Who will Betty take revenge with? Whoever she wants!!

Betty's such a passive/aggressive. I don't think she's arrived at the point of crossing the line into infidelity yet, even with such a handy wimp as Arthur available. Though I think Arthur is out of the picture after he saw Betty's kids - that cemented that she's an older woman with kids! Kind of a no-no those days (unlike Don, who never hesitates to cheat with anyone).

Maybe Betty will try temporarily joining the other team and have a fling with Francine!!!! That would show them dirty low-down cheatin' dogs (Don and Carlton)!!!!! I don't actually know what it would show them but it would. LOL

I've been itching for Betty to cheat, but I think we're a long ways from that. Don would probably slap her around considering his reaction to Betty's bikini. I hope she has an affair with the young guy from the stables.

Definitely, Betty will plan something.

Jimmy wasn't telling her anything she didn't already know. She rightly pegged Jimmy as crude for pointing it out. How humiliating to be complimented by the creep and then humiliated in the next sentence.

I don’t think she will directly confront Don. That would add to her humiliation.

It will be interesting to see just how she punishes Don.

My hope for Betty is that she will "find herself" and grow away from Don. She will continue to read, and grow.
Perhaps it might be that she gets involved with the Greenwich scene.
Don will be threatened that his home-life will be in chaos.

I'm not so sure that Betty will have an affair to get revenge. She loves being so proper and perfect and was disgusted by Jimmy's comments. She's also so passive-aggressive about most things (like going through the shrink to tell Don that she knew about his infidelity the first time). She's hurt and humiliated by Don's actions, but if she goes out and cheats too, she won't be able to hold his cheating over his head as well. I also agree with fuzzmuffin that Don might get violent if she flaunts having an affair in his face.

Betty have an affair? I doubt it. I think Arthur was scared off my her maternal "jewels." No way she'd do anything with Roger or Jimmy. Of course, she could drop by the service station... Sort of a Lady Chatterly's Lover situation.

However... Ever see "Belle du Jour?" She could get in touch with Juanita...

Ritt,
Yes, I saw "Belle du Jour" and I've commented before that I wondered about her past, since Don reacted so strongly about the a/c repairman.

I really feel Matt and writers are prepping us for who will Betty have for dinner. And, I feel the time is coming. She can't confront Don readily, he already physically abused her when she did about son, Knowing her, she can only go this route of going out on him and causing him grief that way. But, who knows. This show has you on your tippy toes.

i left this comment in another thread, but it fits so well into this thread as well.

i had a dream after this last episode. in my dream, betty was really wanting to get it on with don. so they get going and in true proper fashion, betty doesn't really get into it like some wild girls. he gets upset and wants to stop. she wants to know what went wrong, and he grabs her boobs and says ( in a mocking sort of way while shaking her breasts) " i want the whole package, i want the moans," etc. so they get back into it and she let loose.

then my dream fast forwards to bobbie telling betty that her and don have been having an affair. betty of course doesn't believe her. so to prove it to her she takes betty to this old run down house on the seedy part of town and there lives adrian brody, the actor. he had installed a tub in bobbie's house and saw her and don having sex. so he tells betty what he saw, and she becomes upset. somehow though she is really drawn to this guy. he completely different than anyone she's ever been around. he's dirty, sleazy, dangerous, and she starts an affair with him, partly to get back at don and partly because she needs something from this man. he opens her up like no man has done before. the sex is phenomenal.

then i woke up.....bummer

hotcho!
What a Dream! I don't know what to say except I would pay to see a scene like this! It would top all sex scenes. Just to see this oh so good girl really going to town with someone so dangerous. Man, what a great scene!!

God yeah, that sounds like a great dream to me! I'll take Adrian Brody, especially after the Halle Berry kiss at the Academy Awards a couple of years ago!

Betty will pretend she imagined the whole thing while drunk.

Then she'll redecorate the house, buy a bunch of clothes and decide the kids should go to private school. Boarding school.

Living well on cheating hubby's money is the best
revenge.

By the way - sorry, I've asked this on another thread but don't remember which one! What does SAB mean re Betty?

