That looks GREAT! I cannot wait until next week. Thursday is my favorite day of the week now.

Hear that, AMC? Would love it if you gave Mad Men the greenlight for next season!

Don was told that he creative sucked - whoa - Pete must have loved that one

With each episode, you get in deeper to being addicted!!! Please AMC have this on next season!!! How many episodes is Mad Men running for this season anyway? I LOVE THIS SHOW!!

During the credits John Slattery was credited as a "special guest star". Does this mean he is leaving the show soon? I hope not, I mean besides the plot, he is the bulk of the reason that I watch the show.

During the credits John Slattery was credited as a "special guest star". Does this mean he is leaving the show soon? I hope not, I mean besides the plot, he is the bulk of the reason that I watch the show.

When I watch Mad Men I am so involved and want it to last for hours. I love this show! Wonderful. I look forward to it, my new must watch show.

They have always listed John as a "Special Guest Star".

He's a regular but I guess they want to give him a special billing... which he should have but really a guest star is a guest star.

John Slattery is a regular though and he is not leaving the show.

OK Ladies- please help me out..I don't get it! Why did Don's wife lie to him about getting dumped from the coke ad campain?

Then in the final scene she goes Rambo on the neighbor's pigeons.

I'm sure there is some logic behind this behavior but so far nothing is clicking in my male brain.

Don knew that she would be dumped, and gave her glowing marks as a mother to build her back up. So she let the neighbor know that he shouldn't mess with her kids in a more "direct" way. What a hoot! This ending was as good as Don's retaliation toward Roger a couple episodes ago...hilarious! Another great episode...look forward to next week.

Finally! The lovely Rachel Menken returns!

I love seeing Don compassionate!

That little Sally Draper is just too cute.

She is quite "real."

NEVER. EVER , mess with a mama bear!!!!

Finally, I respect Betty!

This episode was awesome!!!!

Keep it coming AMC.

I think this is episode 9 or 10. I will be so sad when this season ends!!!!!!!! The end is near. Though I assume, if AMC is sensible, it will have many seasons to come, the idea that the first season will end in a few weeks already saddens me.

Don is going to regret not having gone with the larger, more prestigous ad agency in the last episode, as evidenced by the fact that he lost an account in this one, and his reaction was over-the-top to say the least. Pete is out for Don's spot and Don knows it; Pete will keep nipping at Don's heels and he will watch Don's life - both professionally and personally - begin to fall apart, then move in for the kill; Pete may be a pain in the neck but he is exactly the type of ad executive that prospers in the end. Don relies on his charm and a fair amount of luck, while Pete can read people like a book; Pete tells them what they want to hear (something Draper hasn't mastered) and that wins the day in ever case. And of course, Draper can at least read Pete, and assumes he can keep him in his place. I don't think so. Pete will find a way to finally one-up Draper. Pete is a casual and callous back-stabber and he is determined to get Draper's position. Draper has way too much baggage and it's about to come along and bite him in the behind! Pete had better keep an eye on Peggy's waistline and prepare to discreetly send her for an abortion (but not to the back alley variety). Afterall, Pete's wife apparently adores him and she comes from money, so I suspect he will be able to secure enough for a "society abortion." As for Betty, she is inching closer to the edge with every passing episode. Her carefully-crafted life is also beginning to show cracks.

Thank God the ubersexy Rachel Menken will be in next week. I'm getting tired of all the story lines with Ms. "Leave it to Beaver" Draper.

p.s. Loved the live pigeon shooting gallery!!!!

Betty's character is becoming more and more interesting. I love her strength. It is good to see that she is more than a pretty face and an obedient housewife.

(Officer and Gentleman)Lt. Don Draper, (Blue Collar/working man) Sgt Dick Whitman, US Army, Korea, identified by his little brother's photo. The gentleman on the commuter train recognized Draper as "Dick Whitman" from Ft. Sill, OK, training grounds for the US Army's Artillery Branch. Draper and Whitman are serving together in Korea at the start of the war in 1950. American and ROK forces are initially overrun and pushed back to the "Pusan Perimeter" and almost into the sea. Many units had few or no survivors. Along comes MacArthur with an "end run" at the port of Inchon, and now the American forces push all the way north to the Yalu River on the Chinese border, with still more confusion to follow when 10 Chinese Divisions invade south, stopping at the 38th Parallel which was where the original hostilities began. All this occurred in a relatively short period of time. What a great opportunity for a cynical, intelligent, gutsy enlisted man limited by his "whorechild" birth and lack of formal education, to start a new life and new identity as a "Hero" complete with the "Purple Heart" medal, also known as the "enemy marksmanship award." The gent on the train also stated he was working for "IBM." Speculation on my part so far, but I would guess that IBM will be needing some advertising expertise very shortly.

