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Season 2 Episode 9 - Open Thread

Talk about Episode 9, "4 Days Out."

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Make hay while the sun is still shining!

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I love the food........funyuns and gummi bears!

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You brought a meth lab to the airport?

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Layered like nachos, yo!

Positive. Negative.

Just like the fact that they made all that meth, but now are stuck. I friggin love it!

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I 'll never eat Cap'n Crunch with Crunch Berries ever again without thinking about that HOT Jane!!

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Wonder if Heisenberg could chemically extract the water from his urine.

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The battery was charged up, the engine turned over fast. It stalled and the battery was dead, That's not right!

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Anyone feeling creeped out watching this?

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I never heard of a vehicle going dead just by putting the key in the ignition. C'mon.

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The reverse of the puffer fush!

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I just wanna start by saying I Fucking love this show!! and i haven't felt for characters on a show this much since Lost. Especially this episode I was right there with them wishing that goddamn engine would start! great stuff keep it coming AMC

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He got it backwards. The current flows out of the anode, not the cathode.

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your wrong, Source A cathode is an electrode through which (positive) electric current flows out of a polarized electrical device. Mnemonic: CCD (Cathode Current Departs). From an electrochemical point of view, positive...

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I knew he'd go into remission..........hahaha the preview for next weeks looked wild!

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A galvanic anode is negative. An electrolytic anode is positive. We're both right.

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The whole of the episode is that the trio, Walt, Jesse and now Saul are components of a battery.

Walt is the cathode, Jesse is the anode and Saul is the electrolyte.

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What great acting by everybody..but Jesse really kicked ass!!!

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Another incredible show !!!!!!!!

I love this show man...

I like Rocknar's comments.... Walt, Jesse and Saul are components of a battery...

good call man!

Also, anyone notice all the references to water in this one?

Water was the first shot... then they lose their water in the desert... and a shot of water at the end, right before Walt starts punching the paper towel dispenser.
So what's that all about? Perhaps that water is essential to life? A battery contains water?
Also, how about Walt losing his shit at the end?
Is it because he feels angry b/c he knows he's going to live, and he felt more alive when he thought he was going to die?
I was considering it might be b/c he was angry at himself for going through all of that, when he was really not going to die...
but I don't think that's it. I think that he felt more alive when he thought he might die... and now he's angry about not feeling that way anymore.
Or... perhaps both reasons.
F++cking awesome show!!!!!!!!
Keep up the good work guys!!!
Shows that make you think are the best!

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I swear I was getting emotional this episode. He goes into remission and goes nuts. What's going through his mind?

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Sad, yet probably prophetic, when Walt goes to launder his money with Saul and all the money he has is 16grand (and he only ends up with 9!!). There is a life lesson here - doing bad, even when for a good cause, will not be rewarded...

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The central element of the episode was death. Or, rather facing death. Methylamine doesn't spoil...that was a clue.

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I loved it that Jesse couldn't win for trying today. First the keys, then the generator, then the water thing, then the motor dies again, the cell phone quits, the lamp goes dead, it just kept going on, and on. Comedic. The whole thing with Skinny Pete getting lost was predictable = the guy can't spell street and you expect him to find his way out of his neighbourhood? I loved the aluminum foil antena on the cell phone in the shape of ET's finger - had me splitting my gut!!! And the can you hear me now bit ROFL.
I really thought Jesse was going to call Jane to bail them out but I guess it's still too early for that. And she's looking for commitment from him, to "go places" from a girl who doesn't want commitment. Nice.
I'm disappointed in the writers giving Walt the remission "off the hook". It's just too "Dallas-Bobby's dream" style. C'mon, 80% reduction in an inoperable, terminal tumor? Either this doctor is a con, just taking his money (could be a good storyline) or the writers are sacrificing content in order to keep the show going longer. Disappointing.

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There gotta be a Denny's, out here some where.

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When you're stuck in the desert
And you got no juice
Who you gonna call?
SKINNY PETE!!

Say what!?

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anyone know who sang that song in the opening, lyrics were something like "the war is over the fight is done we'll be laying in the sun"?

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Does anyone know the name of the songs in this episode. There was some great music in the episode. Im still crossing my fingers hoping they dont drag this out further then it needs to be all great things come to an end.

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Sorry folks, but I don't think this was exactly the best of the episodes. Way too much time spent on our heroes stuck with the dead battery - that ate up most of the show!

Skinny Pete's still out there looking for them. Somewhere near the river most likely.

I'm gonna have to get a new TV - Janes hot body burned a hole right through the screen!

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black seeds , one by one is the song br8kinb4d

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Walts mad at himself for making the drugs and that is why he gets pissed off, I think.

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ha i knew that was bret from flight of the conchords singing, threw me off that there were no puns in the song tho, thanks arobot

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I thought for sure they were going to call the lawyer.
He may be a sleeze and all, but at least he would know how to use a map! Though-- I guess the point of the episode was the desperate situation they had stumbled into and the way Walt "McGyvered" his way out of it.

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tj, I stayed in a hospital for years with my son before he died and I know that people react differently to kinds of treatment. One doctor can tell you that you will die this week and another can tell you that you may last years. Some are right and some are wrong and a few are right on target. It's a roll of the dice, man.

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laz3000 That's so sad, about your son...Hugs to you, his Mama & your families... =(

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http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-04-30-aaron-paul_N.htm

I was surfing around looking for fresh interviews by the show's creator, Vince Gilligan (type him in google, click on news) but I found this interesting little bit on the actor who plays Jesse-- enjoy!

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Did anyone else see the eerie parallel from the way Walt beat on that paper towel dispenser to the scene where Tuco pummeled that poor guy in the wreck lot? When Walt looked back at the dispenser, his reflection was distoryed -- he's changed inside. Also, I politely disagree that the good medical news takes away the driving force of the show. That was the instigator that got the story going, but it's a straight plot line of just Walt cookin' cuz Walt's dyin'. This shows the confidence of the writers that where the show goes from here will be powered by the characters and the story. I loved Marie lecturing everyone in the waiting room on how much doctors need input from the medical techs. And the scene where Walt's flawed family gather round at the results conference to offer support -- despite all their dynfunctionalities -- was genuinely touching. Poor Walt - he's going to find that even if he is tempted to get out of the game now, it won't be that easy.

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great episode! does anyone know the song that was playing when they were driving in the open field?

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I have to say, I saw the make a battery coming early.

Realistically, you don't go out in the high desert here with out more than ample supplies. Not like they wouldn't of driven by a dozen All-Sups on the way. They both have lived out in NM long enough to know better than that.

How long was it before they rigged some shade? Again that the first thing they would of done.

They got kind of Hollywood on this one. Though I did like the tender moments between Jesse & Walt.

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Loved the episode tonight. I've never felt so close to any TV characters before, and I was pulling for them to find a way out of that death trap somehow. As soon as Jesse threw the water on the flaming generator I screamed "You idiot!"

As far as Walt punching the hell out of the towel dispenser at the end, I think I have a good idea of what that's all about. When Walt looks at himself in the reflection, he sees who he has to be again - the man we met in the pilot. I think he likes Heisenberg more than he likes Walter White, and the remission of his cancer means that Heisenberg has to go.

Or does he?

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diksee, thanks.

I don't know why, but a second viewing just showed me a few themes in this episode. The water theme, which I see was stated earlier. Water is a necessary part of life. The body is 80% water. The tumor shrunk by 80%. You can see your reflection in water and you can dehydrate and die without it. Radiation contaminates the body. Walt seen his reflection and pummeled it.

I don't know. This episode wasn't here to make us laugh or gasp or watch as some drug dealer tries to make a move... it was here to remind us that this could happen in real life. Real life is unpredictable, but our man Walt came prepared. He is ready. I want to see where he goes from here.

Both actors turned in a magnificent performance. Aaron Paul was breaking it down like he had something to prove and Cranston was bitter and whining one minute and terrifying the crap out of you at the end. Man, they blew my mind this episode. It wasn't all hype. It was like a one act stage play. Brilliant acting. Superb. Editing was awesome, too. The traveling montage was fun and the music was unique. Flawless.

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"Yo, you gotta build somethin scientific". A Robot - Jesse is so Insane....

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Walt has already tasted the forbidden fruit, albeit for "noble" reasons. Nevertheless, as foretold by Los Cuates de Sinaola, there's a hell of a reckoning down the road for him.

Loved this episode--my wife is already calling it "Mesa Barrens".

Great show--great forum (laz3000 is the BB guru). Glad to be here.

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My cat just knocked over his plastic bowl of water.

And now he's looking at me like Jesse.

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Great episode tonight. The dialogue between Walt and Jesse was Great. Jesse was Incredibly funny, in his usual way. The Poor guy just cannot get anything right. Jesse does have a Heart though, its very apparent that he cares about Walt's condition and respects Walt for trying to take care of his Family financially. So Major Props to Jesse...

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Oh, and the best line of the episode:

"A robot?"

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This is my first time to post here so let me start by saying “how ya doin.”
I think this show is probably one of the best dramas on TV today. Although it certainly deserves to be on primetime, I hope it never is because they would seriously have to change things to do so.
That being said I want to state some things right of the bat so you know where I’m coming from. First, Jane is one serious fox. I don’t care if that is sexist or whatever but I believe when a man thinks a woman is beautiful, he should have no hesitation in saying so. I am a man, that’s what we do. Second, of all the characters in this show, my heart really goes out to Hank. I mean he has to put his life on the line almost daily and for a mere pittance compared to the people he has to take down. As if that’s not bad enough, I don’t know how in the world he puts up with his wife. If I was him, I would have packed up and left or maybe shot her by now. Third, I like Jessie but lets all face it, the boy needs to become a man and grow some balls. Having dabbled in the business myself for a while you realize that in order to make some serious money, you have to sell in quantity. And that means you have to trust people to pay you back. If they don’t, then you have to make an example of them. It’s the reason I got out of the biz. Small time is not worth the risks, and big time means you have to become an asshole. It is a no win situation in a way.
However, the reason I decide to chat with all of you is I think you got the ending all wrong. The reason Walt punched out the image in the towel dispenser is that he couldn’t believe he could be so stupid. I mean throughout the entire episode he constantly made comments on how stupid Jessie was and how his incompetence got them stuck in the middle of the dessert. When they didn’t have to be there if Walt didn’t think he was smarter than he really is.
He calls himself Heisenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg) after one of the physicists who came up with the idea of quantum physics. Walt thinks he is just as smart and glances over at the MRI image and sees this giant spot on his lungs and thinks that he only has a couple weeks or days before he’s gone. When actually he didn’t have the knowledge to read the results or even his medical history to make an informed decision. He did something stupid and just assumed it was bad because of the spot he saw. If he had only waited to hear from the doctor, instead of coming to his own conclusions, he wouldn’t have spent 4 days in the desert, damn near dying, just to cook up some meth that will probably take them a year to sell (especially at the price they’re charging). In retrospect Walt realized how stupid he was (what he constantly told Jessie) and that, had he only waited for the results of his test, none of it would have happened.

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I've been following this series from the beginning and I have to say tonight's episode was one of the best. I loved the way Walt gave in and did some "male bonding" with Jesse with a high five and a roar! Call me ultra-sensitive, but when they got the test results, I got a bit misty. What can I say? I love these characters. When the hell is Skylar going to have that damned baby??? Can't wait for next week (I can't bring myself to view the sneak peek... I love the anticipation). 'Night all!

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Remission! you knew it would have to happen, how else would this all keep going ...but now what? and damn how many months is skylar? it feels like too long! to cook or not to cook!?

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this episode my jaw was droped to the floor the whole episode i meen it was amazing in so many ways in a way im glad walter will live longer but in a way thats also bad for him and seeing next week preview in getting kinda nervous

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Wolfgang,

Loved your post. That makes the most sense about Walt punching the towel dispenser.

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Pinkman is just TOO funny!
Cranston is a GEM!
Great acting.

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Wolfgang, Well thought out! Thanks.

And to prove just how sheltered and boring a life Walt has led, and just how much of a stick in the mud he is:

Who says Marijuana and Masturbation don't make for a hell of an evening?

Dude doesn't appreciate the finer things in life :-)

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"what are we building......." "you said it yourself" ".......a robot?"

hahahahahahah too friggin hilarious!

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"And what element are we going to use to conduct the current, hmmm, hmmm?" "Ahhh, wire hehe." Freakin' hilarious.

I had the same thought as wolfgang when the doctor said Walt had 80% reduction of his tumor. I would have been so pissed at myself for going through that adventure for no good reason.

Jesse was an idiot in this episode. As much as I like him, I thought some of the things Walt said to him about his lack of intelligence were mild compared to what he deserved. Kind of like Andy and Barney. I mean nobody is that dumb, are they?

I'm no engineer, but is it possible to jump an automotive battery off of a generator? You can't just plug an extension cord into your car to start it when the battery is dead. Wouldn't the 110 fry the RV's electrical system? Maybe a blessing the generator caught on fire.

Blah, blah, blah. Great show. The twists and turns are so unpredictable.

And I am a member of the "Jane is hot" club.

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Ya, when Jesse said " A ROBOT" i was laughing so hard i was crying!! Best show on TV. Keep up the great work AMC!!

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Boy, wolfgang, you got it right about Walt's stupidity. Walt does constantly judge Jesse's intelligence, decisions, actions, but he came close to killing both of them with another of his own spontaneous, not-very-well-thought-out decisions (the 4-day cookout) based on an assumption. Your opinion fits with his raging fistfest at his reflection in the dispenser. Walt doesn't have a lot of tolerance for ignorance.

I just kind of had a sick feeling when the remission was revealed. I've always assumed that Walt is/was a fairly moral, principled, decent man. What's rather sickening about this turn of events in his illness is reflecting back on all that he has done because of it - killed people, stolen, lied, destruction - the works! To remove the reason that sanctioned it (for Walt), terminal illness, brings the full weight of Walt's actions down on his head. For a moral person, nothing could be worse to live with, and now he has to. And maybe, to make matters worse, I think Walt rather enjoyed some of what he did, and who he became (the new Walt - gutsy, risk-taking and the empire-builder albeit criminally) and justified it with a righteousness that was overblown and out of perspective - "I have a right to do what I want because I'm dying, and I've been cheated by life". Going to be a very heavy burden for the conscience to bear.

Even ensuring his family's financial security isn't holding up to scrutiny. A $9,000 haul for some deaths, burglary, drug dealing, lying and whatnot? That's only $2000 more than the $7000 he took out of the bank to buy the RV. How does Walt live with what he's done? How does he go back to being the old Walt? Can you just pick up your morals where you left off? Or your old sense of self and identity after the things that Walt's done?

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Plus, I think Walt is addicted to the adrenaline rush of his alternative life as Heisenberg. Losing that power? He's going to be bored to tears by the monotony of his old life with no sideline activities. If he goes back to it, this time it won't be for noble reasons - the payoff will be for his now warped ego and need for power.

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I started a post here on the forum "Jesse is gonna cry when Mr. White dies". Well, I start realizing that this is gonna be true for myself the first 10 -15 minutes into this episode. I'm having some serious heartfelt feelings for Mr. White as if he was a real person. I start to get sad, but the footage of the two of them driving in the RV,a very simple scene, but it had the right atmosphere, the right look, the right music, beautiful, vast NM in the background and it lifted the mood. This episode was important it gave Walt and Jesse's realationship an added substance that wasn't there before. Yes, they have been in crazy life jeopardizing situations before, but this time it was the acting that made it so real. It gave you a sense of what's going on between Jeese and Walt, in their heads and their hearts. I think the actors did a super job in this episode. When it came down to the last 30 seconds of the show Walt's reaction floored me. In that moment he's hitting, my stomach is just turning ,feeling so ill for this character. My heart sank realizing not only was Walt stupid wolfgang, but he has damage his being, his soul, all that is human in him. He is no longer the man he was,and that was ok if he was gonna die, but he broke bad and can't ever take it back. He's been lieing to a woman he loves (Skyler may not be the kind of woman that most of you would love, but Walt loves her), breaking the law, pushing a deadly drug to addicts, getting involed with criminal elements, and he's murdered.He's got blood on his hands alright, and not from coughing up blood.Walt may as well be dieing because Walt won't be able to live with himself because of everything he's done.Hopefully Walt will be able to forgive himself and take in what he's learned about himself and be a better person for it all. To Walt I say,in the words of Ernest Hemingway , The
world breaks everyone, and then some become strong at the broken places.
The best line in this episode was , " man you're smart, you made poison out of beans...Yo."

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jamm54 you were posting what I was typing, if you notice the time stamp and your post wasnt up yet when I started writing my post. You wouldn't be born under the sign scoripo would you ?

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I'm a Capricorn with a lot of Capricorn (Sun, Moon, Venus, Mercury) with Scorpio rising, and Scorpio in Mars & Saturn. Had my chart done years ago.

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My favorite scene was Jesse dropping Walt off at the airport. Whenever someone shows their love/feelings for Walt, he's overwhelmed by it - closes up like a flower, he can hardly accept it. After all their Felix/Oscar bickering and blows this season, Walt saying to Jesse "I trust you.." and Jesse saying "Whatever happens, I'll see that your family gets your share" and looking at him, I almost started bawling.

Now, wait until Jesse finds Walt isn't dying anytime soon. Let the bickering begin.....LOL

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Blue Runner: I just made the connection that Walt had "blood on his hands" when he had the coughing fit in the desert. He is in too deep now to just go back to being meek Mr. White. After all the shit he has gone through, he only has $9K!

GeeMoney: Love "Mesa Barrens!" Perfect! Too bad Skinny Pete is no Bobby Bacala.

And when Walt tells Jessie he trusts him! Dude didn't do anything right during the entire 4 days, but he still trusts him - amazing!

Just what kind of robot was Walt supposed to build, and how would that have helped them? Jessie is just hilariously moronic. Like a 10-year old in an adult body. Funyuns are the bomb.

For the love of Pete, will they buy an extra battery for the RV!!

How many of you would have bet your house that Skinny Pete was going to be a no-show? He probably turned on the wrong Streat.

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Wow, sixty replies already.

I haven't read the replies yet. Just woke up and no time.

Good, slow, show. It is amazing how they can slow it down and still keep you on the edge of your seat. Excellent.

As far as the final scene of Walt going nuts with the punching. Since he saw the reflection of the mass on the MRI he thought he was really going to be dead in weeks. He is smart and knows enough about that stuff that he really thought he was done for. So he prepped himself for dying and went to cook. Coughing up blood and everything, he thought he was dead.

