There could be a lot of potential "Over" in this program that we'll find out tonight. Could it be:
"Over" - Walt making meth?
"Over" - Jesse and Jane?
"Over" - Walt and Skyler?
"Over" - Walt and Jesse?
"Over" - Hank and the DEA?
"Over" - Brother-in-law friendship between Hank and Walt?
This is tough to guess!
Can't wait for tonight's episode, but also don't want it to be "over" for the season. It's going to be a long dry summer waiting for season 3. Please, Please, Please tell me there is going to be reruns. I can't believe I'm begging for reruns.
And there was something pink hanging on the wall behind Walt in that last pool scene after the run in w/Hank and the pool puke.......almost looked like a certain stuffed animal!
Thanks Clayton for doing a great job at the moderating. You probably dont get enough praise so I'll say it now before the rest of us have other things to say. They all want to say... Ahh you Know. Y'all know the rest Yada... Yada... Yada
tj AMC is stingy about reruns or running them on Fancast (Comcast's website for reruns of tv episodes) which you'd think they would utilize since MadMen and Breaking Bad episodes are both rerun on Comcast's On Demand. I really don't understand why - both series are blue chip creations, so you'd think they broadcast them alot, especially when their viewers are begging for it.
Maybe you can console yourself with AMC's miniseries The Prisoner which is scheduled for sometime in 2009 or MadMen starting in late July or August.
There is a fine line between making a character "conflicted" or "complicated" or "multi-layered" and turning them into a jerk (the pool scene). I don't like watching shows about jerks. There are plenty of scenarios that can be used to portray the mental problems Walt is having without getting into white trash territory. It looks like it's time to turn it over to Jesse and send Walt back to school.
Has Jesse been taking vocabulary lessons? How do you want to proceed? He asks?
Hank's quite a brewmeister. Beer and margueritas. yummy. Walt's speech was overwhelming. Hank's feeling good again, bragging about work again. Getting high and mightly as Uncle Hank again too. The male bonding around the pool was a nice touch. Wonder if daddy will ever know about Hank and the stripper. Hank and Walt showdown, didn't see that coming, but Walt better be careful who he's showing Heisenberg to. Is he subconsciously wanting to get caught and punished for his sins? Or has he finally got the balls with his new persona to show Hank he has a pair too. Now he's back in the doghouse with Skylar again, fool.
Loved the bloodspot on the money in the hardware store. You can run but you can't hide Walt.
Kangaman and Joey?? and Rewindo? Jesse, are you 4? And they all look like him? Uh oh, poor baby Jane. And rejecting Jesse like that, now he's a confused little boy again. Just when he thought he knew what was what. Guess Jane was right when she said she doesn't like commitment. Poor Jesse.
So now Walt thinks he's Joe Handyman? Or is he going to build a vault in the crawlspace for the money?
And Skylar!! You hussy! Didn't take you long to hang on to the boss's hand for comfort did it? Knew that was coming but didn't know it was coming so fast. Guess the baby's going to have a "special" uncle!!
How poetic that Walt's trying to get the "rot" out of his house. How about looking in the mirror Walt?
STAY OUT OF MY TERRITORY! Love it ! You are hooked Walt... You ARE Heisenberg..
Has Jesse been taking vocabulary lessons? How do you want to proceed? He asks?
Hank's quite a brewmeister. Beer and margueritas. yummy. Walt's speech was overwhelming. Hank's feeling good again, bragging about work again. Getting high and mightly as Uncle Hank again too. The male bonding around the pool was a nice touch. Wonder if daddy will ever know about Hank and the stripper. Hank and Walt showdown, didn't see that coming, but Walt better be careful who he's showing Heisenberg to. Is he subconsciously wanting to get caught and punished for his sins? Or has he finally got the balls with his new persona to show Hank he has a pair too. Now he's back in the doghouse with Skylar again, fool.
Loved the bloodspot on the money in the hardware store. You can run but you can't hide Walt.
Kangaman and Joey?? and Rewindo? Jesse, are you 4? And they all look like him? Uh oh, poor baby Jane. And rejecting Jesse like that, now he's a confused little boy again. Just when he thought he knew what was what. Guess Jane was right when she said she doesn't like commitment. Poor Jesse.
So now Walt thinks he's Joe Handyman? Or is he going to build a vault in the crawlspace for the money?
And Skylar!! You hussy! Didn't take you long to hang on to the boss's hand for comfort did it? Knew that was coming but didn't know it was coming so fast. Guess the baby's going to have a "special" uncle!!
