Do we know when he's being Heisenberg and when he's being Walt? Does HE?!?
There was a scene in last night's encore showing of the episode, "Bit By a Dead Bee," that I didn't remember from the first time around. It's near the end, after Walt has gotten out of the hospital and he and Skyler are getting ready for bed. Walt puts on the
"Heisenberg hat," takes off his robe. amd jokingly asks Skyler if she needs anything from the convenience store ("A Big Gulp? Slim Jim?") It's a
cute scene, and Walt is obviously trying to defuse the tension that had been caused by his disappearnace.
But if confused me a little, because I had always associated that hat with Heisenberg; thought he wore the hat to get into the bad guy character, and that the hat had no place in Walt's life other than that. So, I'm wondering why the hat in that scene? And how much control does Walt even have over his Heisenberg alter ego?
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Thanks for pointing that out, rockmama! I remember that scene, but it did'nt dawn on me, about "The Hat"...
Maybe, he wanted to "get in the mood"? ;) Tee hee!
Seems like Skyler & "Walt-as-Heisenberg", had some really passionate scenes...Scorchers, actually! OOooOOO-wee!!
It must have been fairly mild, before then...remember in Season 1, the look of shock & suprise, on Skylers' face when Walt/Heisenberg climbed into bed with her?
And, she gasped, "Oh...Walt!! Is that YOU?!?"
The only time I remember him wearing the hat around Skyler before the "Big Gulp/Slim Jim" scene, was the famous green face cream scene, and, as much as we viewers enjoyed it, Skyler didn't seem too happy with his out-of-control advances THAT time. So choosing it as his one bit of attire in the scene last night (shall we call it the "BG/SJ" scene?) seemed a little odd.
LMAO!! Walt calling "it" a Slim Jim, certainly was'nt a very complimentary to himself, huh? (Ha ha ha...if THAT'S what he meant! =\ I dunno!)
Hmmmm...maybe I should have been posted this in Tweeds' "Various Names for Various Private Body-Parts" thread, instead? LOL!
BTW: Where has Tweeders been lately?? COME BACK! ALL IS FORGIVEN!!! =)
rockmama, as far as the "green-face-cream-slime-scene"...did'nt the both of us wonder...
Why did she stop him??? =\
(Disclaimer & the fine print...I do understand, it's because she realized, he was just using her, as an "object"...and, not as his wife/lover.)
Well...wait. I'm going to "crawfish" a bit, about my "Disclaimer".
I just re-read a little better, what you wrote earlier...
You're right, rockmama...the times before, when he got a little bit too "boisterous", she sure did'nt complain about it then.
So...I'm not sure WHY she stopped him, that time. =\
Another clarification -
In my last post I wasn't saying Walt was referring to "it" as a "Slim Jim" (although that meaning HAD occurred to me...as well as what he may have meant by "Big Gulp"). My "it" in that sentence referred to the SCENE ITSELF. I was offering the suggestion that in future posts the title of the "Big Gulp/Slim Jim" scene be shortened to the "BG/SJ scene." Of course, now THAT sounds even dirtier! LOL!
OMG!! rockmama, you're TOO freakin' FUNNY!!!
=D Ha ha ha!!!
Clarification to the Clarification, to the Disclaimer:
You were clear in what YOU meant...
*Sigh*
Leave it to Beaver...I, however, was the one to throw "it" in the gutter. ;)
Question: Is a "play on words", still considered "appropriate language"? =\
Oops. "The Question" asked, was'nt meant to sound smart-@ssed...it was legitimate!
Nor, did I mean to make a reference to the Bobbit case...
Please accept my apologies. =(
No worries, diksee! I left and came back to check this thread, hoping that I, rockmama, hadn't inadvertently said anything that could be misinterpreted as smart-assed! I guess we're all trying to be super-careful lately.
But one more silly, non-smart-assed quip before we abandon the "BG/SJ scene" subject:
Instead of risking upsetting Skyler with the Heisenberg hat, why didn't Walt just put on a sock (à la Red Hot Chili Peppers)?
Seems, in the past episodes, when Walt is overtly romantic and demanding of Skyler, such as the green face cream on the refrigerator scene, Walt was acting out all the hostilities and tension from dealing with Tuco, the meth making problems, he was the Heisenberg when away from home. Possibly ending one role of Heisenberg and then reverting back to mild mannered Walt is a difficult transition.
Sounds like you Ladies are having just a little bit too much fun with this Thread. :-) LMAO
How bout we just refer to this incident as the "Green Cream overture"? ;-)
Wait a minute, that sounds too much like the title of a soft porn flick. Damn, look what you've all made me go and do, my mind wandering and I have'nt even finished my second cup of coffee yet...;-)
I know I should stop with the silly jokes. There WAS a serious question in here somewhere, but I've gone off the path.