So he finds out the good news. But look at how he broke down when he was stranded with Jesse and said "lie after lie" he cannot keep track of them anymore. It shows that he really cares about what he has done and the lies and the people that could be hurt by it. He may not be turning as cold as we may have suspected.

I can only imagine it like you are in an airplane and you are sitting with your closest relatives (in my case my wife and then my kids) and the plane is going down and you know you are going to die. You feel yourself falling further and further and you start talking and telling things you would never say if you had years of life in front of you and suddenly the plane rights itself and you don't die. You are fine. And you now have to live with what you have said. Walt has to live with his actions. As we were talking about show time. I don't think much time has passed since S1-E1 to now. Think about the killing and the cooking and the lies. How is Walt going to undue all that?

He accepted the fact that he was dead and now he is alive and maybe alive for a very long time. I don't think he wanted to die. But when he was convinced he was going to die, and accepted it. Now he has to cover up his actions for the rest of his life. He knows he is bound to be caught by some of it as time passes.

That and it was just one hell of an emotional roller coaster. That is why I think he punched the bathroom blower or whatever it was. And think about his error of mistaking the mass for the worst. In Walt's black or white world of science, he is rarely so wrong when he thinks he was so right.

I have done the same thing with my own self medically. Of course on a much smaller scale. I am not or was never dying of anything but when they were checking me for a condition I was worried sick about it for hearing or seeing something I thought wrong about. I sort of jumped to conclusions on a much smaller scale. But man, can you blame Walt for freaking out after seeing that reflection? I would have too.

I think punching the reflective hand blower after his mistake of seeing the reflection of the mass and being so wrong and reflecting back is a great symbolic touch now that I think about it. Excellent way to end the show. I think it is all about reflecting back on the deep holes he has dug for himself and now he isn't going to die.

Can't wait for next week.

Oh, and I also liked the comedy in this episode. Jesse saying, "A robot?" when Walt asked what he thought he was going to make, he'd said it. Then the part where he said "a wire" when what asked what element they were going to use in their battery. Great stuff!

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Interesting comments, wolfgang.

What was Heisenberg (the real one) most known for?

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

A prophetic choice of name for Walt. He doesn't know which way to spin next!

Also, am I the only one who thought it strange that Walt and Jesse would be carrying around at least 50 lbs of nuts and bolts? Plus, I don't think that hardware was galvanized, or even zinc plated.

Minor quibble though - I still loved the episode.

Jane is NOT hot.

Preggo Skylar is MUY CALIENTE !!

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I agree with what everyone's saying about Walt: "How will he live with himself now?" And I think JPinkerton is right on--Walt wants to be Heisenberg, he enjoys being Heisenberg, and he doesn't want to have to go back to being boring old Walter White.
I love how the humor of this show turns everything on it's head. At first it seemed almost Biblical--Walt in his ridiculous Lawrence of Arabia headdress in the desert (with a great line of horizon between the blue sky and brown earth) with blood on his hands. Then he starts telling Jesse, "Bring them to me" like some crazed prophet. But then Jesse asks if they're building a robot. Priceless.

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wolfgang and crew, I appreciate your view deciphering why Walt started punching the dispenser, but I don't agree. I believe Walt hates everything... especially himself. He can't take out his frustration on anyone except Jesse. What happened in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? Jekyll eventually turns into Hyde and can no longer control him. There is no way that Walter White can control Heisenberg any longer. He won't be able to stop even at home. I believe its a classic story where the arch nemesis is someone he already knows... Hank. He will control his temperament in front of his "loyal enemy" but remember what Corleone said, "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

Walt is not mad at himself for doing what he did. He is angry that he did not start sooner. Mark my words, Walt has "found himself". The only way he is going back to White is if he is pulled back kicking and screaming.

Heisenberg is going to do a peek-a-boo to Hank in the next episode. He is no longer some timid high school teacher. He has stared death in the eye and all he seen was White. He saw life and his name is Heisenberg.

It's classic literature brought to life in a superb pure form.

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How many comic book heroes and villains started off in the same situation? Exposed to radiation, gamma rays, etc. and transform into something monstrous. The villains were always smarter and superior to the hero in many ways, but the classic story is that either the antagonist dies or they both die. Hank is here to serve and protect. Whereas they both were very close, it now seems that there will be a gigantic wedge driven between them. Heisenberg will have to keep Hank at bay with an arms length of friendship to appropriately keep an eye on him.

The villain is always in a plot or scheme to destroy humanity (society through meth) or hold it for ransom and the hero is to serve justice... the American way. Will he go to jail? Will he die? Will he still be able to be Heisenberg behind prison walls?

The cancer was never meant to kill Walt. That chemo... the radiation... was meant to show him his destiny.

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WHY WOULD YOU PUT YOUR FAITH IN STINKY PETE, JESSE??!! is your common sense that bad?! i'd at least went with combo because he's the only one who hasn't gotten arrested or robbed.

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The Dr. said more tests needed to be done to find out why Walt is coughing up blood. Maybe the results were not good and that is why he was punching the paper towel dispenser.

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conversequeen, isn't Stinky Pete from Toy Story? Y'all have to quit hatin on my boy Skinny P.

ONA LEE, the doctor said that Walt's coughing up blood was from the radiation and he might have a tear in his esophagus. He will be fine, though. He has time.

We have time everyone!

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oops! this thing SERIOUSLY needs an edit button. y'all know who i'm talking about.

thanks laz3000

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Laz300 interesting points you touch on. Walter White has a Superior Intellect, can he walk away from this 2nd Life and back into his old life for good? I think it would take something pretty Catastrophic to scare Walter/Heisenberg at this point. He is not exactly proud of the way he has lived his life up to this point, on the other hand he knows what he is doing carries some serious consequences if he gets caught. His initial goal was $767,000.00, he's almost reached that goal. Its like High stakes gambling, do you stay or walk away from the table while your ahead?

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This episode lieratally made my shoulders shake with laughter (Jesse's comment..."A Robot?"...) and cry with relief (Walt's in remiission!!!). I am addicted to this show. I hate having to wait a week between episodes....but it's always worth it. Best show on TV....bar-none.

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Wow, no one is commenting on the trailer for next week?
Skylar's boss is going to make a move in a very short time.

I think next week we will see a baby delivered. Why? The Oncologist made the joke about when the baby is going to come. That is a clue to something coming up.
Maybe Skylar delivers.

As for the show itself, everyone was pulling for Hank to be in remission, we all want it. And remember, it is remission not cure so that means it could stop responding at any time.
It is not entirely unusual to have a great first report- as with my Mother in law who is dying of cancer. First round of chemo tumors shrunk and it was good news. Then it all went down hill.
And I really thought Jesse was going to call his girl friend for help or realize Skinny was not coming and call her.

And I think Walt is feeling some pains of consciousness. That is why he was beating the towel dispenser. Remember, earlier in the show he was starting to confess all he had been doing wrong- lying, etc.
So I think he was doing that because he did all this stuff to his family and now he is in remission.

Lastly, in the first episodes of the season we kept getting some kind of precurser scene in a pool and items floating in it. Anyone discuss what that is about yet?

Rob

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i don't think skylar will be delivering next week & i'm going to guess that she ultimately turns down her boss' advances. She may see walt's remission as a new start.

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tra2360 said "Also, am I the only one who thought it strange that Walt and Jesse would be carrying around at least 50 lbs of nuts and bolts? Plus, I don't think that hardware was galvanized, or even zinc plated."

Who said anything about fifty pounds? It certainly didn't look like 50 lbs and they never said 50 lbs. Just curious where you came up with that number?

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Ona Lee said "The Dr. said more tests needed to be done to find out why Walt is coughing up blood. Maybe the results were not good and that is why he was punching the paper towel dispenser."

I don't agree at all about Walt getting the results of that bleeding and getting upset about that. No offense but have you watched the entire series or are you new to the show? It is more about the emotion of thinking he was going to die and then REFLECTING on what he has done for the last season and a half. How is he going to cover his tracks and escape the person he has become. He cannot now and he realizes it. He has been through hell.

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conversequeen said "WHY WOULD YOU PUT YOUR FAITH IN STINKY PETE, JESSE??!! is your common sense that bad?!"

Umm... he really had no other choice. He couldn't exactly call Jane.

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laz 3000 said "I believe Walt hates everything... ."

I don't agree with your assessment at all. He is reflecting on what he has done for the last season and a half. He also went through all that emotion of thinking he was going to be dead in weeks. He is realizing what he has done and he has to live with it now. I don't think he hates everything at all. I think he loves his family so much and just wanted to take care of the financially and doesn't want to hurt them. Ultimately, Walt does not want to face Skyler with his secret. He has said more than once that he doesn't want her to find anything out until he is dead.

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Hewy guys...I am new to this. Can anyone tell me how to add a picture to my profile? I read your comments every week and love all your insights.You all give me a greater understanding of the show and it's symbolism. Thanks!

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Just a beautiful show. Very funny. Maybe the funniest yet. Classic lines like, "Congratulations! You just left your family a second hand Subaru." LMAO My favorite shot was Jesse smoking marijuana like a cigarette while Walt ate a Funyun as the two faced the setting sun.
Death has always been the ultimate promise for Walter White. While it was something that he ultimately feared, he also readily embraced. He reordered his life on the precept he was about to die, and anything he did would not count against him in this life. Now that it looks like he is going to live he has to grapple with all of the misdeeds he has done in the last few months, who he has hurt & (killed), and who he has become. It's like he has turned over a rock, and underneath this rock are all of these bugs now racing towards him. He can't put the rock down quick enough. The bugs are still coming. An amazing ep. This show delivers way more than I expect everytime.

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laz Interesting view (Walt's self-hatred) and your comments about Jekyll/ Hyde. I agree with you (I, too, think Walt had a kind of self-loathing which the cancer diagnosis and resultant actions set free), but also that initially Walt's hatred and rage came out in a lot of directions at others too (his old boss, Ken's sports car at the gas station, Gretchen, the kids taunting his son at the dept store). Since the first diagnosis and the creation of his alter-ego, Heisenberg, that hate has been growing both inward and outward in Walt. I think you're right, he's not going to be able to control it - it's going to spill out in very inappropriate ways/settings - we've seen a wiff of that in his scene with Gretchen. In so many ways, Walt is much more screwed up on a soul level than Jesse could ever hope to be. Maybe Walt's heart was flawed to begin with, unlike Jesse, who has always had a heart.

Your analysis sets the stage for the only way Walt could become a druglord/kingpin on the order of a Tuco (minus the psychopathic drug-addled behavior). He will be more deadly than a Tuco because he won't miss anything and be in full use of his faculties. Whether Jesse can continue with him (Jesse just doesn't have the chops to be as cold or as cruel as Walt could be) will be another matter.

When Walt told Jesse he trusted him, though, it was like the partnership had been set and the bond sealed for good on an emotional level. Blood bond. I don't think Walt will ever stop wondering, possibly worrying, about Jesse even if he does walk away from the drug world (I don't think he will for good, anyway).

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I have a couple of cool interactive sites with Walt. Check them out: www.waltswisdom.com www.waltswarning.com.

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laz when I was reading your comments about Walt hating everything, the first image that literally popped into my mind was Hitler. The little paper hanger full of hate, who sold it to the world - in Walt's case, meth. Taking it to another level, does Walt have no feeling or love for society? How can he create something so pure and lethal (meth), and dispense it out to people for his own gain and not care? I don't care if he's dying or not or saving his family financially, it's a form of contempt and hatred towards society and people.

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Several have mentioned that after all that Walt has been through (murder, drugs, etc.) he only has $9,000. However, remember that he has spent thousands of his drug money to fund the chemotherapy that is saving his life. And his original concern was that he didn't want to create a debt for the treatment, because if he dies regardless, it will be left on his family.

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By tra2360 on May 4, 2009 7:23 AM
What was Heisenberg (the real one) most known for?
The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

Is that the one about predicting electron orbits or something like that?

A prophetic choice of name for Walt. He doesn't know which way to spin next!
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Jane is NOT hot.
Yes, she is.

Preggo Skylar is MUY CALIENTE !!
But "MUY" bitchy!!

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jamm54 said "How can he create something so pure and lethal (meth), and dispense it out to people for his own gain and not care? I don't care if he's dying or not or saving his family financially, it's a form of contempt and hatred towards society and people. "

Actually, you could say the same thing about tobacco companies, alcohol manufacturers, casinos, strip clubs, porn sites, anything that can hurt a person. Add in there fast food and red meat. I don't think Walt hates society because he is selling meth any more than a CEO of a company hates the world and makes and sells vodka. He many not be thinking about his impact at all. Family first. I don't think he hates the world so much he is trying to hurt them. He is just trying to take care of his family. I'm sure if given the choice, he'd rather not be cooking meth with a former student.

I think he hates what he has become and doesn't want to hurt his family more than anything.

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slygirl08..... another spammer in the group?

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I know I sound ignorant...I'm sorry....but what's a "Spammer". Is that someone who sends SPAM on purpose? I would never do that. I went to Wikipedia and found those links and checked them out myself. They were great so I thought I'd pass them along to my fellow Breaking Bad afficianados : )

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Okay, where is Skinny Pete? Did Walt and Jesse have to go find him? Could Skinny Pete even give directions to someone to find him?

I also think they need to invest some money in fixing up that damn RV so it doesn't conk out on them again or else find a permanent spot to cook. I don't know what mechanic they could take it to who be discreet other than Clovis (was he a mechanic too?).

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i know what you mean. That RV is a total bust waiting to happen.

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By arixol on May 4, 2009 1:50 PM
Several have mentioned that after all that Walt has been through (murder, drugs, etc.) he only has $9,000. However, remember that he has spent thousands of his drug money to fund the chemotherapy...
Exactly what I was thinking.

Jess, however, is renting a new apartment, buying a big screen, satellite hook-up (did he ever get it working?) and a big bed. Well, the mattress anyhow. Hell, whoever said a 'bed' HAS to be up off the floor?

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Hey guys,

Last night was a great episode. The scene in the desert after it broke down was great. Skinny Pete did not come through and there will be repercussions on that I'm sure...or at least something will happen to the crew (How is Badger going to help them....he owes his life to the Heisenberg crew)

They made all that meth in the cook out. Now, they are going to need to steal another barrel of the chemical...or does someone get it for them?!! If Walt does return, they will have to figure that one out.

In the preview for next week, I think Hank gets in it with Walt over Walt giving his boy alcohol. That, or he was drinking it for himself. Something about "Dad of the year" and "MY SON, MY HOUSE!".

Now, that can be taken so many ways! Next week's episode will be drama packed.

With Walt's tumor in remission, this changes everything. He can still DIE in any of the few episodes, or he makes season 3 very, VERY interesting.

Jesse and Jane need to call it. She will become a problem for Jesse. Come on I'm sure she can put two and two together and see what Jesse is up to. No offense ladies, but in these Shows, you add a woman and there will be a problem! He is not cut out for the business. He is getting soft, and Walt can see it. I wouldn't be surprised if Jesse stops, or is killed by Walt in some insane state.

THOSE 2 PHONE CALLS are going to come back to mess up everything for Mr. White. Should have had some back up batteries, eh?

The ending scene was great. That's how I'd feel. Glad to be alive, but now it's time to face EVERYTHING he has done. There are repercussions for all of his actions.

The Heisenberg Theory of Relativity is coming into place, FULL EFFECT.

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Seeing the mass in the reflection and then himself in the towelrack. Awesome Imagery tie in.

The water play. In some many areas. It certainly relates to the driest state in the nation. Skinny Pete, "Just crossed the river" ...Walt" No river out here", that's the truth west of Abq. big time. although the area looks more like east of the Sandias. But then again, high desert is high desert.

and Jesse.... methlyamine doesn't go bad does it?

Walt... the kid's brighter than you think

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With all that money, I'd be worried about gettiong robbed! Jesse should get a safe deposit box or something. PS Bed frames are over-rated. They're just a place for dust bunnies to gather. I removed mine so my beautifful 12 year old Chesapaeake Bay Retiever "Sly" can get up on my bed without hurting his hips and back.

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By Slygirl08 on May 4, 2009 2:13 PM
i know what you mean. That RV is a total bust waiting to happen.
'zactly - But after this last session they can afford to upgrade. Assuming they move the dope quick enough. But with all that goes wrong with those two...
Ya know what I mean? "It's always something; if it ain't one thing, it's another"

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yeah, kenny..
walt needs to lose that phone, to play it safe.

and jane was overhearing words like chemicals, etc.

now is she going to want her 17% too?

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By KennyD on May 4, 2009 2:19 PM
Skinny Pete did not come through and there will be repercussions on that I'm sure...or at least something will happen to the crew (How is Badger going to help them....

Badger? He is so stupid, the best thing they can do is cut him loose & remind him how lucky he is.
Just cut your losses & let the dumb-ass go.

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skottey, mad respect. Those of us that get into the psyche of the characters every week should be able to see what may be around the next bend. We have enough history to see what may be coming. I honestly 100% believe that Walt has nothing but utter contempt for the world. He has lied, manipulated, and murdered since the pilot aired. He hasn't cheated on his wife yet, but who is his real partner on the show? Jesse. I think that may be coming our way, too.

jamm54 pointed out some of the highlights of Heisenberg since the diagnosis, like starting that guy's car on fire and smacking around that kid for picking on his son. He doesn't feel remorse. Well, maybe a little, but he is pissed his research and knowledge were flushed away. Do remember when he spoke about the guy who created the diamond? How did they reward him? A $10 bond. There is no way he is sitting back anymore. He isn't about to come this far and turn away. How many people walk away when they should? Not many.

Do you realize that Hank created Walt? He did when he took him on the bust in the first episode. The hero created the enemy. It's classic. I'm telling you this was a villain's genesis.

There is no walking away. There is no remorse. There is no Walt. There is only Heisenberg.

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Slygirl-

I thought maybe you were another celebrity watcher promoting their own website like we saw with that Roxy lady last week. Just like unsolicited email advertising (spamming) most of us see. This board is not moderated so there is nothing we can do about it if a celebrity fansite shamelessly promotes their celebrity site. Sorry if I was wrong.

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KennyD....I think you are right on about next week's episide being drama-packed. I read an interview with the Director of Photography Michael Slovis where mentions something big is supposed to happen around episode 10 taht the writers have been leading up to all season...see cut and paste below:

Q: What is your favorite scene?