Shelley:

She lied because she felt embarrassed that they let her go. When she left the modeling world the first time, it was on her terms. This time, it wasn't her choice (like when a guy breaks up with you). Also, I think she realized that Don was right, the guy was using her to get him to work for them.

Now, the last scene with her shooting the pigeons...

My reaction to pigeons is that they are let free, and return of their own free will. Betty returned to her home, not of her own free will. Just like she was jealous of the divorced woman's 'freedom', she resents the pigeons that have the 'freedom', yet return.

Also, her husband may tell her what to do, but damn if the neighbor is going to tell her what to do!

I found this episode to be the best yet!

I am fascinated by this show and the characters that it portrays. I am in interactive marketing and how far we have come in so little time in relative terms. But I must point out as with accounting, banking, law and other very established industries there are established principles in marketing/advertising. Minus all the period time frame references this show hits it right on the money as far as what advertising is. Advertising has and always will be selling Happiness.

And there she goes Birdie shooting up at the birds! So that was Episode 9's significance of Shoot. Pete shot a punch even if it was a sucker punch. He does care for Peggy who is obviously expecting.

Don has to find a new wife. Betty's emotionally absent. Rarely will he express his inner feelings about anything and when he does her response is "you're very sweet". After being let go from modeling, she has pigeons on her mind. What better way to let out frustration. It's getting more bizarre. I'm starting to compare this show to Marty Hartman, Marty Hartman.

Oops. Had Marty on my mind. It's MARY. MARY.

Thomas,

Betty lies to Don because she's trying to keep up her false face of perfection. Don and Betty are only physically intimate, not spiritually or mentally intimate. They really don't know each other, and they are really using each other. Betty uses Don for security and respectability. Don uses Betty as a pseudo-mother figure -- the mother he wished he had had -- plus she is pretty on his arm -- a trophy wife. So much of the fifties was about fitting into pigeon holes. Everyone trying to be what society told them they must be -- the two african americans we have seen are a janitor and an elevator man, the women are mothers or secretaries, everyone stays in their places. Don changed his place -- very hobo-like, jumped the rail and became someone else. He is a rebel. But, he doesn't seem to empathize much with others. His wife is the perfect mother. His bohemian girlfriend is the perfect playtoy, Rachel is the perfect unattainable prize. He does not recognise Pete's gift for advertizing. Whatever else Pete is, he is a good ad man. Don is difficult. Betty is a lost soul. All she has is good looks which she knows will fade. She never wants her husband to think of her as anything but perfect. But, in truth, she is just a regular person with fears and ambitions and dreams and flaws aplenty. She can never let Don see these things or Don might just leave her and then what will happen to her. She can't provide for herself. She was brought up to be a wife and mother. She says in this last episode that she did what she was suppose to -- get married and have children -- but now what? Is that all there is? WE have to remember the very limited opportunities available to women in 1960. Betty is scared to death. And, she has to resources. None.

Does this help?

Linda

I'm so glad Rachel is back in this episode. Love the chemistry between her and Don. This show is the greatest!

This week was the best show. The Betty character is much more interesting. The scene between she and Don, when she tells him she doesn't want to do any more modeling, was sweet and tender for both characters. Yet I love how she blows away the birds.

Question - does Betty know about Don's childhood?

Question - is Peggy pregnant or just getting a little stout?

Question - is the office manager friend or foe to Peggy? Or a little of both?

I think the saddest character is Pete. The scene a couple of weeks ago between he and his parents was tragic. He really is at a lost on how to deal with the world - so he usually acts inapropriately.

Can't wait until next week - my favorite show - hope it goes on and on!!!

Question -

Mad Butterfly and Linda,

I agree with your analysis of Betty in response to Thomas's question (note: poster's name appears underneath the post). She had to lie to save face - remember, it was all about appearances back then. What was interesting to me was that Don knew she was lying, but didn't flinch. Also, I thought Don's comment to Betty about being the perfect mother was a psychological ploy to brainwash her into "keeping her place" as a mother and housewife. If Betty breaks away from her traditional role as mother/housewife, then it will mess up Don's world. I think that is another reason why Don did not accept the job. He is a BIG fish in a little pond at Sterling Cooper. Why trade that to become a bottom feeder in a big agency? And remember, Roger said they would match any offer to keep him.