As to SAB - the creator of the term will not tell us what it means. I just know that he or she not a fan of Betty. You can come up with your own interpretation, but my guess is that there's a curse word in it.

I just can't imagine not confronting my husband immediately, or telling him at least what Jimmy had said. It's ugly, yes, but talk about lack of communication!

SoFla Kate:
Betty can't spend much because Don's in charge of the money. She probably has an generous allowance for clothing, food, etc. Which is why they didn't get A/C in Season One.

Hint: The "A" in "SAB" is for "absorbed"

Jamm54:
Kissing Halle Berry? Forget the Oscar statuettes. That was the most memorable part of the award ceremony. Millions of guys watching wished they had the opportunity/cujones to do that.

The silence of both Betty and Don in the car means that both are aware that Jimmy ratted Don out to each of them, so Don knows that Betty knows. Given her character, I think that Betty will do what most executive wives did in that situation in 1962: stay in the marriage but insist that, as repayment for his sin, Don must allow Betty to spend as much as she wants on herself and the kids. That's going to mean a better house in a better neighborhood, expensive family vacations, membership in the country club, furs and more jewelry, etc., etc., etc. In other words, Don's going to be paying through the nose for his transgression for the rest of his life. Best, of all, because she knows that he knows that she knows, she's not even going to have to have a confrontation with him about it. She's just going to start spending, and he's going to keep paying without questioning any of the bills. Ironically, on a professional level he's going to be the ultimate beneficiary of his wife's revenge: he's going to get extra points at work for improving his lifestyle, resulting in more promotions. He's going to keep on cheating, and she's going to keep on spending.

On the other hand, if, instead, Betty wants to get her revenge with sex, she'll start having affairs with men Don knows who are in even higher positions than he is--such as Roger Sterling--and make sure he finds out about it.

Ardilla--You are so, so right about Betty's payback method. I grew up during the MM period, and I saw it played out constantly in the upper middle class/wealthy households of my friends' parents. In fact, we've already seen a precedent for it with her friend Francine, whose husband Carleton cheated on her. Remember the scene in Epi 2, I think, where Carleton and Francine come over to play cards with the Drapers and Carleton confides to Don that he's treating Francine to more expensive vacations and other material goodies, but that she just won't let him forget his transgression? They say that sex and money are inextricably intertwined, and I think, at least for upper middle class or wealthy women of that repressed era (and maybe even to a certain extent now, as human nature really doesn't change that much), that money/material possessions are a gilded coverup for profound dissatisfaction, sexual or otherwise.

Visan coined the acronym SAB but I can't remember either what it stands for. The B stands for b*t&h we know that.

Visan?

Oh! I think it means Self Absorbed Bit ch.

I think Betty would be the type to poison Don, slowly. I can see her watching him become ill and playing the concerned and loving wife...Boy am I evil!!

Hi Laurie B.! That's a good guess!

I still think there's going to be some kind of confrontation or liason with Betty and Jimmy. He's returning for the "Six Month Leave" episode which will be his last. Any thoughts?

I still like hotcho's dream. Would love to see Betty in that type of setting for revenge. Just one time. In a way I guess I feel sorry for her.

Unfortunately, I can see Betty taking it out on herself first or the poor kid, Bobby, some more.

I can see her hitting the bottle after breakfast until early afternoon (has everyone forgot "Shoot" and Betty's classic nightgown/BB gun scene?) before she has to pick up the kids. Betty may start to hit her own "Days of Wine and Roses". Maybe Duck will join her.

Oh Jamm54, I did forget about that scene her shooting birds. Man! But, she's really coming out on her own riding horses, going out, etc. She's a little more confident this season. And, I also remember how pitiful it was when she had to bend that little boy's ear in the car about how she had no one to talk to. That was sad.

Also, there's going to be a big scene in the stables. Arthur... anyone?

Well, I just watched previews of next week's episode and Betty does confront Don. She says, "you think you know me. I know what kind of a man you are". It's getting hot!

@Ritt: yes, that Adrian Brody/Halle Berry kiss was better than anything I've ever seen on a movie screen! Wow, wow, wow!

