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2008 will represent one of America's great transition years for many reasons: the election of Barack Obama with an all time turn out of previously disengaged voters; the collapse of the banking system; the Big Three possibly becoming the Big One (or even the Big None); despite recent drops in prices, serious change in consumer behavior about energy; withdrawal plans for the Iraq war; the realization that so many of our institutions are broken down and need to be fixed: government, health care, social security/retirement, banking/real estate, our infrastructure.
I believe 1964 will be the year where we get to see the Tsunami of change hit the shores of Sterling Cooper. While 1968 was the most eventful and important year of the 60's, the events of 1964 laid down the foundation of this decade. I have categorized some of the events of this year to provide a context for the expected Season 3 of Mad Men.
As someone new to the Men, I would love to see all the episodes of season 2. Does anyone know if AMC will be replaying them pior to season 3? Or am I doomed to wait for the Season 2 DVD set due in July?
Or is anyone aware of any other options? Thanks, George.
"Available now for pre-order and will ship in July 2009.
From Matthew Weiner, the Emmy® award-winning executive producer and writer of "The Sopranos," "MAD MEN" is the ground-breaking, daring series about the glamorous and ego-driven "Golden Age" of advertising, where everyone is selling something and nothing is ever what it seems"
Please somebody fill me in! I haven't kept up with the latest news on the "negotiations" twixt Weiner et. al, and AMC...nor do I know the financial strength of a "non-premium channel" like AMC, but before I implore AMC to "meet Mr Weimer"s demands" at any cost, I would first THANK AMC for being the entity that took a chance with MadMen--when from what I've read, many others (including Weimer"s then-employer HBO) turned him down!
Lo and behold she has a recurring role as a gossipy switchboard operator at Sterling Cooper
Oh and gotta love her '60s style eye makeup
I'm tryting to find information on a song that played during Season 1 Episode 8 'The Hobo Code' and it's not listed on this website. The track is playing during the beatnik scene in the middle of the episode in which Don is lying down with Midge and Roy, and Midge asks Don "Do you Like it?" to which he responds with the line about Dorothy and colours. The song is very mellow with what sounds like a Spanish guitar.
The official song listing says it is Miles Davis' Concierto de Aranjuez but that was the song playing immediately previous, and the only other two listed songs are certainly not jazz tracks. I listened through Miles Davis' entire 'Sketches of Spain' album, of which Concierto belongs, and did not hear it.
So does anyone know the name of the track the artist?
Today I went to the matinee performance of "Speed-The-Plow" on Broadway, starring Jeremy Piven, Raul Esparza, and Elisabeth Moss. It was terrific! Much better than I expected. After the performance, the actors ask for donations for Broadway Cares, an AIDS charity. It's a Broadway tradition that at this time of year the actors come forward after the show to personally raise money for this very worthy cause. Elisabeth was standing right at the door taking donations. As I dropped some money into the pot, I looked her right in the eye and said, "I just want to tell you how much I love Mad Men -- the best show on television. The greatest show EVER on television." She smiled, and said "Thank you." She was very sweet and much prettier in person than she appears on the show. She was also terrific in her part as the temporary secretary in this tale of Hollywood greed and ambition. Just thought I'd share my brush with greatness. Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
on TCM today 5:45 pm (eastern Canada time) there is a movie with Robert Morse here is a link http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=3032
How about instead of an ad here and there, have a whole episode of it? With the coolest guys, with the coolest girls, in nice surroundings, enjoying themselves? Just like your parents..
Yes, I know, it pays for good writers and actors..
I have been trying to find the second season of Mad Men. Times Warner was showing it but seems to have stopped and I can't even find it on demand.
Thanks,
Lin
Bored Maddicts? Longing to re-enter the world of Don Draper and his happy-go-lucky colleagues at Sterling-Cooper? Starting to develop tics and twitches as the weeks pass and still no Mad Men re-runs in sight? Well, I have an idea to help pass the time and have a little fun. We Maddicts love our fun, don't we?