Changing the subject: Did anyone catch the doll sitting on the chair while Don watched TV? My sister had a Thumbelina doll just like that one - the eye lids blinked with synthetic eyelashes. I remember that doll so well!

Thanks AMC for the 60's details, right down to the toys of that period.

As FYI for all posters who like to read all the posts, more are located on the another thread about Episode 9. This thread is actually intended to be for next week's Episode 10. I didn't realize it until I went back to the Blogs/Comments section. (To: AMC's website designer - this is sorta confusing).

Wow, what's up with Roger and the twin sisters. That is KINKY! Not that that's a bad thing....

LOVE this show!!!!

Mr. Menken's foreshadowing: "I hope you two know what you're doing."

Nice catch, TJ.

Did anyone notice how both Don and Betty were both oblivious to Sally's obviously upset expression at the dinner table the night of the pidgeon owning neighbor's death threat to her dog? They are both so self-absorbed it isn't surprising. Betty is a good mother but she had her adventure into modeling on her mind and missed picking up her daughter's mood until she woke them up after the nightmare. Just thought it interesting that Betty is usually such an attentive mom and she missed that completely. Of course, for Don it was par for the course...kiss her golden locks and on to his own dinner!

Don should hire Dick Cheney to get rid of the pigeons.

Lots of interesting comments here. More at Alan Sepinwalls blog and other places. What is particularly unique to this show is how the comments go in depth re personality issues in many characters, and how the show is taking its time to flesh out each different role, and their interplay, from Pete and Peggy to Don and Betty, Salvador, Joan and others. These are people from a very ineresing time and we seem to want to see what is going to happen to them as their world dramatically changes. So much was happening in the early 60's, they will have endless situations to explore. I though Linda's comments above re Betty were fairly on the mark. Betty went to an undeveloped seemingly extremely shallow portrayal to a woman "on the verge of a nervous breakdown". I have found myself thinking about this show during the week. And as someone who grew up during these year a shortly later, was a teen in the fifties, so much of this rings true. I also especially like the small things in this show, the placement of objects, etc. When Betty was reading from the Bookhouse books to her kids in an earlier episode I about cried.

The Best of the Best. The best written, best acted show in years and maybe ever. My sis worked in the Ad business in 1960, when I was 14. Please keep this show on. It is a 5 out of 4 and I have never written about a show ever. I feel like I've gone home again when I watch it. Sis and all are gone now, but she was a mover and shaker in St. Louis, Mo when D'Arcy Adv. handled the Auggie Bush/Budweiser act. You are so right on about the politcal tone, the civil rights, the feminine cause etc. SO GOOD! Do not listen to detracters, they don't get it. It's too "hit you in the gut" RIGHT ON" I LOVE IT! Randi Ritter Ruffing I tape it all and watch over and over.

I thought I'd never get over the loss I felt with "The Sopranos" finale, but "Mad Men" has achieved the same level of excellence in just 9 episodes. It's the high point of my week, and I don't watch much TV. Many of the characters remind me of my parents' friends of that era. I was 12 in 1960 and so much of this stuff hit's home. I'm dying for more info about each character, but they're only doling it out slowly.

I hope the show is getting good enough ratings to keep it going. To bad it's on AMC which used to be good before they went commercial.

This is the best TV I've seen in years. Please let it continue. I am of the generation where women were mostly wives and mothers. Career women were suspect and they were either teachers, nurses or secretaries. I can identify with the females in this show. Well, not the beautiful or sexy ones....Just the female drones.

I have given a lot of thought to Betty's comment about wanting to take her daughter's picture when she's crying. I think it shows that Betty sees emotion as something that is displayed, not something that is felt or is to be respected. Tears are for show. It further reveals her inability to connect emotionally, even to her children. When someone doesn't have an emotional connection to their parents, especially the mother, it makes it very difficult to connect to anyone.

I am positively addicted to and obsessed with this show. I think about it constantly. I think it's good that it's only one once a week for an hour or I would not be able to sleep!

I want to see more of Elliot and Sal. I think those characters are so interesting to watch and I am interested in where their storyline might go!!

Thanks!

Alex

Don Draper is the man. I swear this show better be on next season and for many more to come. Mad Men is by far the best show on television since the introduction of television! To think, I used to hate thursdays...now it's my favorite day of the week. Now I have all my friends and co-workers watching it too. I can't wait to find out more about Don's past and to see if Pete Campbell leaves his hoity toity wife for Peggy. I think Betty will eventually get either left by Don or she will kill herself. She is a bit flakey. Don should be with Rachel and he damn sure shouldn't have given that huge bonus to that trampy mistress of his. How the hell can you go from Don Draper to sleeping with some scuzzy, jobless, pre-hippy, hippy? Especially when the other guy sleeps on 'a bed made of money'. I loved that line. HA! I cant wait till the DVD comes out!