You took the words out of my mouth Nora Paradiso! I was reading all these comments about how Betty would not confront Don, but clearly in the previews for next week shows that she does!!

I'm still reeling over my dream!! That's one of those ones where you wake up and you try your best to pick back up where you left and keep the dream sequence going!!!

I can't believe all these posters that do not like Betty! This is one of those girls you want to see her skirt ruffled. She is SO polite and polished that you want her to do the bad thing, or impolite gesture. Just to really break out of her shell! She is one my favorite characters, and I think she has one of the most intriguing storyline in the show.

Oh yeah, I also don't understand why people don't get that Jimmy took revenge and ratted out Don because Betty turned him down, and he felt she owed him something since Don took something of his, Bobbie.

Ardilla:
"On the other hand, if, instead, Betty wants to get her revenge with sex, she'll start having affairs with men Don knows who are in even higher positions than he is--such as Roger Sterling--and make sure he finds out about it."

It certainly won't be with Roger. He damn near died after that twenty-plus floors hike up the stairs.

And I don't think she has the proverbial balls to make sure he finds out. As Don told Bobbie, "I'll ruin him." One or two "ruinations" and nobody's going to want to come near Betty.

Besides, unlike Don, Betty doesn't get any satisfaction out of having sex with anyone her heart isn't involved with. If she does, then she'll want a divorce. Arthur ain't gonna get the job done. Nor anyone else we've seen so far.

@hotcho: I didn't notice or realize that Betty was deflecting an advance from Jimmy! Guess that one went right by me!

I don't dislike Betty. I feel sorry for her. She's a product of her era/generation, and has only tried to do and be what was expected of her by society and her husband.

The fact that there are elements she never expected to deal with (infidelity, a mystery man for a husband, a feeling of emptiness about her marital role/motherhood) makes it very, very sad for her. Whether Betty can think outside the box of her generation/sex will be the deciding factor on whether her life will be happy or not.

hotsho,
I'm with you. I like Betty. I just really think a twist on her character would be very exciting to watch for us all. Hope it goes that way. Hey, maybe your dream will return for a re-run! I once had a dream right after I saw Baryshnikov dance in person and dreamt we walked hand in hand with our leotards on down New York streets. It was every night. My ex husband said he was going to put his leotards on and dance on the bed The bed would have tumbled. He was quite a big man. Dreams! Boy!
I'm with jamm54, I also didn't notice Betty was deflecting an advance from Jimmy!
Well, Jimmy is going to return on the week after next episode. I wonder what tidings he will bring???

Maybe, I'm wrong. I thought that his calls, and comments constantly about how wonderful she is and how he would love to have her on his arm (when he called her at home) and then when at the party he was flirting with her. I could have been reading into wrong. Or maybe it was all part of his plan to humiliate Don. He was building Betty up just to get them there and then land a bomb on them.

See, hotcho, I thought he was laying on the flattery to set his "trap" of getting Don to the party so he could give it to Don with both barrels.

Yes, I think Jimmy thought Betty was very attractive, but he was almost embarrassingly gauche in his slobbering over her. But, I didn't think she was the focus of that phone call at all - it was to get Don to that party for the "kill".

And once again, we have to say "Poor Betty". She sure gets clobbered by everyone (Don, the clients, McCann Erickson, Roger). She keeps getting used by others for their own reasons. Jeesh, if I was Betty I'd head straight to the liquor cabinet!

hotcho,
Yeah, Jimmy was being such an assenine jerk to Betty. Oh, "I wish I were a fly, I would be all over you. Oh I'm all over you already." And so on. Yes, I see how again he manipulated getting Don there. Don did ask, Betty, why didn't he go through his secretary and Betty answered, " Oh, he likes talking to me." Don knew something was up with him. BTW, Hotcho, I saw Jon Hamm in person and I'm telling you, he's more of a hunk in person. He looks like he's in his 20's so svelte and young looking. He looks older on the show. I think he's 37, but doesn't look like it at all in person. I saw him with his white undershirt and black pants. He's very well built but not bulky like he appears with his suits on. Gasp!

