Episode 1 - Open Thread
Talk about Episode 1, "For Those Who Think Young".
My strongest impression after watching the season premiere was what a bittersweet title "For Those Who Think Young" is. Don is back, and for the most part he's the same Don we all cherished in Season 1. Or is he? He's getting older -- his doctor his scolding him about his health; the carefree way he used to light a cigarette is now tainted with the knowledge that it is, in fact killing him (thank goodness he's ignoring that piece of information!). The world has changed for Don, and you get the impression that he really doesn't want it to.
Take the conversation Don has with Roger about the young generation. Roger (the elder) is trying to convince Don that younger ad-men might have something useful to offer, but Don is bucking at the notion that they have anything to offer? Why? In my opinion it's because to admit that the young are useful is to accept that you are no longer "the young." Don has entered into the ranks of "the old" and he hates it.
It's not just his health and his profession that has taken some wear and tear, it's also his sexual drive. Betty assaults him with an intensely sexual outfit and he can't perform. After attempting to shift the Mohawk Airlines advertising with sexuality, he thinks better of it and opts for sentimentality. Is that the same Don we all know and love?
Of course it is -- but he's living in a different world now, and he doesn't seem to pleased about it. Betty on the other hand seems to be coming into her own; so has Roger in his own way. It's fascinating to see how the different characters have adapted to a changing landscape. I guess that's the appeal of starting a season two years later as opposed to focusing on plot points. You really get a sense of character development. But I still want to know what happened to Peggy's baby!
What did you guys think of the season premiere?
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Perfect description - you hit every point I wanted to make - Betty really feeling her oats - I loved it when she was talking to her friend - acting all that -
Great review! I see some future- Sal and wife????
New ad team = the two guys. Pete not able to have a baby. Ready for more!
I don't see Don "shrinking" back to sentiment -- and remember, sentiment doesn't mean sentimentality -- but returning purposefully to it. Sentiment has always been the driving force for him. Remember Lucky Strike and Kodak? Home runs, both based on feelings. His foray into a "sex sells" mentality was a false step, and now he is back.
Now a mundane question: I am confused as to Don's place in the agency. I thought he had been promoted to partner, and Duck was to be creative director. Now Don is creative director again. Wasn't Pete head of Account Services? Did Don get demoted upon Roger's return? Perhaps he has more to fight for than we think.
Pete never got Account Services O don't think - he tried to bribe Don and it backfired on him
As I said in another post, loved the premiere. It remained consistent with last season. No major cast or set changes. Great show.
So what is up with Sal? I thought Don's new secretary had a crush on him and I thought they would "hook" up (for appearances only though).
I still suspect that Betty will have an affair, especially since Don is having some problems in the "husbandly duties" arena LOL.
All in all, great premiere. Well worth the long wait since last season!
Loved it Loved it Loved it. I was so afraid it would have the "sophomore slump".but it was fantastic! I thought Betty was going to have to do a little humpedy-bumpedy in the back seat of her car with the wrecker/auto repair guy---since she was $6 short on the money for the repair, but I guess just her eye-batting and suggestive smiling was enough to get the guy to accept her barter! Just another example of M. Weiner's setting us up to expect one thing and then...Nope..."Gotcha"! I can't express how great it is to have our wonderful MM back on Sunday nights. And, replays right after (I assume) every episode? Then, another replay later in the week each time. As I've noted before, it takes me at least 2 viewings to absorb the rich textures of each episode! :-}
Great first show! Don was placed on reserpine for high blood pressure. That early hypertension drug caused a lot of impotence. He probably doesn't know that it is the drug. Betty is spectacular! So glad to have the whole crew back. The attention to detail is amazing.
Betty sure seemed "perky". Think she's hitting her prime (30's) where she knows she's not a "kid" anymore, and certainly doesn't want to be treated like one by her husband or anyone else. She acted more commanding in the hotel room ordering room service, and wowee, the towtruck driver?!!!
The whole impotence thing with Don depressed me. God, he's only 36 and already his body is going under.....jeez, that's sad. I felt old just watching him. Of course, the blood pressure med plays a part which he took at the office before his evening with Betty.
You know that he was mailing that book (Meditations on an Emergency) to Rachael. There was a sad wistfulness to that act, like meditating on the past with longing and regret. As if Don's youth has slipped away. But he is rigid. Looks like Don's going to be eating, more than anything. Look for the belly - food's going to take the place of sex!.
