder if that was Mitch. Thoughts???

Old School

Ok gang I'm hoping this works. I tried to post up 3 links and sometimes they show and sometimes they don't. So Whatever.

Anyway, the point is this: I'm a huge Joan Crawford fan, mmm love the Joan, and I stumbled across a youtube deal I think you folks would like. Be a fan or a non-fan of the Joan is ok, I'm talking about an obscure tv thing. I'm trying to post the link, it's Lucielle Ball and Joan Crawford together. I think that's cool.

If ofcourse it all shows up and the links work..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGa4M0zmOLI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAjLqm5QWIk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsntZtKixtM&feature=related

only 40 days

Only 40 more days until the new season begins!!!

Don Draper and Helen Bishop Having an Affair?

Dry Manhatten placed a link on a Mad Men story written by Linsey King. Here is what she says:
When Helen first meets Don at the Draper house party, the two of them never acknowledge each other overtly, even when standing side by side. He's outside, standing by the playhouse, in an exceptionally dour mood. Helen sees him, comes out and addresses him without looking at him: "Interesting crowd in there," she smirks. Don shrugs, without looking over. They both stand a few feet apart looking straight ahead. Betty sees them outside side-by-side and asks Don to go pick up the cake. Don says nothing, but walks right in front of Helen without any acknowledgment, and with a look so blank you could swear he's a pod person.
It caught my eye on first viewing and on my second viewing I Tivo'd back and forth a few times to get a better look. Something is definitely going on. It was a calculated avoidance that was written into the script. OK, I thought, it's the typical avoidance ploy when people are attracted and later hook up.
Cut to the second time Helen interacts (or rather does not interact) with Don. Helen is sitting in the Draper living room talking with Betty. We hear the front door latch. Cut to Helen, sitting up straighter and turning to the door expectantly, with a perky smile lighting her face. Enter Don, who once again does not acknowledge Helen in even the most cursory manner. Then adopting yet again that over-the-top blank expression, walks silently up the stairs.
Hey, if they avoid each other any more, she'll be having his baby!
But wait: I am leaving out a third quasi-encounter: At the house party, Don has the movie camera and almost gleefully captures Helen as Carlton is putting the moves on her. When she sees Don filming, she waves and laughs broadly at him, as if they are the very best of friends. Huh?
Which leads me back to why did Helen move to Ossining? Could it be that Don (Dick) and Helen already know each other? We shall see what we shall see. Lindsey King

Could Glenn Bishop be Don Draper Jr.? Great find Dry!

Hot Rods!

So! Anyone think Don will take up building hot rods in S3? His interest in what the guys in CA were doing was more than just nostalgia over having sold them in the past. So could our white collar guy start having some blue collar fun? Would that cause tensions among the socialites in his future? You know - behaving "improperly" among the golf set... showing up at the country club with grease under his fingernails... that just got me thinking... Don it seems has made a decision to embrace his reality, instead of trying to invent a new one (like he would with each woman "Let's get married" to the beatnik, running off with Rachael, etc). Now what if he's pushed too hard into this country club set? I think that could seriously push him over the edge and back to his escapist ways. But maybe something like tinkering with hot rods would be his escapism.

Could anyone picture Pete, Roger or Burt actually doing such dirty manual labor? I wonder how that would go over with Betty who likes all the towels to be just so and probably likes moving towards the country club set, although I suspect she's not as shallow as some of them, and has her own rogue ways (pigeon, anyone?) as well. Any thoughts on all this? Also, if he got into building hot roads, any speculation on the style of his work or what sorts of mods he'd do?