Well the writers and actors need to catch their breath, and have a vacation. LOL. Usual wait on AMC between seasons is about 9-10 months.

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9-10 months.....that's gonna kill me.

What was killing me was Jane having a popsicle at Jesse's place. It hurt so to watch.

LOL - is there anything we can do? Do I need to send over a truckload of popsicles, a blow-up doll and some videos?

hsjpatman You might console yourself by watching the new season of MadMen later this year or the miniseries The Prisoner. You might like The Prisoner more, it's contemporary (I think), and not a period piece like MadMen.

No jamm54 -LMAO- I don't need any of that stuff, but I'll bet I'm not the only guy watching that had the same thoughts I did during that scene!

What's really killing me is that all the different humdrum activity in the past couple of episodes is leading up to something really wild that's gonna take place in the upcoming final three that will most likely blow the freaking socks off of everybody! All of these new characters that have been recently added (Saul, Jane and her Dad, Ted, etc.) are there for a reason, and will play a big part as it comes together. My only hope is that after the final episode of this season we aren't left hanging TOO badly in anticipation for season 3.

A lot of people making posts are throwing out their predictions on who the two people are zipped up in those body bags, myself included. But one of the cool things about this show is the unpredictability of everything happening in it! That's why it is so good, and why so many people love it so much! Whoever is in those body bags will be somebody that nobody will ever expect to be!

I hope they at least run a whole marathon of Season 2 at least once before they sign off for the year. Or rerun Season 2 weekly until MadMen comes on in August.

Yes, I couldn't resist responding to your "longing", and I'm sure you weren't the only man out there paying attention to Jane. LOL

The guessing games we play every week is pretty fun, even though it drives some people wild (why can't you just enjoy and watch it instead of analyzing it, blah, blah, blah - well because everybody loves a mystery coming to this site, and we're all curious. Part of what we do every week on the forum builds the suspense even more! I enjoy it, and I think it shows that the series writers are doing a great job!

And that indeed they are! It's gotta be a tough job thinking what you're gonna have for twists and turns not only for this season, but for season 3, or maybe even season 4 if it goes that far! I can't even begin to imagine that it won't, but boy if it doesn't you'll see a big increases in swan dives off of tall buildings! Ha! Ha!

I'd like to see another marathon of Season 1. I didn't get to see all of them when they first aired, and didn't have a DVR yet, and I totally forgot about and missed the Season 1 marathon they showed before this Season 2 started. And the only place around here that I think sells the Season 1 box set is WalMart, and I refuse to set foot in there. I'm pretty sure they will probably show all of this season's episodes again.

I was surprised that Blockbuster Video didn't carry Breaking Bad in their television section for rental (at least the one I went to in Seattle). I'm pretty sure they had MadMen when it first came out for rental. Though I broke down and bought both first seasons of Breaking Bad and MadMen. Maybe they'll do a marathon of Seasons 1 & 2 for both series this summer.

I think they'll probably make it to 5 seasons. If it's 4 seasons it would be about 46 hours, and 5 seasons would be about 59-60 hours. Plenty of hours to tell the complete story of the fall and destruction of Walt White, and the sidestories of the rest of the characters.

That's pretty crazy to think about - "The fall and destruction of Walt White". I mean, look how far that guy has gone down since the beginning, and how fast it's happened (I know it's all in TV time). But still, after a series of events and Walt pretty much is a hardened criminal. look at the way he approached those two meth cooker wannabes in the builder supply parking lot and confronted them, showing what balls he has grown and with no weapons or anything! The old Walt would've NEVER done that. Shit, he'd hide in the store till they were gone. Didn't the way those two guys acted eerily seem like how Walt and Jesse were in the beginning, scared shitless in their actions?

Yes, I really enjoyed that confrontation between Heisenberg and the wannabe cooks because it showed how really clueless and ad hoc most of the meth scene is. It's like moonshining and bathtub gin production during Prohib- everyone wanted to get in on the act and make a bunch of money, even if they didn't know what the hell they were making, chemistry-wise. Of course, the other end of the extreme is really powerful pure stuff being made in labs by the Government, like Der 3rd Reich for Blitzkreig purposes. Speed kills. Drink tea and listen to Motorhead instead!

Another take on the Heisenberg transformation- now that he isn't CERTAIN he's going to die real soon, he has to prove to himself that all that brass wasn't just desperation. The very last thing he wants to do is go back to being good ole Walt the door-mat. He'd rather die- quickly or slowly- than be a "good little man". Power- the most addictive drug in the human Pharmacopea.
I AM HEISENBERG- Stay out of my territory.