Maybe that's why Roger lasted longer in the sexapades than Don, he just knew how to have fun.
Think Joan is going to marry the doctor? She wasn't exactly dewy-eyed about him or playful the way she was with Roger. She acted like a robot working her way to the finish line. Has Joan toned down her walk?
Oh well, rather a subdued episode. We all knew Pete wouldn't be romantic (a dime store box of chocolates?). Sal took a wife?! That was even sadder than Don's impotence. Is Don's new secretary, Lois, the switchboard operator from last season who had a crush on Sal? I guess Don and Duck don't like each other.
Of course, I forget that in that era from your 20's on you were an "adult", and everyone acts weary and older for this second season.
SoFiaKate: I'm confused too. I thought Don was a partner (but he did only ask for one year with option to renew) too. Now he's back to being Creative Director?
Is Duck Phillips head of Account Management or Account Services?
Anyone know the name of the music played by the harpist in the hotel lobby while Don is waiting for his wife?
It is driving me nuts.
Sounded similar to Scheherazade by Rimsky-Korsakov. It was haunting!
I feel let down by the season premiere. I was expecting more and it was rather boring..I fell asleep. I think the woman Sal was with was a girlfriend, not a wife. It was Valentine's Day and maybe she was cooking him dinner. I also think he is sending the book to Midge. She was the one who was into poetry. They went to the coffee shop to hear poetry, remember? I can't see Rachel enjoying a book about poetry. Maybe a book on how to beat your man into submission? But Rachel reading poetry and being the warm fuzzy type..not. If Trudy doesn't get pregnant soon, she is going to burst into flames. I can see her going postal here soon. And Betty with her new floozy attitude. It was like watching Barney doing a porn flick...eeewwww. Creepy. :o(
I had mentioned in another thread that I thought Peggy was being really snarky towards Don's new secretary but then I thought about it and Peggy has been snarky to everyone since she got her new position. Remember last season when they were doing that radio ad for that "device" to help woman slim down? She was really a jerk towards the actress, making the woman cry. (She also acted snotty to the truck driver that she went on a date with.) And now she did it again to Lois. I hope someone there will take her down a notch and soon. I used to like her character but I'm seeing that her looks do not match her personality (the doe in the headlight look).
Re Don's impotence: his doctor did not tell him that inability to achieve and maintain an erection is a side effect of the meds he was prescribed for hypertension. The meds are totally accurate for this time period (Respertine and phenobarbitol), neither of which is given today.
I think it's unfair of the writers not to reveal this fact to the audience. If they start going all psychological (e.g., it's Betty, it's not Rachel, etc) without explaining the physical reality of the medications' side effects, the show will loose much credibility with me and others in the medical profession.
After such a strong first season, with virtually every episode so well-written and acted that I forgot this was TV, I found the first episode of the second season of Mad Men a disappointment. I can understand how the writers probably felt they needed to introduce the characters to new viewers (and reintroduce to season 1 fans), but they just didn't spend long enough on any one character. They mostly felt like caricatures, and the episode itself felt rushed. By the end of the show I felt irritated rather than intrigued--and the poetry felt forced (unlike all the Fountainhead references from the last season). But I'm giving Mad Men the benefit of the doubt. One mediocre episode does not a sophomore slump make.
Where is Mr. Fountainhead Bert, anyway?
Thank you vintageXer!! You nailed it. The episode did feel like the cast was a bunch of caricatures and was the biggest disappointment. The Season 2 premiere will go down as my least favorite episode of all. Don't even get me started with the stupid book and poetry. Don going beatnik is NOT what I wanted to see. You are being kind by giving it a mediocre rating. I placed it with Fonzie's "Jumping the Shark" episode on Happy Days. Once shows start doing this, they are doomed for cancelation. Are MM writers losing their touch? Will season 2 be the "jumping the shark" year for MM?
I loved the new eppy, but they are making us wait on Peggy's bastard child. She sure was in denial.
Regarding Peggy and Don's new Sec. I think she was just teaching her the lesson Joan taught her last year ("You shouldn't have told me that").
JMO.
We can see that Peggy is tired of being Goody Two Shoes.
I think that the writers assumed that being an adult audience, that the assumption of the Blood Pressure Med's side effect would be understood. But could it also be his conflicted mind with Betty?
