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What would be Roger hitting rock bottom: Losing the young squeeze and being rejected? Mona not taking him back? Or being free and single, indulging all of his dissolute habits until they destroy him? Does anyone think Roger would be capable of digging himself out of this hole or would Don have to help him (if he chose to)?
This has to be a good one to discuss. Who remembers these ad campaigns?
"See the USA in your Chevrolet!"
"I'm Mary. Fly me to Miami!" "I'm Liz! Fly me to LA!" "I'm Sally...fly me to Dallas!" Ugh...how much more sexist did it get?
What things did you do back in the early 1960s that were unique to that time?
Finally saw Jon Hamm - he's seated right behind Sally Field.
Not sure how I feel about this 5-Host thing .... but hopefully Jon, John & the entire show will win !
Despite her incredible beauty - I see Betty starting to experiment with all the new products and lifestyle options soon to explode on the marketplace. As Don's philandering knows no limit, Betty will be testing the waters of life outside Ossining's lovely 'old town'. She's no stranger to the city and is having the crash course of wake-up calls. I see Don pulling the plug on the 'damn stables' and Betty will soon tire of piaffing through the afternoons. When November 1963 comes (and goes) I want to see this girl MOD and go Totally Carnaby Street! Any hope of this for Betty?
What is Dick Whitman's (aka Don Draper) real age? We saw him at the doctor a while back and he was 36 as Don, however the real Dick is younger, I think, no? We know he is back from Korea and selling cars in 1952. He was probably drafted and in the 18-20 year range in 1950. We also know he is a depression era kid from the Hobo Code flash back.
Hi, new poster here. I saw on another thread that there was speculation about Betty rebounding by some kind of 'Belle de Jour' scenario - I've been thinking this since the first episode this season - I can definitely see her, especially in her current state of mind, getting back in touch with her 'party girl' ex-roommate, finding out more about the biz, and after lots of conflict, curiosity, contempt for men and complete despair, she'd ask to be set up with a client....
Besides Roger, Bert, and Bobbie, the other characters on the show seem intellectually immature, and truly lacking in a sense of humor about themselves. That, of course, includes Don, Pete, Peggy, Joan, Betty, Rachel, Harry, Sal, Father Gill, et al. They're so wrapped up in their own little lives that I'm beginning to find the show tedious to watch.
I very much miss some of the colognes I wore in the 1960's and are now discontinued. Are any of you experiencing the same frustration?
...when Don and Roger take Freddy out for his kind of "last supper", it struck me as being akin to the mob guys "taking a guy for a ride"...Matthew Weiner referencing his Sopranos roots?...however, fortunately although Freddie's ride is a taxi and he isn't killed, his soul and career is....(I will miss Bill Murray's brother Joel in this role...he was perfect)
...Don picks up the newspaper and sees the headline about MM"s death...MM? MadMen?...
...maybe I was imagining it, but did anyone else notice that in this episode there were a number of blonde Marilyn Monroe type blondes as background extras?...Maybe it was a coincidence?...
It seems evident that Freddie has a drinking problem. They mentioned that he go out and get "dried out." But there never seemed to be any talk of Freddie trying to recover or overcome his alcoholism.
I kept thinking that Duck would go to him and offer some help (like take him to a meeting or offer to be a sponsor), but I guess it's evident that Duck isn't "in the program," or he would have openly offered help to Freddie. I know that AA was around in the 60s (it has been around since the 30s), but I guess there werent many rehab clinics back then. Betty Ford didn't even start until the 70s, obviously.
It would be interesting to see the how Duck handles his alcoholism as well. Just curious where one would go to dry out in the 60s? I
At the gambling place, Freddie and Roger used funny phoney names, Don used Rachel's husband's name. Later Don mentioned Archibald Whitman, an old drunk he used to know. Where their other mentions like this that meant something if a person was paying attention?
I have been reading through old issues of Advertising Age recently. There's a very good timeline of milestones which mirrors the story arc of MM in regards to Sterling Cooper's client roster and Volkswagen (THINK SMALL) in particular. I can't help but wonder about Don and Company in contrast to someone like Jerry Della Femina. Do any of you who worked in Advtsg in the 60s have a take on this? These characters continually refer to McCann Erickson and Doyle,Dane Bernbach and of course we know Duck is a McCann throw away. Without naming names wouldn't it be great to know who's who?
The ONLY comment which acknowledged the genuine grief of Joltin' Joe DiMaggio was delivered by the elevator operator. Joe truly loved Marilyn and for many years had red roses (a dozen or so I think) delivered to her grave as a sign of his unending love. Although she'd since left him and married Arthur Miller, and despite her dangerous affiliations with JFK/Giancana and Judith it was only Joe who'd truly loved Marilyn for herself. When you look at the photo of their wedding day you can see it all over Joe's face. His huge smile says it all. I think it was a poignant comment made by one who, given the nature of his race in 1962, was also 'hiding in plain sight'. But things were changing for the MMs industry as well since Roger informed Don at the illegal casino that "McCann Erickson hired a black man." Don, showing his typical wit and wisdom 'wouldno't want to be that guy'. I wonder, historically, who that first black guy wearing grey flannel was? Anyone????
When Peggy meets Don on first day of her new job, and places her hand over his at his desk, this now seems very out of character for her. What ever caused her to do that? Their relationship now is clearly defined as mutually resp
Talk about Episode 8, "A Night to Remember".
You are alive because of that woman's largess!! Beg forgiveness, claim extreme drunkeness, and crawl if necessary.
Otherwise...Die as alone as you deserve. Geesh, how big a fool can a man be?
It is maddening(pun intended!!!)
Did ANYONE see the title of the book that Betty was reading on her couch? My eyesight (even while sitting too close to the TV) did not permit me to see the title. Was there some relevance to the book which any of you can share? Thanks in advance MM bloggers!
O.K., this is starting to really bug me. Why hasn't Betty gotten that desk drawer open? As angry as she apparently still is, and having found nothing in his closet, I would think she would be down there in that study with a hammer and screwdriver banging away at that lock - forget that lame kitchen knife business. Also, is it likely Don would leave the box of memories there for her to find? Could he possibly have forgotten it is there? Could Betty be afraid of what she might find and can't quite bring herself to really attack the drawer for fear she might find something that will force her to take the final step and end her marriage?
I cannot remember if there has been any mention previously about Pete's father having a drinking problem. I know he died in the plane crash and was actually living off his wife's trust fund, but was he an alcoholic? Pete's disgust with Freddie and the whole urinating and passing out business seemed way out of proportion. Sure, it was shocking, but Pete seemed to take it personally. Peggy just wanted to cover up her friend's problem, and Sal very clearly thought it hilarious and would make a great story. Why did Pete react so strongly?
What is the significance of the Blood Drive? I'm not sure if blood donations were tested for diseases in the 60's. What if Don tests positive for example (syphillis) and he has to tell Betty? P.S. I'm new to the Talk Forum. I've followed all of your posts for a while now and wanted to join the conversation. I love the show. My best friend and I compare notes about it each week.
