Q&A - Joel Murray (Freddy Rumsen)
Actor Joel Murray plays Freddy Rumsen, the man who got Peggy promoted in Season 1 then was forced out of Sterling Cooper because of his drinking in Season 2. He talked to AMCtv.com about musical zippers and wetting his pants, among other things.
Q: You're featured extensively in last week's episode "Sixth Month Leave." Do you have a favorite scene?
A: The scene after his pants-wetting incident when he goes into Peggy's office to check and see how everything went and tried to pretend like everything was fine -- I was pretty excited about that one. It's a wonderfully sad scene. The writing was just fabulous, kind of dark and humorous. There was something so simple about it that I liked and when we got done doing it the first take, I turned around and one of the costumer girls was crying. I was playing it in a way that I thought might be touching, but I didn't realize that somebody would be crying already. Maybe at the end of the episode I thought, but it tugged some heartstrings early.
Q: How did they manage to show Freddy wetting his pants in "Six Month Leave"?
A: My stand-in helped me quite a bit. He went through the testing and they tried all kinds of liquids as to what would show up best on a flannel pair of pants and look right. They ended up using rubbing alcohol, which kind of stings your privates basically. This guy was the guinea pig and told me what I had to do -- I was actually wearing a pair of Depends so I wouldn't get stung by the rubbing alcohol. I was hooked up to two strategically-placed tubes, and while I was doing the scene, a guy off-camera was turning a valve and it just kind of happened. Not something you get to do every day.
Q: Tell me about playing Mozart on your zipper in "The New Girl."
A: I had gotten the script and I knew the song. I'm a little musically inclined; I play the clarinet and the saxophone. So at home, just on a pair of jeans, I practiced it and could hear it actually sounding like something musical. And then you get to work and they give you a pair of pants with about an 18-inch zipper, so I had to re-tune for the new pants. Before we did the scene, the sound guy wanted to get a version of it, so I went into a stairwell that was very quiet and played the bit on my zipper for him and he was like, "Oh my God, you're actually hitting notes." He was shocked that I could actually play the song. The editor told me too, "It was actually on-key and you nailed it."





















Mr Murray...
Your performance in the scene with Peggy was so poignant, awkward and strained to the point where I felt my heartstrings give way to sympathy for Fred in a way I had not anticipated.
The writers gave you memorable dialogue, but you took it to a place where there were no words needed....
In that pregnant pause before you left her office, I waited for someone to say something. As I ran through the empty phrases that could be said, none seemed appropriate....
Thank you for that moment and for reminding us, once again, there are times when words are not necessary...
Wearing Depends while "pissing" rubbing alcohol...
Practicing and then having to "retune" for the difference between zippers...
Hilarious!
You're a great actor, Joel...you are in a unique group of actors (the entire cast of MM)...every one an artist. But, you already knew that, right?
Wonderful episode. I've always been a fan of Joel Murray. He nailed it.
I'll miss you Freddy! You were a real sweetheart!
I wonder what direction the show will go when one of the main and vital people leaves? This person was very important and will forever be missed.
I loved the last episode. My favorite scene was you in the bar at your "send off" with Don and Roger. You made me laugh and cry! You were swapping stories about the old times and I couldn't help but feel the comradrie of old buddies. It made the episode so much more human and really spoke to me. I hope you are coming back to Madmen. Its such an excellent show. I can't remember when the last time was that I enjoyed such wonderful writing and acting on a TV show. Thanks.
Mr. Murray: Excellent episode - you were wonderful. I hope to see Freddie Rumsen in a future episode, the sooner the better.
Can we please get a spin-off called "Freddy" where he opens his own agency, or is that too much of a 70s thing to do? I miss Freddy :(