A: I can't tell you because it's later in the season.You'll know it when you see it. It gets crazier as the storyline develops. Here's one thing: What Vince and the writers do is drop a single line in an early episode and then not mention anything about it until nine episodes later, and then all of a sudden there's an episode all about that single line. It's intriguing to me to work on something that is so well planned out and circular in terms of its storytelling. I think it's just brilliant.

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Also, to push all of that meth, they are going to need Saul's help.

It probably won't happen until the last episode of two. Even with Jesse's dealers, they'd be lucky to get rid of ONE pound in a week or so.

They need Saul's connections for mass quantities. However, I have a feeling that from EPISODE 7, one of these "connections" will be Tuco's brother or family related. Blue Meth....it's HEISENBERG's meth! "That homie is dead, he just doesn't know it"

This is my favorite show. I long for SUNDAY 10PM.

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That's OK skottey : ) I'm glad you asked so everyone can feel safe going to the sites mentioned if they want. I think this is an amaziong place for us to discuss the show and I feel privileged to be a part of it.

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also I have to wonder, even though they wear the mask and all.

Don't you feel that Walt is sort of undermining his treatment being around all those chemicals.

While the doc says it can be part of the treatment the cough, doesn't it seem like "cooking" could be playing a factor it's pretty tight quarters and sleeping in there can't be the best of places to snooze

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Why doesn't Walt just use a pre-paid TRAC phone so he won't have to worry about Skylar checking his bill? I know he has used 2 cell phones in the past...

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zia-- I originally thought that the inflammation was due to all the chemicals he was being around. Interesting story line from that.

Slygirl- Good question. What happened to his second cell phone? I know the first wouldn't be good because Skyler checks it....but the second phone shouldn't be tracing the calls to the bills.

Judging by the Episode titles, there is...Over. Mandela (Mandala?). Phoenix. ABQ. I have a feeling Phoenix is where they will "expand" the METH market and get rid of their product with the help of Saul. And ABQ, the season finale, will have everything coming to a close. Possibly getting CAUGHT coming from a plane? DEA involved so I wonder....

From the Preview, it seems Walt is going to try to take it easy. Possibly spend a lot of time around the house and with family. Hank's on to him, that's a lot of meth that going to be distributed....they "BETTER CALL SAUL".

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Even though they're wearing a mask, can't chemicals seep through the pores of your skin over the rest of your body? I would think they'd almost need to wear HazMat suits. Whenever you read about meth labs being broken down in houses, it's like it's a Ground Zero of chemical toxicity, and has to be destroyed completely. Can a meth lab site be completely cleaned of chemicals? I didn't think they could. I can't believe that pre-Walt, Jesse's cooking and own use hasn't affected his health horribly. He could end up being ill, himself, one day, like Walt.

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laz3000-

There is no question that Walt has some bitterness, I just don't think he hates the world. Yes, he is mad that his peers passed him up, how Gretchen screwed him over. He obviously has some issues with his mother, as he hadn't even told her yet and he was going alone to the airport to fly out and see her and had enough faith in Skyler that he could say, "call me if you need me" while visiting his mother, knowing she wouldn't call. He certainly has some anger. But I'll bet you he is his own worst enemy. I think he wishes he had done things differently but I just don't think he hates the world and is trying to hurt society as much as he can before he checks out. If he was simply trying to hurt society he could do far more damage and fear by sending out Anthrax or Ricin all over the place killing hundreds before he ever even got looked at as a suspect. In other words, there are easier ways to hurt society for a man of his intelligence. A person of average intelligence would go shoot up a office or store, killing 5 or 6 people and then turning the gun on himself, but Walt is too smart for that. If he really wants to hurt society, there are other ways.

I think it is mostly he wants the money for his family to secure them. Secondly, he is trying to prove to himself that he is somebody special (good or bad) before he dies. He has lived a boring life and now teaches high school chemistry when he could have gone so much further. He needs reassurance. We still don't know why he never followed his dreams. We aren't getting many answers, only new questions each week. Now we wonder about the relationship with his mother.

I am actually starting to sympathize with Walt and Jesse more and more. If this is not the intention fo the writers, they need to hit us with another Tuco or Crazy 8 type situation soon to show us that Walt and Jesse are heartless douchebags again. Earlier on in season 2 and in season 1 it was easy to hate Walt and Jesse. I kind of feel sorry for the two of them now.

I really think punching the towel dispenser (I said hand blower before but have since watched the show two times today after once last night, haha) was him reflecting on what he has done and now he has to live with it for a while.

From the preview he is going to tell Jesse he wants to sell it off and he is done. I think we will find he is reeled into it way deeper and will find that it is not that easy to get out.

I am starting to think now that his family will be threatened. His family which means more to him than his own existence. The scene of the blown up stuff in the pool may be the last scene of the last episode of the season. Maybe he comes home to find his house blown up by the Mexican Cartel or Jessee *sigh*. The good news in my opinion (hope) is that his family was not inside. But that he won't know that right away. He'll come home to a freshly blown up house and think his wife is home with the son. But my prediction is that maybe Skyler is having the baby and Walt Jr went along with her and Marie to the hospital and they couldn't get in touch with Walt, which would Explain Skyler's car in the driveway. So ends season 2 on a cliffhanger. Are Skyler, Walt Jr., and the baby ok?

Season 3 will open with a sparkling baby girl scene with Walt at the hospital with Skyler and then he'll have to explain the house being blown up. Season 3 will be much about Walt trying to escape the hole he dug himself into for his family's sake (their lives). Possibly Jesse will turn on him and not give him his half of the money. Walt will have nothing for his family and be running and protecting his family.

So that is my prediction. Any thoughts?

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I just wanted to concur with some of the comments on the "A Robot"? line. When I heard Jesse say this I was rolling! The way he said it was so natural and the look of wonderment on Jesse's face, it was like, Yo Mr, White you're a Genius man! PERFECT, out of all the Dialogue between Walt and Jesse that was my Favorite. A Robot, like how in the Hell is a Robot going to fix their situation? Thats some Funny shit you guys...

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In reflecting on the last 2 seasons of this show, it seems that Walt is the one that has nearly gotten Jesse killed or put in harms way on several occasions.

1. Crazy 8 and Emilio
Walt is the one who approached Jesse after the raid on the house having recognized him as being a former student. When they first went out to cook that first batch. Crazy 8 was going to kill Jesse and Walt.

2. Tuco, it was at Walts insistence that they find someone who could buy large quantities so Jesse found Tuco. Tuco beat Jesse up pretty badly and I'm sure I don't have to rehash the adventure they had at Tio's house.

3. That lead indirectly to Jesse being homeless and losing nearly everything. to get to where he is now.

4. Skank and Spooges house. Walt told Jesse to "Take care of the breakage problem" Jesse gets conked on the head and could very easily have been killed by those nutjobs.

5. The adventure in the desert from this last episode. Dehydration was a very real possibility.

I'm not saying that Jesse is without fault in some of these misshaps, but if he had not reconnected with Walter then he would still be some low level drug user but in nowhere near the danger he has been in these last two seasons. Walter is bad for Jesse's health

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In regards to Jesse comment about his back hurting because of the cot.

Wouldn't back pains be one of the first indicators of chemical exposure?

Probably the cot ;).... but why weren't they sleeping outside under the beautiful NM starlight

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I got the feeling also that those two calls are going to come back to bite Walter. If Skyler gets to the bill first, she will likely check the number by calling it on her own cell to see who is this and who called who from Walt's phone.

If Walt gets to the bill first, he can contact Skinny Pete and get him to tell Skyler that he is one of Walt's new teaching assistants at the school. Of course the whole telling two lies to cover one could backfire also given Skyler's mistrust of Walter. Skyler deeply suspects Walter is keeping something from her as a result of the cancer.

It doesn't help either having a nutty woman like Marie jabbering in Skyler's ears either. At some point Hank will be thrown back in the mix with Marie confiding in Hank something to the effect of, "Skyler thinks he's cheating on her!" and then Hank will do a nice double-take and that could be another way this backfires.

If Saul had private investigators, you can bet Hank knows a few also. It's also a good bet that Saul and Hank have the same PI, "You're not the only guy looking for him!".

Walt had better install rechargeable solar panels on that Winnebago if he wants to continue.

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By KennyD on May 4, 2009 2:45 PM
zia-- I originally thought that the inflammation was due to all the chemicals he was being around. Interesting story line from that.
Walt is careful - with the respirators and the paper/plastic overalls.

Slygirl- Good question. What happened to his second cell phone?
Remember when Tuco trashed both Walt's & Jess' phones after he kidnapped them?

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i think the second one is in the ceiling at walt' school

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By RCH2288 on May 4, 2009 3:00 PM
In reflecting on the last 2 seasons of this show, it seems that Walt is the one that has nearly gotten Jesse killed or put in harms way on several occasions.
On all points (1-5) I totally agree. The only 'chance' Walt has ever taken is the actual cooking. He has put Jess in harms way numerous times.

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I liked the way Walt was admiring Jesse's extend-o antenna ...like wtf is this ..lol

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skottey Well, I knew someone would bring up the finer points of those who make/distribute the legal version of substances (alcohol/tobacco, etc) to the world. I'm not good in a debate like that - I can't give you a good argument there of what's really so different about what Walt has done.

Maybe only that, being a chemist and knowing their effects and not even being in the business world of producing legalized substances where midpoint in such a career he has a change of heart or realization (think of the excellent movie, The Insider), instead he fully enters into the illegal world of drugs knowing full well how awful it all is, and its effects, but still does it. And such a choice also includes killing, stealing and lying. Again, you could say the corporations are doing the same thing, indirectly, and you'd be right. It's all about the gray areas, perspective, and fine points. I just think the meth business is a much uglier choice, and I can't really see a great rationale for what he's done whether he's dying or not or wanted to protect his family or not. Plus, I do think his choice evolved beyond his first reason (financial security) to one of retribution against society for his failure to realize his potential as a human being and in his career.

Many people who have terminal diagnoses and are not in great shape financially (my mother, my stepbrother), don't do what Walt has done. But, I wouldn't have missed this for the world. Walt's story has been one of the most riveting I've ever watched, and the emotions I feel for him: horror, empathy, sadness, compassion, happiness, get tossed around like a roller coaster every week - can't complain about that.

In the end, we could both be right or both be wrong. Either way, doesn't it kind of end up how little or how great we want to be bad in life? Isn't that the dilemma we all face in our lives, every day? The little white lie to the major screwing over of another, and what the ripple effect of our our behavior will be?

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By Rocknar on May 4, 2009 3:16 PM
I got the feeling also that those two calls are going to come back to bite Walter. If Skyler gets to the bill first, she will likely check the number by calling it on her own cell to see who is this and who called who from Walt's phone.
For as deep as Walt is into this business he is WAY too subservient to that bitch Skyler. He needs to set some limits on her so that she's not nosing into his business.

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unforgiven...


didn't he try that at the kitchen counter :-)

and didn't tuco destroy walts real cell , not his Jesse-Heisenburg one

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laz If Hank created Heisenberg, this could really be the story of Frankenstein. LOL

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I took Walt's punching of the towel dispenser as an indication of total frustration. He realizes how everything he's been touching has led to setbacks and life-threatening situations. He also knows that blaming Jesse for everything is lame and that he (Walt) is as much to blame for their continuing screw-ups. Walt still doesn't feel any empathy for anybody and I'm not sure he really has any feelings for his family. I think the only one he has feelings for is Jesse.

It will be interesting to see how Walt relates to his new baby.

Also, it's time to give Jane a bigger part. Just showing opening scenes of her and Jesse together doesn't really incorporate her into the story.

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By zia on May 4, 2009 3:34 PM
unforgiven...
didn't he try that at the kitchen counter :-)

Try what? You lost me...

and didn't tuco destroy walts real cell , not his Jesse-Heisenburg one
Ok - that I'm not positive about. Maybe yes. Maybe no. Maybe maybe maybe, baby.

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Yea, as I've said that an 'edit' button would be welcome -- but I wish you could nest replies. Or am I just lazy? (or stupid/old?)

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That was a while ago that Tuco destroyed their cell phones. With as much planning Walt & Jesse have to do on a regular basis, you'd think they would have popped into a Wal-mart or something and picked up a pre-paid cell by now. Maybe they have done that and it's signal was low and the only phone left working was Walt's family phone....probably a higher quality than a quickie TRAC phone with a better signal?

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Been strapped for time & have'nt gotten a chance, to read fully through everybodys posts yet... =(
But, would like to join in with the others & add that the "Remission Scene" was highly emotional!
The joy & relief expressed by the actors & actresses, felt as real to me, as if I were in that room with them!

Quote by: Blue Runner: The best line in this episode was , " man you're smart, you made poison out of beans...Yo."

LMAO, that ain't nuttin'...'cuz I've done THAT before!! =) Ha ha ha!
However...to be perfectly honest...mine had more to do with, my crappy cooking skills...than any actual smarts!
LOL! =D

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taking into account all the previous comments about why walt pummelled the paper towel dispenser after receiving his health new, i looked at the sneak peek for next week's episode & walt looks REALLY depressed about being in remission. if the doctor would've told me some news like that, i'd have a permanent smile plastered on my face. instead walt looks like the doctor told him he was going to die next week. maybe it's shock & he just hasn't fully absorbed what this means for his life and family.

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skottey and BB fans! Anyone who has ever committed a crime has rationalized it in their head before they actually ever went through with it. Walter White cooked meth for his family to have monetary health. That's how it started, but like I've been saying, he was transforming, like a caterpillar into a butterfly. It's a metamorphosis. What's the old saying? "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." No doubt. He can no longer deny what he is. He has a second chance at life... "...but what kind of life will it be?" Remember that? No more Mr. Nice Guy. He has a chance at salvation, but I guarantee you that he won't accept it. He will spit in its face. Jekyll and Hyde, baby. Hyde will take over. Heisenberg will TAKE OVER. He will become Scarface / Tony Montana. Will he kill Jesse the way Tony killed Manny? Will Skyler or Walt Jr. die so that he pays for his sins. I believe so. This is a Shakespearean tragedy. That's the way this thing works. Everyone dies or winds up in ruins, even the hero (Hank).

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I believe Walt didn't seem as happy as one would expect with the news that his cancer had gone into remission becasue he never planned on that happening. He has been living moment to moment....lying, selling drugs, killing...doing whatever it took to justify the means to his end. Now that he might live through this, he will have to face that man in the mirror (towel dispenser) and answer for his sins

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I think the man he was hitting was the weakling. Heisenberg was trying to destroy Walt. Walt was back in the picture. Walt was going to live. Hyde overpowers Jekyll in the book and I believe that Heisenberg wants to overpower Walt.

Cranston is blowing my mind, man!

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This was one of my favorite episodes. Jane was kept to a minimum, and I loved the interaction between Walt and Jesse. This reminded me a lot of the episode of The Sopranos where Paulie and Christopher were stranded in the woods (I see someone else said that already). Jesse had the funniest lines of the episode, including "Funyuns are awesome", "A robot?", and "Ahhh, wire!" I loved how Walt was in "teacher" mode with Jesse when he was building the battery, just like old times! I was happy at the end when they found out Walt is going to live. It gave me hope that the show can be on a lot longer. I don't think it ruins it at all. I think it's actually a very good twist. It's pretty obvious why Walt beat up the towel dispenser at the end. He's done all this for nothing, because he's probably going to live now. Will he be the same "Heisenberg" or not from here on out? On a side note, I absolutely LOVE the outdoor shots of the beautiful Albuquerque, along with the ambient music that plays during those shots. Reminds me a lot of bands like Hammock (check them out if you can).

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If you listen to the podcast, you can hear the writers and crew talk about the "A robot?" line. I guess it was improvised by Aaron Paul. Originally he's just supposed say "What?"

Absolutely hilarious!

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Another similarity to that Sopranos episode: In that episode, Christopher said "When we get out of here, the first place I'm hitting is Denny's!" And of course, Jesse said "There must be a Denny's around here somewhere!"

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I literally can't fall asleep for hours on Sunday night becuase I can't stop thinking about the show. It's simply brilliant. The way the combine drama and comedy is unparalleled. There can be so much tension....Walt and Jesse alomst die in the desert and then Jesse pops off with that "A robot?" remark and you almost die laughing.Easilyjaded....thanks for the head-up about Aaron Paul improvising that line. It makes me love him all the more. I know I mentioned it earlier, but the ending with the raw emotion felt by Walt's family after hearing about his remission touched me to my core. I cannot remember ever caring for fictional characters so much.

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Well, Walt really found himself and his power as Heisenberg. The question is, what kind of person did he really find?

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laz Your statement about criminals rationalizing their behavior - you got that right! Even Hank chided Walt about making a rationalization for a criminal's behavior, something like "that's what a criminal would say" a couple of episodes ago - LOL.

I think Walt made it very clear what he thought of himself (or former self) when he gave Hank that pep talk in "Better Call Saul" about being afraid of everything for years. His speech and tone became more intense as he was talking about himself. I think he hated who he was as Walter White: timid, fearful chemistry teacher. Even then, Walt did not appreciate or value the gentler, better qualities of his character (intelligent, caring, kind, thoughtful, accepting, altruistic).

I'm not sure how Walt can really deem his alter-ego's character, actions and behavior as superior to Walt White, but obviously he does and that's where the struggle will be. Very distorted viewpoint, and does Walt even realize it?

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Jesse may be incompenent in some ways, but he thinks like a survivor. While Walt gave up, Jesse started thinking about how to use the resources at hand (including Walt's knowledge of chemistry) to get them out of their situation.

A different point: I'm wondering about Jesse's landlady's father. All we know about him is that he owns the house, but is apparently too busy to deal with it and the tenants directly. Maybe when we do get to meet him we'll find out the his day job is with the police force. (Do you think maybe Hank has a daughter and some real estate no one knows about?)

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unforgiven.... when walt was wanting to do Skyler in the kitchen.. just before jr. got home... a few eps. back... though I guess Sky set him straight

also which phone was it that was up in the ceiling at school... I don't think it was the phone skyler knows about... but who knows maybe tuco destroyed both phones.. but then there was stilll that one in the ceiling... the Hesienburg Hotline

It's some pretty damn good writing when we all start talking like we really know them. yo

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Nobody has any thoughts on my predictions? Zia, Laz3000, jamm54, james26, noah, and the rest of the regulars. Sorry if you are a regular and I missed you.... oops... I forgot Ray Liotta, aka Unforgiven.