How poetic that Walt's trying to get the "rot" out of his house. How about looking in the mirror Walt?
STAY OUT OF MY TERRITORY! Love it ! You are hooked Walt... You ARE Heisenberg..
Ok, like Walt says, we have "rot". That whole episode was rotten - the best show on TV just became super-boring.
Who thought up a 16 yr old throwing up in the pool after only 3 shots? Everyone knows teens drink more than adults! I think that was the most exciting part too, that's pretty sad.
There goes another hour of my life that I'll never get back. Hope next week improves....
Anyone wanna share their insights on what happened in the intro. Pretty Boring episode IMO but got a little intense at the end. Heisenburg is getting crazy, and his wife is getting pretty weak, never really liked her since the beginning of this show. And Jane is obvioussly got some issues going on she doesnt want to let Jesse in on.
What do you guys think about the body bags, are we sure there are even people in there? I thought this episode was a bit slow, with only three more eposides, i expected more action. Are we sure the teddy bear thing is even going to happen this season. Also the house seems pretty much intact. The teddy bear has to come into play soon.
What's Walt trying to do, get his ass kicked? It's a wonder those two "competitors" didn't tell him "Fuck YOU!!" and proceeded to do so after Walt tells them to "Stay off his turf".
When Skyler made the toast to Gretchen and Elliott, I kept waiting for someone at the party to say, "Wait a minute...she told me he didn't take the money!"
There have now been three references to Jane's dad (by her) as being a "hard ass". We met him tonight and he seemed innocuous enough, but... they do seem to be tossing out a few red herrings now.
Again an outstanding episode. I may be wrong but it seems as if Walt may have dipped into his own makings in this episode. Let the Turf war begin... Hank is going to have his hands full next season with the start of a Turf war brewing up at the winding down of this season. Stephen King being the magnificent writer he his giving Breaking Bad a good review, Vince Gilligan can take that as one of the highest compliments he could ever get. And I say once more, another great episode that leaves you wanting more...
He did not say "stay off my turf"! He said "Stay out of my territory". I suppose it is a subtle difference but it is incredible how many people are quoting it incorrectly.
Quote by: tj on May 10, 2009 9:59 PM
So now Walt thinks he's Joe Handyman? Or is he going to build a vault in the crawlspace for the money?
LMAO...looks like it...did you catch what was said, over the speakers at the hardware store?
"Looking for a place to stash your stuff?"
and, something about "the grass looking greener, on the other side of the fence."
I too loved the "Stay out of my territory" quote... Intense. The most boring for me was the cooking in the desert...
Anyone got a line on the tune that was playing when walt confronted the competitor cooks in the parking lot when he says the aforementioned quote? id love to dl it.
I wonder if he is building a vault in the crawlspace eh your probably right. And for hisenbaker what do you mean when you say "tossing out a few red herrings"?
I think the title "Over" refers to Walt wanting his partnership with Jesse to be "over". That's why he told Jesse that when this batch is sold, he's done. This is Walt's way of trying to cut Jesse out because he wants someone with bigger plans and more toughness.
Gree-c - they hinted at an ultra bad guy named Lalo a couple of episodes ago, and now these references to Jane's "hard ass" dad. Then frustratingly small amounts of information proceed. It's hard to tell what really is/was a "red herring" until the final analysis though.
I think it means Heisneberg is over being walt. He is becoming proactive now. And why would he need a vault? The lawyer is running money scams for him. Its all on the level as far as paper trail. He is also over hearing about his brother in laws escapades... Heisenberg has bigger tales to weave. How could he cut jesse out? the show would be reduced to walt and the dea and hed have to make his own distribution ring... meaning an end to all of the other show plots... even that of making money for his family. That idea is ludicrous.
Ok...In the beginning of the episode it shows men in "quarantine" uniforms collecting evidence.The main focus item is a Red stuffed animal. Then a smashed car and two people in separate body bags. Did I miss something?
Then they mentioned that Gretchen and her husband couldn't make it (the one's who used Walt for his work and made all the profit). Was it them in the body bags? Does anyone have this answer? Either I missed something or we'll just have to wait for the next episode I guess.
The song is Dlz from TV on the Radio from last year's Dear Science Album - link to song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N31oFeinFY
And was perfectly placed in the episode. Rock that shiz Walt.
Jane and dad - did she just think dad would not approve of her relationship with Jesse? Or she just wasn't ready to go there with her dad.
Why did Walt "break bad" on Hank? Exerting his new personality? I knew Jr. was going to hurl! You don't just start off with Tequila - give the kid a beer first to see how he handles it.
