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Peggy's hotel room tryst with Duck Phillips proved to be a jaw-dropper for some of you Maddicts. But just who was working who in the bedroom? Opinions were mixed about whether this was a bad call on Peggy's part, or just signs of more growth.

"I certainly hope good wins over evil in this one, and Peggy comes to her senses, because that was probably one of the most horrific things I've seen on this series..." --

"Peggy is trying to encompass both male and female roles. She's still trying to figure out her sexuality and her business sense. Like it or not, Duck is going to be the connection between the two roles." -- DRKellogg

"...she should keep in mind Draper's comments to Hilton about the snake who is so hungry that it strangles itself with the meal." -- E-roc

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I'm glad Peggy is asserting herself and her sexuality but she has the terrible taste in men first Pete now Duck. I'm just saying yuck to Duck!

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Bobbie Barrett put her up to it:
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You're not going to get what you want until you start treating Don like an equal.

Nobody's going to tell you this: You can't be a man. Don't even try. Be a woman. It's good business when done correctly.
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That being said, learning to correctly "be a woman" is going to hurt a lot, much like falling off a bicycle.

Since nobody's there to show her how, she's gonna fall off a few times before she finally gets it.

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Duck was obviously working Peggy. The roll of being a woman during that time could obviously damage Peggy's career in that situation (whether or not she was asserting her sexuality), while Duck philandering with other woman from other firms would probably prop up his respect in his firm rather than degrade it. As for what Bobbie Barrett said to Peggy, just being a woman will get you so far, but unless you are willing to throw your weight around like a man, you won't get far. Bobbie Barrett was only as influential as her husband, but never than.

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Peggy will rebound from Don Draper's scathing criticism of her because she's succeeding at work. But she is putty in the hands of slimey Duck. She is hungry for love and hasn't learned to say No. She's in way over her head when it comes to sex. She could use some tips from JOAN.

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Aw Peggy... not Duck?! Must you learn things the hard way? She is just to inexperienced on the opposite sex, I agree, Joan could really help her out.

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Lord love a Duck!

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My first reaction to Peggy having sex with Duck was ew. That's because imo Duck is kinda swarmy and I will never forgive him for putting Chauncey out in the street.

That being said, Peggy is a single woman and Duck is a single man. They had sex. That doesn't mean they will be involved romantically, get married, etc. It just means they had sex.

cinemanut, I disagree with your assessment. Peggy doesn't seem to be looking for love; she is focused on her career. And she has no problem saying no. IMO she had sex with Duck because she wanted to, not because he turned her into putty. You underestimate Miss Olson greatly.

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Not sure where this plotline is going, but I will say I'm disappointed in people who judge Peggy for the same behavior the men on the show display consistently.

An on-the-surface analysis holds two main ideas for me:
Peggy is sort of a no pretense, no Bulls#$% girl.
Small talk is nonexistent for her and she doesn't sugarcoat any messages she gives out. I think Duck's come-on appealed to her on this level.

Second, Duck was smarter than I give him credit for...sham or no, he knew the key to getting her out of her prim little suit ( besides his teeth) was to address her talent in the same manner he would for a man, as well as make her feel like a wanted woman.

One last thought; At a seminar I attended last week, a very powerful speaker pointed out this inequity,
" Men get promoted for ambition and vision (their potential), while women are judged and promoted for being hard-working and organized ( their past performance.)"

Listening to Don lambast Peggy was the illustration of this for me. With different equipment, they would be lauding her ballsiness. Sad that that is still the case in a lot of offices...

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Peggy is channeling Joan and Bobbie Barret to get what she wants and become the woman she's destined to be. She's no fool. Keep that Hermes scarf Peggy and wear it with pride ... walk right into Pete's office when you do!

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I did not like that Peggy slept with Duck. It felt like settling with out any adventure. She was not going after something she wanted, (she is still not switching agencies, and Duck admitted he had not thought of her until it became appealing to get a proven female copy writer). It accepts being wanted in a very narrow way.

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I just love how we're seeing Peggy's character evolve and grow. She is a sponge, absorbing lessons from all of the successful women around her: Joan and Bobbie. I think she is going to use this (horrible) experience with Duck to learn something about herself and her role in a male-dominated world. She's a great character, especially compared to Betty's, who is just constantly resentful, never changing, never improving.

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Sometimes you gotta put out to keep the Hermes scarf.

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Yes, Peggy shouldn't be criticized for having sex with whomever she wants. Hope she used protection this time!

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What is the big deal with Peggy sleeping with Duck? She's a grown woman with sexual experience. She suspects that Duck wants to woo her over to Grey's in order to get even with Don (thanks to Pete's suggestion). Duck didn't treat her like a little girl. Hell, he was respectful of her talent as a copywriter when he worked at Sterling Cooper by never questioning Peggy's abilities.

Now, if this revulsion over Peggy sleeping with Duck has to do with him getting rid of his dog, then I can't take any of it seriously. Perhaps I'm just not a dog lover.

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["She's a great character, especially compared to Betty's, who is just constantly resentful, never changing, never improving."]


Really? I didn't get that impression in this latest episode. I think that Betty is a lot more formidable than people realize.

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Well, I think it's about time Peggy got a man instead of a boy, even if it is Duck. I mean Pete and that college kid she picked up, give me a break.

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I hate that everyone is reviled by the hookup. Peggy is definitely movin' on up.

I'd say her judgment is better than Joan's. Duck is head & shoulders above those gross, GROSS old men that Joan picked up the night her female roommate confessed she was in love with her. Joan took him right into the bedroom and THAT was horrifying.

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And remember when Peggy was in the hallway leaving Paul Kinsey's party, and she said she was in the business of persuasion, and she was disappointed or not impressed with the guy's attempt to close the deal? Duck slam DUNKED it.

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"I'd say her judgment is better than Joan's. Duck is head & shoulders above those gross, GROSS old men that Joan picked up the night her female roommate confessed she was in love with her. Joan took him right into the bedroom and THAT was horrifying."


Joan also married Greg Harris.

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