Also I tried to add (technical difficulties), what was Bobbie's comment to Jimmie "we both know you should have behaved yourself last night", when she wasn't even with him? Also I noticed how Ken did refer to Don as Mr. Draper in front of Joan & the new girl but then said "Good morning Don" in front of them, when he came in. Also the Dr. does confirm to Peggy in a flashback that she did have a baby.

Sassy, Don shouldn't have been suprised to see Peggy, if you remember, he opened his "little black book" and called her in the scene before.

There is something more to Ken. He has to be connected to someone at the top at SC. I've wondered that since the episode about his paycheck.

Sassy--If you remember, Bobbie called Don from Sardi's and in the background, there was a whole group of men hulked together and she said, "nobody's paying any attention to me" or something like that. I assume those were the other comedians like Buddy Hackett and whomever else they were celebrating Jimmy's TV show with. And then at dinner she told Don that Jimmy got in a fight or something with Buddy Hackett and we assume she didn't side with Jimmy and stayed after he stormed off in a huff. THAT's what she meant by he should have behaved...he shouldn't have been his usual drunk obnoxious self.

I don't know what the DUI laws in New York were like in the '60s, but the policeman told Don that "bail" (not the fine) would be $150. It struck me oddly; these days, you wouldn't be released on a DUI charge until the next morning--after an arrainment and a promise to appear later. Furthermore, Bobbi would be hit with a public intoxication and she also would be held until the morning.

Maybe someone with experience with NY laws of the period could comment.

Well, I don't know about NY laws in the 60s. However, I can tell you that as recently as the late 70s and early 80s, if a cop pulled you over and you were intoxicated .... unless you were falling down drunk and had wiped out a few trees and lamposts along the way, they basically gave you a warning and told you to be careful driving home. Tough drunk-driving laws are fairly new.

Even if an accident occurred, the mindset was, "Well, it's not like he meant to hurt anyone. He was drunk."

I remember when I was about seven years old. A man was drunk and tried to shoot an apple off his child's head. He killed the child instead. He wasn't even charged, I don't believe. Everyone felt sorry for him.

It was a different world. I mean, look at the scene with Don and the police officer. Yes, the police officer was angry, but there was Don, sitting in the station ( not a jail cell ) while the office served him a cup of coffee.

I'm pretty sure that the officer said at the beginning that he was going to have to "fine" him $150.00. Maybe he referred to it as "bail" later on.

Sixties Child: Yes, I think there definitely is something more to Ken, and he is connected to at least one higher-up at SC--namely Roger. If you saw Episode 4, there was strong evidence there that Ken is pimping for Roger--remember Roger's extreme interest in Vickie the call girl and Ken's rejoinder, "I can get you her number; I've got lots of numbers?" Also in Season 1 he was seen hosting the out of towners from the Belle Jolie account and seemed to be asking them in coded language if they wanted female company. That, and the fact that Roger was VERY quick to tell Harry that "nobody around here makes that" ($310, (Harry's upped ante on Ken's $300) makes me think that, yes, there's a very strong liklihood Ken and Roger are in cahoots.

As regards the gloves question:

My mother was in her prime in the Mad Men time period.

Although she was closer to working class than priviledged class, neither she nor her friends would even think of going out in the evening without a nice dress and gloves that reached halfway up the arm.

Similar to my father, who would not think of leaving the house without wearing a shirt, tie, and hat at a minimum.

Well, trousers too of course, but you get the idea. (:

RE: the gloves question: I thought Peggy was a bit overdressed for the occasion, even given the time period. However, people dressed up a lot more back then. It was, after all, a work related situation (rescuing the boss) and involved a client and a legal issue, so she probably wanted to appear as professional and respectful as possible to ensure that Don appeared in the best possible light. It may have been a career move on her part. It happened in the middle of the night, so she was probably in bed when he called, so by putting on her professional garb (not to mention borrowing a car and scraping together the money) she was drawing attention to the fact that she had gone to a lot of trouble to do him a favor.

