aww he had the crocodile tears

O devil, devil!
If that the earth could teem with woman's tears,
Each drop she falls would prove a crocodile.
Out of my sight!

so if it's ok to kill that beautiful daughter of Don's...
the wonderful sweet Jane.....

then I guess it's ok to kill Skylar or Marie

as long as you shead a tear.

Beguiles him as the mournful crocodile
With sorrow

Nice touch zia! But you didn't tell me your price.

Actually, you're right.

And therein lies the point.

We're all born to die, the simple bare fact of the matter.

Our lives are a flash in the pan.

What will you do with yours? If you're going to die tomorrow, what becomes important today?

Does it change?

Of course it does.

clarifying the question...at what price would I let a adorable girl like Jane die for?

I'm really surprised Walt didn't roll Jesse on his back and give him another shot of smack.

The 400k+ mistake ;)

As much as I have sympathy for Donald, whose daughter gave him a lot of worry and pain with her addiction and Lord knows how we could see Donald watch her every minute to see Jane keep away from her habit, Jane was still not to be trusted. Jane needed a ton load of counseling beyond the rehab her father kept dragging her to and you noticed Jane was tripping up on keeping her appointments with rehab and giving Dad an excuse everytime for not showing up. I knew she would use Jessie to her own agenda of jumping back on the addiction band wagon without any encouragement, because Jane was one step away from relapsing again and again. This scenario has been hashed over and over and the fact still remains that Walt understood the reason why Walt allowed her to die..she would have trashed Jessie's life with a new addiction besides Meth. Jane's new agenda meant using Jessie and Walt by blackmailing them and running off with Jessie's bag of money. Regardless how romantically involved she was with Jessie, Jessie was a means to relaspe to her habit, grab the money and run. Walt was upset to see Jane die so young, but he knew Jane and hadn't any choice.

Jane ?... compared to the other success stories Jesse ran around with.

An empty can of Maxwell House coffee and the cost of cremation!

Vince might test us all to see if Walt is such a good guy afterall. His past will eventually catch up with him, but possibly St. Peter at the gates might give him slight break since Walt, normally a good human, had to break bad for a short time to save himself and his family.

Walkercolt, when you ask what our lives are worth...........sure, the gods above play with our lives and put us all in some type of hell at least few times in our lives..they are testing us to see what we will do when hell has us by the throats. It's what we do with our lives that counts...accountability of one's actions and self. Yes, Walt was at death's door and he fought the odds and beat them, but the question is now, as in a past topic, what makes Walt still continue making the meth and going down the darker road when the cancer is basically taken care of and Walt has the stashed money to take care of his family?? Something is "eating" at Walt inside..the turmoil is still stirring within and his inner demons are really running amuck to keep him still wanting to make the meth. I say, he is caught up in his own turmoil and the last scene we see Walt is sitting next to the pool, mulling over what he has done in the past and for what? He has cancer in remission, money made for the family, price on his head if caught, and a lot of dead souls along the way to remind him of himself of what he has done in the past few months. He has lied to practically everyone and lied continually to the point it forced Skyler to run away with Holly and leave. Walt will never be able to go back to the standardized life he once had, but go forward and keep the wheels moving, making BlueSky. He has no choice because Gus now will use him from now on to make more money for his cartel and the actions he takes now is far away from the once simple life of teaching High School Chemistry and raising a family. There is no turning back for Walt and what is Walt's life worth now????????...what ever he makes it to be.

I'm not trying to be "holier than thou" by posting this...
But, used to think this quote:
" Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his brother..." ALWAYS meant, that you would DIE for someone else.
But, just recently realized, that it also included, giving up the life one would RATHER be living, to care for another human being.

There were times, that our lives mean NOTHING, to other people...
And then, there are times...our lives are priceless.

There's a long story behind my post, but don't have the time to go into it, at length, right now.
(Will elaborate more, when I've got the time.)

Walkercolt - Its all about FREEDOM - Think Braveheart & Spatacus! Hell William Tell was willing to risk killing his own son! Try knocking an Apple off your sons head with an arrow. On second thought, maybe you better practice first with your neighbor's kid.

"If a man hasn't found something to die for he isn't fit to live".

