Is Mr Kenneth still alive?

Vidal Sasson started the geometric cut in 1963. Was just at the salon for a haircut, Yes, he and the salons are still around.

I fondly remember the Bee-Hive. I think around '63 things began to change, David Bailey had dispensed with Jean Shrimpton's and shot her looking like she had just got out of bed. Jackie Kennedy can be seen with the 'new' style around this time as can Fonda and Julie Christie. I suppose this evolved into the famous, or infamous (depending upon you point of view) long, mid 60s hippyish look until some began to get it all cropped off around '66,'67 ala Twiggy and Mia Farrow...Memories.

Have you noticed that the hair-do's of the 60's are very popular today. Just look at Amy Winehouse, Estelle, Adelle, Drew Barrymore and many others.
If you saw the Grammy's last year and this year it seemed to be a "Mad Men"buffet. You're so right 485Madison, Vidal Sasson hasn't been forgotten at all, most of these modern do's are very similar to that trend. I like it.

I used toget up an hour early to sneak out of the house, get to school and tease and spray my hair way up to THERE. Our heads looked too big for our bodies, we were like mushroom shapes. Then after school, had to dismantle it all before going home. Oh, and also unroll the skirt waist, which I had hiked up and rolled to be above my knees.

Seems, like parents were so strict then! Today they obviously don't care what the kids wear.

"Oh, and also unroll the skirt waist, which I had hiked up and rolled to be above my knees."

LOL thanks for the memories - I can still see Joanie Myers rolling up her brown wool uniform skirt to a scandalous 3-4" above the knee when the nuns weren't looking. We had cotton shirtwaists for the spring (in pastel pink, yellow, blue, and green.)

As for hair, I remember my sister's flip with bangs - anybody use orange juice cans as oversized rollers? And in later years when "straight" was in, ironing their hair flat?

My grandmother rolled our hair in rags, not that it took with me; I have terminally straight and very fine hair, which suited the "folkie" look. I looked like the little Dutch boy in bangs so I seldom had them but one time when my mom sent us to a nearby hairdresser's for a trim, we all came home with 'pixie cuts' - which were AWFUL, at least on a peanut-head like me. Very traumatic. I refused to see a hairdresser again until my junior prom (and that was less than stellar, too.)

Loved the look of the Breck girls; they just didn't look like me.

Don't think teen-age....

Women over 25 had their hair DONE. Thinking back, I remember ALL my teachers had French Twists, the Dorothy Kilgallen Look or the ever popular Poodle.

The 60 year old woman at my cleaners had a BIG concrete updo until a few years ago. Her hairdresser had died and no one else could, or would, do it as before.

I hope Don keeps his hair as it is presently. Lots of men continued their "style" from 1955 to the present.

Auburn Annie-
Are you my sister Kathy? You sure dressed like her for school! Don't forget the monogrammed crew sweater and knee socks in complimentary colors....maybe a circle pin and bandana!

I bet you had one of those nifty nylon "snap" car coats that were all the rage in primary colors as well!

Just once before I die I would love to see a 16yr old dressed like that again.

Oh...almost forgot 'The Bubble Cut"...even Barbie had one of those.

Oh Gawd, the memories!

Yes, the OJ cans, Auburn Annie! I, like you, attempted them, but they did not work on me...had to use the brush rollers (ouch!) and Dippity Do!

Remember taking out your curlers and they stayed in the roller's shape from so much styling gel? You had to really work with that brush to get it all teased up and sprayed...arms ached when done!

Then, you had to put that little bow right in the middle of the front...like a poodle just coming from the groomers! So funny to think back on it now!

I remember some of the boys in high school complained to the teachers that they could not see over some of the girls' hair! (a la the original movie, "Hairspray"!) I couldn't have mine as high as I wanted, but I had it up there a good ways!

Our vice principal would go around in the hallways with a yardstick and check the girls' hemlines and send them home to change if they hit more than 3 inches above their knees!

As to the women getting styled once a week...my mom did that and then used toilet paper wrapped around her head at night between her weekly appts.