I said-

"I am starting to think now that his family will be threatened. His family which means more to him than his own existence. The scene of the blown up stuff in the pool may be the last scene of the last episode of the season. Maybe he comes home to find his house blown up by the Mexican Cartel or Jessee *sigh*. The good news in my opinion (hope) is that his family was not inside. But that he won't know that right away. He'll come home to a freshly blown up house and think his wife is home with the son. But my prediction is that maybe Skyler is having the baby and Walt Jr went along with her and Marie to the hospital and they couldn't get in touch with Walt, which would Explain Skyler's car in the driveway. So ends season 2 on a cliffhanger. Are Skyler, Walt Jr., and the baby ok?

Season 3 will open with a sparkling baby girl scene with Walt at the hospital with Skyler and then he'll have to explain the house being blown up. Season 3 will be much about Walt trying to escape the hole he dug himself into for his family's sake (their lives). Possibly Jesse will turn on him and not give him his half of the money. Walt will have nothing for his family and be running and protecting his family.

So that is my prediction. Any thoughts? "

BTW, I just came from a customer's house. Two brothers that are businessmen that I truly admire. They seem to get along so well as a family doing business together. I have never gotten along well with my brother for whatever reason and holidays are a complete mess. Not my wife and kids, but my mother, grandmother, siblings, etc. Anyway, the brothers were watching Breaking Bad from the DVR. I stormed out there and declared my love for the show, "best show on television, I'm serious, best show I have seen in years." They love the show!

A similar situation happened a few years ago when I was servicing their computer and they were watching Lucky Louie. Another fantastic show, which happened to be canceled prematurely (Thanks HBO). We obviously have the same taste in shows.

I love turning people on to Breaking Bad and love discovering people that already watch it.

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Did anyone see the shot of the urinating penis in the foreground before the family went in to see the doctor? They were all sitting in the waiting room. It had nothing to do with the doctor scene. I think it was a joke someone did on the film. I watched the encore episode and it wasn't there. Please tell me I wasn't seeing things!

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By zia on May 4, 2009 2:34 PM
...................Don't you feel that Walt is sort of undermining his treatment being around all those chemicals.
While the doc says it can be part of the treatment the cough, doesn't it seem like "cooking" could be playing a factor...................................

No crank kills everything!!!
It's what probably improved it.
Not stating a fact just my personal opinon.


By zia on May 4, 2009 3:06 PM .................................
Wouldn't back pains be one of the first indicators of chemical exposure........... but why weren't they sleeping outside..........................


Yes back pains could be from chemical exposure.
Sleeping outside in the desert? Hello it's freezing in the desert at night!!!

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skottey, I turned someone on to BB and it turned out he told his family, who told a friend, and on we go...

Okay, about the finale...

Knowing how unpredictable this show can be it is hard to actually predict anything. I posted a thread asking about predictions for the finale yesterday, but it got caught in the aftermath of some of the nonsense others post after the episode. I know I sound condescending, but some of the threads really don't say anything that they shouldn't already post right here. That's just how I feel, but I really love all the newbies! Thanks for coming!

Anyways, I hate to go on record about this, but I think that Skyler will lose the baby in the aftermath of the explosion. Walt/Heisenberg will all be for nothing. I have watched the beginning of the episodes with the explosions and I see Skyler's makeup, a watch and Walt's glasses. I see baby stuff too, but the show is unpredictable. I think Skyler and Walt are home, but Walt escapes and the baby is gone. I don't get the feeling Walt Jr. will be hurt. He is almost an outsider on the show a lot of times.

What is your guy's analysis?

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Skottey said: "actually you could say the same thing about tabacco companies, alcohol manufacturers, casinoes, strip clubs, porn sites, anything that can hurt a person. Add in there fast food & red meat." Skottey, what are you talking about? I get everything but the 'red meat' part. What are you some kind of vegan?? Red meat is awsome. I should know my family and I eat lots of it. Remember "It's whats for dinner.....YO!! You usually have some pretty insightful stuff, but that was just plain dumb.

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Ok yeah there are gonna be posts in the wrong threads, who cares, big deal. There isnt even an edit button to correct a mistake on the forum.. I say this not only to Skottey's recent post, but because I have to reply to noah's recent post, and thus begins off topic comments. Noah, I eat red meat it's very yummy but how much beef do you think this country consumes? How long does it take a baby cow to to grow to full size that it takes to become your yummy steak dinner?Longer than the beef companies want to, or can afford to wait.So what do they do? Pump them full of chemicals to speed up their growth.Why do you think childern now a days are so over developed for their age? Growth hormones in the red meat they eat, maybe?

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One thing we know about Walter White is that he lashes out. Even the Walter we don't know much about (the early scientist Walt), we know that he once walked out on the love of his life and his business partner. We've seen him beat up punks in a store, flip out on his boss, blow up a jackasses car, kill two men, pleasure his wife during a school board meeting, public sex, borderline rape and blow up a drug lord's hang out in broad daylight.

When he explodes, it's the evil side coming out. When he punched the towel dispenser, it was an explosion of that rage, of the animal wanting to come out. The good Walt is happy that he's gone into remission. The evil Walt, aka Heisenberg, is absolutely furious.

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laz3000 said, "I know I sound condescending, but some of the threads really don't say anything that they shouldn't already post right here. That's just how I feel, but I really love all the newbies! Thanks for coming!"

I agree with you. And all of us regulars have posted things that are off topic. What they need to do is have this thing threaded like any normal talk forum. It is ridiculous that they have one thread for the show each week. They need to allow us to created threads, edit our posts, and respond to specific comments without saying "noah said "blah blah" and then commenting. It is really stupid but we just have to live with it.

I cannot be the only one that participates in dozens of talk forums around the net for topics I am interested in... hobbies... etc. This is THE WORST talk forum I have used since 1999.

It isn't our fault. It just sucks. The only good thing is that we don't have a moderator that over moderates and deletes shit he doesn't like. We could use some moderating but some forums go way overboard.

Let's just deal with what we have.

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Badgirl... I did not see the penis.

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skottey LOL, I was still dealing with the alcohol/tobacco business stuff.

Actually, I thought alot of your stuff was dead-on. Walt is bitter about his life. I do think Walt hates what he was, what he didn't accomplish, and even how he felt about himself then (pre-Heisenberg/cancer).

I think his hatred is really about himself and his circumstances, but he does like to take it out on different people/situations (the car burning, Gretchen, Jesse, etc). I don't think it's even registering with Walt about hating the world or society or what effect his actions have on society (except for his family), so you're right there.

I think you're completely right about mother issues, and that there are problems there if he didn't even tell his mother he had cancer. It might also be the root of why he's so timid and why he didn't achieve more or not go after Gretchen. Sorry guys, but a problematic mother-son relationship, especially a destructive, unloving one can really screw a guy up. But, hey, let's face it, for either sex, with either parent (mother, father), if there's a problem with your parent, they can do a lot of damage or derail your personality development pretty easily. Might explain why Walt seems to have a hard time accepting genuine feelings/warmth that others have for him. He acts like a deer in headlights in expressions of affection.

The family home blow up isn't a suprise because of Tuco's words, and it really is Walt's vulnerable spot as a drug manufacturer.

The baby prediction is a surprise, and sure not an impossibility. Would create distance betweeen Skyler and Walt (grief), and send her into the arms of Ted Bennecke for some comforting. Perfect set-up for an affair.

I don't think Jesse will turn on Walt, but I can see Walt dropping Jesse for a number of reasons. It may be greed (doesn't want to split the profits as much - he'll have Saul and dealers to pay); doesn't want to jeopardize Jesse's life (like he's done so many times); wants Jesse out of the drug business because he cares for his well-being, welfare.

In next week's preview, they show Walt chastising someone about buying the supplies all in one place, and it's not Jesse - the normal supply buyer. So, what's that all about? Is Walt cutting Jesse out?

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noah said "Skottey said: "actually you could say the same thing about tabacco companies, alcohol manufacturers, casinoes, strip clubs, porn sites, anything that can hurt a person. Add in there fast food & red meat." Skottey, what are you talking about? I get everything but the 'red meat' part. What are you some kind of vegan?? Red meat is awsome. I should know my family and I eat lots of it. Remember "It's whats for dinner.....YO!! You usually have some pretty insightful stuff, but that was just plain dumb."

No, I am not a vegan... haha... and I partake in at least a couple of those sins up there. I was merely stating a fact that there are a lot of things that hurt people. Red meat was just a food example I grabbed. I could have grabbed fried foods." The point is there are bad foods that cause cholesterol build up and people have heart attacks. Do the CEO's of slaughterhouses have it out for the world? NO.. and neither do any of the other companies and I don't think Walt hates the world. Like I said, it was just an example. You could take pretty much anything and make it look bad. Sorry to pick on beef... haha

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I actually like the set-up of this forum. Yes, it's kind of a free-for-all, but the freedom of expression is fantastic, for good or for ill. I'd hate to see some of the commentators be cut-off by a moderator as being too long, too inappropriate, off-topic or not directly responding appropriately to another commenter. Even when someone initiates a topic that is off-the-wall, I still like to read it even if no comment is necessary. Stimulates the grey cells. Freedom of expression, baby! I love it, even when it's crappy, idiotic and from another planet.

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blue runner

Sleeping outside in the desert? Hello it's freezing in the desert at night!!!


I live out here in NM..it's not that bad, sure it ain't florida ;)

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The real question this week: Where the hell is Skinny Pete? He crossed a river. I don't know Albuquerque or its environs, so I don't have a clue. Anyone want to hazard a guess?

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from what Jesse said... out I-40 to the casino about the only river near there is the Rio Puerco, which really isn't much of a river and he would of crossed that on 40 as it is before the casino

So he is headed out to a whole lot of nothing, cause there really isn't dick out there at all

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I have one prediction. I think Walt is going to tell Jesse the partnership is over, sell off the meth and close it down (as the previews show). Then after a while of house arrest, Walt is going to go stir crazy, go behind Jesse's back and start cooking again with a new flunky because he doesn't want Jesse to know that he's still cooking when he's "going to live". How do you think Jesse would react, if he discovered Walt had started cooking again? And with someone else?

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jamm54, Walt and Jesse are the Odd Couple for the 21st century, right? I know this may sound weird, but I WANT Jesse out. I want him to get out while he still can. I want him to take his earnings and move on with his life. Aaron Paul has stolen the spotlight from Cranston this season, but I really want the character of Jesse to get out. These are Walt's decisions that are going to bring him down. Jesse was a misdemeanor type of criminal and got lucky when Crazy 8 tried to snitch him out. (I hope most of you know that from season one.) He doesn't belong in the world that Heisenberg is creating. No one ever beat him up or tried to kill him until he came along.

Knowing Jesse though... I figure he is ready for more punishment and has taken some big steps toward being known as an enforcer. The blowfish wants everyone to fear him... even if he is just full of air. He wouldn't take kindly to Walt trying to push him out. He is Walt to Jesse, he is not Heisenberg. They know each other's masks. Let's not forget that Jesse was the one to shoot Tuco. He didn't kill like Walt did, but he actually might be building up to that. I know he isn't the person he's portraying, but he does want to be that.

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Hey crew! Does it make you mad that someone that probably isn't as big a fan as we are is going to win that $1000 and a walk-on part? It crushes my soul!

I might just hunt around ABQ when they start filming season 3. I know I sound like a lunatic, but I just think I am one of the biggest fans around. I just want to watch as they film or something. They film the damn things months in advance and I have to wait... and wait... and wait...

That's it! Who lives in ABQ and wants to give me the low down?

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Laz, Remember Walt blackmailed Jesse into taking him into the chef role when Jesse's cook got busted. threating to turn him in if he didn't agree.

Where you at Laz, I'm close enough to Abq. and can probably get the lowdown when they are filming. I know people ;)

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I want Jesse to survive Walt and his activities, too. But the way Jesse admires Walt's initially stated motive (financial security for his family which could be a moot point if he does survive), well, we all know Jesse's heart - he's always willing to "help". There's also a kind of father/son, mentor aura going on between them. I don't know that Jesse will let go of Walt so easily (unfortunately). Jesse does need someone to care about, and to be cared about himself. Walt is that person right now in Jesse's life - don't know that Jesse will be able to let that go. Of all the characters, my hopes go with Jesse because he started out the worst at the beginning of the series, and I hope he gets his chance.

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Quote by: zia on May 4, 2009 10:48 PM
from what Jesse said... out I-40 to the casino about the only river near there is the Rio Puerco, which really isn't much of a river and he would of crossed that on 40 as it is before the casino

Were they talking about the Route 66 Casino? Or, the Sky City one?
I thought Jesse had told Skinny Pete to head WEST on I-40 & go past the Casino with the arrows...???
I'm confused...did'nt they start out, in the ABQ??? And, is'nt the 66, EAST of Albuquerque?
LMAO, it does'nt take much to confuse me sometimes! *puts down my crack pipe & slowly backs away* Ha ha ha! =) Kidding!

But, yeah, Zia you're right...Rio Puerco is'nt much more, than a gully full of rocks! =\

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LMAO, laz3000! Is there any way we can "nominate" you as a write-in? LOL!
With your knowledge of the show & out-going personality, you should have entered!
You'd certainly have our votes! =)


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Jamm54 said: I have one prediction. I think Walt is going to tell Jesse the partnership is over, sell off the meth and close it down (as the previews show). Then after a while of house arrest, Walt is going to go stir crazy, go behind Jesse's back and start cooking again with a new flunky because he doesn't want Jesse to know that he's still cooking when he's "going to live". How do you think Jesse would react, if he discovered Walt had started cooking again? And with someone else?

My prediction is that Walt is going to try to get out of the meth business, but unfortunately he's in too deep to get out. He's got too many people (mainly Saul and his "associates") involved. He's gotten himself in way over his head and is going to have a hard time resuming a "normal" life.

I think his relationship with his wife is fixing to come to a rolling boil as well; she's going to find out sooner-or-later what he's up to (he can only lie for so long), then it's sayonara Skyler, "Flynn," and baby girl White. I think that's the whole irony of the show: he's become a criminal to help the family he ultimately loses.

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laz3000 said "Hey crew! Does it make you mad that someone that probably isn't as big a fan as we are is going to win that $1000 and a walk-on part? It crushes my soul!

I might just hunt around ABQ when they start filming season 3. I know I sound like a lunatic, but I just think I am one of the biggest fans around. I just want to watch as they film or something. They film the damn things months in advance and I have to wait... and wait... and wait...

That's it! Who lives in ABQ and wants to give me the low down?"

I would do the same thing if I lived out there. But you need to look into the local laws. They may have to get permits for filming at certain locations. It will have the time and date filed with the city or county. Especially if it on a public bench. some of the warehouse theft, or office type seasons, and other privately owned locations just require non-public deals with the property owner. But if they have sunshine laws like we have here in FL, you might get a film location in advance with date and time. That would be cool as heck.

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I've been reading the blog since season one, but have just decided to comment. I grew up in and around Albuquerque, so part of the allure of this show for me is to see the scenery of my home, since I live so far away now.

Anyways, in regard to the question as to whether the last show was shot west of Albuquerque...no it was not. If you listen to the podcast, you will know that it was shot just south of Albuquerque, about 2 miles out from the studio. Albuquerque Studios is located south of Albuquerque, if you take the last exit south off of I-25, which is Rio Bravo, turn east (left) then go up to the stop light and turn right (south), you will be on University. This road has recently been developed and heads south for a bit. This is where you will find the studios for Breaking Bad.

The scenery shots in this past episode include wide angles of the Manzano Mountains (to the east) and also of the volcanos to the west of Los Lunas.

I've been trying to figure out where Jesse's apartment is located in Albuquerque. I'm thinking it's somewhere around the Nob Hill area? But I can't be sure about that. I know that his auntie's house is in the Country Club area downtown, and Walt's house is in the northeast quadrant of town, but that's about all I know.

I know the show is often filmed downtown, especially the shots of the DEA activities and park benches, etc.

As far as a filming schedule, I don't know where to find that information. Sorry.

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weeya said " know the show is often filmed downtown, especially the shots of the DEA activities and park benches, etc.

As far as a filming schedule, I don't know where to find that information. Sorry."

I saw on a making of or something that they actually rented office space specifically for the panoramic view from downtown in the DEA office. In episode one they show Hank walking from one end of teh office to the other with a beautiful view of your city behind him.

That must be really cool to live in a city where a major series was filmed. My community filmed Cop and a Half in the 1990's in downtown Tampa. The first couple seasons of Hogan KNows Best was filmed in my community. Redbull's Flugtag was filmed here. And of course we have had some good professional sports here. Several Superbowls in Tampa. The Tampa Bay Rays (losers of the world series) play not far from where I live in my city of St. Petersburg. And The Lightning won the Stanley Cup and play in Tampa. No good TV series though. I wish we had our own Breaking Bad style show. It could be centurion woman who wants to go out with a bang and plots to blow up her nursing home. They could spend several seasons building up characters and releationships and then the very last sceen of the last episode is the big explosion!
I want my city on TV like that!

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Poor Walt, I love it when he thinks he's getting through to Jesse when he's teaching him how to build the battery. Taking a fatherly approach. What shall we use to conduct this beautiful current? What one particular element come's to mind? Then Jesse says WIRE!. Too funny! On a different topic, I think that one of the reasons that Walt hits the papertowel dispenser is if his insurance would have covered his treatment in the firstplace like it should have, he wouldn't be in this situation.

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Skottey-I liked your predictions for the end of this season. It could very well be that Walt comes home to find his house blown up, and no one was home at the time. That would be great if no one was hurt, just the house. The reason that Walt's glasses are in the evidence bag could be that he might be out doing "Heisenberg" business, because he wears sunglasses then, and he could have left his regular glasses at home. That almost made it look like Walt was killed in the explosion, but that won't be the case at all. In any case, I can't wait to see what happens, but at the same time, I don't want the season to be over! It should end with a pretty good cliffhanger though. Now that Walt might not die, the show can take on an entirely different meaning. Walt's reasons for doing all this can change. He might figure "I'm in this deep, I might as well stay in". And now that Saul is in the picture too, that makes it even deeper. When the series started, Vince Gilligan said something about having 50 or 60 episodes, which could mean at least three more seasons. I think that would be great. The writing is so brilliant that I don't think Walt's remission will make it any less good. I gotta tell you, when Walt got that news from his doctor, I was actually smiling, and I felt like an actual family member of mine was getting that good news. How often can you say that about a tv show? I hope the series doesn't end with Walt dying, and it looks like that might not happen now. Maybe he'll go to prison, or since Hank is his brother-in-law, maybe he'll get away with everything. Who knows? I just wanna strap myself in and hang on for the ride!