Hey Walkercolt, I don't consider Walt as evil incarnate by any means. There are those who are a lot more evil. I believe that I quetioned before what excactly the chemical reactions that were happening in his brain from the cancer to make him take such drastic measures to provide for his family when he was gone. Especially since he is a teacher of young kids who's brains are on hormone central and undeveloped anyway. He should know this being a high school chem teacher. How is it that he didn't inherently know that this is wrong? He's been a high school teacher for at least a decade or two. I'm sure that other than Jesse he's known children, and I consider high schooler's children whove been addicted to meth, heroin, coke and alcohol whove died of overdoses or not lived up to their potential. Shouldn't he as a teacher of children be in the opposite frame of mind to give up his life for the children he teaches as opposed to promoting their deaths through very dangerous addictions? As far as I've read and know people, Meth is the worst addiction in our time's. It take's no time for our human bodies to become addicted to it and is the hardest to come off of.
There's so much in this show to question.
Would all of the vets here, whom I certainly do respect and admire defend Walt's right as a high school teacher to do this just because he needs to defend and protect his family's financial well being when he die's?
If this were a real life situation where your kids were enrolled in a school and it was found out that a teacher was arrested for doing this, how would you react then? Would you personally take time to ask questions as to why the teacher was doing this in the first place? Particularly since it would have been a teacher that you'd probably had a teacher conference with about your son or daughter's progress in their class on Parent/Teacher day?
I'm not trying to talk at anyone. Nor play Devil's advocate this time.
Also I'm very happy to report that my Nephew Nick is the first on both side's of my family to graduate college with an English degree!!!! I couldn't be prouder! He made the Dean's List no less.
Tweeds

As for the price of my body, well I've already told my sis that when I die she can sell my body to the nearest school for the best price she can get for it. I think it varie's from school to school and what diseases and age's may be invlolved. I have the organ doner tag on my license, so whatever they can salvage is okay by me. I certainly hope that the rest will be turned to fertlizer and not Soylent Green! After all, there might be a Mad Cow issue there.

zia turned denial into an art form with true style, but that's good. Stick by your girl. However, nobody has a legal obligation to save another person's life. It's the right thing to do. It's the moral thing to do, but you can just stand there and watch it happen.

opngate got fatalistic on me. He's right, so he should know the price.

Hank Jr. was as crusty as a 30 year police sergeant who'd seen it all. He could run the city morgue with a smile.

Linda555 was poetic. And "yes", once a junkie - always a junkie. I wanted Jane to be a help to Jesse also, but didn't get it. The only thing that seems to snap a junkie out of their addiction is extreme pain. That's why I'm warning everyone about a detoxed, been-thru-hell Jesse for Season 3. Once you've beat the dope out of someone, they come out of it made out of stone. If he hits the streets straight, it's leg-breaking time for anybody who stands in the way. He's gonna want to share the pain.

R.W. is on fire. Anyone who can invoke the name of Spartacus either needs to be your ally, or you've got to watch him as a possible revolutionary. Hoping you're both.

tweeders1 is a riot. Girl, the "Mad Cow" line had me on the floor. OH NO! I read it again!!! LOL!

diksee went spiritual. I can't argue with that.

What a high quality group! Thanks for the top-notch feedback. I have noticed that nobody coughed up a dollar amount. Maybe we aren't for sale as long as we're breathing? Hmmm???

$$??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY&feature=related

"Hank JR, Hank JR who loved breaking bad" We'll try not to scatter your ashes in the Dudes face!

It's after 9:30PM here, time when we're all used to being entertained and challenged by "Breaking Bad." No wonder everybody's getting all testy. I'M just here to protest not being mentioned in WalkerColt's summation of this thread. Oh yeah, I didn't contribute to it, because I didn't quite understand it. But I do want to ask you, WalkerColt, is that a Walter White Sims or something in your avatar?

gracie - Always remember the "The Dude abides".

To rockmama, remember the little statue that the El Paso DEA agent gave Hank and told him, "Know thy enemy." That's my avatar. It's an image of Jesus Malverde ("Bad Green" in English).

