Why be offended? I don't cheat on my husband, Don cheats but I don't let it offend me. It's all part of this meaty story we're involved in. This just shows that if you're an employee of SC your life is not your own, you belong to the company.

You give every indication of being an anti-Semite.
Maybe you would find a more sympathetic ear with William Donohue at the Catholic League.
I worked at a chain store in the late 50's and it closed for three hours on Good Friday.

I think the point of showing the SC employees working on Sunday and giving a presentation on Good Friday was to demonstrate the level of commitment the agency expected from its employees. Yes, in 1962 a lot of companies were closed on Good Friday, so asking their employees to show up on that day was an extreme measure, showing how important they viewed the American Airlines account.

I think the point of showing the SC employees working on Sunday and giving a presentation on Good Friday was to demonstrate the level of commitment the agency expected from its employees. Yes, in 1962 a lot of companies were closed on Good Friday, so asking their employees to show up on that day was an extreme measure, showing how important they viewed the American Airlines account.

Sometimes I am amazed at how little thought goes into some of these posts. Having the agency work on a holiday had NOTHING to do with religion, it was a way for the writers to let the audience know how truly important the American Airlines account was.

As a guy from Ohio I am offended that they don't have the show based in Dayton. I mean seriously, I would really identify with all the characters if they were from Ohio. This is just another example of Hollywood writers exhibiting their anti-Ohio biases. I am sick of it.

Do any of you feel the same way?

Geez, you're kidding, right? Half the show dealt with Peggy's family's observation of the Catholic liturgy, faith, and traditions (all impeccably portrayed by the way) and yet you choose to be offended because SC worked on Palm Sunday. As Bert would say "Who Cares?"

The agency did not choose the date of the meeting. American Airlines did. The whole point is that the agency executives are so morally bankrupt that they wouldn't even question a potential client's request for a meeting on an important religious day. They would do anything to get the American Airlines account. Probably the top guys at the agency are WASPs and not necessarily Catholic. Most likely Episcopalians living in CT and willing to bend virtually any rule to get an account.

Peggy started out giving the impression of a female that was going to break the mold of the stereotypical woman in a man's world, and at first i thought there'd be something to admire, but she has taken on all the not admirable characteristics of the men, ambitious at all costs, willing to play the game to get ahead, very cynical without regard of what's right or wrong but simply motivated to get ahead by any means, she was willing to sleep with draper if that's what her job duties included, she invited peter before his wedding for sex, was clueless about being pregnant and showed no emotion towards the baby and simply gave it away, she's as ruthless and cool as any of the men at sterling

doreen

i think the show exposes the hypocrisy of the times it portrays and doesn't necessarily single out Catholics, its definitely the dark side of 'leave it to beaver'

doreen

i think the show exposes the hypocrisy of the times it portrays and doesn't necessarily single out Catholics, its definitely the dark side of 'leave it to beaver'

doreen

I am sorry to see such blatant anti-Semitism on this board. As the above posters have commented, it really was all about the business ethos of Sterling Cooper.

I am offended by you, jamied. And that posters to this comment would take the time to explain or respond to you. Away, away.

You know, not everyone defines their daily life by the dictates of a religion. On the educated east coast, particularly back then, most people didn't run their life by religion. Only Catholics, who were usually, though not always, the more ethnic working classes, and Orthodox Jews. There were hardly any of these fundamentalist religions you see today (still aren't on the East Coast) and so unless you were observant Catholic, you didn't really take Good Friday off. Folks like Don and Roger and their ilk were token at best in their religion, some sort of mainstream Protestant, say episcopalian or something, not the fundamentalist religious right that talks about Jesus all the time.

I come from Connecticut, the enlightened civilized land of separation of church and state. Where reason and enlightenment rule and religion is a private spiritual matter, not a overt fanatical practice.

And please stop the ignorant anti-semetism. It's inane and outright mean. Why add that part? Just ask why people were working on Good Friday...

I should add that the WASP employers like Roger and Bert Cooper weren't anti-christian, though they were likely anti-Catholic. And indeed, they wouldn't have given their Catholic employees a day off for Good Friday unless they were in a particularly generous mood. And they wouldn't have even had a Jewish employee, let alone given him Yom Kippur off. So the show is representing what life was like if you worked for Roger and Bert.

But again, this shows why to some people, those were the good old days (usually White protestant men) and to most of the rest of us, not so much. It's usually in these examples how even the most "conservative" person today will suddenly realize that they too were discriminated against and so their regressive longing for the 50s/60s suddenly isn't so romantic as it seemed.

That said, I do long for the "old days" where religious beliefs weren't forced into polite conversations or everyone else's life...

My mother was in real estate throughout the 50s - mid-80s. Our family is as green-blooded Irish Catholic as they come and I cannot remember a Good Friday that she was not at the office.

And your anti-semetic remarks were ignorant and disgusting, Jamied. As a Catholic, YOU offend me.

GerryFromToledo
You are a hoot! That was soooo funny!

Yeah, Gerry from Toledo, right on! AND Betty Crocker, how enlightened you are!

Yes, that's me, just call me Alexis DeToqueville...;0

I'm offended that the only people of color in season 1 were easily expendable janitors.Oh wait that's right this is a period piece set in the early 60's before the civil rights movement......woah I could have had a V8.

