Totally agree. I adore Betty. I love that she has matured from this shy, sad little girl to this strong, take charge woman through her anger. I can't wait to see her kick Don's ass when he's back. He needs to do some major groveling.

These female characters represent so much more. They are all metaphoric. I agree with you giveprops that you have really WATCH this show. The subtleties are incredible. Betty is changing and that girl isn't bleeding right now -- she's hemorrhaging.

Compare and contrast the three main female characters: Betty, Joan and Peggy. The past, the present and the future.

Schroobs, I love your last analogy. I never thought of it that way. Excellent point.

I love Betty. I hope she grows and grows.

I don't think it's a miscarriage. I think it's a regular pregnancy.

I think Betty is an unforgiving Bitch. Hates dads wife, hates everything.

Don, in the flashback, said he just loved her laugh and how she looked at him. Have you seen her laugh this season? Have you seen her give Don anything but grief? Nope.

Wender, so then...how would you handle telling your daughter why her daddy disappeared if you were in that situation? This isn't an attack. Would you not do anything to make your daughter more happy/comfortable before you try and explain it to her? I'm actually genuinely curious.

Don is such an angel, I suppose Betty should be grateful...NOT.

I love them both and hope this all works out.

I didn't like little girl Betty, but I don't like this one, either. So 60s that she bribed her daughter with a present, told her there are problems with Daddy, and then that everything will be all right. (I think it is a miscarriage, BTW)

I really dislike this character, and I don't think the writers are working very hard to make her likeable. It's true that she's growing as a person, but she is often manipulative, childish and spiteful. It's true that Don's constant infidelity has given her reason to be bitter toward him, but I don't get her hatefulness toward almost everyone else in her life, especially her children.
I'm guessing she just had a threatened miscarriage but in final episode we'll learn she is pregnant, since the preview has her saying to someone "I can't do this, what am I going to do?" If she isn't pregnant then why any reference at all to her menstrual cycle?

The reference to her menstrual cycle was to show the mental growth of her.....it shows she is now in her teenage years...and plz dont over think it the bleeding was a period...in the previews when she said she cant do it she is referring to taking care of the family alone w/o Don

I've always felt sorry for Betty. I could be way off base her but it seems to me like she is like a lot of women from that generation. They were fed a line of BS from day one. Say the right things, do the right things, hold out until marriage, marry Mr. Wonderful, buy the right house, have the appropriate number of children...blah blah blah...and all will be right with the world. She did everything right and can't figure out why it went so wrong. She did everything she was told a proper young woman in her station should do and...now her husband has flipped out, her kids are, well...kids doing kid things...she must feel like she's being punished for some crime she didn't commit.

Having been born in 1951, I grew up in the 50's and 60's. After reading the posts on the open thread for last night's episode about Betty being abusive towards Sally, I feel I have to comment on this. I agree with DamagedWomen. Things were very different back then and, in some ways, better.

I had a sister and 2 brothers. We all got our hair pulled, especially ponytails which really didn't hurt that much, by our mom on occasion. And we all were locked in our rooms (remember, no cell phones, TV's, computers) and needed permission just to go to the bathroom. My father was hit with a belt buckle when he was a kid to the point of bruises and welts (in the 20's and early 30's). However, my dad remembered how much that hurt and NEVER hit any of us with a belt. This was not considered abuse back then, just discipline. My neighbor used to lock his son in the back shed which was located very far from the house until 8PM at night. His son used to tell us how scary it was in there after dark. Of course, I don't agree with that, but it happened. I can't attest to whatever happened to my neighbor's son, but my own dad served in WWII, went to college and had a good job as an executive. Me and my siblings all went on to college, some finished some didn't, but all have good jobs and families. No one is in therapy.

My own son was quite a handful and I once chased him up the stairs and into his room with a wooden spoon trying to
smack his butt. He was laughing the whole time because he was so much faster than me and I didn't get very many smacks in. But I wonder, what would some of you have thought of Betty had she done that to Sally?

I consider myself an excellent parent, along with my husband, and both of my kids have college degrees and good jobs. My son is now a civil engineer. Neither has been in therapy. I'm not proud that I chased him with a wooden spoon. But we laugh about it to this day.