I started "fixing" (yes, we used that term!) her hair as well as my own when she decided she liked my hairstyle (concrete....just like Gavin said! ha!) better than what the "beauticians" did for her.

We went through those jars of Dippity Do like crazy...

My Mom used to give us permanents. Ahhh. I remember once when my oldest sister threw a fit and wouldn't let my Mom do it to her. Also she would set our hair on pink sponge rollers. My hair took those very well. Although they were are to sleep on. Mainly we just had it done for special events like Easter and church. Hey maybe I'll give those pink rollers another try. With the humidity in Florida maybe it would help..........

Spoolies, anyone? Yeah, home permanents were the worst. "Which twin has the Toni?" My mother used to try those on my little sister and me, usually with disastrous results. Then we went to pin curls with bobby pins and then on to the brush rollers in high school. Senior year I said to heck with it and just wore my hair long and straight. I never ironed it, though.

I can well remember how wonderful we thought the electric hot rollers were when they came out. Then we got the curling irons and never looked back.

I'm guessing the thought was to give Joan a "soft" beehive.

Were they to have given her the echt model--- the kind which spawned urban legends about baby spiders hatching--- it might have made Joan come off looking like a Tallahatchee short order waitress.

Re: Kitty's "Ann Landers" 'do. Bobbie's 'do as well. I think there were some of those shaped, lacquered 'do's that did not seem matronly back in the 60's. It would only be by the mid-1970's that they started looking matronly?

If you watch THE EXORCIST (1973), maybe you'll be surprised, as I was, to see Ellen Burstyn entertaining at her swanky penthouse party... sporting a curled/shaped/lacquered 'do that looked surprisingly old-ladyish by today's standards... Yet I'm sure we're to construe that it was very hip for its day and social milieu.

Flowerpower, mentioning the hairspray and teasing at school takes me back to the original John Walters film "Hairspray" where the term "hair hopper" is used as is "hair detention"

None of that was going on, as far as I knew, in the mid 1940's when I was in prep school. That was all boys, yet I assume the girls we dated on weekends might well have rolled their skirts. My late wife Jean was not all that much younger than me but she also was of normal age in high school in Southern California graduating in 1953. She says her younger sisters all did go in for teased hair and shortened skirts in the late 1950. Jean started teaching high school English in 1958. She would tell me about hair spray and clippies issues circa 1962-4 before she gave up classroom teaching.

Something I must have missed probably was long out of fashion by 1964. I am talking about the DA cuts. Doris Day wore those in several pictures, including Pajama Game. Did garment factory workers really wear stiletto heels and crinoline supported skirts while running commercial sewing machines?

Certainly it seems to me the MM art, costume, hair and makeup departments have done their research very well!

No Gavin, I'm not Kathy, honest. I did have a pink vinyl snap-up raincoat that was very mod at the time (for about 10 minutes around 1965) but never succumbed to the lure of white go-go boots.

Ah, Ellen Burstyn. My favorite movie with her is "Same Time Next Year" which is great for the clothing reflecting changing times. Loved the black dress with the sweetheart neckline. Watch how her hair changes (style AND color) over the years.

And Toni home perms - eeuuuwww, stinky!

Lets just hope those in charge realise that change takes years. Example: The Gabors , Ann Miller, Ginger Rogers, Gloria Steinem or the lady down the street. They adopt a persona and it becomes an armor.

Kitty and Betty will hold on to their "look" forever.

*SPOILER*
Joan Holloway, who passed away in 1989, held on to her style and hairdo right up until the end.

Hey- what was the name of that pink zig-zag hair tape for bangs or fringes?

Doris Day was never sexier, Dr. Adams, than when she wore thyat D.A. in PAJAMA GAME... and her toreador pants that showed off her dancer's derriere.

And how many of you recall the home hair dryers of the early-60's... The kind which came in a portable beige luggage valise, and sported a long coiled plastic hose... and the plastic hood covered with florettes?

Turned on, it sounded like a city-streetsweeper truck, and we had to scream at Mom to please stop, 'cause it was causing interference on the TV set.

Lord, how I remember sitting under that "bonnet" hair dryer doing my Shorthand homework!

Loud, my God, don't know how I kept my hearing....