Chock full o'Nuts founder's widow survives NY fire
MAMARONECK, N.Y.
The widow of the Chock full o'Nuts coffee company's founder and the voice behind its famous jingle was found cowering on an upstairs balcony of a burning home over the weekend and was carried down a ladder to safety, firefighters said.
Hello, my fellow Mad Men-obsessives!
I hope this isn't against any rules for the forum. I'm working on a paper for school about Mad Men, and I would like to get some data on audience reception. I wonder if as many of you as possible might take a few minutes to fill out my survey below.
I just wanted to remind eveyone who posts there to click the "recommend this" button at the left side directly under the original message at the top. It will help put the topic on the most popular list. Thanks!
As I read the posts, I can't help but wonder where all these Mad Men fans are from. I'm from Michigan. Care to let me know where you are from???
Hello Maddicts!..
This is the day! As promised, I am posting the discussion thread for our first Movie Mad-ness discussion. This month, "The Apartment," "BU-tterfield 8" and Barbara Stanwyck were the focus of our cinema fascination.
This is the place to tell us what you thought about them and explain why (in your opinion) Weiner inserted them in the series. Were they an important part of the conversation, or just inserted to mark time? Were you alive at that time? Were these movies, actors, or attitudes a part of your world? Were your attitudes toward them similar or different?
I look forward to a lively discussion and will post my comments right along with yours I am not the AMC moderator, just a fan like yourself.
It was a great time for network primetime television, the years 1960-64. Who here remembers the fun of watching kid-friendly series like The Rifleman (1958-63), The Beverly Hillbillies (1962-71), Gilligan's Island (1964-67), Bewitched (1964-72) and all the rest? What you think Sally Draper made of the sometimes strange world-views potrayed in these shows? And - impressionable as she was - how do you think she used them to interpret her life as a schoolgirl in boring old Ossining?
I love this series and it reflects what I recall about that era as accurately as anything possibly can from this distance. The prevalent male attitude toward women was why I entered what was at that time one of the few male-dominated professions in which women had a half-way decent shot at success...journalism.
Less important, but equally interesting to many, are the accoutrements of that era.
While the show's men's fashions seem spot on, the women's are more rooted in the mid-'50s than the last of that decade and on into 1960. I was wearing straight-line, empire or A-line silhouettes by1958 and much shorter skirts by 1960. Some of my dresses were still the fitted sheaths these secretaries wear, but the tight waisted, full-skirted shirt dresses were long gone in 1960. The last full-skirt, tight-waist dresses I had in that era were evening wear only.
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IMHO Jon should be #1.
Elisabeth Moss will be on "Best Week Ever with Paul F. Tompkins" tonight (I was off by a week last week).
Bestweekever.tv will have a preview up later toady.
11pm on VH1
Should Mad Men fans be given an opportunity to direct a minor character within the overall vision of the creators of the show. If you could pick a minor character who would it be and what would you have them do?
What's this I'm reading about online and in hard copy? There's a chance Matthew Weiner will be replaced on MadMen? Attention all MadMenaddicts: Log on and show your support for Mr. Weiner staying with the show - or it's no show at all! The man is brilliant and can never be replaced! Matthew Weiner is MadMen's HEART AND SOUL....!!!
Hi everyone
I used to watch Providence all the time, but I do not exactly remember Jon. Who did he play & what season was he in.
Thanks
I honestly wish it was on once a week ALL YEAR ROUND. Wouldn't that be fantastic?? :) This having to wait actually stirs up a little bit of heartache ;( ...
I'd really love to have and see some Mad Men bumper stickers, sweatshirts, posters, mugs...etc.... I already received the hat (thank you so much by the way), but let's get a little crazy!!! I know the fans will love the idea!!!!
It's Thanksgiving and SC is having "THE MEAL" what are you going to bring?
As the lull grows longer and I have more time on my hands, I thought I'd parody something for the Manhattan Maddicts to sing after their third or fourth round at P. J. Clarke's (or maybe not)! Stay tuned...