...But shouldn't there be a matching hat for...you know... "little Heisenberg?"
I like this question. I think Walt stopped being Walt and stopped being Heisenberg the day he sat on Hank's bed and gave him the pep talk. He really explained who he was and how he viewed life now that he was free of fear. At that moment, both the old Walt and Heisenberg die. We saw the birth of Walter! He has no use for the old Walt or the psudo Heisenberg anymore. He made that clear when he told those punks in the parking lot to "stay out of my territory!" He didn't need a name that night!!!!!!
That is a VERY interesting theory, bullieboi. Watching the reruns is proving to be quite the valuable exercise for putting things into perspective (as well as just plain enjoying the show all over again).
Can't a guy have some sex with his wife without being called overtly romantic,demanding of Skyler,acting out his hostilities. Or is more proper to initiate sex with a computer in one hand and Walters junior in the other.
Linda: It did seem at first, that Walt would become almost embarrassed of himself/his actions, as Heisenberg!
As time went on, his transitions seem to flow more smoothly...with less guilt each time.
Quotes By rockmama on September 1, 2009:
"why didn't Walt just put on a sock (à la Red Hot Chili Peppers)?
I'm beginning to STRONGLY suspect, we were twins separated at birth... =) LOL!
"...But shouldn't there be a matching hat for...you know... "little Heisenberg?"
Ahhhhh...indeed!! A "chapeau", made by Trojan, so to speak?? ;)
rockmama...PLEASE don't stop with your jokes!! We still need to "chili-pepper" in, some light-hearted fun, to balance out, our deeper discussions!!
Quote by R.W.:
"Wait a minute, that sounds too much like the title of a soft porn flick."
The "Green Cream Overture"??? Hmmmmmm.
OMG!! Yes!!
I remember THAT porno!! =O
But, unfortunately...turns out, the girl that starred in it, had Chlamydia. =\ Eek.
LOL!
repugnant...Nawww...makes for TOO many typo's...plus the keys tend to get stuck down, if "The End, that Justifies the Extreme" is not contained. ;)
Well...at least THAT'S what someone told me...or, maybe I heard it, on the evening news...or...or...ummm.
*In best Schultz's voice*
"I know NOTHING!! NO...NOTHING!!" ;)
BTW, bullieboi, very good observation!! It makes sense...he just "reacts" to the bad situations, now.
To get back, to the title question:
"Do we know when he's being Heisenberg...?"
When he's Heisenberg, he almost ALWAYS looks severly disgruntled...
In fact, I looked the word "disgruntled" up in the dictionary...and, there was a picture of a scowling man, next to the definition of the word.
Yep. That's him...it was Heisenberg, alright!
Ha ha...hah. ;)
repugnant, it's not that I'm passing judgment on Walt's seduction techniques or his desire to have sex with his wife. I'm just trying to figure out the significance of the Heisenberg hat to Walt. But if bullieboi's theory is correct, maybe the hat has lost or will lose its symbolic importance and become just a hat.
Yes, diksee, we definitely share a naughty streak!
(The use of bold type for posters' names would have been useful in this post, but I'm ashamed to admit I don't know how to use bold, italics or any other bells and whistles on here. A brief tutorial, someone)?
rockmama- sorry to distract from your thread, I should have directed my last post to Linda who again paints Skyler as a victim and Walter as a truly bad guy. Rock on mama. The hat thing is too deep for me.
Quote By repugnant on September 1, 2009 11:58 PM:
"The hat thing is too deep for me."
Soooo...are you saying, it's "over your head"?!?
LOL LOL LOL!!!
OK, OK...that was lame, of me! ;)
rockmama: A "Quickie" for you...
Before a word/name, you wish to accent:
First put an arrow that points left...(for some reason, it won't show up, in this post. =\ Hmmmm)
Its the one, situated on the same key, as your comma.
Then a letter
b
Follow that up with the arrow, that points
>
At the end, of the word/name:
You again, put another arrow, that points left
But, then you add a
/
Followed by a
b
Then another
>
If you want to use italics...
Then you replace the
b, with an
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You can practice, using your "Preview" button.
Now..."APPLY YOURSELF!!" Ha ha ha!
repugnant: Hope you realize, I was'nt trying to make fun of you... =(
Was just trying to have fun WITH you!!!
You do know, I love your witty replies!! =)
diksee- your cool, you cant offend somebody who is repugnant. Love the over my head comment and likewise it is enjoyable reading your comments as well as most of the others. This show has brought a lot of people who are from different spectrums of the universe and has connected us. Damn this is a good show, even the minor characters are developed like the lovers in the back of Walts room who spotted him in the car wash and made fun of him. Do you or anybody else feel that the curly haired sort of brainiac skinny kid who sits in the front row of the class will be a player in later series? Like a Jesse sub or replacement.