I think you are all wrong about Betty.

I think she shot the pigeons to show she isn't weak. She's worried that's what people think and she keeps going out of her way to prove otherwise. She runs a perfect household, never complains when her husband doesn't come home and is definitely doing more than her share of the child rearing. She is an amazing housewife and mother which is the hardest job around.

She wants more but doesn't want her husband or kids to sacrifice. She'll stir things up again especially after getting a taste for modeling again and you can bet she will fight for her man if that Rachel becomes a real threat. (That is if she finds out). I can't wait to see how her relationship with Don unfolds. He worries about her and I think he really does want her to be happy. I can't wait for Thursday.

She might fight for Don but I doubt shell win. She's too emotionally disconnected and quite literally disconnected from Don. When Don and her were at the table and he was being all sentimental she said "you're sweet." Your sweet? That's all she had to say to her husband? I think Rachel's already a real and major threat because she's the unattainable. Don wants her but can't have her which makes him want her more. They're emotionally connected as well, they both know how it feels to be apart of something but not. Eventually I think Don will leave Betty or she'll leave him.

You'll shoot your eye out kid.

Too many guns. Pete with his .22 rifle and Betty with her air rifle. She did a

good impression of Chuck Conners cocking

her Daisy Red Ryder rifle with one hand

while smoking a cigarette. January Jones

should make a Cabela commercial with her

hunting pheasants in her native South Dakota while wearing slippers and a nightgown. Could be a big boost for the Versus Channel.

I disagree with posters who say Betty shot at the pidgeons to defend her family or to show she's not weak. It has nothing to do with her role as suburban wife and mother who "has it all." Shooting at the birds was a manifestation of Betty's rage and disillusionment after losing her modeling job. Like the homing pidgeons, she returned home, out of instinct and the fact that she has no other place to go. She is as much a captive as the birds. I don't think she is equipped emotionally to connect with anyone that deeply, including her own children. Betty is a pretty, rather childish woman who's accustomed to getting what she wants and is accorded attention because of her looks. She is unhappy, and doesn't know why, so she acted out in a way that demands attention. (Britney shaving her head, anyone?) It remains to be seen if Betty will develop emotionally, or be shunted off into the world of Valium and "mommy's little helpers."

A lots of posts are speculating about Betty's motive for shooting at the pigeons... she's having a breakdown, she's a mother bear defending her cubs, she's frustrated because she lost the modeling job, etc.

My question is far more basic: why the hell does the neighbor have pigeons in the first place? Are they his 'pets'? Did a lot of people have pet pigeons at that time? (Do people have pet pigeons now?)

I consider pigeons to be flying rats! Wouldn't want them as pets. Nasty!

:)

People kept homing pigeons as a hobby. There was a guy in our neighborhood (suburban Charleston, SC) who had a large coop full of them. Nobody made any big deal out of it. Of course this was before neighborhood associations.

They would take the pigeons out somewhere, release them and see who got home first.

I believe homing pigeons were also used in WWII to deliver messages.

First off, don't compare Betty with Britney, Britney shaved her head not because she was, although she is, crazy, she did it show the drugs wouln't show up when she went to rehab. Alright that bugged me now it's off my chest.

And I agree with Roger. Pigeons? WTF? Does the guy enjoy cleaning bird shit?

Seen every episode and recommended it to all my friends! Each week there is always a discussion because they are always so great. This show must be renewed!

If you're interested, would love to have you:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/MadMenAMC/

NYC is known for the number of bird hobbyists who raise/train pigeons on local rooftops. And suburbia would be a much more ideal place to have a coop--more space and easier cleaning, for one thing. Why can't the guy have pigeons? One could argue they are less-messy and intrusive than kids and dogs, no? ;)

PatB: Thanks for the scoop on pigeons:)

deering: Good point! Funny that whether it's kids, dogs or pigeons ... waste management plays an integral role. LOL!

My son and I love this show. Can't wait for Thursdays...have to tape it when I can't be home that night. One question...a silly one I guess...but I grew up in the 60s and recognize cars of the era. At the end of the 1st episode Don drives home from the train staion in a 1959 Oldsmobile 4 dr sedan. In the later episodes (including the scene in which he never went to fetch the birthday cake) he was driving a 1960 Buick Convertible. This might be the couples second car? But then, no, she drives a typical suburban housewife 1957 Ford station wagon when she has her minor accident. So where did the convertible come from? Would this young family with small children have THREE cars back in 1960? Not typical of the era when some families still had only ONE car. Did I miss a comment on some episode about a trade-in or did the prop people simply make a switch based on available cars?