I loved Sal on the Valentine's date, soaking up Jackie O's every word.
Mark my words, Pete's wife will NOT be able to conceive; Betty's boy will come back up. I think she up him up for adoption.
At the end of last night's show, I must admit that I was a little disappointed because it didn't seem to be plot driven. But as I thought about it, life is often not plot driven. We are all incrementally defined by the small day-to-day moments in our lives. I think the purpose of last night's show was to reintroduce the characters and show they have evolved over the last two years. I trust that we will see more plot driven episodes.
I thought the use of Jacqueline Kennedy's tour of the White House was an interesting way to tie many of the characters together. The Kennedy's contrived "Camelot" relationship seems to mirror many of the relationships in the show. Also, we all know what tragedy lies ahead for Mrs. Kennedy. Her appearance seems to cue us into the fact that the characters are about to face huge cultural changes—many of which will be brought on by popular culture driven by advertising.
It was not quite as good as I expected. No big surpises. I do want some more info on Sal's girlfriend/wife. Also want some more flashbacks to what happened with Peggy's baby and how Joan met her boyfriend. She does not seem to thrilled with him. Oh well, she can always have something on the side later! Looking forward to more eposides and more surprises. Don seemed very depressed this episode, he was not looking good at all. Betty, on the other hand, looked fabulous! I see an affair in her future too.
I was disappointed as well. Especially after all the hype about season 2. Alas I am glad its back. But really we should believe that Don has gone from two mistresses, and a wife, to now being impotent. It hasn't been that long. I agree too that Pete's wife will never get preg, and she shouldn't. Pete shouldn't get to be a father. I really want to know what happened to Peggy's child. I too think she was just teaching the new secretary a lesson. I
It was interesting how we got brief updates on everyone during the "White House Tour" ~ which we saw via 16mm in history class in the early 1970's. (It really did air on Valentine's Day.) Everyone would be watching, there were only 3 channels. It was perfect, showing off Camelot...much like Mad Men and what they are selling...deep down, it wasn't as it appeared.
(Old Topic) Have they ever confirmed that the baby belonged to Pete? Remember the delivery driver from back home that went to dinner with Peggy. She was quite mean to him...did she run away to New York to "start over"? I'm missed that marathon. I remember when she was on the phone with her mother, she didn't want to meet with him.
I'm looking forward to "Sex and the Single Girl" - Helen Gurley Brown...it was published in 1962. The best sellers list was great that year! The space race and the Cuban crisis.
After reading all the comments and disappointment, it makes me wonder if the reason for this episode being so unfulfilling is because of WHEN the series was renewed for a second season. Wasn't it this year? In February/March? Normally, they probably would have started the writing last year, you'd think (but what do I know about tv scriptwriting - nothing).
Maybe the creators didn't expect it because AMC took their time deciding, so even though Matt Weiner has the whole series/event sequence/timeline mapped out, no scripts had been written. This could be catch-up? I don't know. I just didn't like it except for the very last scene.
I know the title of the episode it supposed to reflect the Pepsi slogan "For Those Who Think Young".
It really should've been called "Thinking Old, Feeling Really, Really, Really ANCIENT".
PEGGY: well, try being the only woman copywriter/peer hanging around a bunch men for 8-10 hours a day (plus the mostly male clientele), and see what would happen to your personality. You'd have to develop the hide of a rhinoceros to take it - the subtle put downs, sexual innuendos or blatant sex jokes. Peggy doesn't even have a female peer at that level to talk to.
Peggy's becoming a "man" to deal with the work atmosphere. Otherwise, they'd fry her so bad she wouldn't get two words of copy out for a client or know her own name. She's in the "game", has to compete, has to toughen up to take it.
I loved the first episode and trust the writers to let it unfold as they choose. They sure did OK last year! Looks like Sal and Lois are now married -- and in preview of episode two it appears Lois may be wearing maternity clothes? Can't help but wonder what may unfold with Sal and the young new creative team (if they're hired?)...since they appear to be "out." Since (per Mr. Weiner) Peter and wife are trying to have a baby...wonder if Peggy will ultimately reassure Peter that it isn't him? No one knows yet where Peggy's baby went...but I wouldn't be surprised if he's tucked away safely with another family member? Can't wait 'til next week!
I do not believe the girl in the red dress sitting next to Sal on the couch while they viewed Jackie's Tour of the White House was Lois. It was a totally different woman.