I can't find the post on the book club planned for the winter based on books featured on the Show (Mad Men, what other show is there?)
What are your favorites? I have to admit, I look for things every week that no longer "exist" (or rather, they exist but not in my world, lol!)
Things like frozen orange juice concentrate, hurling a beer can across the park rather than throwing it away, dry cleaner bags as toys, those little ashtrays that had cigarette holders built into them (I always thought they looked like ducks) and lamps with bases that looked like people - and TV lamps. Remember those?
I like to delve into Dick Whitman's morph into who he becomes as Don Draper.. How easy would it have been ? Was the switch in dogtags enough ? Were there any other bureaucratic hurdles? Was the dogtag # simply a SS#?
Dick only observed Lt Draper for a few days, we know that Anna was not mentioned.. Hard for a woman to understand that so little personal info was shared, course they were under fire and had that life 'n death thing to deal with....
What kind of conversation transpired that Dick felt that if his life could be different/better if he had Lt Draper's karma?
Don Draper is is making out his Christmas list. Here are a few items for the names on his list....
Pete - A copy of "How to Make Friends and Influence People"
Peggy - A copy of "How to Dress for Success"
Betty - Hunter's Safety Course
Roger - A pot to *iss in
Duck - A copy of a what a non-compete contract looks like
Joan - A cattle prod
Sal - A new closet
Ken - Barbie
What would you get these characters?
My son was watching "American Wedding", a typically dumb teen flick in the "American Pie" franchise tonight and I noticed January Jones had a pretty big part as the main female character's sister. It must have been filmed fairly recently as she looked and acted very similar to her Betty character. I checked online and most sites other than IMDB don't even credit her in the Bio.
Can anyone tell me if Mad Men is off the air? I have not been able to find it for the past three weeks..
Mad Men is a GREAT show! I just discovered it on iTunes so I got to watch two seasons worth of shows back to back.
The first thing I noticed was how much Mad Men looked like the old Bewitched series. Obviously they are on different ends of the spectrum - one being a dramatic series and the other a sitcom with a magic element but the style and look of both shows is the same, ie. clothing, products, cars, etc. because both shows take place in the same time period. (Of course Bewitched was actually filmed during the early sixties.)
But it's more than that.
I was thumbing through the numerous ads in the December Vanity Fair magazine when lo and behold there was Jon Hamm and Jennifer Westfeldt ! They look like the beautiful couplemodeling those clothes.Jon looked very un Don Draper,nevertheless still the sexy beast with his five o'clock shadow. Jennifer is one lucky lady.I wonder who else is going to pop up in ads during the off season?
Frank O'Hara's poem was partially recited in the opening episode and the title of the final episode of Season 2. We found out that Don had mailed it to Anna Draper. Let's discuss how the poem relates to Don, Anna, Rachel, Betty, and all the other characters of Sterling Cooper, and the final emergencies/crises they are all facing at season's end .
I was just watching TV and heard a commentator say that Barack Obama's dress style was considered to be a cross between JFK and Don Draper of Mad Men! Pretty soon, Mad Men will be a "household word"!
We are all awaiting eagerly the report from the Manhattan Maddicts Chapter on your meeting at P. J. Clarke's! Did you meet at a specific place in the bar? How did you know each other? How many showed up? How long did it last? Did you talk about any of us who could not be there? Tell, tell!
I have been going through maddiction withdrawal!! Too much work, and my computer died!! I will hopefully be able to rejoin the conversations soon! Miss everyone
How many Mad Men (& Mad-Ma'ams) does it take to fix a Vodka Martini (stirred, not shaken)?
TEN.
Peggy to pin the martini glass to the table by the stem
Roger to hold the olive(s) in place
The 6 others to put one finger on the glass and walk in succession around the cocktail table three times
Don to stand back and scrutinize intensively for his next presentation
And Joan to report the entire incident to Miss Blankenship
Mad Men is so rich with allusions to other works, it seemed worthy of heavy-duty analysis.