What really creeps me out lately (like in this last episode) is when Heisenberg would come out, whatever he'd do or say, afterward there'd be just a hint of a imperceptible smile. Watch "Over" again, you can see it after the Walt-Hank confrontation when Walt sits down again, and in the parking lot when he tells those two guys to vamoose. The camera lingers on Walt's face afterward in both scenes, and the wisp of a smile is so slight on his mouth, but he's loving it! Creepy.

bfn Besides Walt's self-destruction, to nail home the horrific consequences of his actions, they'll have to show the effects of his choices on the surrounding characters. Surely, what Walt ends up doing is going to end up destroying the lives of those closest to him or directly involved with him, don't you think? My one hope is that Jesse will be the exception, but unfortunately, he's like Der Fuhrer's best pal or henchman, and doesn't see that Walt is turning bad or that his heart is going sour, so I suppose he'll have to go down with him. But, I still have hope Jesse or someone else Jesse becomes close to will save him - yep, I'm that naively hopeful.

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Where it's really going to get creepy is when Walt/Heisenberg not only relishes feeling his power to intimidate, but takes it a step further into enjoying the use of force and cruelty to feed his power needs.

Walt/Heisenberg is satisfied right now to get his high from standing up to people, but like anything, those actions eventually will level out and not bring him the emotional high of power he enjoys feeling. . He'll have to go to another level to get that emotional high - and next could be brutality, force or killing.

I get what you mean jamm54 - It's sort of like he does all this subtle stuff to keep proving it to himself "I AM Heisenberg! I AM!" And like you indicated, there will come a point where this subtle little stuff that he's doing will no longer provide him with that rush, and will resort to bigger and badder things to get it.

Exactly how people get hooked on to drugs.

The really bad thing is that Walt doesn't have a care in the world who or what this newfound behavior affects. I mean, he had total disregard for the whole houseful of their closest family and friends for the party that was intended to thank all of them for their kindness and support. I guess they won't be so kind and supporting anymore! And by the by, are we to assume that Skyler contacted Gretchen and Elliot to invite them to the party, and they declined? WoooW! Could you imagine if they decided to show up? Walt would probably throw both of them into the pool with Walt Jr.'s tequila puke in it and all!

I think what's so sad about Walt is that he doesn't truly appreciate or accept how much people liked and loved him, the person he was. He's just not even taking that in. All he's focused on is that he was inadequate on a personality/being level (fearful), and a financial failure for not being brave enough to take his chemical genius and talents all the way to the top in the scientific/business world.

The truth is, Walt's personal weaknesses/flaws did hold him back in career achievement for his level of scientific intelligence, but he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Walt has no appreciation for his other qualities: responsible, caring, decent, loving, kind; a good father, husband, teacher, citizen. Walt did not love or value himself.

At the end of your life, when you're dying, it's not your achievements or ownership of things that will matter. When you're just about to exit this life, no one truly gives a shit about that on their deathbed. It's who you loved, who loved you, and that you are at peace with yourself as a human being. And, that you've made any amends that you can for the hurt or damage you may have caused others in this life, and can forgive yourself.

I can't believe Walt is so twisted that he doesn't and didn't understand this when he was given his terminal diagnosis at 50. It's like he completely rejected everything about himself in the process of his goal to ensure financial security for his family. Noble idea, now completely on the back burner of his thinking.

Another thing I don't understand is if he's acting now like the big, bad, fearless "Heisenberg", and messing with everybody's head, why the hell was he laying in the RV out in the desert with Jesse saying "I deserve all of this", "I brought all this onto myself", when he didn't have to! Nobody put a gun to his head and told him to manufacture Meth (Well, Tuco almost did!)!

Remember, at that point he figured he had run out of time to achieve his financial goal.

An accidental early demise (dying in the desert) would've prevented him from achieving that.

I think he was lamenting dying too soon in the desert without having done what he set out to do (amassing the $757,000).

It was so sort of like a Murphy's Law rumination - "Whatever I set to do, I just can't win - I screw it up" kind of self-reproach. He's trying to do something, and instead he doesn't achieve it; is causing his own and Jesse's premature death unnecessarily; leaving him family to pretty much find him and his activities out if he dies there by accident. He's a fuck up, and he knows it. Fits in very well with Walt's lack of self-love.

You mean $737,000? Sorry that wasn't nice! You're probably there "Allright asshole, so I goofed! Shaddup!"

You are absolutely correct in saying Walt is basically a fuck up. I would love to know what really held him back from having a really prosperous career in chemistry or science or whatever, cosidering what a huge genious he is. Why didn't he get hot on Elliot's ass for patent rights and compensation for whatever it was he discovered? Maybe someday we'll know.

LOL - no, I'm not. I'm the one who always feels guilty and will apologize quickly....LOL. I should've been Catholic for my sense of guilt and wrongness. Good thing I've never been accused of a crime, I would've figured what did I do wrong? and probably confessed, having absolutely NOTHING to do with it. LOL

I think Walt has very low self-esteem and a pretty good internal critical voice of chastisement going on. I don't deserve good - I deserve to be punished. Would love to meet the mother - I'm sure that's a big black hole of rejection and criticism. He didn't tell his mother he's dying? You fill in the blanks.....

Walt and Jesse share quite few personality/life similarities, really.