Looking at the Sneak Peek -

It took ten shows but it's the first time Don's shown real emotion in the show - shoving the lamp and other items off his desk. Doesn't like losing clients and Pete should have made him aware of what was going on in the client's mind, he's the account exec - that they were thinking about moving. It should not have come as a surprise. Don told Pete in the last episode that clients come and go and has in the past "fired" clients - something he couldn't do at McCann according to Roger.

Of course, if you looked at Pete's face, he was delighted to give the news to Don about their lack of confidence in the creative side. He even volunteered to give the "sad" news to Sterling. For being their account exec, he's not taking their leaving very seriously and is planning to lay the blame on Don.

Roger, I noticed the cars also. I have a 61 Buick Electra 225 convertible and saw that Don drove a 60 but wasn't sure about the car he drove to get the cake. Thought it was the convertible with the top up but it may have been a Pontiac or Olds. Not sure.Good eye.

Roger, I noticed the cars also. I have a 61 Buick Electra 225 convertible and saw that Don drove a 60 but wasn't sure about the car he drove to get the cake. Thought it was the convertible with the top up but it may have been a Pontiac or Olds. Not sure.Good eye

I could squeeze Mr. Weiner. i just adore this show. The dialog has so many clever lines. ( Lobster Tail )

The entire concept introduces an audience to a time when everything was either just coming out of the closet or being stuffed to the back of a lingerie drawer.

I personally see the chemistry of this series has been put together so well. The music , the characters ,the story line is more than just another series.

Thank goodness for your signage on bus shelters in Manhattan . I hardly every watch television, but the graphics caught my eye.

Mr. Rumson, this portrayal is so like the men of that time. I can almost smell his cologne. Canoe....Thanks Joel Murry.

To date .. favorite episode... Babylon,

Writing, camera on Joan .. worth watching more than once.

So satifying!

About the pigeons and dogs....interestingly enough when I was young about the time this series takes place ....my uncle a very salt of the earth type guy into fishing, hunting and minor horticulturalist type activities...was also into raising both pigeons and greyhounds...the pigeons were homing pigeons and there was some kind of comeptetive thing going on there as it was with the greyhounds...he entered them in competetive races...

For my money I liked the greyhounds much better than the pigeons..my brother and I were both given dogs when when were born so we grew up with them. And in the course of natural events there were occasions when the pigeons flew the coop on an unscheduled basis and were tackeled by the dogs...so it wasn't strange that the dog in this episode wound up with a pigeon in his mouth on his side of the yard if I remember correctly....

For the record I don't like pigeons...the only thing they can do for me is act as a literary/dramatic methaphor.

This is Ted T I posted the first comment on the cars. THe way this board has that dotted line below the post is confusing..it separates the name of the poster from the comment. Anyway, the trip to get the cake...and Don's time spent parked by the railroad tracks by himself when he should have been delivering the cake home...was definitely in the Buick convertible with the top up. The convertible is white. The Buick was prominent in the episode when Don and Betty drove home from the play..you could clearly see the old dash map light and the words BUICK in the radio buttons as Don searched for a station. But the first car he drove was a darker, perhaps green or blue, 59 Olds. Is this like a Hitchcock trick...planting an obvious prop switch in the filming as deliberate error?

Enough with the pigeons already.

Next we'll be comparing Don and Betty to Brando and Saint in "On the Waterfront".

Let's continue with the "car spotting'.

What happened to Don's bonus check? Does Midge have it? Was it torn in half after she turned down Don's invitation to Paris?

I don't recall. Anybody know? Hey...that's where the Buick convertible came from...he bought it with the bonus when Midge wouldn't head out to Idlewild with him. Just kidding about the car, but does anyone know what happened to the check?

For the record:

Don's bonus check is lodged in the cleaveage(sp) emanating from Midge's peasant blouse.

I recall how many people smoked back then and this of course is prominent in Madmen. Everyone did. High schools even had smoking areas, or the 'smoking grounds' as we called it, for students. But smoking even by the ob gyn in the patient examination room when Peggy gets the pill? I thought that was a bit too much, out of sync with what would have been normally expected even back then. I don't ever recall a doctor I saw smoking in an exam room or any ash trays in exam rooms. Also I spotted an anachronism. The IBM Selectric II typewiter models shown on the desks were not introduced until early 1970s. But the first Selectric was introduced in 1961.