Please check it out, and let me know what you think!
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Vote for TV.com best show of 2008 --
http://www.tv.com/best-of-2008/genre/index.html
Hurry. Mad Men is lagging way behind Bones & House!
I notice there is another poster using the name of Betsy. This happened to another poster by the name of 60's child. How can we keep track of who is who if he user names are not unique?
Elisabeth will be on Best Week Ever with Paul F. Tompkins this Friday night at 11pm on VH1. Check it out.
It's on You Tube and The Watcher has it under "Mad Men (and Women) sing and swing..." You must see our artists on stage. It is amazing. Look for it as a Maddict, you will enjoy it!
Just a reminder, there will be a gathering of Maddicts on Saturday, December 6th at 7:30 PM at P.J. Clarke's on the East Side (55th St. and 3rd Ave.). Anyone who's interested, please contact me at ghklein@att.net. We're expecting about 10 -12 people so far -- it should be a lot of fun!!
So I love that Betty rides and I love the care that the costume people take to have her clothes look right. But as a rider myself, it drives me crazy that all the tack the horses wear is completely incorrect for the 1960's - it's all modern! Please, Mr. Weiner, find someone who knows period equipment. Does this drive any other horse people crazy?
Seems only fair that the third season should revolve around Pete and Joan as they were a bit downplayed, particularly Joan in S2.
Lets get the Military straight and add some Hot Rod
Drag Racing and make sure the music matches
the year.
As a culture historian and vintage clothing expert, I praise the show overall. But they screwed the Pooch with the storyline and effects regarding the Korean War feature. If you do any more Military writing, consult an expert on such matters. Are we headed
to the Vietnam War?
I watched last week's CSI and spotted Peyton List (our fair Jane Siegel) as an amateur S&M scene owner.
Other than Maggie Siff (Rachel) on FX's "Sons of Anarchy" and Rosemarie DeWitt (Midge), what other MM actors have you seen in productions?
Has any one caught Maggie Siff on "Sons of Anarchy"? On Demand has the past episodes. Her unique beauty and acting skills really shine in this very different role. Katie Segal is fantastic as the biker chick queen. Check it out!
I recently became hookes on the show. I have only seen season 1, does anyone know where i can find season 2?
Did anyone/everyone see Jon Hamm in this week's Personality Parade in Parade Magazine?
And I sure miss the show! I like to have some little thing to look forward to every day, and Sunday was Mad Men. So now what? My husband is trying to get me interested in Burn Notice, The Starter Wife and Californication. They are good shows, but just do not strike the same chord with me. So what are YOU doing or watching on Sunday nights now?
i watched the show from the beginning and in season one it never really bothered me that don cheated until his affair with Rachael. it was at that point that he wasn't just having an affair but a romance.
in the sopranos i never got angry with Tony's affairs because they never meant anything to him. Carmela was his one and only. with don i just dont know.
he loves betty. i know that. but i feel it is more hurtful that he has true romances with some of these other women.
what do you think?
I don't think many know about the great posts on the Mad Men BLOG. There should be loads of comments on the topics you find there. Also the FASHION FILE as so many wonder photos of the clothes on MM and you can leave comments there too. Come on Maddicts!
Hi all. I'm new to the Talk forum. I remember reading that someone asked for the text of Don's letter to Betty. Has it been posted yet? I have copied it from my DVR recording the best I could. Would anyone like me to write it out here?
Which guy or gal will be the first to volunteer?
Who will be the first guy at SC to push back against feminism and carry the label "male-chauvinist" ?
What are your predictions for season three assuming the time period after season two?
Let's come up with baby names and go alphabetically. I'll suggest boy and girl names beginning with A. The next person should suggest a name beginning with B, then C, etc. Just like our word association game!
Adam or Anna
Two of my favorites combined for the Tree House of Horror XIX when The Simpsons presented their take on the Emmy Award winning Mad Men intro.
check it out! http://twoifbysee.blogspot.com/2008/11/mad-men-intro-gets-simpsonized.html
I vote for the Figaro / Laurie B ticket
Hello, Maddicts!....