Oh...Walt!! Is that YOU
..gosh I go away for awhile and it gets all hot and steamy.
Just far is Clayton going to let this go?. ;)
Drats I missed Jesse here in SF
him and his GIRLFREIND where shoping up here at a store a friend works at.
Jesse and Harmony in SF? Harmony that young 20 something yoga Instructor from Serenity?
OK, let's see if I learned anything:
diksee, thanks for the info. on how to do bold type and italics!
And about that post in the blog section, asking editor Lynne Willingham essentially to "Show us the 'Slim Jim!"'....
Oh no, you ditn't!!!!!
LOL!!!!!
Quote By repugnant on September 2, 2009 8:15 PM
Love the over my head comment...
Thanks for over-looking my poor pun about the hat!! ;)
"This show has brought a lot of people who are from different spectrums of the universe and has connected us."
Agreed!
I've always been a bit curious, if they ever had a "meet & greet" for BB...before they handed out the name-tags...would we all naturally gravitate, to those we post the most back to? =\
rockmama: LOL! OOPS!! No..I dit'nt!
Well, it was NOT my intentions, to make it SOUND "that way", anyway!!
*blushes!*
(Really meant, our chances of seeing deleted scenes were prolly slim!)
But, guessing from the way my profile name is spelled...it COULD be taken "that way"... ;)
You're welcome about the "Quickie"! ;)
Quote By zia on September 2, 2009 8:43 PM:
"Just far is Clayton going to let this go?. ;)
Ha ha ha... ;) Hopefully we're making him LHAO?!? *crosses fingers*
"Drats I missed Jesse here in SF
him and his GIRLFREIND where shoping up here at a store a friend works at."
Too bad Zia! I feel for you!! Sorry you missed them!
BTW, R.W....I tried to get YOU to go, too...but, no...you HAD a water-heater to have to fix!
Ha ha ha!!! Juuuuuust KIDDING!
diksee - I've got a Brand new Noritz tankless unit now, mounted outside of the house. Went one step further and added a Halo water softener, so now I have soft filtered water throughout the entire house. Will have to catch up with Jesse and his Girlfriend at the Emmy Awards after party. :-)
R.W.: So, now you & "your little woman", can take l-o-n-g, luxurious showers, without running out of the hot water???
Ummmmm...
*whispers* Can we watch? KIDDING AGAIN!!
Sorry folks, the Full Moon is coming up again, ya'll...
Are we going to see a repeat, of everybody acting up here, like the last one? ;)
diksee, I hope you know I was joking about
requesting outtakes of the "Slim Jim." Well, sort of ;-) But deleted scenes really would be quite welcome.
R.W., did you have to replace your water heater due to ROT?!?!? (Walt ranting about rot is still one of my all-time favorite "BB" scenes).
rockmama - No fortunately there was no rot involved, there was a little mildew building, but I caught that in time. Now I have an empty cabinet which I'm in the process of converting into a new closet space.
diksee - Why you Frisky little Weasel you. I'm surprised that you did'nt notice my new avatar.
On those long luxurious showers, we do have a water shortage out here in So.Cal, so the showers are'nt so long. I can report that the water does feel different now after being used to the standard hard water we have out here.
He is always the same guy that uses the same rationalzation when he makes decisions he only uses the name Heizenburg to try to keep his drug business from raching him at his house. As he learned the name did not stop Tuco from picking him up at his house. When Walt choked that guy with the motor cycle Lock and got rid of the body with hydrocloric acid, he only did it because he knew there was no way he could let the guy go and be safe because the guy had a broken plate in his pocket and was obviuosly going to use it on Walt as soon as the guy was freed from the post. If walt were a different guy he would of killed the dude with no thought of letting him go because that guy was going to kill Walt and Jesse.
kevin o, that makes a lot of sense. I was so sure there was some kind of Walt/Heisenberg split personality thing going on, I hadn't really considered that maybe the hat was always just...a hat. Hmmm.
As it turns out, Walt was lucky he killed Crazy Eight(the second time he tried). Walt was afraid that Crazy Eight would kill him, but as it turns out, Crazy Eight was a DEA informant. When Hank has a briefing with his staff, he posts a picture of Crazy Eight and his cousin Emilio. He states “they are missing but their car has been found.” Then, he says that Crazy Eight was working with the DEA as an informant. Walt sealed his fate of being bound for Hell when he killed those two guys. But he also ironically dodged a deadly bullet. Great Show!!!!