Sal's gal on the sofa wasn't Lois, the switchboard operator. Lois is now Don Draper's secretary - the one Peggy grilled like a Nazi interrogator.
scfan, read your first comment about Betty - what a hoot.
If Betty's gives it up for only $6 to a towtruck driver, her career path as a "call girl" (which I thought usually meant highend clientele, not blue collar) isn't going to garner much in the way of profits. That wouldn't supplement the weekly grocery bill by much! She better consult her model friend, Juanita, about a better business plan!
It could be a tough night if she's going to work the arterial!
The girl with Sal was someone new. Hope we find out more.
Wasn't it creepy the way Betty dealt with the car mechanic? Maybe Betty used her charms to get things from men when she lived single with friend Juanita - and Betty feel powerful when she does it, even if it's only a 6 dollar fanbelt. Pitiful, really.
Another ananchronism... Does anyone find it inaccurate that Roger lived thru 2 heart attacks? Especially since it would have been quite some time before the paramedics arrived? In 1960-- didn't virtually everyone die from them? I remember my parents making such references in the 60s. I'm sure someone here can clarify.
And while I'm nitpicking... there's is no way that Betty coulda been wearing that black corset thing under a pale pink dress without it showing. (I would kill to own that dress!)
You are so right, JAMM54, about Betty and her paltry take (if she had "serviced" the wrecker guy!) I guess she was going to start out small and see if she could work her way up to the rich sugar daddies Juanita had as clients! LOL OOOhh boy...Betty and Juanita's Executive Escort Service! Weeeeee....but she will definitely have to get some better "working outfits", that lingerie she tried to seduce Don with was kinda dowdy..can't wait to see if she does end up meeting that old grubby wrecker man someplace...The "No Tell Motel"? (remember Robert Morse in "Guide for the Married Man"?)
It was a mild letdown, I must admit. But the bar has been set sooo high! Last season, every episode was a minor masterpiece. I'm giving Weiner the benefit of the doubt, and saying the show's going to pick back up to its former level. Jumping the Shark is a little premature, IMO. Don is feeling a little old and out of sorts. My feeling is he will be back with a vengeance. Sal's "girlfriend" was a dead ringer for Jackie K, hilarious!...and Sal asking "Where's her husband?"...LOL...Pete's wife may do something drastic. What, I don't know. Don't care much for the Duck Phillips character.
Keep the faith, Madfans!
scfan, yeah, Betty's playing with fire. She needs to go to the movies and see "BUtterfield 8" again or check out two 1962 movies "Walk on the Wild Side" and Kubrick's "Lolita" for seduction/femme fatale tips. LOL.
I think Betty's on the naive side and doesn't really have the emotional shut-off valve to compartmentalize an affair without having it blow up on her. Something Don was pretty skilled at until Rachael.
Betty was being pretty creepy with the towtruck driver, bocaratonfan, I agree. I got the impression that this was a "testing - one toe in the water" thing for Betty to see if she'd get a response; what it feels like; to see if her charm, sexuality has any power. It obviously ain't working on Don (i.e. the hotel).
She's probably going to take baby steps all season, trying stuff out with strange men (maybe not sex) until she runs into a whacko, like the Boston Strangler! Oh, sorry, she's in New York. I feel very sorry for her.
Betty, Betty, Betty........the towtruck driver over Don?!!!!!
It wasn't the most jaw dropping episode I've seen, but there were plenty of good things in it. This whole episode seemed to have an undercurrent of eating: the sandwiches in the conference room, the little girl who stopped eating lunch and saved her dimes, Betty changing her order for room service over and over. What is the meaning? Appetites change?
Peggy is getting tougher and more confident- you don't see her shaken as much as she was at first. The only exception is where Pete asks her if she wants to have kids, and you can read her face for an instant: "I HAD YOURS!". (What a great actress, BTW!)
Betty- she used to bother me, but I like the whole good girl/ bad girl thing. Betty/ Veronica, so to speak. I don't know if she'll go completely nuts, but I bet she might have an affair.
Don, poor Don- he's competing with the Pepsi generation now! I love how he changed his mind from doing the ad with a woman's short skirt to the little girl. By the way, I was kind of shocked at Don's daughter's fluffy SHORT dress. Did little girls really wear that kind of stuff? Yikes.