I am so glad he finally bought a new hot water heater! But he is getting manic on the home repair. I thought his family was going to scream.
Preview looks good - there is someone who has been in the business for 20 years and had not been caught..... Hank perhaps? His lifestyle looks too nice on a DEA Agent's and x-ray tech's salary/
Maybe the Drug Dealer that Walt told to stay out of his territory comes to his house and kills Walt's wife and kid, Walt will go even more crazy and cook the biggest batch of meth and starts making people dissapear, but on the other hand im not sure
most bad ass ending ive seen on this show yet, walt told jesse he was done but after seeing that degenerate in the bootleg home depot and hearing those beeps, he realized he's not a "handyman dad" and thats when he put those odor removing cans down. i'm waitin for walt to start killing heads
The body bag scene is a foreshadowing, you didn't miss anything. It's just got us all wondering what is going to happen at the house to cause all that mess. I think the cartel is going to find Heisenberg and teach him a lesson, but send in the wrong clowns and they blow themselves up in an empty house. But it will put Walt on the run.
JohnnyFriday, you're right about the lawyer running the money for them, but I don't think Walt's going to trust him with everything, he's going to need a stash, and they're going to need a place to stash the meth. Where is it right now? At Jesse"s? What if Jane's Dad turns out to be cartel? Then who's ass is grass?
Glad there are a few more eps in this season.
1.Intro freaked me out. 2.Funniest episode yet. 3.Has anyone ever actually swam in that damn pool? 4.Hank is an asshole, Walt was totally in the right in that tequila shot scenario. 5. Oh Skylar, if you only knew the truth. 6. I really, really thought Walt was gonna blow the house up with the new water heater. Oh well, the whole Mr. Fix It thing was great anyway. 7. I predict the whole thing being over with them catching Walt Jr. with some of that infamous blue meth.
Janes dad is Q from STNG, he is a heavy hitter of an actor to play a cameo... he will be involved in the storylines coming up. I figure jesse will want out before walt will let him due to the budding relationship. I wonder if the body bags will contain the lawyer, remember when they took him into the desert and started freaking out in spanish and them being sent by some dude he owes money too. Something may arise there as well.
First of all ... you guys rock. Especially those people that help bring out the symbolism in the episodes (especially liked the huckleberry explanations from the Skank-ATM Ep).
Anyways... my theory on the distributor guy... none other than TED... Skyler's boss. Id give it... 5:1 odds... any takers?
If not him... what are the chances that we actually have already been introduced to the guy Saul is trying to set up White/Pinkman with ? I say 3:2
First of all ... you guys rock. Especially those people that help bring out the symbolism in the episodes (especially liked the huckleberry explanations from the Skank-ATM Ep).
Anyways... my theory on the distributor guy... none other than TED... Skyler's boss. Id give it... 5:1 odds... any takers?
If not him... what are the chances that we actually have already been introduced to the guy Saul is trying to set up White/Pinkman with ? I say 3:2
I liked it when the new villains were introduced sitting in a low rent office with a bowie knife stuck in the desk, or training their fighting dogs in the living room. Call me old fashioned
Yeah i agree with ted being part of the money laundering... skylar is onto problems with his papertrails and accounts... which leads saul and ted to be covering walts cash flow. In the end i figure everyone will be involved in the business in some way or another. With Hank's wifes thievery and all, it could come to Hank asking to get a cut when he finds out what walts up to, or using the dea to take out his competitors.
Quote by: By pinkteddybear on May 10, 2009 10:44 PM
3.Has anyone ever actually swam in that damn pool?
4.Hank is an asshole, Walt was totally in the right in that tequila shot scenario.
First of all: Very cute profile name! =)
Second: So far, all's I've seen are those little whirlygig water bugs...LOL ;)
Third: IMO, I thought it was cool of Hank, to look out, for the best interest of his nephew.
Fourth: Yeppers...I kept waiting for Walt to blow the house up, too!
oh man Kilz 2 thats crazy, and i doubt we know this business guy. It doesn't seem like a thing breaking bad writers have done or will do, but if we do know this business guy, i will be delighted and surprised.
I think those opening scenes are foreshawdowing too. Poss the finnally is they all somehow die, idk. Anyway does anybody know wha the name of the song is in the final scene where walts being a compleate bad ass and telling the fucked up dude to not sell in his territory? Thanks, cant wait for next weeks episode.