Both intelligent; not so hot on common sense; self-worth issues; in essense both low achievers for all their smarts; lost potential; victims of their mothers; detached home family issues; maybe not very strong father/male figures in the family; non-athletes; quiet types who aren't physically imposing or macho men.

Also, bfn, Walt's been given a reprieve with the remission. He's got more time now to finish the goal (don't know how valid that is anymore), and enjoy being and feeling "powerful" aka Heisenberg. That's why he's on a mini-high right - more time to be Heisenberg!

Color me crazy, but it almost seems that Walt is bummed out that his cancer is in remission! For once in his pathetic life, he has a plan, and that plan was to get all this money earned to provide for his family after he's dead. So basically he's talked himself into thinking he and everybody else will be better off after he's gone. And also, he was probably thinking the nicest thing is going to be that since he'll be dead, he won't be around to have to face any of the consequences that usually come with being a big time drug dealer, such as getting busted, going to prison, etc. All of that plotting and planning, losing money here and there on this and that, and most of that other shit he had to go through was pretty much all for naught as soon as that Oncologist told him that his tumor shrunk by 80%. It was a pretty good act he had to put on in front of his family that he was overjoyed at this news, but in reality he probably wanted to choke that Doctor! All of this indicates the biggest reason he beat up the towel dispenser.

But as you said, since now he's gonna be around a while longer, and jumped through all those hoops with all those situations, he feels he's earned his stripes as Heisenberg, and by damn he's gonna play the part to it's fullest while he's still alive and kicking, and nobody's gonna tell him he can't!

The cancer was Walt's Get Out of Jail Free Card which he felt excused him from any societal or moral limitations. Faulty thinking to begin with, but now he can't even play that card with himself for justification of what he's done. Now, I think it's evolved into "I'm damned - might as well follow this path to end."

He can't change the past or atone for what he's done. Now he's making the choice for his needs. It was like you said bfn, all the earmarks for the road to addiction. He's addicted, not to any drug, but to Heisenberg and power.

You weren't crazy - Walt was bummed by the good news.

And another thing along these lines comes to mind. When he approached the two guys in the parking lot, he wasn't worried about one of them pulling out a gun and killing him. He had just spent how many months preparing himself mentally for his death, and now since that's been postponed, he didn't care one way or the other if these guys would waste him or not. In fact, it would fulfill his plan if they did.

Good call, bigfreakinnaz (I figured I should be polite and write out your whole name once-in-a-while). Maybe that is how Walt's feeling. Walt sure knows he's doomed anyway in so many ways (morally, spiritually, legally) when he's still thinking like Walt, that probably being killed by two thugs on the street would've been a blessing if the cancer's not going to take him as soon as he thought.

The odds are really stacked against Walt, now, in getting caught before the cancer kills him, I think.

You brought up another good point jamm54! He was probably mad at himself (especially when he was punching the towel dispenser) because now that he found out that his cancer's in remission, he knew his odds just went up in a big way that he could get caught and be accountable for his actions. Him dying, of course, was the only reason he "Broke Bad" in the first place, and was counting on nobody figuring out what he did to earn all that money till he was 6 feet under.

it actully took around a good year for season 2 to come out i wish i could see season 3 right after season 2 but people have to first make the episode which takes over half a year im guessing to do a season anyway a year is fine with me i would rather have something to look foward to next year then thinking of something that looks interesting to see

jamm54..the new Prisoner series is just a remake of the classic Prisoner series that was made back the 1960's. A good series back then......was a smash hit, but not so sure they can remake a classic such as that one. The successfulness of Breaking Bad is that it is ORIGINAL and not a blasted remake of someone else's work and is one good reason why I dearly love the series of Breaking Bad..its an original! Mad Men is so-so if you enjoy cheesy 1950's office style gossip and underhanded business deals. Personally, I found it boring as hell like a daytime soap opera with lots of men fouling up their lives over little deals here and there, catty women in tight straight skirts fighting over who gets to be the exec's secretary...blah blah blah...but to each his own on what is on AMC. Breaking Bad just came out like fire works, first episode and I never stopped watching it...it was so new and refreshing than the re-makes, badly scripted sitcoms and poker game shows.

Lindas555 It's funny, I started watching MadMen first, and was really taken with the first season. I wasn't as enthralled with their second season, even though I hung in there. I'm not even going to be around when Season 3 starts. It's pretty good, but very very slow. I missed the cockiness and joy that was inherent in Season 1. Season 2 did a complete right turn into depressing angst for 12 episodes, so.....

When Breaking Bad debuted in 2008, I tried to watch it, but couldn't focus (too many personal responsibilities to handle at the time). This year, I sat down and watched Breaking Bad's Season 1 just before Season 2 started. I found the story of Walt and Jesse absolutely riveting, and the extremes and consequences of theirs actions/behavior fascinating. Season 2 kept it up, so it'll be interesting to see how their momentum translates in their third season. Plus, I do like Vince Gilligan's writing.