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diksee,
66 and sky city are both out west, is there a casino east? like btwn Clines corner and tiejas canyon

I don't think either on has arrows, that kind of makes me think of the old gas stations they used to have around here. That had the big arrows

Gully with rocks, yep that about sums it up, although they do have that old truss bridge with the route 66 historical sign there. ;)..whoa

and weeya calling it right... where they say they are and where they are.. the geography isn't quite matching up..the manzanos wouldn't be that big at that distance..but that's not too odd with shows and movies,..like in No country for old men... the bridge into Mexico was a bridge over i-25 in Las Vegas,nm

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and I guess some of new Terminator Salvation was filmed at the Abq studio over on University blvd. as well

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Skottey & James26: Very good end of season predictions that make a whole lot of sense. Especially Walt's glasses being in an evidence bag since he doesn't wear them when he's out playing Heisenberg. Another tell-tale your predictions could be accurate is in all that bagged evidence at poolside contained Skyler's hairbrush and makeup. I don't know a whole lot of women who leave home without these things in their purses, which indicates she left in a hurry, such as an emergency trip to have her baby. But then again she may be at work too (possibly with her legs wrapped around Ted), and Walt Jr. could be at school.

My predictions are similar that the cartel finds out who Heisenberg is for real, and where he lives, so they go to permanently put him out of business.

According to next week's preview, Walt has some doofus gathering supplies for him. Could Walt be severing ties with Jesse? If so, who'd get the RV? Hence, another possible scenario: Skyler finds out everything Walt's doing, and Walt finds out she's playing "hide the sausage" with Ted. They separate, and Walt turns his basement into a lab. Doofus comes over to cook without Walt and causes an explosion.

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There are no tribal casinos east of Albuquerque. Route 66 is Laguna Pueblo's casino and this is the first one you hit heading west on I-40 out of Albuquerque, about 10 miles west. It is located right where I-40 crosses the Rio Puerco. I can't recall if there are arrows in the parking lot, though. LOL. It's a huge complex with lots of lights, so there's no missing it.

I'm pretty sure the park where Badger got busted is at 10th and Park St. downtown (I used to practice softball here), and the building where Tuco was holed up and Walt blew up with the fulminated mercury is just east from the corner of 10th/Park on Park Street. If you google map "10th and park st., albuquerque, nm" you can look at street level photos of this area.

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bigfreakinnaz-Good call on Skyler's hairbrush and makeup. Maybe she goes into labor when Walt's not home, and maybe Walt Jr. tries to drive her to the hospital since there's no one else around to do it. He's not good at driving, as we saw before, but he might be Skyler's only option. Whatever happens, I think Walter will come home and see the destruction and assume the worst, but hopefully everyone will be safe.

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One more thing, I think Walt, in an extreme act of desperation to cover his tracks, blows up his own house. The teddy bear is shown behind Jesse's drum kit in one of the mini-episodes, so the bear is tied to Jesse in some way, perhaps as a gift from him to the baby?

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Hank finds out the cartel has Walt's identity..

Blows up Walt's home and stages Walt's death

brotherly love...

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Way off topic here, but any chance that Walt and Skylar are going to name the new baby "Crystal?"

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Skottey & James26: Very interesting theories on the last ep. with the pink bear, and all of the evidence in the bags. Question about Walt's glasses. It is true he many times puts the Heisenberg shades on, but I think I recall him replacing the shades with his regular glasses after Tuco beat his soldier to death. I think Walt keeps his glasses with him. Hmmmmm???

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sloe-OMG! I've been thinking the exact same thing since the first season, that Walt would want to name the baby Crystal!!! That would be awesome!

noah-I forgot about that. Maybe Walt does keep his regular glasses with him all the time. Or maybe he leaves them home this one time, or leaves in a hurry so he forgets them. I can't wait to see what happens!!!

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I could maybe see Skylar wanting to, seem like she was selling artsy stuff on ebay at the beginning.

Somehow I think Walt would object and Skylar would quiz him .."Why Walt" and he would have to come up with another bs lie as to why.

but oh my, wasn't it crystal proton radiography that he got his award in... might be tough to slid away from that one.

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middle name "Blue" ...lol

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LOL! Crystal Blue White!

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Why didn't they switch SIM cards? Jesse's phone had no service, but Walt's phone did. If they would have switched SIM cards, Jesse's ''phone'' would have had service, and Walt would not of had the phone call logged on his phone records (making it traceable to his wife and others). I would think Walt would have researched this issue.

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I read as many reviews as I can find after each episode. I saw this one and was wondering what you thought.. Seth Amitin of IGN writes: I'm no fan of predictability, but Walt's cancer was the one sure thing about Breaking Bad. It was inevitable. It was a pretty advanced stage of cancer. If he were to die of it, if the show had (or has?) the fortitude to kill their main character with the unrelenting, inevitable death that they had forecasted, wouldn't we all have a little more respect for this show than if he started getting better? In an unsure world, what happens when the one sure thing becomes unsure? The world becomes chaotic. Even in a fictional choatic universe, there has to be some order.


It would have been better though if the biggest twist of the episode—and maybe the season—weren't the biggest mistake Breaking Bad has made.

Any thoughts??

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jcal3 said "Why didn't they switch SIM cards?"

Different providers maybe. Some providers don't use SIM cards and work with certain phones. Where I live, there are some mansions on man made peninsula fingers where the people refuse to allow cell towers. So the result is that all providers except one don't work without standing outside, and even then it is hit or miss.

I used to have Sprint and they didn't even use SIM cards. They may now. But you would by default attach to your own provider and if you cannot pull a signal with your provider you may not be able to in the other phone either anyway.

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I disagree with that. I think now that Walt's cancer is going away, and he's realizing he's done all this for nothing, we will now see what he is really made of. If he is no longer a desperate man doing these things for the sake of his family after he dies, why is he still doing it? I think we've already gotten some insight into that this season. Walter has said how he's been scared his whole life, and he's watched everyone pass him up, and he's been screwed over by people (Elliott and Gretchen, etc.). Now he may continue to be a drug kingpin because he's addicted to the power. He likes the feel of it. For the first time in his life, he feels like he's in control of something. If it weren't for the cancer, he never would have experienced that. Maybe this was the plan all along, to have the cancer go into remission. See, the cancer is what made him "break bad" in the first place and try this new criminal life, and it's showing him that he enjoys it, so now he has a reason to continune it. I think it's actually pretty brilliant!

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Eric-

IGN has no business writing this. I doubt this Seth Amitin has the love and depth of knowledge for this show that many of us have. IGN is good for video game reviews, and even then they make a lot of errors. I don't take reviews on anything other than video games serious at IGN.

That whole bit is stupid anyway. I know oncology nurses and cancer survivors and miracles happen everyday.

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I agree with the comments that said "he's realizing he's done all this for nothing". That was my first thought when he hit the towel dispenser, my second thought was he is in Heisenberg mode and he likes the power and thought he had everything figured out and now it's not so clear any more. I mean really, WTF is he supposed to do now? Like someone else said its Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. No way does he drop out, he is in to deep. He may have said it's over, but unfortunately, other people are involved now and its not over by any means.

As far as the season finale, I liked skottey's take on it. I could see that happening. I don't see any of his family getting killed and I totally see Skyler going into labor. As far as the glasses, he could have a few extra pairs lying around. Still not sure how a few of the new characters coming up fit in. If I had to make a guess on who ends up getting killed yet this season, I would say Saul and Skinny Pete. I sure home Gomez doesnt end up figuring out who Heisenberg is before Hank does. I kinda like the Gomey character, but it's possible any one of them could get killed in the line of duty or get in the crossfires of whomever is coming for Heisenberg.

My favorite line from this episode: "You brought a meth lab to the airport?"

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I think the addition of Saul to Walter's "gang" came at a horrible time, right before he found out his cancer was going away. If Saul wasn't in the picture, it would probably be easier for Walt to get out of this game, but now that he's involved, Walt has to stay in this business, or else kill Saul.

It's true that Walt could have a few extra pairs of glasses laying around. My dad wears glasses, and he actually has a couple different pairs of them around the house, so it's entirely possible.

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I don't agree with that IGN-Seth guy's opinion. If he'd really watched "4 Days Out" and listened to the oncologist, a remission doesn't mean the cancer is over. Yes, the tumor shrunk tremendously, but Walt is not cancer-free. He still has it, and as laz has said there are never any guarantees about anything. The cancer could re-surge or not. Not until Walt is completely free of cancer cells or growth would I figure he no longer has cancer.

My mother was diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease and given 18 months. She died 6 months after the diagnosis which shocked the doctor completely. So, you never know.....part of it is the intangible part that spurs people or their bodies on to fight a disease or let go.

Walt was pretty inspired being Heisenberg, and as a few of you have pointed out, when Jesse asked him why he wanted to cook, that statement "I'M AWAKE!" said it all about Walt's state of mind and his spirit when he started this. He could have also added "I FEEL ALIVE!", maybe for the first time in his life. I think that's what has helped him fight the cancer and had an effect on the course of the disease. He may change in spirit, and again, that may affect the course the disease takes.

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jamm54-That would be very ironic if the Heisenberg part of Walter is what helped him fight the cancer. It's the evil side of him that has murdered people, yet it may have essentially saved his own life. Good call! :)

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My point being from my last comment is that I don't think the writers of Breaking Bad copped out at all on the storyline of Walt's cancer going into remission for the time being. Walt isn't cured yet, and it could be a whole up-and-down thing for a long time (I sound like I want Walt to die - I don't), cancer is just so undpredictable.

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You never know what inspires people's will to live. Sometimes it's hatred that keeps people going. Everybody's different.

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I agree, I don't think they copped out at all. Like I said before, it could have been Vince's plan all along to have the cancer go into remission, after it already caused Walter to become Heisenberg to a level that he can't get out of.

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I also dont agree with the IGN dudes take on Breaking Bad. How in the hell could cancer ever be a sure thing? With all the treaments and whatnot...you never know. Now Walt is told he is in remission and that is no certain thing either, not a guarantee of any sort that the cancer is not going to come back. We know that the writers of Breaking Bad like to keep us guessing, they aren't gonna close the story like this, that would be too easy. I loved the new twist, it showed us Walt has changed...he is Heisenberg, and he can't escape that now. It is who he has become. It's a brilliant addition to a story that just keeps getting better and better.

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I especially admired the teacher part of Walt explaining the theoretical dynamics of the man powered generator battery, and how the chemical reaction works from the "forged" battery.

I was literally mouthing "Copper.. Copper" right after Walt asked Jesse the question, only to find myself laughing hysterically after Jesse answered "Wire" for the element.

Golden!

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One of the previous posts above mentioning Walt might "..blow up his house in desparation..." Naaahh, I don't think so. he has enough expenses already that he has to shell out money for by taking out of the pot of his blue meth cash. The last thing he'd want to have to do is go out and find another house, and go further in debt.

I really think Walt hates what he has turned into. He pretty much admitted it in the RV with Jesse. If it weren't for him getting cancer, he would have never gone to the extremes and started producing a dangerous, addicting drug that can ruin the lives of many people. He never would have murdered the people that he did. He never would have lied to all those who love him, and thus put his marriage into a near shambles. He never would be looking over his shoulder to see if bad guys or cops are on his ass. But he looks at his reflection in the towel dispenser, realizing his cancer is now in remission, and thinks what a fuck up he's been all his life, and thinks "Shit, I can't even DIE right!

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What up to all my BB peeps! I spent my day finishing up some reports and golfing here in Kansas City. 250 yards! I was excited and I knew that you all wanted to know! Now, if only I could use those damn irons....

zia, skottey, and weeya thanks for the info on the show. I watched an interview where Cranston was saying filming would resume in August. I'm gonna have to figure something out and make my way down there. Throw on a wig, shave my beard and act like a groupie... don't tell my mother or father... or my kids... or my ex...

I still think that everyone is wrong and Walt is the villain in a classic comic book type story. He is transforming into his alter ego, Heisenberg. If I am right then his decision won't be based on being pulled into the drug game, but he will go after it. He will embrace it and "decide" that this is his chosen path. If I'm wrong, then he will be blackmailed into going back in. We'll see.

The finale has me all hyped up. The last three episodes are going to be adrenaline filled. I can't wait! We got four left. What do you guys think is going to happen in these last episodes?

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Amazing comments everybody.
This group is the shit.
Funniest episode of the season so far, sort of like a throw-back to season 1.
"How's it taste? Bad, huh?" Priceless. The fact that Aaron can deliver a simple line like this and make it hysterical is part of what makes this show so great.
"dune-buggie" was great too, Jesse seemed pretty into that idea...
Walt and Jesse's interactions and chemistry make the show for me. I sincerly hope that whatever direction the season ends up going in, be it Walt trying to cut Jesse out of the mix, whatever, I really hope they don't loose that.
The more moments like Walt holding up that fly-swatter in grilled the better.
One question though: Iv'e replayed it over and over and I can't for the life of me make out what Jesse says after they attempt to recharge the generator and it doesn't work. After he freaks out a little bit, repeating "no" and such he whispers something to himself. I believe it starts out with, "Why can't I just.." and then something else. If any one caught this I'd love to know.
Can't wait for the next episode, sounds like we're gonna get some Walt Jr/Skylar being a hussy drama. Hopefully some good old-fashioned twisted Hank humor as well.

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Some people have said that it was unrealistic for Walt and Jesse to be able to build a battery, but remember that Heisenberg's meth lab is not an ordinary one.

It is pretty much a mobile version of the same lab Walt uses at the high school. Walt would have Dymo-labeled plastic containers that have other non-meth related chemicals and components, one of them being galvanized zinc in the form of scrap metal nuts and bolts.

Judging by the amount of metal they were using for their battery, this would seem likely and he just needed Jesse to round up any coins he had as well as any other scraps of metal to give the battery as much power as possible.

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billyliar, I put the subtitles on and he says, "Why couldn't I have just gone to Santa Fe?" Remember he was going to see Georgia O'Keefe and her vagina paintings with Jane? LOL

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Anyone notice that Cap'n Cook likes Cap'n Crunch? LOL

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By Unforgiven on May 4, 2009 2:13 PM
Jess, however, is renting a new apartment, buying a big screen, satellite hook-up (did he ever get it working?) and a big bed. Well, the mattress anyhow. Hell, whoever said a 'bed' HAS to be up off the floor?

Unforgiven, the TV started working with the Better Call Saul TV ads. Jane and Jessie were in bed....the first time.

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Hello all, I know I can find something more productive to do than reading over 200 comments every week about fictional characters, but I'm as hooked on the show as all of you. Thanks for the post. I enjoy them.

I've been thinking about the series ending since Episode 1 season 2. Like all of you, I look for clues every episode. I think the pool looks more like the pool at the Hotel in El Paso where the DEA was making the deal with Tortuga.

What if Hank and Marie talked Walt and Skylar into taking a little vacation to El Paso while Hank wraps up some loose ends, celebrate Walts good medical news.? They would have all the items packed (extra glasses, etc) that you all have mentioned with them.

Remember Tuco's "Grill" that the two illlegals found in the river after Hank thru it away. They (relatives of Tuco) trace it back to Hank, follow him to the Hotel and attempt to kill him.

Someone said Marie's car is in the driveway. Well they could all be out to dinner, maybe Marie stole the pink bear and gave it to Skylar! :). All are safe and sound but what we see is the collecting of the evidence from the rooms destroyed in the blast.

I am always amazed at how the writers take an obvious situation, death, etc and come up with a way out. All suspicial is diverted from Walt and Jessie again. Just my rambling thoughts on the seasons finale show.

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Someone mentioned the irony of Walt and Tuco when Walt punched the towel dispenser. Maybe Walt took a hit of the Blue Meth like Tuco?

I like Laz with the Jekyl and Hyde theory. I believe drugs played a part in J & H also.

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Not a boring episode in the whole season! Not one - I call that superb storytelling.

My one hang-up is that damn pink bunny. I've got season 1 and I never saw it then. Was it in season 1? I'm kinda confused when people talk about it appearing in a "video" with Jesse playing drums in a garage? Was it a baby shower present? For the life of me, I don't remember a scene like that this season (Jesse, the drums, a bunny in the background). Can anyone pinpoint which episode that bunny first appears last season (if at all), and then this season (Season 2, Ep. 1 - I think)?

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I play golf, laz, so I'd be interested. 250? You lucky dog, only around 130-140 tops for me off the tee box. Can I make the excuse that I'm a woman? LOL. Wish I could drive that far - used to be a little more than now, but hey, I'm getting older.

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By jamm54 on May 6, 2009 12:35 AM
that damn pink bunny..................I'm kinda confused when people talk about it appearing in a "video" with Jesse playing drums in a garage? Was it a baby shower present? For the life of me, I don't remember a scene like that this season (Jesse, the drums, a bunny in the background)........

Because it wasn't,it was in an original minisode,check them out ,kinda cool.


btw sorry about your Mother, that's really sad.

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Blue Runner thanks for the info on the bunny, now I know where to look!

Thank you for the condolences. It was very sad, and painful, but she's not suffering anymore, and for that I am grateful to god and the universe.

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I love this show, been a huge fan since i stumbled upon episode one, reading these posts really make me think a little more in depth about different parts of the show or how to interpret the symbols and characters portrayed in this great drama/thriller. So i decided to make an account now to try and get a little more involved. Do you guys just check up on the blog every little while or what, how do you know when someone has answered your questions. I guess i will just check back. So stoked for the next episode, cant wait. and my favorite part of 2-09 was when Walt says to Jesse..."You said it yourself..." and the look on Jesse's face is priceless as he pauses and says "A Robot..?"

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I am addicted to this series. I've only seen 5 or 6 episodes, but I plan to catch up. Moral dilemmas, dark humor, suspense--what will I do when this ends? I'm savoring every episode. So far, "4 Days Out" is my favorite. Yes, Hank is catching on, but it would be a great twist if he could be the one to help Walt escape prison--actually, that might be too predictable. I love that I can't figure out Jane--she can't be that naive. I know she'll do something surprising. I'm a high school teacher, so I'm relating to everything more than you can imagine! And the music! Incredible!

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Thanks for the answer laz! That makes sense, how could he forgive himself for missing the,
"Vagina paintings, or just...painted, I don't know."

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Thanks for the clear up laz. I couldn't figure out what he said either on any of my TVs, even after cranking the volume up and repeatedly playing it. I didn't think to use the closed captioning. Cool.