Kilz is a like a primer you apply to things before you paint them. It can help when you have mold affected surfaces, probably like what Walt has on the flooring that was leaked on under that junk water heater.
it was dlz by tv on the radio brian and it's not jesse or walt, that much i know. They are slotted for a 3rd season, this show is not even close to being over, i'd be surprised if one of those body bags included a main character, the only way it could be jesse or walt is if this climatic scene that has been foreshadowed all scene doesn't happen this season.
THANK YOU for this show AMC
I've never seen anything like this before, so well done,
perfect casting, incredible acting, story line, everything.
I could go on forever! Huge Fan
If they gave you constant action all the time, you would get bored of that too, and say that they were "jumping the shark", as it were. The writers and producers have very carefully constructed this show so that it ebbs and flows with the building of tension and then the release of that tension in an explosion,... hence the ending of this episode.
It's perfect storytelling... I have never seen anything like it on TV, except the Sopranos, and even that was not as well thought out as this.
All of the symbolism and allusions just add to the brilliance.
AND HOW ABOUT THAT ENDING !!!! Best one yet!
Absolutely incredible. It was the perfect song for the perfect moment. Quite impressive.
Great job as always. They are writing the best show on television. Can't wait until next week !!
Oh... and I think Walt might start storing explosive material under the house to use for meth production. That might cause the explosion.
Walt has become Heisenberg.
Those of you, whom are mentioning that something is'nt quite right going on, behind the scenes, with Hank:
As much as I love the "Big Lug"...there's quite a few hints, he's not on the up-&-up, huh?
They've shown, the liberties he takes, being in the upper ranks.
Remember, when he broke out the Cuban cigars?
And, how he just snickered, when he thought Walt was buying pot?
Ol' Hanky-panky...when are we gonna find out more about, what you're doing on the side?!? LMAO!!
I tried to entice a skeptical friend to watch this show, and every way I tried to describe it made it sound ridiculous, depressing, uneccesarily violent, and gratuitously sleazy. All of which are perfeclty accurate. How could a meth lab operator with advanced cancer be funny in any way?
What up to my BB Peeps! There are a lot of you chiming in tonight. I love to see that. I noticed that you all have already started talking about the KILZ, which was a "not so subtle" undertone of the show. We all loved it, though.
For all of you who like the music on the show there is a link on the main page where you can look up all the music for BB and other stuff on AMC.
Some of you really seemed bummed about the episode. The beginning and the end were praiseworthy, but I can see your point where the middle lagged. Overall, it was another stellar performance. Aaron Paul really drenches us inside Jesse's pain. Brian Cranston is no doubt making us believe in the whole Jekyll/Hyde thing. "I don't know who that was."
Thanks for correcting the "turf" comments. "Stay out of my territory." You believed him at that point.
I have some insights, but I'll share them tomorrow.
diksee- I'm a dad and an uncle. Walt wasn't exactly right, but Hank was definitley wrong. "MY son, MY bottle, MY house".....his damn "I just found out I'm not gonna die of cancer" party. (where he had just had to endure watching his wife give gretchen & Elliot all the credit to.) Screw that holier than thou DEA moron. 3 Tequila shots isn't nearly as harmful as a visit to Wendy at the Crystal Palace!
Wow, Is it me or were there more than a few Awkward moments this episode. Hank, I'd like you to meet Mr. Heisenberg - AKA: Walter White. That was an Intense scene between those two. How does Walt go about explaining that one to Hank later or does he bother to? It does look like Walter is cutting Jesse loose. Jesse is just too much of a liability/risk now for Walt, I mean Heisenberg. Jesse not having any Parental guidance (Walt), reverts back to his previous practices of getting loaded. I think Jane will also eventually kick Jesse to the curb. She has Jesse sorted out and it wont be long before he is hitting the skids. Skyler is going to use her Boss as a crutch, maybe more? Interesting episode, not as fun as the last one, episode 9, but hey the story continues to evolve.
Also.. I predict that the *distributor* either be Skyler's boss or Jane's dad. Either of those two have a high probability of having some extra income on the side. Ted's financial records seem to be out of whack and Jane's dad is a hard ass and we are constantly told that.... so... They have my bet, but we'll see.
I hate Jesse for being a puss (is that a bad word?). But it gives him depth, it makes him vulnerable,and most everyone can relate to disapointment with the opposite sex. Isn't it sickening how people can forget a ton of hurt so easily by a simple gesture? "Apology Girl" ? More like,"Spine Eating Woman",or "Confidence Crushing Chick". I don't like seeing Jesse getting hurt, but I love the story line. As a matter of fact I love Jane, hate that she's gonna screw with Jesse. A mention of Kristyn Ritter, I love her too esp. since seeing her on Chesley lately.