The title of this episode is "Six Month Leave", which we learn during the course of the show is the proposed drying out period for Freddy Rumsen. Watching this episode the first time, I wondered why it focused so heavily on Rumsen and the events surrounding his dismissal from SC. At the end, however, one can see that Rumsen's departure opens up new opportunities and responsibilities for Peggy and also that Pete's motives in exposing Rumsen were opportunistic and self-serving. Plus we gain insight into the other characters through their responses, such as Don's loyalty, Peggy's gratitude, and even Roger's admiration. Finally, losing his job at SC creates a loss of identity for Rumsen that is also experienced by Don and Betty because of their separation; this is especially true of Betty, who seems completely lost without her marriage. What aspects of this episode were most meaningful to you and why?
There were three different scenes where a character was caught napping on the couch. Joan was laying down in Roger's office, Pete was on his couch when Peggy stormed in and Don was doing the same when Mona barged in.
Thought is was funny when Hildy asked Pete if it was true that he ratted out Freddy.
Betty has been standing her ground against Don's continued lying and stonewalling. Don has been trying to make her think she is in the wrong, despite the fact that she is clearly the injured partner. When Betty tells him that she doesn't "want things to be this way" Don seems very sincere that he doesn't want it, either. Yet he tells Roger that he is "relieved'" not upset about the split. Does he have any conscience about his cheating? Do they have any love left for each other? It's not looking very good.
Epi 9 should have been called "Hypocrisy".
Right after deciding to fire Freddy for his alcohol problem, both Don and Roger have a big drink. Then they take Freddy out on a drunken night on the town.
Don punches Jimmy - it should have been the other way around, as Jimmy is the aggrieved cuckholded husband.
Any 'I, Claudius' fans among the Maddicts? BBC show from the 1970s that observes the decline of Rome into decadence and corrution through the eyes of Claudius, a stutterer taken for a fool who ultimately rises to become emperor of Rome.
I love the bag Bets was carring at the horse barn....been looking for one just like for a long time. Does anyone know who makes it? I'd love to have one.....Thanks for any input.
Three times in this episode (3 times I remember at least) we saw characters lying down on the sofa in a closed office. Pete, Joan and Don Why?
How did you like Don's scolding the guys outside the blood drive room making fun of Freddie pissing his pants. Don scolds them for feeding on the drama like a bunch of high school girls.
That could also be taken as a backhanded slap at the viewers, no?
I don't think of him ending up with her, because she's not his usual caliber of knockout. He's also preferred older women up until now. Clearly, Peggy too sees Don as a father figure, the father she lost. That idea has been given to us in a rather heavy-handed way. But clearly, Don and Peggy also have a connection. Both worked their way up; both aren't we're they're supposed to be. Both are extremely vulnerable, and thus respect the vulnerabilities of others, as was shown by their reactions to Freddy's alcoholism.
Well, the "skirts" are really speaking up now.
Joan: Reminds Roger how hurtful it is lose someone. Will Roger get it??
Peggy: "You just couldn't keep your big mouth shut!" to Tattletale Pete.
Mona: Storms into the Donald's sanctuary and rips him a new one.
Betty: Takes the phone off the hook. Classic!
Joan told Roger that one day he'd lose someone very dear to him, then he'd understand. Could Joan have uttered anything more fitting and prophetic for Roger? Think Roger has stepped out on the ledge by leaving Mona, and is going to take the tumble of his life? Roger doesn't have the experience that Don does in dealing in very complex personal situations. How do you think Roger's going to fare in the future?
Betty, having emerged from her doldrums, impulsively makes a lunch date with Arthur...and Sarah Beth....and then doesn't show.....leaving Sarah Beth alone with her "crush'. What?? Does Betty figure that Sarah Beth needs to discover wild love? What is going on here?
Will it be? When Roger said that to Don in his "orders" to fire Freddie Rumsen (farewell sweet Freddie), my first thought was maybe Roger's right. Then I began to wonder if Don's loyalty to Roger or Peggy or Sterling Cooper is going to end up being a liability for Don. I don't know, but I can see Don's sense of loyalty turning on him.
the ending was just incredible! i sat there staring at the television in disbelief. great story writing that happened off the screen, away from our eyes, dropped like a bomb right in our laps! gimme more!
i do believe roger is in love with jane and she with him. when he was talking to don at the bar, he asked hi, did you fall in love? don said no and he said something to the affect that makes it easier. he loves her. poor mona.
jane is in love with roger or she wouldn't have cried when he came to touch her arm. it's all very tragic.
Our Emmy-winning writers make us fall more & more in love wth this show every week. What were your favorites from Six-Month Leave?
It is very interesting to hear Don say he is "relieved" over the situation of his marriage. I never felt Don was truly comfortable as a husband and father. Sure, he loves Betty and is proud to have such a beautiful and "classy" women for his wife. He is an affectionate and loving father to his children. The fact that he has never shared his past with Betty and in reality is living a lie makes them both feel a void in their relationship. Obviously he thinks she would judge him poorly and now it is probably too late to reveal the truth. I wonder if their marriage can be saved.
I don't know if anyone else noticed Peggy had two pivotal moments last night. The first was when she told Don that it was a good thing that Playtex didn't go with the blonde/ brunette (or something to that effect)Playtex ad because they would have had to pull them all after Marilyn's suicide. Don gave a look of how impressed he was with her insight on that. The second was after she blew into Pete's office and yelled at him for not keeping his mouth shut. She wanted to be so mad at him for telling Roger about Freddie but when Pete informed her that they would all get a raise, lots of accounts and that she would probably get her own office, a flicker of recognition that this was going to be a big opportunity for her crossed her face. Freddie's misfortune was going to open up a lot of doors for her.
Jimmy Barrett once again has the most significant line of the episode, following from his "You're garbage" reality-check a few weeks back.
This week, he calls Don "the man in the gray flannel suit", an analogy to Don as the main character (Tom) from the book of the same name:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_in_the_Gray_Flannel_Suit
review of 2.9 ... one of the best Don and Roger episodes so far...
Addiction seemed to be a running theme throughout tonight's episode; its apparent in the death of Marilyn Monroe splashed on the newspaper headline and in the streaming mascara of the secretaries. However, addiction seemed to be weaved through the various stories of the characters, for instance: Frank's addiction to drink, or Betty's addiction to finding evidence on Don's affairs (rifling through his desk drawers). Addiction wreaks havoc on those who succumbed; Frank lost his job and suffered an embarrassment to his name/reputation. Betty lost her vitality, due to her constant (and understandable) attention on Don's indiscretions.
Although this show has many intertwined stories and nuances, the episode's thrust on addiction was riveting and poignant.
Why was Jane crying? I think Roger has real feelings for Joan, not Jane. He may be sleeping with Jane, but loves Joan. What do ya think?