Re DUI: this example is Connecticut, not NY state and granted, but one time in the mid-60s, my father and mother were three sheets to the wind and got stopped on the Merritt Parkway coming home late at night. The cop knew my father and said, "you shouldn't be driving in this condition." He had my mother, who was in marginally better condition than my father, switch places with my father drive the rest of the way home.

THAT is a scary story!

Don knew the fine was 150. His mention of paying 60 now and sending the other 500 tomorrow was a veiled intimation of a bribe. Easily deniable, however.

Yes, white gloves! My brothers weren't alloewd to come to the dinner table without a tie in those days! I never saw my mother in pants before 1970. It didn't matter wahat your class was. Our cleaning lady (progressively referred to as "helper" by my mother) wore a dress and gloves to work and changed into a house-coaty kind of thing to work in.

People dressed for everything in the early 60's. A proper women did not go out without her hat, gloves, girdle, etc. My grandmother (who was 50 in 1960) would not go across the street to the mailbox unless she had on a nice dress and high heels. Into her 80's she was always up and dressed nice by 7am, including high heels (which got shorter as she got older). She refused to wear pants in public until the early 70's. So I think Peggy was dressed correctly for the time.

I was a career girl in Pennsylvania; had just gotten married in 1959 and continued working. I walked into the apartment every day after work and started dinner in my high heels. Yes, Peggy was appropriately dressed for the occasion. We wore gloves every day to work and also hats to professional meetings. And we managed all this glamour without central air conditioning! How did we do it???

Re the interaction with the cop, I too thought of a bribe when Don responded so quickly with the offer. And I was almost surprised when the cop didn't take him up on it!

It could have been a bribe--but for what?
No one was under arrrest.
The cops in Nassau County didn't get on their high horse about DWI--even when I was in high school there in the 1970s.
Draper could have misspoke himself.
We'll never know (at least if I were writing the episode).

Betty Crocker:
I'm from Connecticut, too. "Three sheets to the wind!" One of my parents' expressions -- it cracked me up.

Your father must have loved sailing...or been in the Navy!

Gail / Betty Crocker: Lots of talk about the Merritt Parkway. What is it? Where does it go? I have an impression that that's where you're driving if you're driving out to your wealthy fiance's house in the Dudley Moore movie "Arthur". Am I close?

BTW, Here's the Episode 5 recap:

http://www.unboundedition.com/content/view/7728/50/

My brother got hit on his bicycle in the park in the early 70's. He was leaning against another car talking to his friend and a drunk driver drove by a little too close and threw him up and over the car. My parents had to threatened the drunk driver with a lawsuit just to get him to buy my brother a new bike! Today my brother would have owned the drunk driver's house!!

demolino: The cop tells Don that he has the right to detain him for the night if he doesn't pay the full fine.

wecamp: Loved the story about your grandmother. My mother was in her late thirties at this time and always dressed up with hat, gloves, girdle, etc. for all occasions. Then she discovered those horrid poly pant suits in the 70s and that was that!

LaurieB: The Merritt Parkway is a beautiful, scenic highway that runs through Fairfield County, in southwestern Connecticut. It's one of the wealthiest counties in the country; Greenwich, Darien, Westport, New Canaan and other wealthy towns are in Fairfield County. They're considered "bedroom" communities of New York City, and many Don Draper-types have lived there.

I'm from West Hartford, a suburb of Hartford, CT which is further north, in central Connecticut.

It's funny how the whole drunk driving thing has changed over the last 40 years. I remember lots of people getting really drunk for New Year's Eve and driving home. How else did you get home? A taxi was an expense that no one would even consider! Not to mention no one would ever consider the thought of a designated driver! Who wants to stand around watching others get drunk?

All I know is I got the heebie-jeebies when I saw that Nassau County police logo on that cop's uniform. Disturbing flashback.

I got pulled over 1973-ish driving home with 5 intoxicated teenagers in my parent's Country Squire. The cop followed me home and then made a pass at me. That's when I learned what Peggy learned this episode.

I made mental note of how Peggy's police station entrance was shot. Her arrival began with the camera revealing only those 'pretty little ankles' Joan recommended Peggy show off.

I don't recall having ever seen them before and certainly did not recognize her until the camera panned to her face!