Ever have to say jinx to the TV? I swear at the same time Skyler does, I yell out, "When are you going to work !?"
I just realized maybe Walt was being a "blow fish" with Hank? As Hank isn't stupid, Walt has to be aware of the possiblity that Hank could be looking at him as Heisenberg.
And finally , never has a TV show, ever, sucked me in, all for the build up of one great line,"Stay out of my territory". All the pain I felt for Walt the last 30 seconds of last week's show went right out the window for me.
Many might not call this episode their favorite or the best, but it was very necessary, and left you wanting more.
One more note, one of the bagged pieces of evidence being bagged up is crayons? And it looks like Walt's car with the front window broken and body bags are lying next to it.
Ok - these intros are going to make seance one day.With all the 'evidence collection' by the pool; but not yet. I think it will kick us all in the ass one day. And not in the obvious way that weer think it will.
pinkteddybear: Take 'er easy...was just having fun, commenting back to your previous post! =\ My bad!
As far as the scene with Wendy, I don't remember Hank taking Walt Jr. there to "hook-up with the hooker." ha ha! =)
340- I was thinking Jane's dad is the low profile distributor guy also. Didn't even think about boss Ted until reading the blogs. My money's on Jane's dad because 1.That akward introduction between Jesse & he. and 2.Skylar is going to hookup with Ted, possibly while still even Pregnant, they've already got plenty of storyline on that Character.
Why even introduce Jane's dad if he doesn't end up putting some crazy twist in the plot of this totally insane show??
Wow that was a great show. Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride...
Walter has passed over to the dark side (Dr Hyde). Did anyone see his doppleganger at the hardware store??? I think he's going to stage his own death, that's the only way to go big and protect his family. He's a terrible father and husband anyways, both Walt Jr and Skylar are finding substitutes for him (Hank and the boss). Some clues - the paint can Kils in the closeup says 'white tinted'.
This is my first post, and I'm so obsessed about this show like the rest of you!!!
-pinkteddybear "Why even introduce Jane's dad if he doesn't end up putting some crazy twist in the plot of this totally insane show??"
There are other roles he could play and still be important to the story, but what you are saying does make the most sense...
The two body bags... the pink teddy bear... perhaps the teddy bear is a symbol for Pinkman and/or he is one of the dead people. The creators wanted to kill him in Season 1 remember, perhaps they decided 2 seasons of Jesse is enough? I sure hope not. Thats a stretch for foreshadowing but others were talking about how important colors was for this show in another thread.
pinkteddybear- Huevos Rancheroa and churros and margaritas. They are in Albuquerque NM. I have heard them mention tacos and chili powder in previous epiodes.
WOW you guys are great! This is my first post since I found out about this thread and I had to jump in on this one.
I love how everyone has great observations pointing out stuff I never notice!
This show is the greatest! Honestly I hate regular t.v. shows and all this STUPID reality crap out there now, everything out is stupid! But this show has me addicted worse than the people who are addicted to meth in the show! I really enjoy the series and hate that every show brings us closer to an end but I also love watching the new episodes and go nuts waiting for the next one!
The reason I wanted to jump into this convo is that I am amazed that no one see whats going on in the scene where Walt, Walt jr and Hank are drinking. At least this is what I see. I may be wrong but if you watch it you see how much Walt jr is into Hank and his job, even the body language Walt jr has (totally turned away from Walt) it seems Walt jr looks up to Hank more than boring chemistry teacher Walt, and you can see it in Walts eyes when his son is talking to Hank and giving no attention to Walt even though this party is for Walt! His son always does this when Hank is around. I think Walt really wants his son to look up to him instead of Hank. I believe he got really mad at both and just wanted to keep drinking to shut them both up, or maybe try to look "cooler" to his soon. I bet he wishes he could tell his son what he's been through. When I see that scene and Walt looks so pissed, especially in his eyes (btw super extra great acting), at whats going on in front of him with Walt Jr and Hank. I think the alcohol really brought out Walt's real emotions!
Keep up the good observations guys!...oh and ladies! =D
Sorry for the off topic question, but does anyone remember exactly how Jesse found out about the duplex after his parents kicked him out of "his" house? Was it an ad in a newspaper? Did someone tell him about the condo? Can't remember. New to the board, just started watching about a month ago. Incredible how much better this show is than anything else on T.V. IMO, there are a lot of T.V. writers stealing paychecks. Thanks, if you can help.