Many of us have been waiting for Carla and other Black/African American characters to not only speak more lines but to give their insights on the messed up lives of the other characters whose foibles and antics they silently witness. Tonight we finally heard something of substance from Hollis in the elevator and Carla at the Draper residence. So far they are probably the most sensible, normal, dignified and empathetic characters on the series. Both of these characters have heard and seen a lot from the others, whom they serve and who mostly seem to ignore them. I look forward to more from these two - what about you?
Maddicts, it's the "Mad Men Word Association Game 2.0"!
Remember, this is how it works: a word or phrase related to MM that starts one letter of the alphabet is posted and the next person posts another MM-related word or phrase that starts with the next letter of the alphabet. The list continues through the alphabet, and when we get to "z", we'll start again with "a".
Okay, what other Mad Men talk forums do you frequent, and why?
I love the authentic details that make the show seem like it's 1962, but how did you miss this??? Panty hose however, did not exist back then... we actually wore garter belts with thigh high stokings!
Don's secretray handed him a shopping bag that had a name that seemed like J. Menkens or something close to that on it. I am pretty familiar with NYC in that period and the name does not ring a bell. Anyone know? Loved the freezer that was not self defrosting.
Pete is a truly horrible person!!!! He is a ruthless, cutthroat, heartless bastard! He seems to have no probelm using people for whatever he wants to secure whether it is sex, power, money, prestiege etc... but when ever he sees the opportunity to advance himself he will do anything to sabatoge or destroy anyone. He uses women for sex,. He occasionally betrays his co-workers for personal gain. He is a certified asshole!!! Look what he tried to do to Don last year! I cannot stand him!!! He is a pathetic human being!
I flipped around during a commercial and there was Sal talking about being gay. Did anyone else see him?
Okay, go to the Blog, and watch the Episode 10 Sneak Peek video. See if you can find the clue about Peggy's baby situation.
Since I've been stranded at home by the Atlanta gas crisis and it's nearly the time of year for one of my all-time favorite films I'm going to be...While awaiting what I expect will be the beginning of the end for Don and Betty...Totally self-indulgent and cast our guys in said beloved classic, "The Bride of Frankenstein".
John Slattery...Praetorius, no question...My favorite character in the film, the mad, cynical, yet quirkily courageous Praetorius may be evil personified but compared to Colin Clive's wussy Frankenstein who's abandoned his creature and fleeing all responsibility for his actions (sound familar?), Praetorius is a bold if crazed pioneer with a definite Roger streak...An inspiration to young kids who became somewhat less crazed but adventurous scientists.
When Peyton List became Don's secretary I thought where have I seen her before?
Well now I know....she was Cameron on TV's Big Shots on ABC. Love her new role! It is so much better!
Mad Men was my favorite from the first day it aired. I, however got interested in Big Shots on ABC and fell away from my first love -Mad Men. Then when Big Shots got cancelled I realized "why did I ever leave?" I am back and it is fabulous!!! =)
Mad Men has story lines that are deep and I love how you never know what will be happening next.....
I just want to tell all of you how much fun I have had on this site the last two weeks. I did not think I would be able to stand the long boring wait between the last original episode and tonight's, but thanks to you all it has been a very enjoyable time. So many interesting insights into the characters and such fun guessing what is in store for them. This is a great site, and I highly recommend it to anyone new to watching this wonderful show. I know it is just a TV show, but it has allowed a bunch of strangers to share genuine feelings for each other and a lot of tears and laughter - it doesn't get any better than this. Thank you so much!
I will return to my NBA and college basketball obsession and the timing is right. I'll also rent a lot of movies I've been meaning to watch. And I'm hoping "Revolutionary Road" and "Home Front" will be available soon. Plus I plan on buying Mad Men's Season One DVD and watching that all over again.
I've been watching Season One the past few days.The scene where Pete tells his father that he and Trudy have found an apartment and they are going "to need some help". His father refuses and belittles Pete for the career he has chosen. Then from Pete: "Why is it so hard for you people to give me anything?"
Mr. Campbell:" We gave you everything. We gave you your name. And what have you done with it?"
THE SONG AT THE END OF THE EPISODE WAS,
"EARLY IN THE MORNING" SUNG BY PETER PAUL
AND MARY.......ORIG. RECORDED IN 1962..........
GO TO YOU TUBE, THE ORIGINAL VERSION IS THERE........IT TRULY IS AN "OUTSTANDING" SONG....
KARMA27
Just checking to see if you are handling and surviving.... come back to us when you can.....
Here is a thought that occurred to me today, for no particular reason:
What if Betty already knows that Don is really Dick Whitman? Now, I suppose it's unlikely, but what if?
OMG! It's time for the next episode! Anyone else starting to freak out?! OK, now I'm showing my age!! Freak out? Groovy!
I'm sitting here channel surfing, and what do I see...
Diane Gilman selling what she calls "Mad Men fashion" on HSN! Nothing looks 60's to me! Anyone else see this, or did I just get some bad coffee this morning!? This seems like a major league rip off to me! They just showed a clip from MM...yet there is no connection between MM and these fashions. Oh, now some Hollywood gal is on with Diane Gilman saying her husband has something to do with MM?
Am I the only one who was deeply disturbed that Duck ditched his beautiful Golden? How could he? Was it a childish way of getting back at his wife? When I watch the episode again I fast forward through that scene it is that painful to watch. OK I love dogs but who took their dog to work in the sixties? In Manhattan--presumably taken from the suburbs.
Jon Hamm's voice as Don Draper sounds very familiar to me - the pitch and intonation - as well some of his facial expressions.. It took me a couple of episodes, but I think I've got it narrowed down to either Robert Fuller ("Wagon Train," "Emergency!") or Christopher George (1929-1983). My hesitation is mainly because it's been a while since I've seen anything that George or Fuller was in. There's also a third possibility of a actor in Westerns in the 1960s, whose name I don't know (sorry, not very helpful) - but he was a big guy, bigger than John Wayne or Fess Parker usually appeared, who frequently played the sheriff.
Ok, I SWEAR I don't normally read this rag, but I was in a very long checkout line at the grocery store and there it was. Obviously written by a back-biting anonymous person, it says he is petty and full of himself and has a big ego. Imagine that, an actor with a big ego!
Nice big picture of Christina and her green gown at the Emmys though!
Same people over and over again, long posts, who can be bothered to read them?
it would be nice if they mentioned Paul Newman as he would have been a rising star in 1961
They play so many great songs from the early 1960's in this series. Let's talk about the ones you especially like.
You wake up every morning hoping it's finally Sunday.
Add your Maddicisms here.
I'm new to this show, having just purchased the DVD set of Season 1 and watched them all in the past 24 hours - which was extraordinarily surreal, immersing oneself in the claustrophobia of 1950s-60s American middle-class society. Most of the time I was watching, I felt like I couldn't breathe. My apologies if my questions and comments have already been discussed. I was surprised to see a stick-on address label on the telephone bill Betty gets out of Don's desk - but since the rest of the envelope looked authentic (4¢), it may simply be that my experience in the South was different from 1960s' practices of Ma Bell in New York. Can anyone help me with this?