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With only four episodes left, a lot is going to have to happen to fulfill all these predictions from everybody here! I wonder if the producers would surprise us all with a big treat and make the season finale a 2 hour episode? How sweet would that be? I know they didn't do it for the end of season 1, but now there's no writer's strike, and there is undoubtedly a bigger fan base than last year.

The only other family member I share enthusiasm for this awesome show with is my sister's husband. He has every episode on his DVR. She's a cop, and doesn't care for it a whole lot. My brother liked it, but doesn't watch it all the time because he doesn't have cable or a dish (no computer either), so he's had to go to his friend's place to see it, but says his wife is exactly like Marie and can't stand her!

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4justice, I thought it might be someone else's pool, but I went back and looked at Walt's pool in the pilot and the furniture, and then I looked at the aftermath in the openings this season and they were pretty much the same. I need to get a life, huh?

I hope the writers or continuity person didn't screw up and that bunny is in the Twaughthammer video for no good reason. That would suck since we have been talking about it all season.

skottey, you have to think like Walt! Quick! Subtitles!

jamm54, I've been lifting weights for a month to be able to hit that far. I hope I can improve more.

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bigfreakinnaz, a 2 hour episode! That would be friggin awesome!

I live in Kansas City and told my brother about the show, who told my sister, who told my brother-in-law, who told his sister, who told her husband and they live in Topeka. They came to the city to see my sister's new baby and they saw me wearing BB paraphernalia and asked me about it. It turns out they started having friends over on Sunday nights to watch it. Sweet!

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Hey Laz, When you say you want Jesse out. I'm thinking that he will make it out, he is just smart enough and with a little help from Jane, he can make it. Remember when his Mom told him to "Straighten out his life" when they where at his Aunt's house. I think that is going to be a path that will be traveled down. Dont get me wrong Jesse is one F'ed up Kid, but he dose have some redeemable qualities. I could be wrong here, but I get the feeling that is why Jane is in Jesse's life now. We'll have to wait and see.

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Hey, Whats a this talk about a Pink Bunny? I dont remember seeing any Pink Bunny, you all mean Pink Bear w/missing left eye dont you. There was no Pink Bunny floating in the Pool. Help me out here.

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R.W., yeah pink bear.

I still don't think Jane is in for the long haul. She will might continue for a little while, but Walt is the central character and Hank seems to be his nemesis. I think Jesse is like Robin. "Watch me, but don't get in the way" kind of thing. I mean you guys know I love Aaron Paul's character, but we all seem to want him to escape. If he goes all the way down it will be because of Walt. He just needs some therapy and someone to believe in him again. I doubt that is Jane. One substance abuser in cahoots with another just brings about a Whitney/Bobby Brown situation. His family kind of just left him out in the cold. It's like his parents said, "We screwed up the first one, now let's try to do better with this one." It isn't working because the kid is obviously smoking some pot.

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What I meant is that Walt is like Batman and Jesse is like Robin. You guys got that, right? Sure you did.

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According to the preview on this website, I guess we'll all finally meet and find out who Jane's dad is. It said something about her hiding her relationship with Jesse from him. With that said, I believe she'll be trying to straighten Jesse out. My reasoning is that she obviously likes Jesse, and enjoys having her new boy-toy (with money) living right next door. She knows from past experience how the drug world goes, and fully knows Jesse is up to his eyeballs in it. Since she is in drug rehab (most likely because of her dad's influence), she's not going to risk failing because of what Jesse's involved in. She apparently also values her dad's approval, and doesn't want any confrontation with him, and certainly none with him and Jesse. She knows she's got it going on, and will do whatever she can to keep it.

But this now poses another question. Suppose she has success in turning Jesse around and straightening him up? This honey likes money, and if he's not moving meth anymore the well's gonna dry up pretty quick. No cash = Jane telling Jesse "See Ya!!"

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Hey guys please check out my new Breaking Bad forum: http://greymatter.forumotion.net/

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Yeah, without cash Jesse will have to buy generic store-brand Cheerios instead of Cap'n Crunch with Crunchberries for Jane's morning-after-sex breakfast!

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Hey Laz, On Jesse's Parents, they have reached their threshold of tolerating Jesse's shit. Their position is they tried to help him, it did'nt work out and now if Jesse is going to straighten out his life, its all on him. This is a typical Parent/ Son relationship gone awry. Jesse needs to grow up and get with the program. His Parents cant help him now, he's beyond their help. Jesse is at that Crossroads of life, he needs to have a wake call now that will bring him round. He has gone through some serious Shit so far, then again maybe he is beyond the point of no return?

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I hope Jesse's character is in the full run of the series with an escape at the end. Jesse is kind of the witness to Walt's life as a criminal, and a good use of comparison.

If Walt gets "darker", how he behaves, his choices, and treats Jesse and Jesse's reaction to those changes, will be a great way to illustrate that. Plus, well, they just can't take Jesse away! Walt may be the brains of the operation, but Jesse's the heart. I could see Jesse acting as both an anchor and an irritant to Walt. Anchoring him to maintain some semblance of heart, and an irritant because he will be a reminder of what he once was (teacher, mentor, decent).

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Gree-c-Canadian-Cooker, welcome to the forum! I just check back here a few times a day to see what people have said. There's no e-mail alerts or anything to let you know if people responded.

laz-I loved the Batman and Robin reference. Always watched Batman when I was little! :)

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Has everyone seen the minisode with the mysterious pink teddy bear? Twaughthammer...lol. Too funny. Badger singing!

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RobPamc, my opinion is still out to lunch. I can't believe I read the spoilers! I feel like a kid who snuck a peek at his birthday presents... completely guilty. I don't know if they are reliable, but I feel like crap now.

I know some of us don't like the way the forum is run, but I really like the camaraderie here. We all love this show and we get to see all of the "extras". I read all of the interviews and listen to the podcasts. It feels like home. *Tears* *Sniffles* *I love you guys*

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LOL! We love you too, yo!

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Just re-watched #9 with the headphones. Thought I was gonna lose it when I finally clearly heard what Jesse said after pounding the dash when the engine gave out. Brought tears to my eyes and a sign that he's a shoo-in for a supporting actor nod next Emmy's. After settling down post outburst he says to himself "why couldn't I have just..gone to Santa Fe?" Breathtaking. This is top drawer writing. Oh, and the soundtrack didn't hurt, yo.

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Where do you see the mini-sodes? Are they different than the podcasts (where it's talking, no picture)?

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I love this forum group, too! VERY nice people to hang out with and talk to.

Burbank Bill I missed seeing your video submission - came to it too late, my bad. : o(

Would still like to see it - can you email it to fremontjan@hotmail.com?

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jamm54, got to the top where it says "Breaking Bad Main", click it: there is a tab above the main picture that says "Video", click it; On that page there are tabs and a scroll on the right to watch the original minisodes and recaps and stuff.

Is that what you were looking for? or did I just blow a bunch of hot air?

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jamm54: The minisodes are on the BB blog page. "Fallicies" is the one I was talking about

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Thank you both - you both gave me the right info, and I think Eric pointed me to the specific one about the pink bear. Thanks, guys!

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Thanks James26, ill just check back from time to time. So episode 9 had me confused at the end, i know it could be interpreted in different ways, but i will just wait to find out i suppose. Also anyone know if this is the last season...? Thanks

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Thanks James26, ill just check back from time to time. So episode 9 had me confused at the end, i know it could be interpreted in different ways, but i will just wait to find out i suppose. Also anyone know if this is the last season...? Thanks

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No worries jamm54. That's what we're here for! lol.

For the longest time I thought Aaron Paul was the, "you're getting a Dell dude" guy. I googled it today and was so relieved to see that he's not. The performance in "4 days out" by Paul was some of the finest acting I've seen. He's got a very bright future ahead of him, yo!

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Gree-c-Canadian-Cooker: They've signed on for a 3rd season

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Hello Fellow Breaking Bad Posters.

A little off topic here but how many others out there got a Breaking Bad Poster sent to them from Clayton Neuman?

I got mine in the mail the other day. I hung it up in the office first and my wife said...."Uh uh, you are not putting that in here!" So I decided to put it in the garage instead above my tool work station. It gets me motivated to work on something in the garage when I see it.

Its a picture of Jesse and Walter sitting in folding chairs out in the desert with their full cook gear on and each guy is holding a gun!

I love it!!

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I got that poster! It's huge! Right now I can't put it up anywhere (house for sale and buyers may get the wrong idea - LOL). But I love it. Can't wait for the day that I can! Jesse's holding a bat, I think.....have to look at it again.

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Eric-LOL on Jesse looking like the Dell Dude! I used to think Jesse was the guy who played Adrian on Nip/Tuck a few years ago, but then it clicked that I saw him on the X-Files before!

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What a fucking mess this has become...

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Unforgiven-Do you mean the show, or this forum???

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You guys got a poster! Dagnabbit! I want a poster! I know I got a hat, a shirt, and a coin already, but I want a poster, too! Call me selfish. I don't care. I wish I could throw a fit like my kids do. If Clayton wasn't such a good person I might go Tuco on him or something. JK

Thanks for everything Clayton!

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laz3000, I love reading your posts almost as much as watching BB. You pointed out that Hank created Walt. That was brilliant.

I really enjoy sharing the experience of this awesome show. You guys are all very insightful. Lots of funny lines in this episode, but, for me the most touching was Jesse saying "Why didn't I just go to Santa Fe?"

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Forgot to add to my last post...I had a movie in my Netflix queue forever and it just made its way to my mailbox last week. "Copenhagen." It's about Heisenberg and his meeting with another physicist in Copenhagen. They were discussing Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle all through the movie. It's a great rental for a BB fan. Here's a quote from Heisenberg's work: "In the sharp formulation of the law of causality-- "if we know the present exactly, we can calculate the future"-it is not the conclusion that is wrong but the premise."
--Heisenberg, in uncertainty principle paper, 1927
Kinda cool when you think about how Walter White/Heisenberg's careful calculations have produced mostly just chaos. Obviously Walter White had read Heisenberg's work, but I don't think he grasped its full message when he first took Heisenberg's name as a pseudonym. He thought he could cook some meth, make some money...end of story. But everything has spun out of control in every conceivable direction. Even his impending death, of which he had become so sure, is now in doubt. I liked how several of you guys commented on the fact that water was a recurring theme in this episode. Uncertainty is a running theme in this entire series.

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I got contacted by Clayton Neuman via e-mails to get the hat and shirt. All I have to do is contact him with my name and address and they'll send them to me, but I'm a bit leary giving out my private info. I guess that's silly, and I probably have nothing to fret about. I really would love to have a poster!

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OK! MY NAME IS TRIP!!!
THIS SHOW ROCKS!!!! IT IS COMPELLING AND CAPTERVATING. IT IS RIGHT UP THERE NEXT TO THE SERPRANO'S LOL. JESSIE AND HISINBURG!!! A.K.A AS WALT!! THE PROFESSOR!!!! WOW GREAT ACTING!!! I M GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY AS ACTORS KNOW THERE ROLES!! IT IS GOOD TO SEE A SHOW THAT EXPRESSES HOW IT IS REALLY IS OUT THERE IN THE DRUG WORLD!!! LIFE OUT THERE SUCKS! I M GLADE I SEE A SHOW THAT CAPTERVATES THAT TO THE TEEEEEE! LOL. JESSIE REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE I KNOW PERSONALY AND LET ME TELL YOU THE STUFF JESSIE GOES THROUGH IS THE SAME STUFF THE PERSON I KNOW WENT THROUGH ON A REGULAR BASSIS. THERE IS NO MANUAL ON HOW TO BE A COOK AND A DRUG DEALER!!! LIKE I SAID I 'M HAPPY TO SEE A SHOW THAT EXPRESSES HOW IT IS IN THE REAL YO!!!! I FEEL THESE DAYS WE NEED A SHOW LIKE THIS TO DETURE TEEN'S FORM EXPLORING THE IDEA THAT BEING A COOK AND A DRUG DEALER IS COOL!!!!!! I JUST WISH THERE WAS A SHOW LIKE THIS WHEN I WAS GROWING UP!!! MABE PEOPLE LIKE MY FREIND WOULD NOT WANT TO GROW UP TO BE SOMEONE LIKE TONY MONTANA THE NORTORIOUS SCARFACE!!!!!
LIKE I SAID EARLIER THE SHOW ROCKS!!!! YO!!!!!SHOW CHECK IT!!! KEEP UP THE GOOD!!!! IN KEEPING IT REAL YO!!!!!
THANKS!!
TRIP

HOPEFULY THIS SHOW WILL CONTINE NEXT SESSON.

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By James26 on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM
Unforgiven-Do you mean the show, or this forum???
The forum - just cracks me up is all.

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Quote by: laz3000on May 6, 2009 5:16 PM
Call me selfish. I don't care. I wish I could throw a fit like my kids do.

LMAO!! When it comes to this show...there's NEVER too much, of a GOOD thing! So, go right ahead...we UNDERSTAND!!! In fact, we'll prolly join ya! LOL! =)

BTW, trip...you're in luck! They've already announced, there's gonna be a third season! Yayyy!

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laz... don't feel alone ... I've been reviewing the first season myself.

The were comments about timeline... in the "Grey Matter" episode ... when Gretchen asks Skylar, when's she due.. does she say 2 weeks or 10 weeks?

Guess I'm going to watch "A No-Rough-Stuff-Type Deal" now

Friday I'll go to the Georgia O'Keffe Vagina Museum. It's free on friday evenings.. who can pass up free vagina ;)

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you're in luck! They've already announced, there's gonna be a third season! Yayyy!

yippee.. !!

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sweetposey, thanks for the comment. I very much appreciated it. diksee, let's cry on 3. 1... 2...

Do any of you have any ideas that you would like to see incorporated into the show? I do.

Have any of you seen American Beauty? Kevin Spacey performs like a pro. There is a part where he "awakens" and starts to workout to whip himself into shape. I think Walt would do well to put pressure on his body the way he does with his brain. Since he is turning into this villainous maniacal character why not give him even more depth and push his boundaries in another way. Show that he is The Enforcer. That would be regal.

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zia, too funny! I think this show created a lot of O'Keefe fans. 99% of them men, of course. I remember watching that episode and it was 10 weeks. I had to go back and rewatch it. I don't care what anyone says "rewatch" is a word.

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This was a great episode, (I usually try to watch every episode twice, especially since I usually can't hear it very well in my dorm room) I especially liked the music in this episode, this season has been missing a bit of the great music selection I remember from season 1.

Jesse and Walt's relationship is growing and deepening to unseen-levels. This is abundantly clear at the end of the episode with the whole "I trust you" exchange, great powerful stuff. The whole escapade in the desert was enthralling, and the desperation of Walt in his "situation" made it all the more exciting and interesting. Walt was going back to what he originally set out to do, make some cash for his people. I also found the right bit of humor, in the right times (The robot joke), not slapstick stuff, but just a pure Walt-Jesse moment. A few episodes of the first season still remains my favorite, but this episode in particular was awesome. I was on a roller-coaster of emotion, from the sadness of Walt leaving Jesse at the airport (for the last time?) to the the pure joy of watching Walt and his family get the news from Dr. Delcovoli.

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I realize, the question & replies were posted a long time ago...
But, wanted to add, I've enjoyed everyones' thoughts & theories on why Walt punched out his reflection, and, want to agree with many of you.

To quote the song, "Golden Slumbers"(?) by the Beatles:
"Once there was a way, to get back homeward.
Once there was a way, to get back home..."

IMO, sometimes HOME is more about an attitude, than an actual place of dwelling...

We've all had those moments, that totally uproot our "ideas" of how our lives should be/should have been lived out.
Bit by bit & layer by layer, some of us here, have started to reveal more, of what's inside of ourselves & what we've been through & had to endure.
Have we not all, had those moments, of wanting to pound our fists into the wall, screaming inside,
"WHERE IS THAT HAPPY LIFE, EVERYBODY ELSE GETS TO LIVE, THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE?!?"
Walt has realized, he can never return "home" It will NEVER be the same, to him, no matter how much he pretends, or, shoves those bad memories away in his mind.
Life had bullied him & pushed him back into a corner, to the point he felt he had to come out fighting...unfortunately for him...
It was to, the point of no return & now he feels trapped, once again.

Sorry...usually I try to be light-hearted & goofy... and...annoying. ;)
But, this is the deeper side to me. Hope you understand it.
Hugs to ya'll...and, thanks for putting up with me.



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*Flings self down, kicking & screaming*
I WANT IT NOW!! I WANT IT NOW! ;)
As per "Dewie Vision!" LMMFAO!!

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*Flings self down, kicking & screaming*
I WANT IT NOW!! I WANT IT NOW! ;)
As per "Dewie Vision!" LMMFAO laz!!

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BLAST the administration, for NO EDIT BUTTON!
*grumble-grumble! Rassin' frassin'!* >=\
Argh! And...LOL!

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I took Walt punching the metal.......thing as 1 of two things

either

A. Anger as in "what the heck did i just do all that for!?" He almost just got himself killed in the desert. Not to mention how close he just got himself to getting himself killed a few times before, not to mention the killings he himself has commited and the broken fences he developed with his family.

or

b. It was just a rush of adrenaline over the excitement of the realization of what he had just been told. The "old" Walt had lots of anger buried every day deep inside (the car wash, the disruptive student, Hank taking all the attention at his birthday party etc......) The new Walt doesn't do that anymore, he just lets it out.

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I took Walt punching the metal.......thing as 1 of two things

either

A. Anger as in "what the heck did i just do all that for!?" He almost just got himself killed in the desert. Not to mention how close he just got himself to getting himself killed a few times before, not to mention the killings he himself has commited and the broken fences he developed with his family.

or

b. It was just a rush of adrenaline over the excitement of the realization of what he had just been told. The "old" Walt had lots of anger buried every day deep inside (the car wash, the disruptive student, Hank taking all the attention at his birthday party etc......) The new Walt doesn't do that anymore, he just lets it out.

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Something that is a bit odd about this episode.

At the beginning Marie is whining about the clinic not being that great. Reality is she was the one who recommended it

She just likes to whine , I guess ;)

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zia...LMAO! It's prolly 'cuz she likes to whine...*sigh*
According to Pop-Eye..."Wimmin Is A Myskery!"
So, I really can't add: You know us females! LOL LOL LOL! ;)

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First off I liked the first season much better, especially Walt getting even with anyone who messed with him. I am pissed to learn their are only 4 more episodes left, what the hell I cant wait another year.