Betty is under a lot of stress right now. Her husband's luggage just showed up at her door, she is separated and doesn't know where her husband is or when he'll be back, she is all alone trying to pay the bills and raise her 2 kids and she either just got her period or is having a miscarriage. She also stood next to the door the entire time Sally was in the closet and gave no indication she was going to leave her there. Give her a break. No one is perfect. The scene in which she gave Sally the boots and told her about the separation was done in a very loving way. Some women would have blamed everything on the child's father. Betty has always tried to keep hers and Don's problems from the kids.

And I have to say that I have seen a lot of very misbehaved kids in stores and restaurants today. I often wonder if their parents ever discipline them. My sister is a teacher and she tells me the parents always blame the teacher now if their child gets in trouble. Back in my day, if the teacher sent a note home or called our parents, we would be in so much trouble. Parents always took the teacher's side back then. Now you even have kids bringing lawsuits against their parents for all kinds of abuse, some warranted, but many would have been considered just discipline back in the olden days. Kids are also getting into more trouble it seems now days with drugs, promiscuity, etc. I personally think a little discipline is a good thing.

Just had to add, I love the "Betty" character - she is really my favorite on the show. Don a close second. Betty reminds me of my mom and myself in a lot of ways. I think you really had to have lived through those days to appreciate where Betty is coming from. Betty is a great character and the writers have done a fantastic job with her. You can really see her evolving as the times began changing also. Kudos to the writers. Great job, Matt. From one of your "older" fans.

The preview last night showing Betty looking at the beautiful clothing....had her in a reflection standing sideways with her hand on her belly. I think she is expecting.

tangfl: I agree with you completely. On another post I also stated "give me a break" about Betty! She is a good mother, not the mean, vicious bitch that the Betty-haters have made her out to be. So she makes a few mistakes! Who doesn't? Look at what she's dealing with right now! And look at the crap she's put up with for so many years with Don! He better do some changing if he wants to get back with her -- she deserves much better. Her father calling Don out must have struck a nerve with him. Deep down, I don't think Don believes he deserves a girl like Betty. And until he "straightens up and flies right," he doesn't.

My parents didn't slap or spank, but there was plenty of voice-raising and arguing. And I agree (I live in New York City) about the BRATTY AND OBNOXIOUS KIDS I see everywhere! I don't have kids, but if I did, I would never allow them to act up the way I see these kids today do in public. I have also heard the stories that teachers tell about the complete lack of discipline in the "new parenting." I think it's creating an entire generation of spoiled brats.

And our parents thought WE were spoiled! Hah!

The evolution of Betty is simply stunning. One of the greatest aspects of the show. JMHO.

If she is pregnant, I hope this will bring Betty and Don closer together. I love them both, and I love them as a couple.

So I'm romantic! So sue me!

Gail Klein, I've read your posts before and I feel like we agree quite often. I disciplined my kids, they would never run wild in a store or restaurant. My daughter was pretty easy, but my son was a handful (Sally seems to be a handful). Betty is under way more stress than I was - I've had a good, faithful husband for over 30 years. Sure he worked night hours and I was alone with the kids a lot (and I worked most of the time, too, either part-time or during the day). I had to discipline my son especially because he could have gotten into alot of trouble or in with the wrong crowd if I didn't. I have no regrets. My husband and I are very close to our kids, both grown 24 and 26, happy and successful. The show is just entertainment but I do see a lot of similarities to my own childhood with my parents and my own parenting with my kids. That's probably why I love the show so much.

Tangfl and Gail: Agree with both of you. Well said! I'm sick of parents wanting to be their kids' friends and skipping out on the parenting part. Sure it's tough but that's the job we signed up for when we had kids, wanted or not. Some people I know think it's more important for their kids to like them, rather than respect them. And look at what we're turning out here: a generation of loud-mouth, disrespectful know-it-alls who don't know or care about the first thing about manners and etiquette.

Back to Betty: I love her tranformation from Season 1 to Season 2. I hope we see Betty and Anna become friends eventually.

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