Well, bocaratonfan, maybe Betty's working her way "up" her new career ladder, even if she's starting at the $6 fan belt level! Gotta start somewhere. Next week it's the stableboy or groom.
Wasn't there an old Barbara Stanwyck or Bette Davis movie called "Come to the Stable"?
Betty has her hands full, jI guess, just not with Don.
sept1959, your question about dying before an ambulance showed up for someone having a heart attack is pretty correct.
In Seattle, they started the Medic One program in the 70's which saved alot of heart attack victims (for quick response and treatment enroute). Otherwise, I think your heart could be exploding until you got to the hospital and received medical treatment. Usually morphine and oxygen, and not much else then (1960s).It wasn't like there'd be any surgery happening.
Were 1960's ambulance attendants trained to administer any kind of medical treatment other than oxygen? I don't know or don't remember.
I think that's why they weren't called paramedics then, because they didn't give any kind of medical treatment enroute to the hospital. I could be totally wrong about that too. I was 13 when my dad had a heart attack in 1967, but wasn't at home when it happened, so don't remember how he was transported.
JAMM54, I'm not sure either on the treatment "enroute" to the hosp. with heart attacks or anything else. Seems like there was maybe oxygen and possibly injections of some kinds and probably IVs. Remember that old show "Emergency" that was about paramedics and they had a way to radio in (walkie talkies?) to talk to Julie London at the ER (she was a nurse--no singing "Fly Me to the Moon" ! ha) or her (real-life husband) Bobby Troup (MD) to ask how to treat the victims as they were transported. Can't recall what year(s) it was on, but it was a "new" thing, they way they could call in and get info on how to keep folks alive (hopefully) during the ride in the ambulance before theyeven got to the ER. Anybody recall the years that show was on?
Anybody recall when CPR came along? It seems like it was in the ''70s but it might even be later than that...seems like it's been around forever but it hasn't, of course.
I'm pretty sure I had instructions on how to do CPR in a high school health class (1969-72), because I did CPR on my dad in '76. I never had another class for it after high school, I know that.
I think "Emergency" was on late, late '60s to mid 70's. Was that the Chad Everett show? I remember Julie London, but I thought she was married to Jack Webb (Dragnet).
Yeah, all the heart stuff kind of freaks me out, because there just wasn't alot doctors could do except tell you to stop smoking, cut back on drinking, and stay away from salt.
Unless I'm mistaken, when you had a medical emergency in the '60's, I think you either called the police or the fire department. 911 didn't exist then. Did people waste time actually calling an ambulance service? No wonder people died so easily (may have been a blessing).
JAMM54, I believe the Chad Everett show was "Medical Center" or something like that. The "Emergency" one was with the 2 paramedics (kinda like "Adam 12"--always 2 "partners"-- like with cops!) that always answered calls from unfortunate victims of accidents, etc. and called their ER for ways to treat them. Julie London may have been married to Jack Webb at one time, but I recall she was married to Bobby Troup either during or after ?? "Emergency". I recall something called a "pull motor" used by the fire dept. on people that worked their lungs someway (suction I guess)...helped them breathe and sometimes they would come to. I guess this was drowning victims mostly?
thanks for the info, scfan. I know, when you think of some of the medical treatments, it just seems barbaric!
Ah yes, Medical Center, and Chad Everett always running around with his medical tunic unbuttoned a little to show some skin!
Emergency! was like Adam-12, just at the hospital. I remember that now.
JAMM54, you made me think of "Ben Casey" (Vince Edwards) and "Dr. Kildare" (Richard Chamberlain) (the former running around with his tunic unbuttoned!) They always saved ALL their patients (not really, I just remember it that way! ha) and their female patients always fell in love with them. I remember Ben Casey (Vince Edwards) was soooo "tall, dark and handsome" waaaay before George Clooney (not to take anything away from good old "Dr. Doug Ross") of "ER"---another quality TV memory in it's first few golden years in the '90s! Let's hope Mr. Hamm stays with MM at least 5 seasons before going totally "big screen" like George has.
bnelli - Rimsky Korsakov, but Song of India - finally found it!!
Remember Ben Casey more than Kildare. Vince Edwards was good looking. Except for a couple of movie bit parts, never saw him again.