I was surprised to see the pattern of Sally's pajamas - I had a dress made out of something similar, but with orange instead of pink flowers, circa 1968.
Let's all take a moment to pay tribute to a wonderful actor and a nice human being. Anyone who loves movies has to have any number of Mr. Newman's in their list of all time favorites. A personal favorite of mine is "The Long Hot Summer" with his wife, Joanne Woodward. Share your favorites with us.
Since we have had such fun with the Mad Men Quotes and Word Associations games, I would like to suggest another. This involves no words, only actions. Give us a character and something he or she did rather than said that really struck you. For instance, I remember my jar dropping at the end of the picnic scene when Don Draper stood up and threw his beer can as hard as he could - and he wasn't aiming at the litter can! That scene really struck me, and it happened all over again when I saw it the second time during the marathon. So what scenes have stayed with you, Mad Men fans, as showing us the characters without the benefit of words?
O.K, what's your favorite candy from your childhood? Don's memory of the violet flavored candy that his father ate started me thinking of the candies of my childhood. My favorite old uncle loved horehound drops, which were always refused by my sisters and me. He also liked a coconut bonbon type that my sister swears got her hooked for life on coconut candy - she is a big Mounds fan. My Grandma loved what she called Opera Drops - chocolate coated little mounds with a creamy filling. We never turned up our noses at those. I love anything chocolate, but personal favorites back then were a Cherry Mash and peanut butter logs. Oh, gosh, I want some candy!
Think up two things you want a MM character to know about the future from '62 to '08. One should be a warning (e.g., 9/11) and one a bit of helpful advice (e.g., lay off food containing red dye #2). Be sure to specify the character you are tipping off!
The package design for Utz potato chips appears exactly the same now as it did in 1962. Does anyone know if this is accurate?
After watching the reruns yesterday I am now convinced that it is indeed Mort Sahl who is represented by the dark and often moribund comedy of Jimmy Barrett! I just finish looking at the UTube clips and Googlling all the clips relevant to Sahl an there is no doubt any more. All the comics of the day including Don Rickles, Alan King, Woody Allen, Lenny Bruce, et.al agree that it WAS Salh who influenced them. It's interesting readying in that I don't think we are done with this character OR his skanky wife, Bobbie. Is everyone as ready as I am for Sunday night? I await (along with all of you) the long overdue shriekfest from Peggy directed at Pete (who's asleep in his office and seemingly stunned by her outburst)! Or did I ready the "next on Mad Men" clips wrong? Fellow bloggers?
who plays Harry
he was on The Office last night and looks like he will have a re-ocurring role
Life imitating art?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09252008/business/yahoo__invites_mad_men_star_over_to_apt_130680.htm
here's my dilemma. i'm late to mad men, however, i'm hooked after viewing season one on dvd. i don't particularly want to wait until season two is out on dvd and find viewing the sneak previews lacking. anyone know of a way to catch up, so next sunday i'll be up to date. thanks
Hello, fellow Maddicts -- are you all feeling as good as I am right now? I've "gone without" for 10 days and now am getting a feast! The only downer is the stupid hotels.com commercial.
In "The New Girl" is the cop who detains Don played by "Ross the Intern?" He looks SO familiar and I swear that's who it is.
this might me a strange question but any idea on how someone mihgt get ther dringking glasses on mad men i amd talking about the gold rim with the fall leaves on them my parents had them would llike to get a set
OK- so I have been thinking back of the season over the past week and the amount of stuff that has been uncovered. Then, I thought of the three main promos used for season two. The music (the lyrics really) completely foreshadowed what would happen this season. What I really liked, was that the songs in the background applied to Don and Betty.
The song, The Truth, by Handsome Boy Modeling School is taken from Betty aimed at Don. The lyrics to the song are:
Another way for Maddicts to obsess and bond over our favorite show - it's the Mad Men Quote Game! Here's how you play:
Someone posts a quote from the show. Someone else identifies which character said the quote and the name of the episode in which it was said, and then posts another quote for people to identify.
Take heart Maddicts, this is for the insane fans who know the show inside and out. Please have a quote ready when you identify the previous quote, and use the preview button to make sure everything's right. Display your amazing knowledge of MM by playing this game.
Here's how it will look:
Post #1: QUOTE - "It goes backwards and forwards and takes us to places we ache to go again."
Post #2 Don during a presentation in "The Wheel"
QUOTE - "Stop acting like a little girl"
Post #3 Joan to Peggy in "Maidenform"
QUOTE - "I'm the only Jew you know in New York City?"
Let's try it! The first post will have the first quote.
Just a friendly reminder that AMC is having a Mad Man
Today (9/25) is the Season 2 mini-marathon beginning @4:00p.m. EST.i have noticed recently that there are more "newbies " posting on the boards and many have missed previous episodes. If time allows,today would be a great time to watch them and get caught up to where we left off. When i was sick at home this summer i lucked out and caught the Season 1 Marathon and I was a devout fan when the final episode aired.I think I broke a new record for continuous T.V. viewing in one sitting.It was a great day to be stuck at home with the flu!
Maddicts can't get enough? AMC is replaying the first 8 episodes today. Check the schedule for your area. 3-11 PM in CDT zone.
What has happened to the man who was ready to pull the trigger on Don Draper? It's understandable that he's needed time to recover from his blugeonings by Don last year but we need to see our boy wonder making some moves again. Peter, Harry Crane is head of a department! Last year you were ready to pimp your "lovely" wife out to get an article published. Adjustment is all very well but it's time you were plotting to stick a knife in dear ole Harry.
"Yeah, but he's head of...Television..." chuckle from our Pete. "And here in the little book Burt Cooper gave me, 'How to Succeed in Business' it says clearly in Chapter 10, 'Congratuations, you are now head of a department. Unless you are head of...Television.' So what have I got to work about?"
Jimmy Barrett was a long time winning me over but I...well, no one can like the guy...But you can develop a grudging respect for him. He's the court fool...Licensed to say anything, even the truth, but utterly despised, even to some extent by Bobbie who seems to have come up the same way as he. Clearly he returns that contempt in ample measure, but always with that honesty that gives him a modicum of dignity...Remember how quickly he nailed Betty for her anti-Semetism "You mean comedians?" Not to mention pinning Don down like a captured butterfly..."You wanna step out, get a whore." There's a huge black soul in pain there but it's an honest one who despises the phoniness of the Drapers and their "perfect" life. I think whatever he claimed there was real pain under the scar tissue...Not that he trusted Bobbie in the slightest or expected any faith or devotion from her, but that couldn't stop it from cutting him up. One of many such cuts one could imagine. And now what will our Court Fool do? I would not be surprised to find any man jumping at the end of this season to be Jimmy Barrett for whom life has just turned too rancid and poisonious.
It's now Wednesday night and I still haven't gotten my prepaid episode from the iTunes store. From what I understand it's up to the cable channels to upload their episodes, not Apple. If that's the case, why would AMC make us wait? Isn't iTunes suppose to be an incentive against piracy?