Huh????

Did someone ask me something???

Gavin, I remember it being called just "hair set tape"...but it was pink and zig-zaggy and Scotch made it...

Just watched Doris Day in a clip from Please Don't Eat The Daisies on YouTube....she's trying to get dressed with her 3 ultra hyper boys underfoot....so hilarious...this is right after she reprimands them for dropping wet paper bags on passers by under their NYC apt. window!

I love her in that (or any) movie!

Doris Day is a perfect example of what I am trying to convey:

She morphed into a sophistocated sleek hottie in 1959's "Pillow Talk". Jean Louis dresses and the blonde bouffant. Wonderful. Her scenes at the Copa are visual candy.

She carried that "look" for the rest of her life.

I really am sorry to see time speeding up on the show:

Jayne Mansfield, 1958 is a dream-by 1966 she was a nightmare....3 or 4 wigs piled on her head-topped off with a black velvet bow...yikes!
Even good old Donna Reed, in '66 was sporting false eyelashes and conveyed a look of desparation.

Thanks everyone for sharing all the memories! Lilt and Toni home permanents, brush curlers (with pink plastic stick pins!) and spending ages under a hair dryer - it took 2 hours to get ready for a date. Remember those hairbows attached to "Clippies?" At my high school, the principal (male) would demand that girls kneel on the floor, and if the skirt didn't brush the floor, the girl(s) were sent home.

So right, Gavin about DD (Doris Day -- same monogram as our Don!)

She was also a wonderful dramatic actress...examples: Love Me Or Leave Me with James Cagney, Midnight Lace with Rex Harrison, I know there are others....just loved her, period...always made me mad I had blonde hair (before my red "conversion") but why oh why "dishwater" (darkest) blonde??? Why couldn't God have given me the gorgeous sunlit locks of Doris???? (Even though hers probably came from a bottle as well....

oh well...I just decided to remedy that problem myself....red rocks....so far, anyway....

And Hidey, there, Sixties Survivor! Drop in more often!

We ironed our hair in an attempt to be very Carnaby Street.(btw, finally saw it in the late 70's...so disappointing...looked like a cheesy boardwalk type scene by that point!) We complimented this lovely look with black eye-liner, and Yardley of London eyeshadow!

Yes, I remember the pain of the orange juice cans, the ridges of sponge rollers and the dust of MiniPoo!

You Maddict guys and gals:

What cologne(s)/perfume(s) did you wear in the 60's?

ras

I wore little of cologne (they give me headache) but my mom had Evening in Paris in the deep blue bottle, and she loved Muguet De Bois. Yardley introduced a lot of fragrances (Tweed, for one). Jean Nate? Arpege? For men Brut and Aramis? I had Emeraude at one point, and White Shoulders, both of which pre-date the 60s, I think. In the early 70s I had those solid perfumes in a case from Coty (Sweet Earth Solid Fragrances) that came in four style: floral, grasses, woods, and rare flowers.) You can still buy them, and other old fragrances, through the Vermont Country Store

Ambush, L'Air du Temp and Shalimar were my faves. But I really like English Leather too, even though it was for men!

Thanks SCFan - I only get to drop in on my lunch time, but it's really fun whenever I can take the chance. I never was much for fragrences, but now and then I wore a little Chanel No. 5. My uncle wore British Sterling cologne, and I remember really liking that at age 16.

Hey, ras, good question.

No offense, but some of the Maddicts who've been on the forum (since before dirt existed) had a little discussion on that very thing back in Sept. '08.

"Perfumes of the 60's" I forgot who started that thread.....but I enjoyed reading over it again, too.

Hope you enjoy it...I think it got 92 posts!

http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/talk/2008/09/perfumes-from-t-1.php

Uh...meant some of "us" Maddicts....I'm probably one of the Methuselahs of the whole bunch....maybe...been here since Spring '08, or somewhere in that general time frame, I do believe.

Anyway, it's a cool thread and there's even another one more recent that was about "Je Reviens" perfume, I think....