AMC RENEWS MAD MEN!!!!!!! :)

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I was 9 years old in 1960. My pediatrician always had a pipe in his mouth and smoked when we were there. According to my mother he was one of the best around and she credited him with saving my younger sister's life as she was very premature. The smoking in all public places didn't really abate until the late 80's. This show is great. I concurr with everyone that I hope it continues for a long time. There is certainly enough interesting background so as not to get repetitive.

Mad Men is my favorite TV show. The script is so clever and the actors are so well type-cast. I hope the interesting story continues.

Re pigeons or doves: back in the early 70's I worked for a large home farm on Sonoma Mountain, while getting my credential. The owner kept doves for Squab (one of my jobs was to "prepare" them). They matured in twenty-something days (it's been along time).

As I wrote either here or somewhere else, there are a number of moments in this show which are psychicly jarring. By that, they seem out of place or really unusual in the particular setting and time, like a sideways jump. I wrote about 4 or 5, but there are more. The first may have been Don in the car by the tracks with the cake. It seemed so unkind and unfather-like or husband-like. How could somebody be so inconsiderate? Only later could we make a kind of connection to the hobo. With Betty there have been several instances, including the lock of hair and slap scene, and most recently the rifle scene. She is a "woman on the verge of"...what? Awareness? Emotional collapse? A Psychotic break? And Pete at first going with the disrespect of Peggy, then boiling over in an uncontrolled manner, giving himself away when that's the last thing he must have wanted in terms of recognition. Yes, there are explanations, but they all seem to fall a little short---there must be more to it. But these moments are what help set the show apart. How many shows are there that can engender so much interesting conjecture and social commentary?

Oh please! I tried watching the 1st show and was comletely turned off by the good ol' boys I've always worked with. What the heck makes this watchable? Men behaving like spoiled brats. Been there. It wasn't at all enjoyable, believe me.

I'm THRILLED Mad Men has been renewed, although I have no idea how I'm going to make it to June before season 2 starts.

JUNE?! OMG, how am I to cope?

mcincrash -

So why are you still (apparently) watching?

Someone mentioned Rachel's father saying in Epi 10, "I hope you two know what you're doing." Like it was foreshadowing.

I don't know if anyone who is relinquishing power to the younger generation hasn't had the same thought. %&$#%$-ing kids! :-)

On the other hand, it could be a foreshadowing of their personal relationship which he (apparently) hasn't picked up on.

I have never ever waited to hear if a TV show was renewed. Great news!

I remember my mother telling us how her ob/gyn always had a cigar going during her checkups - 4 kids born in the 50's.

9 episodes & we're still talking typewriters?

Just realized that tonight they are doing the 5G repeat! Was so looking forward to episode 10. Next year they should venture into the fall a little. I also read the article that said that each year will jump 2 years. That should make the show interesting in a new way each year as the societal issue evolve. Also picked up on Don coughing in the car. Have to wonder why they put that in there---prelude to cancer or giving up smoking?

Want to see how Don's infatuation with Rachel changes. He is. like so many men, caught between wanting the "good girl" mom, and the "wild or headstrong woman" as a lover. Rachel could control him if she wanted to. As yet, she sees no reason to play his game. That may change. If so, look out as Don will take serious risks to taste the catnip.

Boo-hoo no new episode tonight. I need my Don Draper fix! Please, please, please renew this show for another season, AMC!!! I wait all week for it. Haven't cared about any show this much since "The Sopranos."

What Happened? I was very excited to see Episode 10 and just tuned in. To my dismay, the Episode was a repeat.

I am very disappointed. What happened?

MAJOR SCREW-UP!!!! How come episode 5 is playing when it should be episode 10!!!

a repeat tonight?!

this is BULLSH*T

a rerun, what a bunch of crap, without warning

I don't think I would have shown a preview for the next Episode if it was the end of the Season and the Episode shown was not going to be shown until next year.

Especially since this is a new show.

So to confirm, Episode 10 will show next year (June 08)?

Thankfully Tim Gunn is on Bravo at the same time.

a rerun what a bunch of crap. amc really has contempt for the audience to do this, and without warning. if they were going to do this they should have said so last week, really bait and switch.

how many episodes are there? was that it last week?

No, Episode 10 will show next week, not next year (per AMC website).

There are 13 episodes this year, so there are 4 more to go.

WTF -- Why are they re-running epi 5 tonite when they have #10 ready to go and premiered it last week? I am so totally pissed off! Also, my cable company hasn't saved any episodes beyond #7 and so I can't watch the recent ones for a 2nd time. Urrrggh.