Supposedly, he's the patron saint of drug dealers but the Catholic Church says he's a fictional character and not even known of except in tall tales. Still, people erect shrines to him along the U.S./Mexican border. He's catching on with Coyotes (who smuggle illegal immigrants into our country) and also with the illegals wanting a safe passage. His legend sounds a lot like Robin Hood and he was supposed to have been captured and executed in 1909 in the State of Sinaloa -- again no records, no testimony, no letters, no proof. I just thought he looked cool.

Walkercolt - "again no records, no testimony, no letters, no proof". So in that respect Jesus Malverde is like the "Chupacabra", an urban myth.

Yes, now I remember the little statue. But I probably won't be able to get it out of my head that it's Walt. Doesn't it sort of look like him? I was waiting for someone to come up with a Jesse avatar in the same style! LOL.

WalkerColt, reminds me of story of Joaquin Murrieta. He was a mexican bandit in central CA in the early days of CA statehood. He was captured and executed and his head was preserved and displayed for years. They still have a reenactment in the Panoche Creek area every year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joaquin_Murrieta

gracie - I remember seeing a show a very long time ago about Joaquin Murrieta, he was quite the bad ass Bandito. It was a show similar to California's gold with Huell Howser, but if I remember correctly, this was way before that. You must also reside in the PRoC? - People's Republic of California

Yep, I am a uncover insurgent behind enemy lines! Just this is the redneck portion of Kalifornia. My husband and I go off in the Panoche creek area quite often. There is an area you can 4 wheel in the winter, and you can go plinking out there too. Good clean redneck fun! One time we went out there and we found a sleeping bag, and a bunch of junk abandoned. We came up upon it quite carefully, fearing there might have been a body. It was just someones junk they threw out. It really is out in the middle of BFE.

gracie, educate an old-timer, how do you list a link in the comments so that it can be clicked on like you posted yesterday at 7:50PM? Thanks. By the way I've always loved the name Gracie ever since the old George Burns and Gracie Allen Show (I really am an old-time, except when it comes to Breaking Bad!).

gracie - Yeah I know the feeling, I'm residing in the badlands of the SouthBay, (Redondo Beach area). I'm surrounded by Prius driving Liberal Progressive types. The same kind that had Obama posters in their front windows. Now if you were to ask them who they voted for, they fall silent (well most of them). Its a shame, I was born and raised and have spent most of my life in California and have watched it turn into a Liberal crap hole. I better get off the site now, before I'm turned into the Government/Regime for none compliance. Adios

Be careful R.W. you might be placed on the "Enemy List" at the White House too! LOL

Congrats on the new avi, Linda555! We're both rocking the Cranston/Paul combo look. Shall we call your new creation "Walt Whiteman?" :-)

Thanks Rockmama...one of my creations I finally got it together...no pun intended..haha.. and yes..you like the double duo of Bryan and Jessie too. :))))

Linda - Not to worry. "I have not yet begun to Fight", I'm just getting warmed up!

Hank JR, I just copied and pasted the link. Click on the link in the address bar to highlight it, and right click on copy. You can then right click in the comments box on paste. This forum is apparently programmed to automatically recognize urls and format them accordingly. I'm not so good at HTML, I only know a few formating tricks, so I like it when the programmers make it easy for us to make our posts razzly dazzly.

Well being new to this forum, but definately not new to BB i just wanted to say hi to everyone here as a fellow fan/addict of breaking bad. My thoughts on a price for a life are that every individual is faced with many decisions during their life. Each decision takes you a diferent place. Sometimes the smallest decision is the biggest impact. One truly never knows what one will do until he/she is faced with that circumstance. I have gone through many diferent things in life and encountered many different types of people. I cant say that the words "once a junky, always a junky" are true for everyone. I have friends that beat their addictions, the main thing is having a reason to beat them. Walt's goals are very applaudable, while his methods are questionable, however he uses his knowledge and means to make good. I dont think you can put a price on a life, however remember that Walt does have an ending price and he is only half there. I cant come up with a dollar amount, but then again im not faced with the issues of Walt. Hopefully i will never have to.

"Well being new to this forum, but definitely not BB" - Tweeds the only person you're fooling is yourself. You Poor, Poor, Sick Delusional Fool.