Also Keven O,
Not to be picky but, "and got rid of the body with hydrocloric acid," it was Fluoboric Acid(Tetrafluoroborate).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoboric_Acid
Hydrochloric Acid would have dissolved the tubs used for the disposal of Crazy Eight's body.
R.W.: Yayyy! A weasel!! =) Dang, but the pic is too small, (even on your profile page) that I can't make out, what it's about..
What's your new avatar stand for?
rockmama: Yeppers, I knew you were just teasing me!! Hee hee hee! ;)
Wow, your thread is really getting a lot of traffic! Thanks for posting it! =)
bullieboi: Thanks for pointed that out, about Crazy 8, being an informant...I must have been in a "fugue state" & missed that line!! ;)
Puts a whole 'nother perspective, on his character!
Remember when Walt went over to Jesse's house and saw Crazy Eight running down the street. He tried to get Crazy Eight to get in his car but when he saw Walt, he tried to run. He ran into a tree and knocked himself out. Then Walt loaded him up and took him back to Jesse's. Talk about shades of Jeffrey Dahmer!!! Is that an example of another personality for Walt?
diksee - That is the official symbol of the USAF's "Wild Weasel". Yes there are flying Weasels! The Wild Weasels date back to the Vietnam war. There is quite a fabled history behind them...
"Jeffery Dahmer"? I smell a Big Fat Trailer dwelling RAT here...
CAVE PUTORIUM...
Did you mean " Cave Plutonium" In Greek it mean "the place of Pluto", or the cave where Pluto is". But I am not sure I understand your meaning...
Did you mean " Cave Plutonium"? In Greek it means "the place of Pluto", or "the cave where Pluto is". But I am not sure I understand your meaning...
AhhhHHHhhhh HAH!! Just Googled it & it means:
"Beware the Weasel!!" =D (Especially when it comes to defending, the folks I like! ;) But THEIR real cause, was FAR more noble, than mine!)
LMAO, R.W.! Love your new avatar!! Love it!
And, yeah, bullieboi, when Crazy 8 hit that tree...was it just me...or, did you hear a "doink!", too?? =\
Ha ha!
Didn't want to start a new thread for this, but I saw The Hankster (Dean Norris) in a movie on TV last night, "American Gun." Recognized his voice even before they showed his face!
Maybe I SHOULD have started a new thread about seeing "BB" actors in other roles! Because now I'm going to mention ordering the movie "Last House on the Left" from On Demand about a week ago - a movie in which Aaron Paul's character does some bad things and has some REAL bad things done to HIM.
Why is the theme from "True Blood" going through my head right now? Heh, heh, heh.
WOW, beware the Weasel. Very Cool R.W.l!!!!
CAVE PUTORIUM...
"Very Cool R.W.!!!!". I know, therefore I am. ;-)
Silly synchronicity to the debut of the "Warring Weasels" logo: Today in my favorite newspaper comic, "Get Fuzzy," there is a "Batle Ferrets" storyline. Same family of animals.
And, just to tie it in with "Breaking Bad," the badger is part of that family, too.
WHAT IN THE WORLD?!?
What is my crazy cat, doing in both Zias' & now bullieboi's avatars??? =\ LOL!
Yep...R.W. is just cool like that... =) Looks like he's kinda started a Ferret Frenzy around here! Ha ha ha!
LMAO, rockmama!! I'll have to go check that comic out!!
BTW...your idea of a thread, where we've seen our favorite BB Stars, in other shows/movies, sounds like a good idea!!
Rockmama- 2nd diksees suggestion that you start a thread about other things BB characters can be seen in. We are getting desperate to keep conected to these people with such a long lapse in new shows. Like the actor that plays Skinney Pete, was this guy pulled out of the alleys of LA or did he have a prior acting life.
"By bullieboi on September 4, 2009 10:36 PM
Also Keven O,
Not to be picky but, "and got rid of the body with hydrocloric acid," it was Fluoboric Acid(Tetrafluoroborate).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoboric_Acid
Hydrochloric Acid would have dissolved the tubs used for the disposal of Crazy Eight's body. "
Actually they used Hydrofluoric acid, which is a chemical used to etch glass and is stored in plastic containers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluoric_acid
I don't think Walt has much control of his Heisenburg alter ego. In reality he has always tried to do the right thing in regards to his work, family and life but with the stress of life and getting the shitty end of the stick all the time, Walt's Heisenburg alter ego had started developing long before he even started his life of crime. Normal stresses of life and unforseen circumstances can harden the softest of hearts. I can't wait for Walt to be backed into a corner and watch his true personality react. Walt, Heisenburg, whatever name he goes by at the time makes no difference because he is still just one man trying to cope with life's shitty circumstances.
Is it possible to send private messages to the producers, actors or others associated with BB?