I was a little confused that Mr. Morse's nomination was for Best Guest on a Drama series. I thought he was a principle player, especially in Season One.
I was disappointed that he didn't win!
I really really wanted to see him go on stage in a pair of socks! LOL!!
Just because the other one is SO long, let's continue here discussing absolutely anything you want to.
The point may be moot but an idea popped into my head.
What was Bobbie's logic for coming onto him in the car? (Great silhouette scene in the bar, by the way.) Just because he was handsome and good-looking? That he had in some measure, power? That Jimmy wasn't, shall we say, getting the job done in bed? This was her way of negotiating for Jimmy? Older than Don by several years, she was still testing her desirability?
Nobody seems to have asked about her motivation.
Perhaps Duck's real purpose in the show is to show Don a mirror of what he will be in ten, fifteen years if he continues down his current path. It may be it will be Duck who provides such a warning personally as word of the Drapers' troubles seeps out.
Since things seem pretty desperate, suppose Dick more or less gave up, and told Betty everything, even about Dick Whitman, not really expecting her to understand or forgive and agreeing she has no reason to but at the end of his rope and glad to have it all off his chest at last. I wonder if it could be made believeable that she might find the compassion and empathy to understand and forgive him. It would make for an interesting couple of episodes and probably involve some difficult writing and acting, still stranger things have and do happen in real life. Could Betty do it and could they put their lives back together after that? I imagine Don will not and they will either break up or he will confess a little, just enough to satisfy her, and go on concealing the rest, with the Drapers barely and colding staying together for the childrens' sake. Lucky kids....
Hi fellow Maddicts! Well what a fantastic win for Mad Men!!! All of the awards were so well deserved, but, for a show to win Best Drama in it's first season! WOW!! They can only go up from here!! And I'll be right along for the ride! I would loved to have been there when the whole cast and crew were on stage together at the end! John, Robert, and Jonn all deserved the Emmys in their catagories, but, their day will come! I couldn't be prouder to call myself a MM fan (AKA Maddict)!!!!!
Matt Weiner, Jon Hamm, and John Slattery are guest on NPR's Fresh Air this past Monday. Here's the link. Take a listen and discuss. There was a lot of insight that I had not heard before about the show, how the ahttp://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13&prgDate=09-22-2008&view=storyviewctors got the parts and other insights. Great!
Some of my friends from North Jersey where I used to live (Linden) can't get AMC on their cable TV. Shame on CATV ! (I kind of remember that was the cable company). And the owner is the same jerk that owns the New York Knicks and the mess it's in. Hopefully that will change.
Has anyone considered that Don cheats with women he considers whores so as to connect with his mother, positively or negatively?
Read this on some other sights. Wanted to share! Woo-hoo!
Danny Lindstrom, the (new) Head of Broadcast Operations was telling a joke as Joan entered Harry's office.
"So, Turk doesn't know which way to turn he's so drunk. So finally, he stops. We get out of the car and the sign says, "Bridge Out." (laugh)
Is this a joke and I just don't know it? Does anyone know the whole story he was telling? Also, I read somewhere that Harry had hired his old college buddy. Is that stated somewhere (I've forgotten where I read it), or is the 'Turk' they are talking about the connection to college days?
OK fellow Maddicts - it's time to start a new game on the forum and pass the time until the next new episode on Sunday (finally)!
I'm going to call it the "Mad Men Word Association Game. I'll post a word (or phrase) related to MM that starts with the letter "a" and the next person needs to post another MM-related word or phrase that starts with the next letter of the alphabet. We'll continue creating a list of MM words and go through the alphabet. When we get to "z", we'll start again with "a". Please post the previous word as well as your new addition so that we can see the two words strung together and keep track of where we are in the alphabet. Here's how it will look:
Post #1 : Ad agency
Post #2: Ad agency > Betty
Post #3: Betty > Catholic priest
Okay guys, let's see if this can work! The first post will be the first word.
Hopefully AMC will air marathons of Seasons 1 and 2 so that people who never heard about "Mad Men" until they won the Emmy for best drama series will get to see it from the get-go. The summer is over (no more beach, lake, mountains trips?) and people will be more inclined to spend a day watching the marathons. It would be nice to add a lot more Maddicts to keep our favorite show going on infinitum (sp?).
There is an article at Boston.com (for Boston Globe) that talks of the women on MM and a tie in to Sarah Palin. I can't get the link to copy, but it is in the A & E section
heh heh.... you didn't think we forGOT, did you?
If you cannot accept Peggy's out-of-wedlock pregnancy storyline at face value and must invent bizarre interpretations of your own, here's the place for you!
Did episode 9 not air on Sunday? It didn' show up on my DVR. Was there a week off?
In which one does Peggy get birth control pills?
Did anyone notice the strained behavior between Jon Hamm and January Jones. They stood side by side on the stage but never looked at one another or spoke to one another. Does anyone know what their off-screen deal is?
Wow, is there any way that January Jones' dress can be written into an episode? Man oh man, how hot was that?
First of all, congrats to MADMEN for winning the Emmy!!! When I heard about it I was thrilled. I was disappointed that Jon Hamm didn't win, but hopefully he will next year.
So now that we know the show is appreciated by Hollywood, and will hopefully (most likely) be renewed for next season, how may shows are left for season 2? I couldn't remember if there were 10 for season 2 or more. I'll be sad when the show ends for season 2 but I plan on buying the DVD's to keep me until they return for season 3.
Can something be done about our comments being posted out of sequence? It has been happening for several days now, it seems, and is very annoying. If you could fix this problem, pretty please, we would all be very grateful. Thank you.
I watched it again when it became clear the Emmys was going to be an awful waste of time - which became clear to me as soon as the 5 - count'em 5 hosts came out and all started talking at once.
Any, way I enjoyed Three Sundays all over again. I was especially touched anew at the end when Don Draper and his little boy had their conversation about Don's dad. I can think of many scenes where Don D. hugs his kids, but can't recall that Betty ever does - am I wrong?
Also, the end scene where Father Gil gives the egg to Peggy and says it is for the little one also struck me anew - especially Peggy's expression as he walks away. Surely she was wondering who told him about the baby?
Can't believe we have to wait another 6 days for a new episode....
Am I the only person who did not know that last night's episode would be a rerun?
CHRISTINA HENDRICKS LOOKED FABULOUS ON THE RED CARPET . GIRLFRIEND GAVE THEM PURE-TEE BOSOMS! SHE WAS A THROW-BACK TO THE GLAMOUR GIRLS OF THE 50'S, BRAVO MISS HENDRICKS YOU DID THE "BOYS" PROUD
Hey why is there a repeat tonight...there was no mention of that?
Since we had such a great discussion on who would be named what in our 1962 yearbook, go find a picture of yourself -- go to yearbookyourself.com. Enter a b/w picture of yourself and then adjust it, etc. You'll get a picture of yourself from a certain year - you can select it. Try 1960 and 1962. I roared as I did it!
