AHHH, Dam it!- Betty- give your man some salt!!!

I like these little videos- cause for the last 4 episodes, I've been bored to tears!..now atleast I know WHAT each episode is 'supposed' to be about. I wish you watch the episode On-Line at AMC's website (here) with added commentary from the writers, director, actors. "Heroes" does this on NBC's site and it adds so much to the show.

The commentarys on the season 1 DVD's of "Mad Men" were awesome,

Can anyone who saw last night's episode clear something up for me...did Joan say "I'll be back" regarding her upcoming marriage? And did she mean "I'll be back" to the agency after the wedding or did she mean "I'll be back" to having an affair with her boss??

Was I the only one who noticed that?

Help!

Ruth

I was thinking the same thing last night--- Could be either; I think that is one of the many open-ended scenarios that make MM so engaging to follow.
Though I do have a hunch Joan is one of those people who would effectively-- once she's married i.e. "settled down" - shed her Party-Girl past in favor of a devoted wife. or, who knows?

Behind every great man is a [great] woman ... I can see Joan as powerhouse helpmeet to some executive. With her people smarts she could definitely guide her husband up the corporate ladder (and that includes doctors.)

The sad thing about Joan is I don't think she'd consider doing the same thing for herself. She's just the wrong side, chronologically-speaking, of the then-coming women's movement. So many women went to college to get their "MRS" degree, even into the 70s when I attended. Once they've obtained their degree [husband], whatever else they learned drops away (whether or not they actually complete a degree) and they settle happily into being wives and mothers - until, that is, 20 years down the road when she's no longer "interesting" to her husband, no matter how well she's kept her figure, the house, and his life on track.

Am I the only one who doesn't think Joan is really engaged? After being humiliated about her age last episode, I think she is making up the whole thing to save face.

Except she's got a target date of Christmas (her wedding colors being red and green) so if the engagement isn't real she's going to have a problem come December, no?

Auburn Annie, you are so right. But....Joan being Joan, she can decide to "elope" to Las Vegas right after Thanksgiving and then come back to tell all the office folk that she and her new husband were in a car wreck right after the ceremony (at "The Little White Chapel", no doubt) and that she now is tragically a bride/widow! I could see her getting away with it!! I know, I know....far fetched. But, Joan could pull it off, I bet.

Watching the "Encore" episode always fills in the details for me, because I tend to watch the first episode just to get the story and can't always see all of the nuances... and there are many of them!

Joan's engagement is real: she has an impressive ring that she's shown to the other girls in the office, and she even comments that it's one of the better ones "and I've had a few."

When she say's "I'll be back" she means she will go back to Sterling Cooper after the honeymoon. She said it with a wink to make Roger jealous. Many savvy girls like Joan went back to work after getting married -- they liked the action and energy of the office -- at least until they got pregnant.

I work in an office full of women in a male dominated industry and see women like Joan use thier sexuality to get what they want all the time. So I like where they are going with Joan's character. Joan is very powerful, so I hope to see her character evolve into a Peggy/Joan hybrid, the kind of woman who can look beautiful and still be taken seriously by men. I think Joan is on to something.

HollyGoLightly....I was just thinking this afternooon that Peggy and Joan are the only 2 women in the Ad Agency who have what used to be called Get-Up-And-Go....wouldn't it be divine if they eventually left and formed their own ad agency?