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Who wrote this tripe? It's bad Mickey Spillane pulp fiction. Aren't we past portraying the sexual revolution
of the '60s with the mysticism of Madison Avenue?
The real story of advertising is how the ad agency Doyle Dane Bernbach put Volkswagen on the marketing map in the '60s. Let's take testosterone out one TV drama and put in some real acting and story telling closer to truth. Especially to a new generation which believes perception to be truth. I hate cliches
advertised as truth. And MADMEN perpetuates the
worst: screw everyone you can.

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knight

I see that you've skipped your anger management classes.

If you don't like Mad Men, don't bother us on the boards with your juvenile tirades. Don't watch the program. Nobody's holding a gun to your head. Stick with realiity shows, which may be more suited to your tastes.

Angry posts will get you booted off this web site faster than __it through a goose.

Don't believe it? Keep on your current tangent.
I don't make the rules -- or enforce them. But there is someone who views all the posts on this web site. And he will take care of you shortly.

Unless you worked on Mad Ave. in the 60's you're an outside looking in. Some of us here lived the Mad Men life at the time. And if you're an outsider looking in -- you only have a stereotypical and uninformed view of the world of advertising at that time.

I worked at Doyle Dane. Yes, they broke through the clutter of mundane ads. They were brilliant. But they were only the first. And there were agencies that were even better than DDB during the 60's

Maybe you should start seeing a shrink like Betty Draper does in the program.

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Hey, let's not try and censor porsters because they have a different opinion. Not right. Knight has just as much right as anyone else to express his/her point of view. Besides, a little controversy is good once in awhile. Getting personal isn't nice in the 60's or present day.

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jamblermm

Different opinions are fine. Angry opinionated, know-nothing posters only anger others here. They're like the proverbial 'turd in the punch bowl.' They spoil it for everybody.

Angry posters do get censored here. Some of them even get booted off the board. There are civilized ways of expressing oneself. knight crossed that boundary.

This site is not a chatroom where everybody craps all over each other or gets downright nasty about other people's views.

If this guy crashed a party I was at, I'd toss him out the window.

If you feel comfortable with knight's type, by all means answer their postings -- while they're still around.

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I agree with wryter1...if people aren't happy with the show, they shouldn't watch it. It's a television show. It's not meant to be 100% perfect or accurate. It's a piece of fiction. Anybody who is looking for it to mirror real life has lost his or her own sense of reality. Sorry, but let's remember that the first purpose of any tv drama or comedy is to entertain. That's what Mad Men does. I don't like certain tv shows, so I don't watch them. I do like Mad Men because I find the story line to be riveting. Perhaps "knight" should find a different show on a different network that appeals to his or her senses.

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I have to agree with wryter1 as well. Why take the time to come here and post if you don't like the show? I couldn't be bothered, frankly. I love MM and come here to read about how others perceive it. It's fascinating to me. I can't imagine taking any time out of my day to post about a show I don't like. Enough already.

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....LOL......heh..........I think that guy is back, what was his name, MadisonAvenue, or something?............be patient, "The Flavor of Love" and "American Idol" are coming back soon!!!

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Yes! I think you're right - MadisonAvenue might be back! Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy night

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dd et al

It won't be a bumpy ride for long, they'll get their butt kicked off the forum in due time.

It's too bad they have such a sad life -- and then have to vent their anger here.

Whether it's MadisonAvenue, PeggySue, knight -- or anybody with an anger management problem, we're better off without them.

There are so many intelligent and insightful people on this forum. So, if we can keep weeding out the chaff from the wheat, we'll have a nice harvest of interesting forum talk.

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No, no, no - PeggySue is cool. Please don't stick her in the mad mix of crazies

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BTW - MadisonAvenue, and whatever other aliases he may use, employs a very distinctive and recognizable writing style (other than the venom spewed :>).

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I don't watch Mad Men. But while watching other programming on AMC, such as actual movies, it's very aggravating have Mad Men popups constantly wipe out 1/4 of the screen. This is inconsiderate and selfish on AMC's part, and the morons who insist on this tactic, which of course doesn't work and just makes makes people mad, on AMC and all the other channels, ought to be fired. It's bad enough that AMC continually advertises with the continual Mad Men advertisement in the lower left of the screen. I guess you just don't care a damn about your customers who enjoy actual movies. It's bad enough having spam on computers, but TV? Come on. Probably your moronic advertisement tactics will insure I and 1,000s of others won'tt watch Mad Men. If you weren't trying to shove it down your customers throats, maybe more people would watch it.

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mirrorguy

Your comments are valid. We discussed this on another thread, which you can find somewhere about a week or so ago.

It is maddening what they do today. And the only program I watch on AMC is Mad Men -- because I used to be one. Otherwise, I never watch their channel.

Mad Men may or may not be to your liking. But, you should try an episode or two just to find out.

Perhaps, in the future, AMC will take a hint about their crass way of self promoting their programs.

And what would actually work better than all our complaints we've lodged about their advertising practice on this forum, would be to write a letter to AMC's ad and/or program director.

They're most likely not going to find out about our discontent by reading these boards. They probably don't bother to check them.

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MirrorGuy -- This is a message board for people who enjoy MAD MEN. If you have a problem with something AMC is doing, then e-mail them directly. I'm sure there is contact information on their main website, www.amctv.com. I understand your displeasure, but expressing it to a bunch of MAD MEN fans isn't going to help fix the problem that you see. It's been my experience that if you complain to the main website, they at least take your complaint under advisement. Thank you.