I think Vince Edwards may have died. And Richard Chamberlain came out of the closet a few years ago...too bad...he was still hot in "The Thorn Birds" getting it on with Rachel Ward on the beach (after a lifetime of sexual denial trying to be a priest)! Not that there's anything wrong with him being gay (as in Seinfeld!) it was just suprising. I bellieve Tab Hunter turned out to be gay also. That was a no no in old Hollywood...a lot of them took the route Sal has (get married and put on the front) unless that was only a date Sal was on to keep everyone thinking he was straight. Maybe he's even "bi" huh?
scfan, you convinced Sal got married? After that awkward kiss with Joan, boy, well he's brave.
I don't think Sal's been with a woman. Now he's going to go out on a limb as a 40-something virgin (shades of Steve Carell) and start "dating"? Poor Sal - brave man, and how distasteful for him.
Did anyone think that that could have been Sal's sister or...maybe that was thrown in to make us think he was changing teams and it was just not what it seemed. Possible?
Well, I don't have HDTV, but it sure looked to me like Sal was wearing a ring of some sort on his "wedding" finger. You're right, it's not Lois, but I sure hope his sister isn't cuddling up to him on the couch on Valentine's Day.
Thanks to the Mad Men web planners for giving us the chance to see Jackie's full White House tour!
Hey, Barb, you're so right about the cuddling up...on second viewing (Thurs/11pm central time) it did look a bit cozy to be his sis! I think maybe he's bi and is in his "women phase"!
maybe Sal's just wants a little nonsexual lovin' from his sis. haha
scfan, that was Sal's wife! Today (8/1) it's on the main site recap for Episode 1. Now I really do have say, "poor Sal" - how could he do that to himself?
Elliott was cuter.
Jamm54, I really like your comments.
Yes, there was a movie called "Come To The Stable", but I remember it as starring the beautiful Loretta Young and having a religious theme. I think she was a nun!
Everybody, the White House Tour was so interesting to see again. But I never realized until now that Jackie's voice and delivery was so similar to that of Marilyn Monroe!
This show is the BEST EVER.
Well well, jamm54, did it really say that was Sal's wife? Now that I think on it, I wonder if all the little hints that we had about Sal in Season 1 (the comment he made about his male neighbor, the wierd kiss with Joan, the meeting for drinks with the gay client, etc.) maybe it was all to throw us off and make us THINK Sal was gay and turns out he actually isn't. That would be so M. Weiner, wouldn't it? Maybe Sal is just a bit effeminate and not actually gay at all.
Another thing about Sal...I suppose this gap will be filled in over the new season...wonder what happened that the switchboard operator---who is now Don's secretary---and Sal never got together, since she obviously was smitten enough with him to do the fake "I'm lost" routine to meet him after she heard him and his mom on the phone that time? Guess she just couldn't snag him and the "new" wife could! All things to those who wait...yum, 12 more episodes to savor. Bring on tomorrow night!
Sandy, I love Loretta Young! Only movies I remember seeing of hers were "Farmer's Daughter" and "Keys to the City". Nun and horses, huh? (I know by stable they must mean Jesus - just being silly). Thanks for the answer - here I was thinking it must've been one of those Bette Davis tearjerkers like "Dark Victory" or "Now, Voyager".
scfan, I think Sal is gay. I don't think he would've met Elliott for a drink. After Elliott directly/indirectly made a pass/offer, well, Sal didn't outright deny it. He rejected the "offer", but not violently at that. If Sal had been a heterosexual, he would've probably decked Elliott in that era for such a suggestion.
Someone in another post theorized the new wife could be a "beard" (ala Rock Hudson and Phyllis somebody), which I think she is.
If Sal hadn't married, I think Lois would have made it very difficult for him in the office. She was pretty aggressive, and made quite a few people "aware" of her crush - namely Sal's immediate co-workers. Remember, Sal continually represented himself as being a real ladies man through his remarks around the guys. An avowed ladies man refusing the advances of an interested woman? It would've raised questions about Sal.
By marrying, at least Sal's work life/sexual reputation is protected from any advances by aggressive woman like Lois or clients who can "spot" him, like Elliott. Marriage insulates him from awkward advances or questions.
What a tragic position to be in - untrue to yourself in absolutely every area of your life. Truly tragic.
Yeah, that is probably true, jamm54--unless he is bi like I mentioned in another post. He could be and just having his women phase! (a la Elton John who was married to a woman for a long time and then switched over to his current male partner) I know they say Errol Flynn was bi and had affairs with anything that moved evidently!