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Any guesses who Jane's dad may be? Hard to say, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was one of Hank's DEA buddies (such as Gomez?). I would totally freak out if it was "Ken Wins".

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By laz3000 on May 6, 2009 9:08 AM
4justice, I thought it might be someone else's pool, but I went back and looked at Walt's pool in the pilot and the furniture, and then I looked at the aftermath in the openings this season and they were pretty much the same. I need to get a life, huh?

Thanks Laz3000. As I said earlier we all need to get a life, but I can't find anything better to do than read 258 posts plus surf the internet for BB info.

It is fun to throw out "what if" option. That is what I was doing. I am always amazed how the opening scenes and previews have you thinking one way and the show turns on it's head.

So sit back and enjoy and let's see where the writers take us.

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diksee...I loved your comments about why Walt beat the crap out of the towel dispenser in the restroom: "Walt has realized, he can never return "home" It will NEVER be the same, to him, no matter how much he pretends, or, shoves those bad memories away in his mind." And I believe, as others have stated here, that Walt likes Heisenberg too much to EVER let him go completely. He will never be able to just be the sad little chemistry teacher again. He's as addicted to the rush he gets from being Heisenberg as his customers are addicted to his meth. Anybody notice in this episode that the meth wasn't blue anymore?

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Can anyone tell me how I would email Clayton Neuman for the poster, t-shirt, and hat??

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Eric, those items were prizes from some of our posts and things of that nature.

sweetposey, the meth wasn't blue! I'm colorblind! I can't tell! If that's true then maybe it's a tell of Walt's mood. He was sad (blue) and now it's changing with the diagnosis. No one point out that he got his diagnosis after they cooked. I know that. I just thought it might be like a mood ring, ya know. A tell of things to come. Interesting...

What color was it then? Could it have just been the lighting?

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OH MY FUCKING GOD I HAVE LOVED THIS DAMN SHOW SINCE IT FIRST CAME ON GREAT STUFF LOVE JESSE AND HIS ACTING REALLY CONVENINCEING CAN NOT WAIT TILL SUNDAY ROCK ON!!!!!!!!BREAKING BAD BABY!!

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PEOPLE U HAVE TO JUST LOVE THIS SHIT MAN IT'S GOOD

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Thanks Eric. So excited to hear that. This show has came a long way for me since i never heard about it at all and just ended up watching the first episode because of B Cranston... I am now obsessed and if i miss an episode im just waiting on surf the channel until someone leaks the missing episode. Jesse and Walt have some real chemistry going now, and im not just talking meth labs, they have struck a real friendship and you know despite the differences these individuals have, they will be there for eachother and they piss each other off but still make for a good combination of skills and smarts.

ps - laz3000 im up in canada wondering where you get the breaking bad paraphernalia.

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yes it was blue

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yes, it was blue... check out the photos from this ep.

The smoke coming from the RV..wasn't that blue on my tv ;)

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YES THIRD SEASON!!!!!!!! THAT MEANS WALT DOES NOT GET CAUGHT!!! MABEE IN THIS NEW SEASON JESSIE MIGHT GO TO A- N.A. MEETING!!! WITH BAGER THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!! THE SPIN OFF OF THAT WOULD BE FUNNY TO WATCH!!! IF HE WOULD FINALY GET IT!! OR THROW HIM IN FARTHER INTO HIS ADDITION!!! THEN IF IT WENT THE OTHER WAY JUST TO VSEE THE ENDOENDO'S MESS WITH HIS MIND LIKE KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!! THAT WOULD BEE FUNNY IF THIS ONE WAS INCERTED WHEN THE ATM MACHINE FELL ON THE DOPE FEEN'S HEAD AND JESSIE FREAKS OUT!!!! I CAN JUST SEE JESSIE USE LINE " NO MATER WHAT!!! YO!!!! THAT WOULD REALY IFASIZE THE STRUGLE!!! OF HIM RELIZING THAT THIS KIND OF LIFE MIGHT NOT THE LIFE HE DREAMED IT WAS GOING TO BE!!! AND MABE THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO LIVE!!!! ANY WAY THIS NEW SESSION PLAYS OUT!! JESSIE AND WALT ARE IN FOR A TRIP!!! CAUSE IT IS ONE HELL OF A RIDE!!!!!
TILL NEXT COMMENT SEE YOU THEN YO!!!!!
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SORRY ABOUT THE SPELLING!!
DUE!!!
MABE I SHOULD PROOF READ WHAT I TYPE BEFORE I SEND IT!!! YOU KNOW? YO!! LOL. I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED TO SEE HOW THEY WROTE OUT DANNY ( HIS HEAD ON A TURTLE ) DAM CAUSE DANNY REALY KNOWS FIRST HAND HOW IT IS OUT THERE AT LEAST HOW IT IS ON THE STREETS OF L.A.
HAS ANY ONE SEEN DANNY TATTOO ON HIS CHEST ? IT TOOK OVER 3 WEEKS TO DO THAT ONE!!!! ANY WAYS YO I WILL MAKE SHURE I CHECK THIS THING YO BEFORE I SEND IT!
THANKS YO!
TRIP

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I WANTED TO LET THE SHOW SETTLE IN BEFORE I POSTED IM GETTING TIRED OF WALT YELLING AND BELITTLEING JESSIE IT JUST DOES NOT SIT WELL WITH ME THEY SHOULD BE FRIENDS BY NOW AND FRIENDS DO NOT TREAT FRIENDS THAT WAY. IT REMINDS ME OF AMERICAN CHOPPER WHERE SR ALWAYS YELLS AT JR HATE IT ..OTHER THAN THAT WE ARE IN FOR A GREAT END TO THE SEASON HOLD ON

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yo-- we care less on spell checking.

but all caps? that's considered shouting

jesse seems to have laid down the meth pipe, looks like he only does it when he has a dirty deed to do..

still smokes his weed... but that's like going 10 mph over the speed limit in NM... oh wait the speeding is a bigger fine

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i hope Jesse dosn't start smoking that meth again. That crap is so brutal up here on the island. More and more kids are looking for it and they just keep getting younger. I hope that this show brings more awareness to the fact that Meth is taking over these streets up here and kids younger than ever are falling for this shit. The weed is good though i like to see him smoking the weed. Probably nothing compared to the good BC bud we got goin up here lol.

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I hated episode 09, it was awsome but the two calls jesse made with walt's cell is killing me. Moreover, the fact that he is getting better means that he would be less willing to go to extremes, this is if nothing else forces him to continue with cooking. Walt's coughing could be due to the chemicals although the risk is minimal because they seem to use masks and a small fan for ventilation . The RV dose not seem to be a good place to cook the amount of meth they produced in episode 09, it (the RV) is small and the fumes from the chemicals are all hazardous in one way or another.

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arsenik...I was thinking about this during the last episode, it shows lots of smoke coming out of the RV during the cooking process. The inside of that RV must be a huge hazardous waste site! Even all the furniture, curtains, walls, etc., will be emitting hazardous waste. A single fan is not going to solve this problem. The premise of the show is Walt's cancer, but I would be more worried about his and Jesse's prolonged exposure the hazardous materials---lol. And the environmentalist in me is wondering where they are disposing all their waste materials? Down Albuquerque's public works? Ha! Wouldn't be the first time!

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Arsenik, Weeya, Hey guys Walt and Jesse are outlaw Meth producers, they dont have time to worry about the environment and Hazardous toxic waste disposal. That stuff no doubt just gets dumped out some where in the vastness of the boonies. I mean come on now, can you honestly see these two Jokers rolling up to a Local Hazmat recycling center and dropping off their Hazardous waste? Remember "The ends justify the extreme".

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R.W., liked the last comment. Funny.

Gree-c-Canadian-Cooker, as for right now I don't believe there is any BB paraphernalia to be found unless you look on e-bay for some homemade duds.

Thanks everyone for clearing up that blue meth thing. It had me going for a minute.

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That slut Krysten Ritter who plays Jane was on Chelsea Lately last night on E!, and ALL she was talking about was sex! She was there to promote BB, a show that is NOT about sex at all, and all she was saying was "I did a couple sex scenes", "People were falling from the ceiling trying to see it because my sex scenes were amazing", "I've done sex scenes before", "I've had sex in real life but not with a bunch of people watching", "I really love sex". What a slut! And what a goddamn disgrace to this amazing show. I hope her bitch ass gets fired. This is the best show on tv, and then this little cunt comes along and has to sex it up by going on talk shows making it seem like some gay-ass teen show about sex! I now officially hate the actress and not just the character! She is RUINING Breaking Bad! Oh, and I also saw a clip of her on Gossip Girl. Oh yeah, that's a really good show. A stupid teen show about sluts. Get her slutty ass off of BB! She's ruining it!!!

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Hey Laz, Thanks, Yeah I do have my Moments. Now (James26) What is your problem-o with Jane. She is a Young 20 something, exploring the depths of her Sexuality, get over it. She is a sideshow in the overall big picture. She was produced to help Jesse round out his character, help round off some of those rough edges. Not to worry, Jesse will not become P-Whipped - I hope?

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My problem USED to be with only the character of Jane, but now my problem is with the actress who plays her. What the hell kind of represenation is that of this amazing show? Think about it. It's no secret that BB doesn't have a huge audience, then you have this little slut going on a talk show, basically whoring it up, making it look like that's what the whole show is about. How is that going to make the show look to a wider audience? They'll think it's just another show about sluts or something. I guess Krysten Ritter is the only person from the show that Chelsea Handler could get on her pathetic show. Bryan Cranston or Aaron Paul would probably never go on there. So she has to get the absolute worst character on the show to be the representative of Breaking Bad, and all she talks about the whole damn interview is sex. Now you tell me, what is that going to make people think about Breaking Bad if they haven't seen it before?

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Sorry, sorry, sorry - a million times, I'm sorry!

I went back and watched this episode again last night. The meth WAS blue...I apparently just noticed the white bag and color of the tote they were storing the stack of bags in. I apologize, guys!!

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James26: The Movie and T.V. industry is littered with less than wholesome individuals that have been involved in much worse than K.R. This character is never going to be a main cog in this show, and BB is far better and bigger than K.R. She won't-------------no she can't do anything to ruin the show. Not going to happen.
R.W. Very funny post,yo!!

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I agree, noah, that she can't completely ruin the show, because it's too good for that. It just pisses me off that this element (no pun intended) is now involved in the show. Kinda funny how I have no problem with murderous drug dealers like Tuco or strung-out assholes like Spooge and Skank, yet I hate Jane. I think it's because I'm afraid they'll try to make her a main part of the show, one of the "good guys" like Walter and Jesse, and I can't find myself rooting for her one bit. Her appearance on Chelsea Lately makes me even more fearful that she'll stick around. I really, really, REALLY hope that she doesn't last beyond this season. She's the only thing about the show that I despise!

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James26. Q. Why are you watching "E" to begin with? That's a chick show. You know like Oprah or the View. Come on man, my suggestion is to limit your selection of Television viewing. For me on Sunday night TV viewing, its all about Breaking Bad. When the season ends I'll go back to the World Poker Tour...

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LOL! I wasn't actually watching E! I just happened to flip across it and saw Krysten Ritter and said to myself "Hey, that's Jane. Let's see if she has anything worthwhile to say about the show". When I saw she had nothing to talk about but sex, I changed the damn channel!

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Hey, BB fans! I missed "Better Call Saul" and had to make do with the recap, but this last episode was great. If you've ever run out of drinking water and suffered serious dehydration, you probably felt the same creeping panic that I did watching this ep.
Jessie's back pain was possibly his kidneys starting to ache from dehydration, not the cot. Great comic relief lines, and the tinfoil cell antenna-LOL! I would like to see MythBusters build a battery like Walt and Jessie did, to see if it would really work.

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Hey, BB fans! I missed "Better Call Saul" and had to make do with the recap, but this last episode was great. If you've ever run out of drinking water and suffered serious dehydration, you probably felt the same creeping panic that I did watching this ep.
Jessie's back pain was possibly his kidneys starting to ache from dehydration, not the cot. Great comic relief lines, and the tinfoil cell antenna-LOL! I would like to see MythBusters build a battery like Walt and Jessie did, to see if it would really work.

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Hey, BB fans! I missed "Better Call Saul" and had to make do with the recap, but this last episode was great. If you've ever run out of drinking water and suffered serious dehydration, you probably felt the same creeping panic that I did watching this ep.
Jessie's back pain was possibly his kidneys starting to ache from dehydration, not the cot. Great comic relief lines, and the tinfoil cell antenna-LOL! I would like to see MythBusters build a battery like Walt and Jessie did, to see if it would really work.

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RW, I guess tongue-in-cheek posts don't come across very well in type...however, I would think it very funny if Walt insisted on proper disposal of his chemical waste (he is, afterall, a chemistry teacher!) and an eye station in the RV. :o)

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I'm a little late to the party, as I just finally got to watch this weeks episode. Been tough avoiding this board till now. I think you've got all the bases covered, but I did want to add a couple things:

Anyone else think they were reaching a bit with making the battery? Usually this show is right on when it comes to technical realism, but the whole battery thing was a little too unrealistic, if not impossible. First thing, a battery stores electricity, it does not create it. Even if they were able to make a battery, wouldn't it need to be charged in the first place? Second, the tiny wire that they connected the jumper cable to would not be anywhere near large enough to carry the necessary amperage to turn over an engine. Anyone who has ever tried to jump a car with cheap thinner wire cables can attest to that. That was probably 18 guage wire at the biggest.

I hate to pick at an otherwise remarkable show, but I come from an automotive background, and I found this entire scenario impossible to believe, especially when I think the writers usually cover their bases when it comes to the technical details.

All I know is they are lucky they got back when they did. Walt would have had a tough time explaining another disappearance to the family. I agree with an earlier post that they are going to have to branch out of ABQ in order to unload all that meth they have now. I have a feeling that not only are they gonna "call Saul" but we're going to be introduced to some new players soon.


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Weeya, Point taken. I know Walt is a pretty conscientious guy, but we are talking about deposing of Incriminating evidence here. Heisenberg/ Walter White is also pragmatic man, he will not take the chance of doing the obvious correct action of disposing of this Hazardous waste in a conventional way,( Hazardous Wasting recycling center). It will get dumped out in the Desert, probably not far from where the Cooking is done. The most I can See Walt doing is digging a hole in the ground, dumping whatever is in need of disposal and covering it over. Jesse on the other hand would probably not be so thorough. The DEA and Local ABQPD would probably be monitoring whatever is being turned in at those Hazardous collection centers for sure.

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Brian, Great points on the Battery, but we are talking about an entertainment show. Outside of Skinny Pete showing up to save the day, the Writers had to come up with some sort of a solution to save our Boys from a slow death out in the middle of nowhere.

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I can't remember if this has been covered on the show, but where does Skylar thing the treatment moneys coming from now that Gretchen and Elliot aren't paying for it 'any more'? Or had he allready payed for the current round of treatment before that?

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Check out the "Movie/TV" board at www.tigerdroppings.com. I have a "Breaking Bad" thread going there.

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doing the obvious correct action of disposing of this Hazardous waste in a conventional way

like melting down another meth dealer with acid ... then flushing him down the crapper ;)

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Zia, Sounds like you are very in touch with your inner Heisenberg. That might be the quote of the day!

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"doing the obvious correct action of disposing of this Hazardous waste in a conventional way

like melting down another meth dealer with acid ... then flushing him down the crapper ;)"

By the way, did Jesse ever have that fixed? I'm sure that didn't help the resale value of his house. If he didn't have it fixed, how did he explain the gaping hole where the bathtub used to be?

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when they had the open house, the ceiling was patched

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question though, 8- balls cousin was melted... after Walt killed 8-Ball ... in self defense , I might add... what did they do with 8-ball... same process

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oh heck... the vagina museum is free ..got to bounce

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Just caught this episode.

I love the show, the actors are doing a great job, best show on TV, yada yada; all still true; here are some of my nitpicks and concerns though.

1) While I have been hoping to see Walt and Jesse grow a little closer, those moments in this episode felt too forced and contextless. I think a lot of people praising that aspect of the show are just excited to see it at all. It really wasn't done that well. Walt just saying "I trust you" out of the clear blue? Jesse and his "methlamane doens't go bad, does it?" It just seemed too ... arbitrary somehow. I kept feeling my suspension of disbelief sort of waver away during some of their interplay, though I liked the high-five male bonding moment. Additionally and despite all that, their constant bickering is growing rather predictable and tiresome at this point. I know it's important to their dynamic up to a point, but I'm beginning to feel, with this episode, like "okay, I get it already." The show used to consistently suprise me with the twists and turns in the dialogue, and while this episode has some good moments, I thought the overall rapport between them was actually a bit dull. Jesse keeps screwing up, Walt scathingly berates him, yes yes, we've seen it fifty times before already. Which leads me back into a concern I'd raised a few episodes back:

2) Too much bungling around by this pair. Yeah it can be funny, but it can also be a bit much, and we've already seen an awful lot of it. Walt SHOULD be smarter than this. Jesse SHOULD be smarter than this. I'm fine with mistakes and a learning curve, but at times in this episode I just felt like "whup! wouldn't you know it! they screwed it up again! Golly gee, what ELSE can go wrong??" I didn't really find it that "hilarious," just kind of predictable and a little worn out. I find myself growing annoyed with them. I don't expect things to be easy for them, but they don't need to keep making incredibly retarded mistakes every single time they get together.

3) Yes, Jane = hot. Kind of a weird face, but nevertheless. Hot. Reminds me a little of Hope Davis.

4) I thought for sure Skinny Pete was finally going to show up just after they get the battery started.

Overall, I'm not sure how I feel about this episode. It's not that it was bad, and I don't mind that it was slow -- I like the pacing of this series a lot, generally speaking. Each episode gives you enough content to satisfy and move some key story elements along, but it takes its time enough to tease you and leave you wanting more.

I feel this episode was on the weak side, but I say it with love and as a huge fan. Not like I'm going to stop watching anytime soon.

pf.

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Just caught this episode.

I love the show, the actors are doing a great job, best show on TV, yada yada; all still true; here are some of my nitpicks and concerns though.