Hi jamied! I was raised in an Irish Catholic family, I was a child during the current MM time period. I was not offended at all by the last episode. I think the members od SC had to work or face being fired. The only one we know for sure is Catholic is Peggy. If she really felt bad, she could go to confession and be absolved. Let's face it, she has bigger sins to confess!!
The reality is that some people have to work on Holy Holidays and secular Holidays. I am one of them, I am in health care. I donnot believe the writers wrote this episode to insult Catholics.

Hey jamied: Very provacative post that has incited quite a stir! I prefer to assume that you did not intend any insult or harm to anyone by your post.

I'm a fiery, high-maintenance, Irish Catholic redhead (God bless my patient Irish Catholic husband-he really is my better half!) who has learned the hard way that a thick skin is a gift from God. Perhaps this approach might work for you?

I mean this in the kindest way that it's best to carefully pick your battles--we can all be offended by someone or something if we allow ourselves to become offended. When watching the show or reading these posts, just take what you like and leave the rest. Otherwise, I suggest you have Sally Draper mix you a couple of go to hell Bloody Marys while you rig yourself up to a relaxicizer (yes, I know I'm going to straight to hell).

i beleive that the indication that some might be working on good friday could be considered a slight to some but in my experience not so much to even a devout catholic, i , being raised in a predominently catholic neighborhood in the bronx, can not remeber one good friday where a catholic oberved this most highest of holy days as those of us who are orthodox chrsitians, as i am do.. the idea of the good friday work day at the office did cause me to do a "tilt" but there are a lot of contradictions and i think part of that has to do with the conflicts that the profession brings to the setting. these individuals probably did not even realize it was good friday- they are too self abosorbed with advanceemt and those at the helm could care less!!!

I really wish people would lighten up and just enjoy this series. There is so much crap on TV and it is disheartening to see people tear into one of the finest series that we've been offered thus far in the 21st century. It was almost 50 years ago, it is not present time with present standards of behavior, whatever they are nowadays. Don't be so thinskinned.

Jamied, as a Catholic, I am offended that you entered your stupid post. I didn't grow up in New York, but I seriously doubt it was that different from the rest of the country. The fact is, almost every business closed on Good Friday either all day or they were open until noon. Church services started at 3 p.m. Everything closed - groceries, auto dealers, lawyers, etc., the only people working were the phone company, utility companies, and hospitals. Maybe hotels, too. I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s and I remember it pretty well.

I agree with Laurie B that the Catholic religion has gotten a great deal of accurate coverage in episode 204.

The Jewish Sabbath starts at sunset on Friday, so I don't think practicing Jews would have had a big issue with closing a few hours early. They didn't in the city where I lived, anyway.

Not everyone hated each other - there was a lot of cooperation among people from different religions with Jewish doctors covering for Christians on their religious holidays and vice versa. Over the past 20 years, I have seen the same courtesy extended to Hindi and Islamic health care professionals (and other occupations, but I work in health care and know it best).

Sorry, I forgot one point I wanted to make - the American Airlines ad campaign was in response to their airliner crashing, wasn't it? So, it would have required overtime and special attention, regardless of which holiday was occurring.

Looks like jamied is just a hit and run offender. Not really interested in the show at all, just in spreading bigotry and predjudice and then off to another forum to poison it too. You dignify him/her with your responses. To defend jamied in the name of freedom of speech minimizes the offense.
Already the post is among the "most popular" on this forum. We're all guilty of drawing attention to it but it's the wrong kind of attention. Can we stop giving this hateful post any more air time?

Posters, I agree this topic has some anti-semitic sentiment to it. I'm not immediately inclined to remove it, as you picked up on that fact and it stirred a meaningful discussion.

If anyone is offended by it, let me know and I'll take it down.

cmneuman@amctv.com

Thanks for your diligence.

why don't people just lighten up
this discussion could get nasty and all of us are inclined to defend our religious beliefs
just enjoy the show and understand that yes, the question could arise regarding working on good friday-- it's a valid one
BUT DO NOT REMOVE THE DISCUSSION THAT WOULD IMPLY SUBJECTIVITY ON THE PART OF AMC AND THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT

I agree that it shouldn't be removed, but should be left BECAUSE it's such obvious evidence of how STUPID people can be. That is the beauty of free speech. If someone wants to display their anti-semitism "proudly," then they can expect to incur the ridicule and humilation that comes from being a less enlightened person. The question of why they didn't work on Good Friday is a valid one, the idea that its a Jewish conspiracy is not--not all "ideas" are equal. This isn't cheesy corrupt FOX news giving equal air time to the "Green Sky Society" as if the idea that the sky is green is one worth pursuing (as someone here pointed out on another thread). Some ideas really are worth ridiculing...even if someone has the "right" to say them. Indeed, if you agree with this poster, then perhaps it's you that needs to lighten up if you can't take someone ridiculing a racist opinion you share.

But I don't think taking it down would show AMC's subjectivity--it's not "subjective" in its anti-semitism, it's pretty blatant and gratuitous. And it's not the role of AMC to "support" the right of a dolt to say anti-semitic things on their web site.

Actually, nothing in your post shows that you agree with the poster, so I'll retract that--but surely you could see how us ridiculing him is both the appropriate response and for our entertainment, and NOT being able to take the criticism is the one who needs to lighten up?

As an Irish Catholic myself, I'm offended that Peggy isn't a Jew and a synagogue wasn't used vs. a Catholic church. Just sayin'.

Cecil and Delliegirl,

Been away for a few days, thanks for notes. I am a bit of smart ass, but only when there are knuckleheads around!

Gerry from...