Just showed Christina Hendricks arriving on the red carpet on E!. Gorgeous green-toned gown, looking like a beautiful Greek Goddess! GO MAD MEN! Sweep the Emmys!
will anyone from mad men be at this years emmy awards? if so, i hope they are in character.
I just cried when I saw that there's not a new episode this week.
Wha' happen?
I'm joesin.
I just finished watching the DVD version of Episode 4, season 1. Just wanted to know if the little kid Betty talks to in the car, the one that took the lock of her hair, happens to be the same kid, older now, that was in "A Perfect World", the one that played "Phillip"?? Anyone?
Beyond those who rabidly detest it, those who do it and decry their supposed "helpless inability to break their addictions," and those who have rationally chosen to avoid it altogether for all number of perfectly sound health concerns, there are a rather significant number of people the world over who find cigarette smoking to be more much more than merely quaint and colorful. There are actually those to whom smoking is so psychologically provocative that it has grown to be a permanent and persistent facet of their sexualities.
And I'm one of them. I'm a lesbian who is turned on by her own smoking, and by the smoking of other women.
We come in all orientations and genders, and include smokers, closet smokers, former smokers, non-smokers, and even some (public) anti-smokers.
I love the instrumental music from the 50s and 60s - you never hear that kind of music on the car radio these days. Personal favorites from back then include:
Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White
Wonderland By Night
Sleep Walk
Stranger on the Shore (and anything else by A. Bilke)
The Lonely Bull
Anyone remember Joan's response when Peggy told her about overhearing Don on the telephone with a woman not his wife? I believe she said something along the lines of "So that's why he's never hit on me" (yes, I know that terminology is wrong for the times and the gal - just can't remember her exact words). Well, what do you think the chances are that once she gets wind of the fact he is on the outs with his wife, she will make a play for him? Would her affections for Roger hold her back? Would her highly suspect affections for her doctor hold her back? Would anything hold Joan back once she really set her sights on a man? Somehow, I think Don would meet his match with Joan.
Photos from the gathering... including Christina Hendricks, John Hamm and Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=photoGalleryAlbum&galleryid=1934&order=11
Does anyone know why the cable companies haven't put Episode 8 On Demand yet? They're not running it tomorrow night. I have Charter Cable and they haven't put it up yet. Charter is very poor at communication so I I'm asking here to see if this is the case everywhere and if so, why.
Why does Bert call Roger "peanut"? And why does he have a picture of Roger on his desk, and no one else, not even his deceased partner (Sterling)? That nickname gives their relationship an aura of something more than being Roger's father's "partner" in an advertising firm. Has anybody else ever wondered about when Sterling Cooper started, and what happened to Roger's father, especially since his name is listed first in the partnership?
Could there be some product placement with UTZ going on? I had barely heard of this brand, just a cheaper brand of potato chips that my kid's friend brought home. Then, this week, I'm in the Stop & Shop, and there are "UTZ" products everywhere! Not just chips, but pretzels, popcorn, etc. Will "Mad Men" make "UTZ" the new "Lays"? By the way, did anyone eat UTZ chips as a kid? We had Lays. Remember Bert Lahr, "You can't eat just one." He was the Cowardly Lion, but also an older Jewish comedian with a history in vaudeville.
....check out John ("Jon?") Hamm on The Soup (on E!) this weekend, telling a very funny story about his experience being kidnapped by Regis Philbin....
he does a pretty good "Reege" also....
I would love to see that story line developed, or at least give one of the Black characters a meatier roll. There was alot of interacial hanky-panky going on back then, I grew up and played with the children of an interracial couple that lived next door. Besides Dons sleeping with every body else what difference would it make? How about Betty's maid? she was pretty. What if Don came in from the office one day and Betty wasn't home, and he just took him "some" from the maid........ when you cast this part my ph # is 555-1234
Hey all of you Maddicts on Facebook - I created a group for us. There are some other Mad Men groups on there, but mine is called Maddicts. See you there!
Will she have a fling with Ken Cosgrove ( his character needs a fuller story line - I like him) and inspire him to write a bestseller about the folks in the advertising business ala "Peyton Place"?
Will she seek the comfort of a Daddy figure and go for an older man? Not Roger, probably, as she would surely recognize him as another cheating husband, and she wouldn't want that, would she? Besides, that would expose her to the wrath of Joan - although THAT could be interesting. How about Duck - she knows he is single, and he brought her flowers. I could see him consoling her until she decides what she really wants. Perhaps she will be his great love, and her loss will drive him back to the bottle and a "Lost Weekend" kind of storyline as he drunkenly wanders the streets of NYC desperately seeking Chauncey.
Wow, I was traveling this week and swamped with work so didn't see "A Night to Remember" until last night. I took a lot of discipline to not read the posts until this morning.
Anyone notice in the 'Utz' commercial how the camera lingered on Betty when Jimmy utters the line, 'Am I crazy? I don't think so.' Amazing. Betty for much of the shows seems to think she is going crazy because she knows but cannot prove that Don is a dishonest man. Maybe it's me, but I think hearing Jimmy utter that line, after their conversation the previous episode, was what steeled her resolve. As an aside, did the writers know that this commercial would come back at a pivotal moment for Betty and write it accordingly? Phenomenal stuff.
Season 3 is being created in the minds of the writers as we speak!
So here is your chance to really influence the show. Give us your best sales pitch for the new season and please remember that the time line will be advancing into the 60's.
THEME; Give ideas about specific themes the writers can build a show around and how this will advance the characters and plot
If you haven't checked out the AMC Mad Men Blog page lately, several new entries were posted yesterday, including an interview with the two Johns - John Slattery and John Hamm are Freaking Out
http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/2008/09/jon-hamm-john-slattery-emmy-interview.php
I swear I touched nothing and the darn post got away from me! As I started to say, Joan strikes me as a pretty controlling office manager who rules the lowly secretaries with an iron fist in an metal gauntlet. I think it would have been entirely in character for her to have tried to find Peggy and ask her why she did not come back to work after having been given a promotion. Don Draper went looking for her and found her, why not Joan? She might not have actually talked to Peggy, but if Joan contacted Peggy's family, they just might have been in such a state of shock over the unexpected pregnancy and birth that they would have spilled the beans to Joan, especially if she came across as Peggy's sympathetic friend. We know she is very good at worming things out of people if she suspects something. I feel sure she would have suspected something when Peggy did not show up for work as expected.