1) While I have been hoping to see Walt and Jesse grow a little closer, those moments in this episode felt too forced and contextless. I think a lot of people praising that aspect of the show are just excited to see it at all. It really wasn't done that well. Walt just saying "I trust you" out of the clear blue? Jesse and his "methlamane doens't go bad, does it?" It just seemed too ... arbitrary somehow. I kept feeling my suspension of disbelief sort of waver away during some of their interplay, though I liked the high-five male bonding moment. Additionally and despite all that, their constant bickering is growing rather predictable and tiresome at this point. I know it's important to their dynamic up to a point, but I'm beginning to feel, with this episode, like "okay, I get it already." The show used to consistently suprise me with the twists and turns in the dialogue, and while this episode has some good moments, I thought the overall rapport between them was actually a bit dull. Jesse keeps screwing up, Walt scathingly berates him, yes yes, we've seen it fifty times before already. Which leads me back into a concern I'd raised a few episodes back:

2) Too much bungling around by this pair. Yeah it can be funny, but it can also be a bit much, and we've already seen an awful lot of it. Walt SHOULD be smarter than this. Jesse SHOULD be smarter than this. I'm fine with mistakes and a learning curve, but at times in this episode I just felt like "whup! wouldn't you know it! they screwed it up again! Golly gee, what ELSE can go wrong??" I didn't really find it that "hilarious," just kind of predictable and a little worn out. I find myself growing annoyed with them. I don't expect things to be easy for them, but they don't need to keep making incredibly retarded mistakes every single time they get together.

3) Yes, Jane = hot. Kind of a weird face, but nevertheless. Hot. Reminds me a little of Hope Davis.

4) I thought for sure Skinny Pete was finally going to show up just after they get the battery started.

Overall, I'm not sure how I feel about this episode. It's not that it was bad, and I don't mind that it was slow -- I like the pacing of this series a lot, generally speaking. Each episode gives you enough content to satisfy and move some key story elements along, but it takes its time enough to tease you and leave you wanting more.

I feel this episode was on the weak side, but I say it with love and as a huge fan.

pf.

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So - does anyone know 'zactly how many episodes we have remaining this season? And after that, when the next season starts?

Craps -- it's right up there with wondering if there is going to be a Bourne IV. (Gawd I hope so) Ya know - that started with 'Bourne Identity'. I luvz that series as much as this one!

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Ok. So, there I was... walking down the street... minding my own business...

(ya know where this story is going, right?)

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It never goes where you want/expect it to.
Guaren-damn-teed...

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13 Episodes this season. dont know about next season yet.

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Actually, I don't 'walk' anywhere. But t'cha know what I mean? (I ride a bike (gawd-damn-it) yo!)

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Thanks RW.

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Here we go - countdown...
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday...

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LMAO, zia! SOoooOOOooo...how'd it go, in Santa Fe? Any good visuals??? ;)

Thanks, sweetposey! And, you're right, it seems like Walt won't ever be content, with being "just Walt" anymore!

James26: Did'nt you post earlier, you were'nt going to say anything more bad, about her? =\
Ohhhh, man!!! You've gone back on your word, have'nt you?!? =O LOL LOL LOL!
Wait, I get it...You're really her publicist, or agent, right? And, these days, BAD publicity, is GOOD publicity, huh?
Ah-hah!! Smart move! You're just down-right crafty, are'nt ya?!? ;)
Bwa ha ha ha!

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Quote by: By Unforgiven on May 8, 2009 11:28 PM
Here we go - countdown...
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday...

I want some of what you're smokin'... ;)
Depending on how it's looked at...you've lost or gained a day, in there somewhere...Kidding! Just kidding!!
LMAO, ya know I had to give ya shyte, about it!
=D

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Over 300 posts... hmm... not bad.

p.f., let me get right down to it. My opinion is biased. I am infatuated with this show. I eat, sleep, and and breathe this show. I find myself bringing it up out of the blue to random people just to talk about it... ask the nurse who gave my kid his shots... or the cute chick in the waiting room... etc.

Anyways, I could understand where you're coming from about the constant bickering, but I had a business partner that I used to despise and still had to conduct business with him every day. There are people like that in life. You may think they are absolutely despicable, but they are necessary. Cranston and Paul have great chemistry on screen. We watch to see them together. Viewership must have increased exponentially for the show to get another season and to be released overseas.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle is a running them throughout the show. It's like Murphy's Law-- whatever can go wrong will. I said in earlier post that Walt has lied, murdered, and stolen since the beginning. The only thing he hasn't done yet is cheated, but who is his real partner on the show? Jesse. That's right. He will cheat on Jesse soon and reach out to another, dare I say "better" dealer. Jesse is a drug user, not the enforcer that Walt wants. Heisenberg is the man behind the curtain. He is Kaiser Sozay (The Usual Suspects).

What I'm trying to say is that this couple was not built to last. Cherish their together time because it will eventually some crashing down. *Sniffle* I got something in my eye.

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New to the board, This is one of the best shows on TV. Too bad none of my friends watch it, nobody to talk with about it. So here is my thought after watching last Sunday....I think that maybe Jesse's girl Jane is Sauls daughter, I think that could be a great twist....
Anyways I cant wait until Sunday!

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I don't know if any of that last post was coherent. I'm tired. I have to stop obsessing. Why isn't it Sunday night yet? While I'm giving my mother a hug I will be wondering what the episode will be like later on in the evening. Sick! This is a sick, sick show that has made me an addict.

Forget rehab. I'm gonna start stealing hubcaps to support my habit.

Oh yeah. I'm tired. Goodnight.

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I didn't make it over to the G-o'k Museum, It 's been hot as heck lately , way too early for this time of year.. you'd think it was august in NM.

I saw it was almost the 300th post and I had a marie moment grabbing it like it was a baby's tiara.

Been trying to fill the time, waiting to get my fix this sunday. A friend said I should check out the show "weeds"... watch a few eps. then I was like OMG.. seems there are a few parallels. But you all know where my heart is

so four show left till the end of the season -yo

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Geezzzz, ya'll...looks like we're all gonna need "The Cleaner" to rescue us, huh? ;)

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Geezzzz, ya'll...looks like we're all gonna need "The Cleaner" to rescue us, huh? ;)

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It ain't going to be Saul that's Jane's Dad... someone had mentioned it before but John De Lancie will be Poppa.

So ?... could we have someone that's somewhat normal?...lol

So this should be pretty cool... we should have all kinds of family dynamics in this next ep.

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guess you don't want to use certain symbols here

John De Lancie... aka Q from StarTrek

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I haven't been keeping up with the forum this week but am glad to see the posts well into the 300's!

I saw Skank again this week on My Name is Earl. Patty the daytime hooker. She was talking about giving a blowjob and one of the guys (maybe Randy) covered her head with his shirt so she wouldn't get rained on. She also said she had never seen an alien but has seen green penises and she suspects that those are aliens. This lady makes such a great scumbag drug addicted whore. Too bad they couldn't have found a little more time for her on screen with Breaking Bad. She creeps me out so much.

I can't wait for tomorrow's show.

Let me ask, what other shows do you people watch? I'm sure nothing compares to BB, but I have been asking people I know who watch BB what else they watch and have a short list.

These I have not heard of but are said to be good....
Rescue Me
Saving Grace

These I have heard of...
Lost (everybody knows what this is but I have never watched it)
Nip/Tuck (I have seen the commercials but never watched it)

Does anybody watch any of those shows and if so how do they compare to the entertainment value of BB, the acting of BB, the dark humor of BB, etc?

Less than 36 hours to go!

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jesse not smoking meth is a miracle. large quantaties redably availabe, free for the taking most meth heads could not resist the temptation . this drug is nasty it has no respect for anyone . its verry addictive so for him to just walk away is a miracle. some of the people i know would smoke snort shoot that stuff untill it came out there ears its that addictive oh yeah and jesse has some nice pearly whites to be a meth head. viva la BB

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diksee-Yeah, I know I said I wasn't gonna say anything about Jane anymore, but after I saw her on that talk show, I had to say something here because I was disgusted by her.

skottey-I was watching the movie "Domino" with Keira Knightley and Mickey Rourke last night on TNT, and I saw that the Skank/Daytime Hooker was in that movie too! And wouldn't you know it, she was playing another scumbag junkie type! LOL! You asked what other shows we all watch here. I'll give you a list of all the shows that I watch on a regular basis (current shows and reruns). None of them even begin to compare to Breaking Bad, but they're all still pretty good. Here's the list:

Rescue Me
Sons Of Anarchy
Nip/Tuck
Damages
The Shield
The Sopranos
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Testees
Seinfeld
The Kids In The Hall (best sketch comedy show ever!)
Mr. Show (featuring Bob Odenkirk AKA Saul)
Arrested Development
South Park
The Daily Show
The Colbert Report
The Soup
Chappelle's Show
Reno 911
Saturday Night Live
Mad TV

That's about all I can think of for now. Hope you saw something in there you like! :)

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Hello,
My first comment. Great show. Dead on characters,great acting. Some one actually lived this and I am sure in Albuquerque. I lived with a meth chef there from 1981 to 1985 and it was like that then, Seeing all the old spots and even the colors from the desert sky takes me back to those days. Wonder if there is anyone else here from those old days that made it through ? I think
''Heisenberg'' means iceburg...or could be thought of that meaning by a half-baked half-educated person hearing it such as myself. Back in the early 80's the DEA office was located on an upper floor of a bank building on Central Ave. the methadone Clinic was right behind it in the FOX building. freebo'

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Hey James26, Just wanted to check in with you today and see if you have had any sort of change of Heart about our girl Jane? That is quite a list of shows that you watch, cant say that I follow any of those shows on a regular basis. Finally got caught up last year with Miami Vice, I know, I know that was twenty something years ago, but I was out of the country during most of that time period, so I did'nt get to the entire Series until last year. Man that show had the Music down for that time period. Season two was the best.

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I wonder if Hank will "retire" from the force when he finds out about Walts recent activities so as to not have to turn him in or be a part of it hiimself? Blame the panic attacks for a needed vacation or something like that.

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diksee, Is that reference to the "cleaner" in regards to that Billy Mays Oxy-Clean comment you left on Hanks blog? Just wondering where your going with that one.

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Hey R.W. No, I havent had a change of heart about Jane at all. If anything, I hate her even more now.

I never watched Miami Vice, lol.

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"A different point: I'm wondering about Jesse's landlady's father. All we know about him is that he owns the house, but is apparently too busy to deal with it and the tenants directly. Maybe when we do get to meet him we'll find out the his day job is with the police force. (Do you think maybe Hank has a daughter and some real estate no one knows about?):"

I been thinking maybe her dad is Gomez :|


lol...

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laz3000, I loved the Kaiser Sozay reference! The Usual Suspects is one of my all time favorite movies. I also agree about the partner breakage, at this point we know someone else is coming into the mix. My guess is Jesse starts using meth heavy again and things spiral out of control (like in the house when he thought the bikers were after him). It really was just a matter of time before he got back into using again, and if he starts feeling "left behind or pushed aside" it could get ugly. He is really insecure.

As far as shows I watch besides BB. I was a huge Sopranos fan back in the day, also liked 6-ft Under, Freaks N Geeks, Jericho, etc...but none of those are on anymore. I don't have the paid channels, but do like Dexter when it comes out on DVD and I do like Friday Night Lights (when its on). I really am not a fanatic about any show anymore but Breaking Bad.

James26 - I am really thinking Jane will not make it to Season 2 (and I will salute you with a beer when she gets whacked). Fellow Colbert Report and Daily Show fan here. :)

Anyway, I am re-watching Season 1 again tonite. Just feels like a Breaking Bad marathon weekend.

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mnsteph-I hope you're right about Jane not making it to season 3. That would be disappointing for me if she did. But I'll definitely be celebrating too if she gets whacked, lol! Cool that you like the Daily Show and Colbert Report too! :)

BTW, I love your Tuco avatar!

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James26 - Yikes, I meant to say I don't think she will make to to Season 3...that's what happens when I am watching Season 1 and thinking about Season 2.

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skottey You asked about favorite shows, so I'll feel free to list them without any grousing from fellow B-Baddies.

The Closer
MadMen
Burn Notice
Psych
Medium
Rescue Me
Life
(now cancelled)
Life on Mars (now cancelled)
New Amsterdam (now cancelled)
Masterpiece Classic
American Experience

As you can see, a few good shows bit the dust - too bad, too. They were pretty interesting shows. That's why, even though the forum discussion can meander a bit, it's our one voice to register our interest with AMC which I think helps the series (besides enjoying talking to y'all).

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jamm54 and james26....... thanks for your feedback on the shows.... I am going to to look into some of these that I haven't seen.

Arrested Development was awesome and should not have been canceled.

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The one series I'm really sorry to see go, Life, was pretty good. I'd watch the lead, Damian Lewis, in anything - he's that good. Hey, maybe he'll show up in Breaking Bad! (hint, hint) He played Major Winters in Band of Brothers.

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Love the show and have been watching since the beginning.
Did anyone notice the flower in the desert during their 4 days cooking meth? Just wondered what that might represent...

Wolfgang, I liked your comments. By starting off your comments with "how ya doin?", you made me think of my all time favorite rock musician, are you in that business? "Wolfgang" was also a well known composer/musician like you may be, and Wolfgang sounds close to the name of a band this musician was in years ago. Am I close?

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What does the episode name "4 days out" imply?

Is it 4 days until the final episode and Walt comes home to find the house blown up (bunny in the pool and all) and doesn't know that his family is safe and that Marie took Skyler to the hospital to have the baby? The season ends on him making the discovery and we are left with such a cliffhanger.

Why is his house blown up? A lot is going to happen in the remaining shows of this season. So story wise, these remaining shows take place over 4 days perhaps. Maybe he is really hit hard by the cartel and they go to kill his family. Or maybe he blows up his own house to cover up evidence because Hank tells him they are onto him.

It could go down so many ways with just what, 5 shows left. I cannot wait!

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Like myself my Mother is a "Breaking Bad " fan. So I just made the best Mother's Day card ever! Picture of Jesse and Mr. White in desert sitting in their lawn chairs with money and blue meth saying,"I'd be blue if my Momma wasn't you". I think I'll go watch it with her tonight as well.

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I think he was angry because he realized that he has to share his profits with yet another partner - the oncology clinic. He's got 80K in treatment already, and he knows it will just go on as long as they can drag it out, so he has to keep on living a life of lies.

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Quote by: R.W. on May 9, 2009 5:12 PM
diksee, Is that reference to the "cleaner" in regards to that Billy Mays Oxy-Clean comment you left on Hanks blog? Just wondering where your going with that one.

LMAO!! Good one! =) That would have worked out perfectly, for Hanks' blog! =D LOL!!!
But, no...it was in reference to laz3000s' comment he made about needing Rehab, for this show!
Plus the fact, that we're all severely addicted to Breaking Bad! Ha ha!

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One thing to consider is that courtesy of Mr. White, Jesse's cooking skills have probably gone through the roof in quality. I'm sure that he can cook meth almost as good as Walt or pretty close to it.

If Walt dumps Jesse as his partner under the guise that he's quitting the business now that he's going to survive, and then turns around and starts cooking again, Jesse will recognize his meth.

In that event, Jesse might be pretty pissed off over the lie, betrayal, and loss of money and turn around and start competitively cooking against Walt on the market. It could be the "Competitive Meth Cook-Off of 2008". LOL. If that happened, it could get pretty ugly between them on the streets.

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Skotty, the 4 days out is how long they were out in the desert cooking

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BTW, Blue Runner: that's a really cute idea for your Mothers' Day card!!!
Have fun watching it, with her tonight!!

And, Happy Mothers Day, to all the Moms here!

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Jamm54 - A competition between Walt and Jesse, Yeah a Meth Cook off. Do you think Jesse use his old Moniker "The Capn" or go by his new one "The Blowfish"? We are a twisted bunch.

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I don't think that's were its going. Jessie and White are totally bonded. Notice how each new villain is twice as bad as the last, and WW kicks their @ss (not without some difficulty)? First Krazy-8, then Tuco, next may be Saul, then Tortuga (the Mexican Cartel), then the DEA?

I too have often wondered though what event is foresahdowed by Walt's glasses in the evidence bag by the pool that we saw glimpses of early on. Maybe the Cartel catches up with him, but I'll bet they are sorry they did.

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Hisenbaker - I'm not so sure that the Mexican Cartel comes after them. I'm thinking a new twist is coming our way. During the Briefing that Hank gives his DEA staff, he mentions that Tuco did a number on a So. Cal Biker crew? Also do you remember when Jesse and Jane are talking outside there duplex a Biker type rolls up on them out of nowhere and gives Jesse props for offing the Spoogeman? I'm thinking that an Outlaw Biker crew rolls into town and wants to take over the ABQ Meth biz. Biker crews are pretty violent and are into the Meth trade.

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What was the name Saul mentioned when they had him next to the grave? That is the next bad guy I believe.

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You might have a point there, we'll see, maybe tonight.

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Sounds like a pretty good card Blue runner, Im still trying to figure something out to say in mine lol. Cant wait to see this episode tonight i have been thinking about it all day haha. Hopefully Canada can make a comeback here in the third and bring me home some gold. And then i can relax and watch breaking bad after dinner. Life is good

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Hisenbaker: Yeah, I heard Saul say that guys name too, and was thinking the same thing! What was it, Ignacio or something? The way Saul was groveling and begging for his life, this upcoming dude must be hella bad. I was also wondering if he sells out Walt to whoever this new bad guy is to save his own ass, since he is apparently in trouble with the cartel or whoever. He could be in the process of setting this whole thing up. Saul may be thinking "Why not fuck over Walt? I'll already have his money, and if it'll get me off the hook with these bad guys! Plus isn't Walt supposed to kick it anyway?"

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Hisenbaker: Hey, I just re-watched that segment of Saul at the grave in the desert with Walt and Jesse. The name of the guy he mentions is "Lalo". This is who he was scared shitless of.

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Good call. Saul rolls over on Walter, and is found in pieces. "Lalo" comes after Hisenberg, and the becomes the eventual victim of a chemical reaction.

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R.W. Blowfish for Jesse! Capn too known now.

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I like all your Saul theories....would the client privilege relationship prevent him from fingering Walt for a bad guy? Maybe the client privilege baloney is only for the justice/court system in Saul's mind, but on the streets every man for himself. Yeah, Saul would throw Walt under the bus in a heartbeat if he was an inch away from buying the farm. Client privilege be screwed.

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Another great show that was cancelled way too soon was The Riches on FX. They're showing reruns of it right now on Saturday nights. Late night, like midnight.

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So..anyone else think Eisenberger means ICEBERG ?

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i wish he would have built a robot

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