Man, that's just more fuel for my dreams!!! He is soo devilishly cute, I can't stand it! Could he even get cuter in person??? I guess so.

I feel that Jimmy's issue started when he was forced to apologize to that couple. He doesn't want to be managed, and handled by anyone. He might even have an inferiority complex by having his wife, a woman, be his manager. He's tired of everyone running over him, including his wife.
Like he wouldn't know that she views him so belittlingly.

It was time for sweet revenge for ole Jimmy. I personally do not like his character, but I can see the puppet strings on this one, and really can't blame the guy.

What I can agree with you on this one Hotcho is that Jimmy does have an inferiority complex. I think he plays his part so well. An award is due him!

Good insight into Jimmy, hotcho! I think it fits to a tee!

I really think Jimmy likes to be handled by his wife. I don't think her being a woman bothers him either. I see both of them as a team to do business period. I don't see any romantic relationship there, but that he's got an inferiority complex? Yes, he does otherwise he wouldn't have let Bobbie do what she does and wouldn't have been threatened by Don.

Ah sweet revenge! Here's what I would do if I were Betty (who isn't keeping quiet anymore):
1.) Sleeping together/sex is now out of the question. Don can take his pillow and a thin blanket to the couch. Or, better yet, out to the new car (Pee-yoo!! Vomit never really comes out)
2.) I will come and go as I please, and the housekeeper will now move in permanently (making babysitting more accessible). She can take over Don's study.
3.) Shop till I drop...better keep running on that hamster wheel, Don, cuz the bills are flyin' in.
4.) Any gifts, flowers or other peace offerings from Don will go immediately into the trash (except jewelry, which I'll return for cash).
5.) I may arrive at SC one day, quite drunk, and broadcast the news of Don's affair far and wide....or maybe I'll just scratch the news onto the walls of the elevator.....depends on my mood.

Wow! I'm exhausted after all that! Better take off for Europe to rest my weary self! I'll take the kids and the nanny. Why should they suffer? Francine can come too...time for us girls to have some laughs. Don and Carlton can cry in their beer together trying to figure out how they're paying for the trip. Gosh, I'm mean. Tee hee.
(Oh, and any hint of Don getting rough, the cops are called and Donnie can go visit his newfound pals down at the pokey...maybe Peggy can bail him out again).

(I'm really not speaking from experience...just a fantasy I share with many!)

Jolie10:
Yup, that's a fantasy.

Don's not like Harry, not at all.

She doesn't have the main checkbook. After the first bills came in, he'd call every store in town and cut off her credit. Nothing more embarrassing than walking to the counter with an armful of loot and having the cashier say, "I'm sorry Mrs. Draper but your account has been cancelled." Back then you also used to see notifications in the classified section of the newspaper that a husband would not be responsible for any of his wife's debts. Although it usually contained the phrase, "having left our home and bed..."

Showing up drunk, broadcasting to the office, scratching news in the elevator (with the attendant on duty?), etc. would cause embarrassment but Don would shrug, "I'm apologize for what she's done here. She's been under psychiatric care in the past." He could get her committed to an insane asylum. Now there's a cheerful thought.

Violence in those days, well, it would have to be well over the top. Domestic calls usually resulted in both parties being told to keep it down. Getting jugged in those days probably required the use of a knife or gun, at least putting her in the hospital for a while. Don's a grab and twist kind of guy, not a puncher. (Not having had the experience, I'm speaking from what I've heard from the era.)

Don's on the edge of staying married to her anyway. Forget flowers, gifts or other peace offerings for any length of time. After the actions you'd describe, he'd hire a better lawyer than she could begin to afford (well, unless she was sleeping with him). One woman I once knew, whose husband did a lot worse than what Don has, was left with virtually nothing by her rich lawyer husband. Including child support. Her ex- was friends with every judge in the court system.

Ritt: Sad state of affairs, but probably true. Betty wouldn't have had much say, much money, or much power in the situation. Don could always have her put away in a mental hospital if she caused trouble, and we know what pull he had with the last psychiatrist. Don also knows a lot of people who could help him, and he probably knows a judge or two, or at least his bosses do.