That is the title of a great little book my sister gave me awhile back for my birthday. It was written and illustrated by Ilene Beckerman. With chapter headings from the 40s thru the 80s, it is filled with delightful drawings and stories of what she wore for all the big and little events of her life, from confirmation, high school and college dances, to dinner dates at the Copacabana and weddings. For anyone who has nostalgia for the fashions of the past, it is a funny, poignant little book. The book jacket informed me that Ms. Beckerman, at the time of her book being published, was a vice president of an advertising agency.
http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/2008/09/talk-forum-what-15.php
There was a yellow booklet that my dad and mom using to have (though it was 1964 when it came out) called, "The Drinking Man's Diet". I recall it was all the rage back then but of course had no medical merit. It was basically Atkins with booze (and I mean distilled spirits only) since Beer and Wine do have carbs. Anyone remember this? Amazon has reissued the little pamphlet which would likely be in every desk at Sterling Cooper. The adherent to this 'diet' would usually wind up a few pounds lighter, and drunk. It would be a great prop for later episodes, don't you think? Since we have to stay focused till "Six Months Leave", I'm trying to dredge the old brain files for 63-4 memorabilia. I believe the current term for all that great stuff is 'mid-century'.
We Maddicts post our thoughts and select our usernames and icons with precision. Tell us your alter ego "backstory" (not to confuse with Nora's who are you in real life thread) . . . I'll go 1st to get this party started!
If you haven't seen it yet, check out this stylish and snappy photo shoot with Rich Sommer, Bryan Batt, Aaron Staton, Vincent Kartheiser and Michael Gladis.....
http://www.playboy.com/style/fashion/mad-men/mad-men-pg8.html
....and also (courtesy of Rich Sommer's blog) in their jammies at the annual Playboy Mansion Pajama Party....
http://a3.vox.com/6a00c2251c4b71604a00fae8d67ecb000b-pi
I am procrastinating or avoiding ____________________
Anyone else tuning into the Emmy's for the first time ever, solely because Mad Men is heavily nominated? I'm so embarrassed! I LOATHE award shows.
I have noticed while visiting with you folks that several of you have voiced your dislike for various commercials currently running "ad nauseum" on our TV screens. Care to expound further on those ads you hate and those you love? C'mon, folks, it will help pass the time 'til the next new episode. (I am starting to experience serious withdrawal pangs.)
I think we should create a new drinking game around MM - a new version of "Hi, Bob." Everytime Roger bums a cigarette, Don sleeps with a woman (not Betty), Harry says, "I'm married," or a woman says, "Of course," we have to drink. Other possible drinking cues: Betty telling the kids to go watch TV, "I used to be a model," Pete in Don's office.
What else? This will be fun!
I read an online article @ nationalpost.com that said mad man had already won 4 "lesser category" emmys last saturday. the show took place at the shrine auditorium (the same place where this sunday's awards take place), it is called the creative arts awards. does anyone know what categories they won in? also the article stated the MM is the odds on favorite to win best drama, thats the good news. the bad news is the article also stated that boston legal's james spader is the odds on favorite to win best actor in a drama. i know i am a little bias & james spader does a fine job, but jon hamm should absolutely win for best actor hands down.
http://isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/18/1883568-will-mad-men-make-emmy-history?threadId=361879&cmt=3006344#c3006344
With the Emmies coming up MSN/Careerbuilder has an article online "Real Life Pay for Jobs Seen on TV".
Don Draper, "Mad Men" -- Creative director and junior partner, advertising agency
Real-life median salary: $81,000, according to CBSalary.com. As a high-ranking and successful businessman in the 1960s, Don (Jon Hamm) would probably make less than today's median salary. Despite that, he certainly made enough to cover the expenses of his "picture-perfect" lifestyle -- featuring cigarettes and liquor, a wife and two kids, and his extramarital affairs.
Discuss
Have you noticed how the kids are always watching television? Even when they break into their parents love making session (or non-lovemaking session), they are sent back to watch t.v. and eat. Is this what made us all here. Look at us, we are hooked on this t.v. show and can't wait discuss it here all week long awaiting the next episode! (This is a good thing BTW) But, one thing I have to say, can't Betty play with those kids a little bit. Some games, help in their homework. I guess it really wasn't like that in those days. If it weren't for TV forget it! I for one admit to be top "Couch Potato" Anyone else join me? Any thoughts?
Since we have another week to hack the stories, tell us your story. Often, I get on the site after a day's work here in L.A. and everyone is saying good night, hence they are on the east coast. And, I wonder were people are and who they are that I'm sharing so much with. Finally, I find out who scfan is from her being depicted on the blogs and chosen as best fan by Clayton! Now, do you dare tell us who you are and why you blog with us all on this great forum?
Do you know how Don Draper's story will end?
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I love talking to the characters on Twitter. All of them stay in character and you feel like you are really talking to the person in the show. It's exciting and great marketing! Except for one major flaw. Don Draper, the one everyone wants to talk to, is totally miscast on twitter and RUDE to the point of avoidance. The higher-ups need to replace this guy ASAP.
By hearing-impaired on September 18, 2008 1:00 PM
Any one curious as to why the producers, execs and director of Mad Men choose to
willingly disenfranchise millions of hearing impaired tv watchers - who use closed
captioning - from being able to watch Mad Men? If one notices, almost all
advertisers who use closed captions with their ads use upper case closed captions.
Why? Upper case closed captions can be read by all tv watchers who use cc's; this
includes those who can read the lower case cc's employed by less than a handful of
stations (National Geographic, which should know better; the Boston PBS station,
which should also know better than showing contempt for millions of viewers; and the
CBS and NBC "old-time" networks.)
Several people mentioned in the forum that there are previews Don thinking about Rachel. Where did you see them, I checked the videos and there's only one about Roger, Don, etc going to a gambling place. Any help????
Since we're posting topics to pass the time over the next 2 weeks, I thought it would be interesting to see what kind of playlists/soundtracks all you Maddicts would put together for season 2. (These can include songs that have played in the episodes as well). There are so many wonderful songs and phenomenal artists from that period, I find myself listening to more and more music from that era lately. I'd love to see what kind of list this season could inspire.
Okay, I'm back from the WGA event & Matt was there with Robin Veith who started off as his writing assistant and is now part of the staff. She co-penned "The Wheel" with Matt & used to travel with Ringling Bros circus. Matt had the final nostaglia speech Jon made at the end of the epi before the Kodak wheel. He asked his prop folks to come up with a product that would thematically fit. Anyway, Matt said his favorite scene in the pilot is when Don pulls out his desk drawer and gets a fresh white shirt. He said they're on a tight 7-day schedule, meaning they turn over a new script every week! To save money on a scene that would have normally cost $100K, they shot the flashback scene with Don on the train, back from the war, in a ROOM. They shook the camera to give the effect of a moving train. They went through 90 actors before choosing Jon Hamm. He said he knew JH was Don as soon as he saw him. Also, Jon was super nervous during his audtion. Elizabeth Moss was the second audition to read for the part & he hired her right away. I was too much of a dummy head to go say hello after the event but he seemed like a cool guy although admitting to being quite anal. But Mad Men is all in the details so it makes sense.
What did Matt Weiner say at the WGA tonight. Please tell us!!
Sterling Cooper's bold sales pitch for Heineken Beer is straight out of the archives of 1960's advertising. Many beer companies such as Miller High Life wanted to expand the market to include upwardly mobile households targeting the "female hostess". In fact Miller's copy suggested to "put the finest beer on your table" after all it was considered " the champagne of bottled beer" Ads appearing at this time featured colorful photos of happy gatherings with lavish speads of food, decorative iced buckets of beer and a smiling host. You can find examples of this advertising and much more vintage ads at a site called Found in My Mom's Basement. I have just found this site and had great time looking at old ads from the past.
http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/
Look under vintage beer ads for examples, on about page three.