I've done my best to take our nominations and group them by popularity so we see as many films as possible over the next nine months. I've made every effort to group the most popular movies for viewing first, and (although I am not a movie buff) did my best to create interesting groupings. Watch at least one movie during the month from the group. Yes, of course you can watch all the movies listed, or all the movies by the actor or actress of the month. You are allowed to be as invested as the time you have to spare. It should be fun. Keep in mind the reason why the movie made our list, or what film or cinematic device was used in Mad Men, the series.
Great post on The Huffington Post - sounds like something we'd write on here. Check it out!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erica-heller/how-would-mad-men-vote-to_b_140641.html
I have just finished season one and LOVED it. I was so excited to see season two. I went to AMC on demand, but they did not have the first eight episodes. Does anyone know if they will be re-running them??????? I know they wont be on DVD for awhile...please HELP
I was interested to see that Don seemed to genuinely be personally invested in Freddie. I doubted his humaninty but still harbor the feeling that his underlying motivation was a response to one more stinging barb inflicted by Duck. I'll be excited to learn what kind of future interaction these two work through if Don decides to stay on at SC... With his cool 1/2 mil buyout in the bank and Betty's pregnancy, we will begin to see if Don's desire to heal his family life is a priority .... I got my doubts.. Don is a man of his time and '62 was not the era for personal introspection, especially if it could conflict w/ career goals.
I was dissapointed to see Betty's stumbles during the dinner party. No well brought up young wife would have used Sally and her ballet routine as an entertainment at a business occasion. This would be stictly a performance for adoring grandparents , close family or friends. The next faux pax was serving ramaki as a 2nd course of her dinner. This dish would have been a passed hor d' orve during the cocktail hour.
Talk about Episode 13, "Meditations in an Emergency".
Why? I get the whole mommy thing and how Betty has to be the "grown up" but get rid of this little freak before he hurts someone! Looks like a serial killler anyway...
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I wish I had used this blog sooner...would have loved to share.... I just came on and seems like a real neighborhood here...but for what it's worth..... I think Betty had the affair because she knew she was "safe" in not getting pregnant by him since she knew she was already pregnant by Don....Pete is getting what's coming to him....good for Peggy.....go Joan, go Joan and run away from that abusive med student into the arms of who you really want (Roger) because you know he'll take you back in a NY minute. Does Joan realize he's getting a divorce for that young chick? Joan will slice and dice her if she wants Roger. Love the complexity of Don but that whole episode in Calif. was a waste of film that could have been spent on the other interesting office characters. I CANNOT wait for the next season. How long do we have to wait?
I thought this would be a good place for those who need to ask any of the posters a question and don't want to bother the readers of the open thread or special categories!
Patrick Kehoe:
I don't know how you did it, but there is another old song that I have tried to locate and cannot. It is by a very young Tony Bennett entitled "Someone Turned The World Upside Down" ('54?) . If you will tell me your procedure, I'll be happy to search it myself. Many thanks! Sandy
Does anyone know if AMC is going to show the Season 2 episodes again soon? With so many people just catching on to the show now, it seems it would be foolish of AMC to make people wait until the marathon they will probably show just before Season 3. If people are really into it now, how can they be expected to wait 9 or 10 months before seeing Season 2 again?
@ 9:30 PM EST.
I found it scheduled in my program guide (DirecTV) today.
What about great westerns not on the list? I have long thought "Once Upon a Time in the West" was the best western of all time. Other notable absents include The Big Valley, Sam Peckinpah's works, or even the Hallelujah Trail.
Ok..I am a Betty sympathizer. I have backed my home girl since day 1. I have understood her character and identified with her more than any other on a TV show. It almost makes me feel silly. My issue this...
Don's confession to Betty is getting all the attention--with good reason. But isn't it interesting to note the contrast between that confession and the one Greg made to Joan? Don's confession was big, dramatic, and forced by Betty. Greg, on...