I was hoping this would've been brought up already (& apologize if I've missed it somewhere) ... but in the opening sequence ("Let's Twist Again") in Ep#1, there's a quick shot of the lock on Don's office door. Is it being changed? Why?
I wondered about that also at the time but forgot about it until you mentioned it, sharoninchicago. Maybe it was to keep people out (remember Peggy was in there crying when he walked in--after Rachel rejected him (I think that was the episode?) and he told her he needed to be alone? That's the only reason I can think of. Plus the way Pete barges in without being announced.
Perhaps Don had his lock changed (or installed a first one?) because he doesn't trust Duck? Not sure he even had a lock when Pete came in and stole the package from Don's brother...? He should have fixed it then...but that was more than a year ago.
Wonder if Peggy is saving her dimes to pay for her little one's support? I still think the baby is somewhere in the picture...
Oh and about office doors...did anyone catch the title if there was one on Peggy's office door? She walked past it and into the new copier "party" I couldn't read fast enough. Did it just say Peggy Olson or did it have a title along with her name?
I kinda have the feeling she gave it to her mom or other relative to raise so she could have her cake and eat it too i.e. know he was being loved and raised well and still be able to oversee things and also have her career) She doesn't seem like the type who could just sign him over and never see him again.
The sign on Peggy's door doesn't include her title...since she shares an office,Victor's name is above hers.
Wonder if Peggy's baby will know she's his mom...or if he'll be brought up to believe she's his sister, or his aunt? (Not uncommon in those days...as with Bobby Darin.)
Does anyone know how I would get a dress remotely like the one Betty wears when she's floating down the stairs at the Savoy? This is a serious question. Now a film-buff question--has anyone ever seen a film montage of actresses descending staircases, a la the screen kisses that are spliced together for "Cinema Paradiso"? Because there should be one, and Betty should be in it. LOVE love love this show. I was born in 1969 and the show taps into some pre-verbal memory-land for me: falling asleep while my parents played cards and drank on and on, and the needle skipped on the record player.
@scfan, well let's hope Sal doesn't have to go too long in his woman phase. I just can't imagine what the would do to your head; pretending in the most intimate area of your life (sex). Jeesh!
@kflynn: maybe if you check out American Film Institute's website, www.afi.com, you will find what you're looking for. They run so many specials for different genres, you might find something with a composite of the leading actresses coming down staircases (romance, drama, comedy?).
After seeing Peggy visit with her family, I believe the sister's baby is actually Peggy's little boy. Not sure if Peggy's mother is aware of it or not. If this is the case, it appears that Peggy is in total denial of the baby being her own. Remember how she just held the baby with no emotion when the sister placed it in her arms at church? As for Betty, I think she is ripe for an affair. I believe she may blame herself for Don's impotence and is looking to see if she can "turn on" another man - maybe the rider at the stables who has a crush on her. I think Season 2 holds many surprises and that this series will be just as exciting as the first. Can't wait to see Don pull that rope around Duck's neck.
gypsyrose: never thought of Betty feeling unattractive/unsexy because Don can't "respond" to her. Just as crippling for her, then, as it is for him.
I think it's going to take Don a couple of noose yanks before he firmly gets Duck "hung". I don't know how he can't do it if SC has lost both Mohawk and American Airlines (either $1 or $7 million in potential revenue depending on who they lost - if both, it's $8 million). You'd think that would be reason enough! I don't think it's going to be to get the "Duckman".
Hey! The drugs haven't caused him to be impotent, only with Betty. Something psychological going on there.
I cannot stand Betty. She is as boring as a can of worms and her voice makes me snore, her delivery, even when she is angry, is so damn flat. We all know that in the 60's there was no such thing as "PC" and the way her kids are growing up is the same way myself and my siter were raised while dad was doing his Mad Men thing...Joan will not marry that jerk off. She needs to profess her love to Sterling and get rid of that 20 year old snake! I want more scenes with Peggy and Don! How cool was it that he tracked her down when she had the devil child and made her snap to!? That was great! She is now Don, as a woman! Throw Duck off a cliff for letting his dog loose and Pete can swim with the fishes for all I care. I want more office scenes, the dialougue is so amazing, this show rocks! Anybody else a child of the 60's out there? One more thing, Betty is probably pregnant!