Oh and I cant believe I forgot to mention how jealous of Jesse I am for getting to be with Jane, even though she messes with him. She is so gorgeous and the last episode of her in her panties was great! Thanks AMC! =P
BTW Skylar is a whore! I hate her now! First smoking while pregnant and now a possible affair! ughhh she upsets me so much!
340- Jesse makes the show. He's like Christopher in the Sopranos, the idiot criminal comic relief that you can't get rid of untill the end (or close to it at least). Furthermore, I bet those aren't even bodies in those bags, it's just them messing with us to keep us all sucked in. I literally live across the street from the Louisville, KY city morgue and I've never seen a white body bag. Could that whole scene even just be a dream or something? I dunno, can't wait to find out. I'm calling Bobby Ewing in the shower on that one. The Pink bear is in the Twaughthammer video though, perhaps a present to Hisenberg's daughter from "nephew" badger???
that scene at the pool Walt seemed to morph into Bad Walt - in front of his family and friends. He sees Hank as a braggart, and weak, and Walt Jr and Hank have a special bond that Walt is jealous of. It was scary and thrilling to watch his 'inner' sociopath come out in that scene. He sees Hank as only the enemy now, classic comic book good guy/bad guy. Hank's the goodguy.
We're in for a major change (I think!) in the next few episodes. I can't think who the other body would be if he did stage his death - there were two body bags. Any ideas, great thinkers out there??
Although they haven't updated it for episode 10 yet. I want to know the name of the song that Jesse is listening to in his car after he leaves his house upset. Anyone know it?
Also Walt at the end is in line and realizes WTF, someone is trying to cook in my town! HELL NO!! So he rushes outside and luckily finds the dude and let's them know what's up! The ending was great! I love watching Walt become more of a BADASS each episode!
This is my first time on the board, but this episode was so rich I just had to discuss it.
I think that Walt's "over" speech expressed what he thinks he is supposed to do, as with out his impending death he loses his moral justification. But the tone of this speech, the resignation, demonstrated that he didn't really want to quit. The last scene, which was brilliant by the way, certainly confirms that it will not be over. He IS Heisenberg.
Regarding the identity of their new distributor, judging by the Wikipedia episode list, I believe the name of the character will be Donald. This seems to exclude Ted, but leaves Jane's dad a possibility (although I think he will return as part of Jesse's storyline, I think the distributor will be a new character.)
bill_the_historian - I'm pretty sure nobody ever said "over". Walt said he was "DONE". I think "over" referred to his exposistion of the Heisenberg side of his personality to Hank.
it actually zooms in on kilz a view times and could over mean that walt's shread of "walt the family man" or the "normalicy" is over and he is officially heisenberg.
Kilz2 was nothing but product placement. It's like seeing a Pepsi can in Back to the Future or hearing about Twinkies in Die Hard. Plus it just works. How many people have Walt & Jesse killed? 2.
Some nice little nonverbal moments throughout this episode that really spoke volumes (the actors in this show are so great at it!).
First, found it amusing and insightful that the opening music at Walt's party was Wang Chung's Dance Hall Days from the soundtrack of To Live and Die in L.A.. The film is about a secret service/treasury agent (William Petersen) on the trail of a counterfeiter (Willem Dafoe) who killed his partner, and will do ANYTHING to catch the guy, and basically goes "bad" to do it. Fitting music and reference. Great movie, great music. And the best chase sequence in film (I think) - backwards on the LA freeway.
The whole Walt-Walt Jr-Hank scene was superb. Walt competing with Hank for his son's worship, but also contaminating his son. When Hank was telling the whole El Paso story to Junior and asking Walt for a word, the way Walt tilted his head and the slight smirk on his face was - "would the word be bullshit"?. It was sad the way Walt couldn't even finish his apology to his son later because he knew he had violated his innocence. When Junior says "But I kept up, right? You and Uncle Hank, I drank three.", Walt looks sickened, and like he wants to cry.
Jane seems very fearful and jumpy around her dad. I'd say she'd cares for Jesse in her own way, but dad must be pretty scary for her to cut Jesse off the way she did. The dad has to be a criminal type of some sort. Don't think that relationship is destined for long. She plays the tough chick role with Jesse, but I think she wants to hide the fact that she's afraid of her dad from Jesse or anyone.