I can't find on the web site where they say that Episode 10 is being shown next week.

I see they are showing is September 20th, which is today. Not sure. I will take your word for it.

If there are four Episodes to go.. when are they going to be shown

AMC needs to apologize to the fans and make a statement as to what happened.

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I'm a 42 year old lawyer. I love the show and it is the talk of my law firm. I suspect the show does great in my demographic. And I bet my demographic is a winner for AMC's advertising. Apropos!

From AMC website:

Episode 10: Long Weekend

Don loses an account. Roger, stuck in the city for Labor Day weekend, attempts to cheer him up. Meanwhile, Joan has a night out on the town with her roommate. "The Long Weekend" airs Thurs. September 27 @ 10PM | 9C. There will be an encore presentation of Episode 5: "5G" on Thurs. September 20 @ 10PM | 9C.

Love the show !

so disappointed to find a rerun tonight. where is the next episode? I am not a t.v. watcher but this show has me hooked!

WTF- A Repeat?!!! - I was sooo looking forward to this epi - I'm PISSED!

I need to get a life. When is epi 10 gonna be on?

that's nice that that note was up there quietly on the website - but we still should have told about the rerun at the end of last week's episode ... http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/09/mad-men-what-rerun-without-warning.html

Do we know if it is a mistake-they preview last week the new episode-doesn't make sense???????

The copy on the web site was changed AFTER 10PM tonight.

The copy originally said that Episode 10 was to air tonight at 10PM.

Obviously something happened for them not to air tonight. Not sure.

What happened to Episode 10?

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A rerun, at this point of the season? Arggh

No, the website always said that Number Ten was airing next week. But they did add the part about tonight being a repeat... after 10pm.

Boo. Bring on the new eps!

WTF? Why are they taking a week off in the middle of the show? I'm so bummed! I've been looking forward to this all week.

Me too Steve.. I came home for this!! I'm so disappointed!!! :(

Episode 10 will air NEXT WEEK (September 27) so calm down people. For heaven's sake this isn't the end of the world; so a rerun was aired in place of episode 10, it's not as though they will NEVER show episode 10. Some of you are really a little over the top on this. Keep repeating...It's only a television show, it's only a television show. It's good, yes, but not the be-all-end-all. There are OTHER things going on in this world besides Mad Men.

Episode 10 will air NEXT WEEK (September 27) so calm down people. For heaven's sake this isn't the end of the world; so a rerun was aired in place of episode 10, it's not as though they will NEVER show episode 10. Some of you are really a little over the top on this. Keep repeating...It's only a television show, it's only a television show. It's good, yes, but not the be-all-end-all. There are OTHER things going on in this world besides Mad Men.

Episode 10 will air NEXT WEEK (September 27) so calm down people. For heaven's sake this isn't the end of the world; so a rerun was aired in place of episode 10, it's not as though they will NEVER show episode 10. Some of you are really a little over the top on this. Keep repeating...It's only a television show, it's only a television show. It's good, yes, but not the be-all-end-all. There are OTHER things going on in this world besides Mad Men.

a repeat! a F$#@i^& repeat!! mother&%#@r!!

Well thanks folks...you've done it again

come up with another great show to obsess on. OMG I love it and it helps getting

over the Sopranos. This show is so right on it's scary and what's more I remember

the era growing up in the sixties and let me tell you all if you were there... You know can't make this stuff up from the post-WWII mandated "Mommies" behind white picket fenses to their men in grey flannel suits (read frauds). We'll hopefully see these characters break out

in the seasons to come. What a ride it'll be.

I work alot and didn't know that tonite was a rerun of the "long lost brother" episode. Not that I really didn't enjoy it again. When is the "Long Weekend" going to air? I'd hate to miss it. Also, I agree pandora I don't think Betty is asserting. It looked like alot of pent up anger and frustration to me. I hope Don doesn't keep a pistol in the house. Although it would make for a great episode. Think of all the possible premises. Find's out about "miss maynard G. Krebbs" A.K.A. "Scuzzy,STD carrier mistress" or she could blow away Rachel Menken, or show up at the Office and Blow Don away. Of course he has to live because we have to keep this show going for a few years. Right AMC? Boy! On tonites rerun of the lost brother episode I could swear that Don looked terrified when he came back in the office after putting Adam in the elevator and telling him to meet him at noon for lunch. What is he so scared of? What is he hiding? My mind comes up with so many possibilities. It has to be something bad, why has he gone to so much trouble. It's as though he's hiding. Is he wanted by the Law? or Did he kill a man or something? It's hard for me to think that all that is to hide that he is Jewish. I think he could have switched Dog tags with a dead officer after a terrible battle, and became "Don Draper". That would explain why Adam thought he was dead. I could write all nite about this. When is episode 10?