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knight - what exactly is so inaccurate about Mad Men and its portrayal of the ad industry? Are you a 60's ad man with first hand experience I was at Benton & Bowles in the 60's and my take is that the agency part of the story is pretty accurate although ad agencies didn't have the patent on bad behavior. Besides, the sexual revolution hasn't even happened yet -- let's see how it plays out in this. If you have legitimate gripes, why don't you itemize them for us -- tell us your "truth." Otherwise, say goodnight Gracie.

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rememberitwell

Nice ta meet ya. I was a Mad Man in the 60's too. On the creative side.

Were you a commuter -- or a city dweller?

Verrrrry Interrrresssting!

Good night Dan. Good night Dick.

Gotta catch the 6:07.

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I think PeggySue is gone - all of PS postings have been removed from discussions. I noticed it in the "Paul's pot party" discussion.

Don't know about MadisonAvenue.

I do agree with wryter1, too. I don't really understand the vitriolic tone/condemnation from a poster who takes the time and energy on something they obviously hate. Why bother?

Is their post really about having a discussion, posting an opinion or lobbing an incendiary bomb into the forum so they have an opportunity to attack others, and put them on the defensive? For what? Enjoying the series? I guess that IS a crime!

Again, this is fiction, drama and entertainment. Not a documentary; Not a reenactment of an actual person/persons life story being told. If I wanted straight fact and no dramatic interpretation, I would watch a documentary on advertising. Or better yet, read several books on the advertising world.

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And as far as MadMen perpetuating the "screw everyone you can" as a truth - I guess you missed the movies, "Wall Street", "Network" , "Glengarry Glen Ross", "Sweet Smell of Success" or any number of dramatic films, books, and plays that touch on this same theme.

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Or were you speaking of the sexual content of MadMen? If I missed that viewpoint, I apologize.

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jamm54, I also have noticed PeggySue's absence. Since she won her "Post of the Week" mug she seems to have vanished. I wasn't wild about some of her posts, but she did have some interesting viewpoints now and then. I don't really think her posts were vicious enough to get her booted. I'm not saying I actually miss her, just that I wouldn't really group her posts with those of the others mentioned here that were so juvenile and nasty and deserved to be kicked off the forum. JMHO

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I hate to even comment here, but could we now ignore knight and let him talk to himself until he's blue in the face and get bored with himself and git!

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Right on, Nora.

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That's weird that they took out Peggy Sue's posts--though he/she (I think she was a woman) was a screamer type and clearly had a political agenda, when she wasn't ranting, her posts were substantial/interesting. But maybe she just couldn't tone it down.

I just started posting here when that MadisonAvenue guy was ranting on every thread about how awful Mad Men is, but this does sound very similar in style if I recall.

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Sorry folks, actually let myself get "hot under the collar" and took the bait, rather than following my own advice - ignore it. Will do!

scfan: I think PeggySue was yanked, otherwise all of the former posts would not be gone now. You're right, some of her/his facts were interesting. I think it was more because s/he insisted on attacking others on the posts and the discussions would be diverted off into another endless PeggySue vs Other Poster fight. No s/he wasn't vicious, but s/he constantly was taking the focus off the discussion at hand to focus on justifying their opinion/comment to PeggySue specifically.

So, I will refrain from taking the "bait" - it's just not worth it, and takes all of the enjoyment out of these discussions. So if we have a new attacker on the forum, well I'll stay away from their discussions. Sorry for the lapse, folks.

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And I don't want to end up like PeggySue! Ouch! I'd cry if I couldn't contribute to the discussions once in a while......see you all after the show (it's 1140am Seattle time).

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Winning the coffee mug must've emboldened the combative PeggySue beyond the bounds of this forum. I do wish her previous posts didn't simply vanish, however, 'cause it impairs the flow of the the threads she posted to prior to her banishment.

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I would like to set some things straight -- PeggySue left of her own accord, and asked that I remove her postings. Yes, I will notify people if I feel others are being attacked or made to feel uncomfortable by other postings. Merely expressing an opinion as to whether or not you like the show will not get you booted. I ask, as always, that everyone remain civil and remember we are all here for one reason: to talk about Mad Men, whether we love it or otherwise.

Thanks.

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Thanks for the clarification, Clayton. Sorry I made that assumption.

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Just curious why Peggy Sue who was such an "authority" on Mad Men just decide to leave and take all her postings with her? She always came across as knowing everything there was to know about the show. I always felt "put in my place " by her. I tried to engage her by asking her opinion on a comment I made , not successful . Hate to say it but glad she's gone , however it happened. It gives some of the rest of us a chance to express our opinions. I have to say , though , many people are not playing very nice right now on this particular thread.Madman called me out at the beginning of the season. I was tired and sleepy, and didn't elaborate greatly on my viewpoints. Just pointed out a few observations. I was named specifically in one of his posts and told that I was a "little nothing like the girls in the office " . I can't tell you how that made me feel. By the time we watch the show and start trying to navigate all the different postings it gets to be quite late. Sometimes all one wants to do is say a few comments about the show that evening and go back fresh in the morning. I must admit I was one who wasn't very happy with the way this season started, but have fallen for it all over again.As Don said, "We have the bricks but not the building". YET. Patience, ground work is being laid. We never know who is who on the board , though, do we?

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This series does have a weird effect on me. I can watch the same episode several times, and come away feeling differently EACH TIME. I don't know why that is. It plays like a fantastic puzzle/mystery to be solved, and I love reading everyone's "theory".

I know it's maddening for some of the posters that get tired of all the "analyses" going on, but I know, for me, I CAN'T HELP MYSELF!

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Does anyone know who wrote the line " Who's That Behind Those Foster Grants"?

It was written in the 60's and put FG Sunglasses on the map with stars like Peter Sellers, Mia Farrow and Raquel Welch, who is now doing TV commercials for FG.

Love to know...its an iconic brand and signiture line.