I'm not sure if I believe in the reality of the pink bear/pool scene/body bags as an actual event. I finally just noticed that those scenes are shot only in black and white with the pink bear in color. It reminds me of that girl in the red coat in Schindler's List, so I'm not sure what the significance of black and white means. Documentary feel? Signifies waaay off in the future, like the end of the series? A dream sequence or imaginings? What doesn't compute is the stuff scattered around/in the pool in the back, and Walt's car in the driveway with all the windows shattered, yet the front view of the house shows it pretty intact. I don't know if I believe this is a real scene anymore as much as someone's nightmare.
Walt/Heisenberg declared their motive and intent with that last line in the episode. If that wasn't a definitive statement - I am Heisenberg. This is my business - stay out of my way, I don't know what else would do it. Heisenberg is in, and he's running the show.
To Live And Die In LA loved that movie. everytime I hear that song (it's played on the PA at work sometimes) I say out loud "To Live And Die In LA!". And this one guy always ruins it by saying no Michelle and Romy's High school reunion. And yes that guy does go bad in a big way too.
anyone noticed how much Walt seemed to like running around the house dressed in his "meth making clothes and resperator"
Song at the end sounds like it was made for the show
I love that movie, and William Petersen is hot, and goes very, very bad at the end. One of my favorite soundtracks, particularly the song "To Live and Die in L.A.". The end song on tonight's episode was great, too.
Walt is putting his house in order, literally. But then he puts down the cans of paint, it's "Over", he walks out as Heisenberg, he LIKES it, and he OWNS it.
Other small observations:
Buying the waterheater with blood money. Wasn't that money from the "Skank" ATM that Jesse brought back and gave to Walt? Will use of this money come back to trap Walt somehow?
Is Jesse P-Whipped by Jane or what? Damn Dude. He's acting like a teenager. And even he knows it: he tells her that the drawings were from when he was a kid - 4 years ago! The preview with Jane telling him "like, you're a drug dealer". Doesn't bode well for a P-Whipped Jesse, but will likely do wonders for the storyline!
Sorry, but I don't think that was Jane's father at all. I'm starting to think a couple things:
Jesse has been on the DEA's radar since before he and Walt started working together.
Duplex is wired, maybe the reason Jesse's T.V./satellite wouldn't work. There may be some kind of surveillance over the building.
Jane supposedly had a drug problem in the past, right? I think her "father" might be a DEA agent supervising her as she cooperates by getting close to Jesse. This would explain why she wouldn't want "Donald" to know about any relationship between her and Jesse, as that might compromise the DEA's operations. They would want her to watch his actions from afar and report what she sees or finds out, but they wouldn't want her to get so close that she would be sleeping with him.
Trying to transfer Hank may be because of his relationship with Walt, if they are on to Walt by now at all.
Walt and Hank may become "amigos" after this blow up with the alcohol. If they form a close friendship, there may be a time when Walt possibly confesses to Hank everything that's going on, Or a time when Hank confronts Walt about the fact that the DEA is on to him. Would Hank interfere with a case to protect Walt from getting busted? I can see a time when Walt confesses everything to Hank, especially the reasons why he was doing the things he was doing, if he was ever confronted by Hank.
Is it crazy to think that the DEA would wait to let a drug ring grow before taking it down to amass more people?
Is Saul the lawyer working with the DEA since Badger got busted? Did Badger actually sing like a bird to save his own ass? Was the fake Heisenberg actually a pawn in the whole thing, actually working with the DEA as well?
Yeah, your right, maybe I am crazy
This is the ONLY program I watch on TV. I LOVE THIS SHOW.
Hank is just a regular cop. They are trying to show the public how human most cops are, he suffers from shell shock from his work, his wife has clepto problems - that he asks us to overlook as a phyciatric disorder, he is loud and boisterous to compensate for the fact that he is falling apart inside from the stress of his job. He loves his family to a fault and is willing to do whatever it takes to DO THE RIGHT THING, even when it hurts.
He overlooks things like Walt giving his son a drink, as a coming of age - manhood thing, the second he is not really okay with- but it's not his son, bottle, or house, and the third he puts on his shield and goes to work. To protect Walt, his son, and himself from implication to contributing to a minor. He even goes so far as to try to diffuse the situation when confronted by Walt - who is asserting himself finally.
A delicate situation between the 2 men who obviously need each other in a brotherly sense. Walt has observed Hank in his "go to work" or "I mean buisness" mode and even mimics his behavior in the last episode with the territory breachers and with Hank himself. Walt has also seen Hank at his worst, in a way that he cannot face the world again, and it's Walt who reminds him to have courage and put on his hero face again. A hero is only a coward that acts on his fear instead of cowering in his fear waiting for it to overcome him.
