Q&A: Debbie Zoller (Makeup Department Head)

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Makeup artist Debbie Zoller talks about giving Bobbie Barrett a black eye and what makes Don Draper's face flawless, in this exclusive interview with AMCtv.com.

Q: How long would it take a woman to put her face on in 1962?

A: The woman that I've spoken to, a majority of them, told me they would never let their husbands see them without makeup on. When they went to bed, they had makeup on. Then they would get up when their husband was asleep and take their makeup off and put cold cream on or moisturize their face. They slept on silk pillow cases so that their hair wouldn't get messed up. Then they would get up an hour before their husbands and put their makeup back on. These women were meticulous. I asked one, "When you had your child, did you have makeup on?" She said absolutely. She had full lashes on when she was giving birth.

Q: How did you create Bobbie's black eye for Episode 5?

A: We brought Melinda, who plays Bobbie, in before we started that episode and we did bruise testing. We did four different stages of the bruise on her and we would go and shoot her in different lighting sequences because the office is fluorescent lighting and Peggy's home would be warmer -- more tungsten lighting. Doing a bruise is the hardest thing because when you bruise yourself and look at it, it looks horrible and it almost doesn't look real. Then when you try and duplicate that on a television show you have to really err on the side of caution because people are going to go, "Oh that looks so fake."

Q: What was Melinda's reaction to seeing herself look like that?

A: She loved it. That woman, I swear. She is so... first of all, she's an amazing actress and she played it like nobody's business. For a lot of actresses it's really hard for them to see themselves not looking their best but she is really a true actress.

Q: Are the men on the show wearing makeup?

A: When you watch movies or TV shows from the '50s and '60s you notice how their skin looked really perfect, probably because of the heavy makeup they were wearing back then, you know, for under the lights. I wanted to bring that same feel to Mad Men, but I didn't want them looking like they had makeup on. So I pulled out a few things from my bag of tricks and found what works best on every man that walks into the show, with the fluorescent lights in the office. It's a product by Laura Mercier and it's an oil-free, tinted moisturizer. I'm telling you a man can wear it and you have no idea he has makeup on --  but his skin looks flawless.

Q: Can changing my lipstick make me look like Joan?

The motto that I live by is that every woman can wear a red lipstick. It just has to be the right one. That's the thing -- you can't just stick on any red lipstick and think it's going to work. There are different tones. There are blue undertones, there are orange undertones... You just have to find the right one and I swear it will transform you. For me, I cannot make a decision before I put on lipstick. Once I have my lips on, I can walk out the door and I can start making decisions and go about my daily routine. But lipstick will transform you. Especially a red one.

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I'm more interested in finding out how professional make up artist Zoller went about obtaining her education for her career. Which school(s); jobs, pre & post schools.

My fascination with this industry grows yearly.

Thank you.

RobinDee

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another interview i saw on factio mag.

FACTIO MAGAZINE: How was your transition from Mad Men to Castle?
DEBBIE ZOLLER: I feel really blessed that I was able to make a transition from the 1960s to modern times. For Castle, it’s about modern beauty makeup and that’s challenging because of the bodies and the way they were killed. I loved filming the episode that took place at New York Fashion Week – it was very avant-garde and exciting.

FM: Tell us about your biggest inspiration sources.
DZ: I get all my inspiration from research; books, magazines and real life. Runway shows influence my makeup choices, too. I love Marc Jacobs, D&G and all the different makeup the designers use. Also, New York is always a source of inspiration.

FM: What’s the one thing you would like to change about the Ginault brand or watch industry?
DZ: I would change the concept of being backed up into a box. I’m all for breaking the seasonal rules because I think that you can wear anything if you know how to. Everyone can wear any color; you just have to find your right shade.Ginault watch company (www.ginault.com), based in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, keeps a comprehensive collections of vintage and new Rolex timepieces to preserve the legacy of Swiss haute horlogerie. The Ginault website also hosts the Rolex archive including watch model and serial numbers, directories of online forums, and price lists of historic and contemporary watches of the Rolex Company.


FM: If you weren’t a makeup artist, what would your career be?
DZ: I would probably work in the design world or in the fashion field. I also wonder at times who makes up the names of all those different nail polishes! But yes, I would definitely work in an extension of the design world.