Is it just me, or does Don Draper remind anyone of Seymour Levov from American Pastoral? To me there is something very Philip Rothian about the series, especially its views on motherhood and business.
Tilden Katz has spent ten years counseling clients on how to work with the media to position specific cases, improve their business prospects and respond during crisis situations and litigation. Coincidence? I think not!
Don't worry, it looks like a guest appearance.....
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/08/mad-mens-rich-s.html
Do you think Joan's doctor boyfriend knows about her past romantic entanglements - specifically, Roger? He did not strike me as the type to be very forgiving of past affairs, especially with a married man. I suppose they have slept together, and being a doctor, he surely knew she was no virgin. Unless she has told him she is as pure as the driven snow and is saving herself for the marriage bed. Would she do that?
It's been suggested that while we're waiting 2 weeks for a new episode we might need new topics to chat about and pass the time. I'd like to start a little posting game in that spirit.
Let's make a list of High School Year Book Clichés (best dressed, most likely to succeed, etc.) for MM characters. Who was the prom king and queen of their world? Who was the valedictorian? Who was the star jock and the cheerleader? Give the characters their titles and come up with some new categories of clichés (most likely to be arrested for tax evasion, most likely to be a starter wife, etc.) I know the creative forces on this forum can come up with some pretty funny stuff, so let's post away!
On another thread a blogger said that Don D. had told Rachel of his assumed identity. I am assuming this would have happened in Season 1, if true. Did he tell Rachel this? If so, I am surprised he would take the chance. They did not part on the best of terms and I would think he would not like knowing there was someone out there besides Pete and Cooper who knew his secret. Also, do we know if Cooper mentioned Don's identity theft to Roger?
I saw it once and don't know where it is now or how they decide who wins something. Can anybody help?
Imagine Peggy with Yves Saint Laurent as an account. YSL created their own label in 1962. Now she comes in only with designer clothes as she gets lots of perks!
Andre Courreges is the inventor of the mini skirt
Pierre Cardin was very popular then
Givenche
Pucci!!
Mary Quant
I say let's have an account with one of the fashion greats of the time and bring in more designer fashion to the show. (Not that their fashion is not fantastic already. But, the men are wearing Disigner $1,500.00 plus suits. Let the women also show off Great Designer clothes starting from Peggy. How could this play out?
Did anyone else notice how Betty broke up the chair. It was quite awkward. She pushed on it as if to see if it could be salvaged. She exerted more effort and the chair starts breaking apart, but slowly. Then she picks up the chair in pieces and takes her job elsewere as a carpenter or an artist with finished product would. Some posts have indicated this is her rant on Don. I see that and more. Can you explain her breaking of chair and her reaction to Don?
What if Don and Betty were to divorce? I could see Betty starting up some type of business... but what? She can't really model anymore. But she is educated and intellient. Ideas?
Does Jon Hamm really play poker with Jimmy Kimmel on Friday nights?
As I have mentioned before, I have not seen all of Season 1's episodes, so the characters are still unfolding for me. My question is, just how much do you think the actors knew initially about the characters they were chosen to play? Do you think Mr. Weiner had a clear picture in his mind regarding each character and how he/she would act and react as the story unfolds. For instance, did the actor portraying Sal know from the start that his character would be a closeted gay man? In the few scenes I have seen of Sal from Season 1 I did not immediately assume he was gay. Has Don's character development as major a cheat and liar come as a surprise to Jon Hamm as it has for the viewer? I guess I am asking how much did the actors know and when did they know it?
again a questions about timing, I''m a designer and noticed they show 2' square ceiling tiles not 2'x 4' they are supposed to have such attention to detail. In the 80's it was the fashion to change to 2'x 2' if client wanted to pay for it. Old buildings I've been in have 2'x 4' or no drop ceiling. Any designers out there? Maybe they started that way in the 60's????
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I had a couple of things I was wondering about. Picky details, but they claim they research so well. In one episode, we see Peggy putting on panty hose. Were they around in 62? I remember wearing them later in the 60's and I'm from San Francisco, not a remote place but I think but 65' I was wearing a panty girdle and regular stockings and a year or two later they came out
I am a little confused... how did Betty put 2 and 2 together when she saw the UTZ commercial and called Don to tell him not to come home.
Sorry if this is a rerun, but If you haven't seen this yet, check out these adorable and witty illustrations of the Mad Men characters.... You can download them as screen savers, etc.
Check out Sally's cocktail recipes menu, "What'll it be, Daddy?"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nobodyssweetheart/sets/72157606178887453/
The artist, Dyna Moe, got started after being commissioned by Rich Sommer to create a Christmas card for the cast.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nobodyssweetheart/2106689114/in/set-72157606178887453/
I'm 18 (just turned btw) anyone younger then me? Idk It's late and I'm curious.
Did anyone find that that Betty's 'ride' early Saturday morning was like none we've ever witnessed before? Her heavy breathing, sweating and crescendo leap followed by her slow, almost hypnotic return to 'reality' emblematic for the unexpressed torrent of emotion she wants to unleash all over her skanky hubby? It certainly was unlike any of the stable scene's we
witnessed Betty in previous episodes. It was a perfect opening what came next.
I just get that feeling because of the recent events. Anyone else agree?
My inquiring mind was wondering if anyone can tell me whether the "Night to Remember" episode began the day after the Jimmy Barrett party fiasco? I know when Betty got back from riding Don was still in bed, and I think he asked her jokingly if it was still Saturday. If it was the next day after she threw up in his car, wouldn't you think there would be some discussion of it - if only him asking how she was feeling? I couldn't get a sense of whether or not Betty had been stewing over Barrett's remarks for several days or if she was still shell shocked from the previous evening.
Who's betting that it's Anita at the receiving end of Peggy's wrath when we hear her shouting...."You couldn't keep your mouth shut!!"""" Strong words from our Peggy since she normally has such a flat affect. Does anyone think that she erred by doing her pro bono CYO dance flyer for Fr. Gill without checking first with Don? Recall that Fr. did say to her "ask your boss" prior to asking for her help. I was so taken aback (and thrilled) to hear Peggy raise her voice in anger that I missed the rest of the clip. I kind of hope it's worm boy Pete who's getting a verbal bitch slap but I know it's unlikely to happen at this point.
Is it me or is there some sexual tension between Peggy and the Priest. Everytime they are both on screen I feel like one of them is about to grab the other and start making out. Or is my mind just in the gutter?
Duck asked Don when he will join the country club for the second time in the last episode. It's a status symbol that makes sense for a man of Don's position. Betty fits right in. What's the hesitation? And why hasn't Don learned to play golf? Lots of business was conducted on the golf course in those days, and probably still is. What gives?