LOL LOL Thanks Fay I needed to laugh. I know it's sophmoric, but I couldn't stop laughing when you began your comment with "I could squeeze Mr. Wiener" LOL,LOL. I'm sorry but it's late and I'm tired. And so is Mr. Wiener so my wife doesn't get to squeeze him tonite.

I was so jonesing for a new episode after last week that I watched "Butterfield 8" with Elizabeth Taylor. It was so Mad Men, it kept me going even with the repeat this week. I think it's still on Comcast On Demand in the free movie section. Set in NYC in 1960, it appears that the Mad Men creatives lifted some bar scenes from this pic. There is a lot of sexism, smoking and scotch in this movie. Elizabeth Taylor is great as a "bad girl." Highly recommended!!

A couple comments about episode 5G:

When Don goes into the bathroom at home, camera deliberately focused on the horseshoe in the award goes upside down, signaling that his luck is running out.

Second, 5G's for room 5G? Too cute.

Third, Pete grew up with the proverbial silver spoon in his mouth. He expects his bride will manage to arrange for him to get published, not thinking of what that might entail, even if he was a former (her "first") boyfriend. First year of marriage, when so many memorable things happen.

Fourth, $5,000 wasn't just a lot of money - it was probably three to five years of salary for Adam. Even more interesting is that Don kept that much locked up in his desk drawer, not in a bank. What some people might term "Get out of town, fast" money.

The Chicago Tribune showed the 5G rerun in both their weekly TV guide and the Sept 20 edition. Does anyone read the newspapers?

I am so excited about the show being renewed. Kind of bummed that new eps won't air until June though. That's a long time to wait. Oh well at least it's on for another season.

I have a question. In one Internet article I read, about the show being picked up for another season, it said it was the first original AMC series. But wasn't there a show on AMC a few years ago set in the 1930s about a radio show? If I remember correctly, it starred Molly Ringwald. Does anyone remember this show or was it on another network?

Ritt: Yes... 'Get out of town, fast' money... that's a good point given that he was effectively saying "this is the life I have made" the persona I now enhabit... he may have wanted a holiday with M in Paris but then he gets all protective and territorial about his wife modelling and his staying put, a the position he's made his own niche at Sterling-Cooper... thus we see the ying and yang of his roving and retrenched self, the self made man of means who is haunted by what he hasn't seen, touched, felt, known intimately... he's an existential by birth, so to speak, but there is a romantic realist trying to break out when life gets to programatic, pragmatic, predictable... he loves the status of things, the surface of place, success, money and family and yet deeply distrusts the notion of being held within a status of permenance, and that is one of the major thematic/essentialist superficial dicotamies of western/urban monderity... Don isn't going to go off and join a commune, no matter how much he feels the coarsing impulses of flight (Fly Me to the Moon)... he HAS to remain, because he's a paradoxical insiders insider... it's taken his entire life to get to where he is (even if at times he feels it's a big mistake or less than he thought it would be); he still can't 'just leave it' because there is a magnetic pull, a gravity of expectation that also takes hold once one has conformed, confirmed ones place with heirarchy, status, love, fatherhood, success... but, indeed gravitation forces exert pressures, create stresses... so you try to delude, deflect, dilute these applied stresses in sex, drinking, and the notion that you could just leave it all... we all formulate patterns of conformity and resistence... it's just that 1960 'from the terrace' looks to us, as we look back upon it, reimagining it, reconstituting as such a showcasing, pristine, ordering of expected civility keeping under wraps the hedonism soon to culturally manifest itself... that's the wonderful tension that saturates Mad Men... everything that they can't admit to wanting and doing (or in fact do), though sexist, racist, homophobic ravings are expressed with the ease of a sipped highball...

... speaking of highballs, we need more of them and more newspapers and could Roger have possibly brought in those golf clubs to Don's office without a joke about Arnold Palmer, who had that April won his second Masters having brought golf hurtling into American popular culture?

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Matt Weiner:

Look what you have done, created a group of fanatics, captivated by these characters with their unknown pasts and uncertian futures.

We are so fascinated by these "people" that we can't wait for the slow unfolding of their lives.

We are forced to ponder every possible scenerio that could have formed the personality we see now.

We love'em, we hate 'em but we can't get enough of them.

Discussing it on the Blog eases the time from Thursday to T