Whatever power Betty has would probably come from her father and his money and influence. Helen Bishop told Betty how her father hired a big time lawyer and got her through her divorce. Who knows, maybe Betty won't judge Helen so harshly if she finds herself in Helen's situation.

Well, we know that she does confront Don. But, she says you don't know me. Does she really have power and status somewhere to do him in at SC, or something else. What???????????

I would love for see Betty cheat with a "hero" type...someone who in comparison would make Don's dirty little secrets feel even dirtier. But I just don't think she'll do it. I think she might flirt with the idea (and maybe a hot young blue collar type--remember the tow truck incident from earlier this season?) But I really think she is too entrenched in the propriety of the day to cross the line. I thought Betty's puking in the Caddy was brilliant-spoke volumes.

I'm with you Jamm54. All these comments about Betty's life, I'm about ready to hit the liquor cabinet with Betty!!

Drink & Smoke,
You're hilarious. I feel like I'm talking to Dino!!

I think Betty's "power" is going to be in regard to Don's image/partnership at Sterling Cooper. Can't blow those perfect pictures! That's about the only place she'll be able to leverage/bargain for what she wants with Donny-boy. Obviously sex with her is not going to weight heavily with Don either way.

I think Betty will take revenge. In what form, I obviously don't know, but she has already exhibited feelings of loneliness, trying to fill her time with activities, and curiosity towards other men. She is going to be livid, because despite her feelings and emotions, she has been suppressing them for the sake of their marriage. She doesn't really want to entertain these thoughts and emotions for fear that she will give into them. Now she finds out that Don has been stepping out!! She will either break out and start doing for herself or she's going to start acting crazy and have a nervous breakdown.

Thank you Nora! Cheers to you ;o)

Hi Drink&Smoke! I'm with Nora, all I have to do is look at your picture and I roll laughing!! I feel like
Dino is channeling through you!

Please keep the laughs coming!!

I am liking the Betty character more and more. January Jones plays her perfectly. She is the quintessential 60's housewife/trophy wife/woman on a pedestal. Of course Betty is worth a 1000 Bobbies but Don just wants (needs?) something on the side all the time because of his doubts about himself (identity/manhood/as a father). Betty should have an affair to get back at Don, but she wants Don, first. There aren't any men around who are worthy of her. But, she may "fall" into the arms of someone lowly and make a fool of herself. I hope not. Betty has a special classiness all her own. Don does not deserve her.
Bring on the Women's Movement!

I am liking the Betty character more and more. January Jones plays her perfectly. She is the quintessential 60's housewife/trophy wife/woman on a pedestal. Of course Betty is worth a 1000 Bobbies but Don just wants (needs?) something on the side all the time because of his doubts about himself (identity/manhood/as a father). Betty should have an affair to get back at Don, but she wants Don, first. There aren't any men around who are worthy of her. But, she may "fall" into the arms of someone lowly and make a fool of herself. I hope not. Betty has a special classiness all her own. Don does not deserve her.
Bring on the Women's Movement!

Betty is the whole show as far as I'm concerned. It's HER story. The whole thing is about keeping Betty (and Joan, and Peggy and Jane) in her place...Lo, all these decades later, a black candidate for prez is not nearly as scary to the men in power as a FEMALE candidate.

I'll join Drink&Smoke and Betty at the liquor cabinet, too. If I had Don for a husband, I'd be hitting the double Manhattans straight up all day.

Cheers, jamm54!! We'll just call it a support group meeting, okay?

How about Betty getting the ultimate revenge by dumping Don and taking up with a lesbian?

I mean, if Don can have mistresses, why can't she?

Hey! It looks like #1 on my "revenge list" (posted above) came true.....although I had no idea Betty would kick him out of the house. She's meaner than I'd be! Any bets as to when Carla will be moving in?

Betty will go out and purchase a new Maytag washing machine with the new agitator.

Betty may try for revenge by having an affair but it will go badly immediately. She is not cut out for that kind of thing. The question is who will Don be screwing next. Will Helen Bishop be waxing his Bishop? oh!