Have you read the old thread "Candy, Candy, Candy"???? --- That's a winner, too! We all posted about our favorite '50's & '60's junk! Yum...memories!

oh, Gavin? just re-read your comment on Connie Francis' "tidal wave of hair that swung out 8 inches to one side of the head".... my eyes are still watering!..not to mention what you posted about poor old Ann Landers who went to her grave with that helmet hair of hers! What were we thinking??

I know we all thought we looked great...(trying to look like Jackie K., yes we were!!)

Really funny to think back on, though...remember the skit on SNL about Debbie Reynolds and Ann Miller (both with wigs on with the side "wing"? So funny..

Sweet Honesty by Avon was a favorite of mine.

The Farrah dooo will always be a favorite of mine. I will always wear a variation of it till the end. It works for me.

Fragrances? I remember...
Chanel #5 - classic minimalist
Shalimar - pink lace
White Shoulders - blue bottle
English Leather (girls wore English Leather).

Loved the Sweet Honesty, too, Chelsea...does Avon still make that? Would love to get some!

I recall all the fragrances you all have mentioned so far...wore most of them, too, like you all have said...they were "the way to smell" back then, and the mixture of them wafting through the high school hallways was pretty heady!

Still love and wear Chanel No. 5 to this day as well as L'Air du Temps by Nina Ricci -- and old standby, Fidji by Guy Laroche....smells soooo fresh and clean.

Thanks for the heads-up, SCFAn.

It's true I'm late to the overall MM party.

I was just a wee bairn at the time- but I remember my older brother smelling of Canoe...My mother loved Desert Flower and Tweed, while Dad was an Old Spice guy. They were all pretty cheap to buy gifts for....and you could get it all at the drug store.

SCfan...c'mon...Midnight Lace was Doris was on a crying jag for 90 minutes!

Google some Connie Francis images...she looked GOOD...tidal wave or not!

My sister had a toy set of "Maguire Sisters" wigs. Tinted opaque hollowed-out plastic in the Beehive/Bouffant and Bubble styles...A blonde, a brunette and an auburn. They went on your head like a crash helmet. God! I wish we still had them!

Oh dear God - Old Spice, yes! My poor father could stock a drug store with the Old Spice he got for every occasion, along with white cotton handkerchiefs and socks. There were 9 of us, so you can imagine how much of the stuff he had. I have no doubt if the church was bundling up care packages for overseas, my dad probably slipped in a case of the stuff. But when I smell it (the original is still around) I think of Dad - that and cherry pipe tobacco.

Was that "Wildcat" pipe tobacco, AA? That smelled so great!

Gavin...you mean you didn't like Doris in her panic mode?

heee

Anyone's Dad ever wear Aqua Velva? I still think it smells great...memories of "Daddy"-- in his Don Draper hat, suit & tie, and briefcase, smelling of Aqua Velva or Old Spice...... so neat...

Hey Gavin,
I had those wigs too. What fun I wish I had them still too. There was one Cleopatra on in my bunch... probably to channel Liz Taylor in her famous movie. Oh and my Dad smokied those Muriel Air tips with the plastic tip. And Auburn Annie Old spice was the only fragrance my Dad would wear. I have a bottle of it just to remember him by.

Hey SCfan I'm sure Avon still makes that fragrance of Sweet Honesty. I too love Channel #5. I get more compliments on it when I wear it. I even cheated and bought a fake version at the Family Dollor Store that smells just as good... too fun these memories.

Yeah, Chelsea....I kept my Mom's bottle of Chanel #5...it's about 3/4 empty, but I can't bring myself to use it up. I just have my own bottle for actual use. I will have to check out that Chanel "copy" at the dollar store...some of those really do come mighty close to the originals!

I'm going to have to get me some Sweet Honesty...it smelled so fresh and light as I recall. My Mom always loved Avon's "Timeless" and "Unforgettable" fragrances....

Gavin,

Wonder if Shulton (maker of Desert Flower) is still around?

I always loved DF.... very light and just plain "good smelling".... bet, if I found some "vintage" on Ebay, it would not smell the same, time changes the fragrance's chemistry usually....even when sealed up. oh well....memories.....nice.

Duh...of course Shulton is still around...don't they make Old Spice, too??