Walt really is jealous of his son's obvious idolization of Uncle Hank, a few drinks under his belt allows that green monster to rear it's ugly head, rather than the normal lay down- doormat kind of guy he is when sober. Hank isn't trying to take his son away and Walt knows deep down that his son respects him.
Unfortunatly, now Hank has seen that Walt is capable of standing up and that makes him a suspicious character for future episodes, like...why did he have 2 cell phones?
The real question is, will Hank look the other way when he finds out what Walt is doing, and he will. Will Hank try to get him out of harms way like he does for his clepto wife? Or will he throw the book at him and look down on him in disgust? He did hunt him down when he was missing. That is a real emotional investment in someone. And Walt was responsible for, took part in, led Hank to, ridding the world of several drug ring people, Hmmm... could end up as a colaboration since he is on the inside of the ring now? Undercover so to speak.
The body bags, yes that was the first question in my mind at the end of the episode, So what about the body bags?!
I did see the pink bear and the crayons, I also saw WALT'S GLASSES and Walt's car windshild and it was Walt's front yard the bags were laying in. Very frustrating.... can't wait for next week's episode.
Walt has always been a little envious of the way Hank is able to captivate Jr. with his war stories delivered in true "cowboy cop" fashion. Mix some tequila with a Walt who has been reflecting on his adventures and it's not surprising that he snaps. He doesn't give the tequila to Jr. because he wants him to drink it, he gives it to him because it makes him cooler than Hank at the moment. Walt and the tequila get pissed when Hank tries to take his "coolness" away. Walt has some badass in him. We've seen it before but he's always kept it under wraps....mix in some alcohol, presto chango, instant asshole.
As for the explosion, I too am starting to think it may be a dream sequence just by the way it's been showed to us. Totally different style than we've seen before. It's just a hunch, I'm not saying that it won't happen. If it does, I don't think the bodies will be anybody central to the show up to now.
Jane's dad as the new guy in the operation? Hmm, maybe, but it seems that a guy who's been in the business for 20 years would set his little girl up in nicer digs than the duplex.
Speaking of Jane, nice the way she walzed into Jesse's place like nothing was up. "Me and you, what is that?" She's playing him. How female like of her. I still say she's hot, but Jesse would be best to distance himself from her.
As always, the plot thickens. Keep up the good work AMC people.
Yeah! I think Jane'd Dad is the one who get's them all busted. He finds out about Jesse and what he is doing and then he just roots out the rest and lays it out for the DEA. I have to agree with someone above though. He is a strong actor for a cameo. I think he is going to be around for a while.
I took a good look at the body bags and I think one was a woman.
The whole thing about the KILLZ is just what it appeared to be on the surface. Finishing his suzie homebuilder job that he started. He always has to do the job all the way, the way you do one thing is the way you do everything. Walt has never just left a loose thread hanging, if he knows about it.
"Maybe I'm wrong and she's gonna end up playing hide the sausage anyhow?"
She did seem to be a bit disappointed in her conversation with Ted that Walt was in remission. She had obviously begun to make plans for life, sans Walt. Regardless, I thought it would be Ted throwing himself at Skyler, not the other way around.
"skylar is onto problems with his papertrails and accounts..."
You caught that, too? I doubt what Skyler found was merely a lack of internal controls. Ted brushed it off pretty quick with that comment about his late father.
"I also saw WALT'S GLASSES and Walt's car windshild and it was Walt's front yard the bags were laying in. Very frustrating.... can't wait for next week's episode."
The way the crime scene photographer was taking pictures of the car gave me the impression there was another body on the front seat.
First thing I thought (after watching the preview) was: Jane's dad might be the businessman that Saul is talking about.
Just a thought.
By the way: AMC congrats on airing the best show ever. Don't get me wrong, I love The Sopranos and all that.. but this is in a league of it's own. So thanx, yo!
Thanks for the clarification on why Walt lost it on Hank; he has been jealous of Jr.'s looking to Hank as a father figure for a while.
And I didn't catch that Jane's father was Q from Star Trek - I'll have to watch that again. There is definitely something deeper there. Did you see how she panicked when her dad was at the door! She's an adult, why get so freaked out? I'm looking forward to seeing that story flesh out.
I don't think the distributor is Sylker's boss, he doesn't impress me as being that intelligent, but maybe I'm wrong. He seems like the type that got where he is because of his dad giving it to him.
When I saw the Kilz, all I though was, "that stuff stinks to high heaven, that will do a number of Walt's lungs!" Loved it when he was walking around the house in his meth-lab garb while doing the home improvements.
the was the best first minute of a show i've ever seen! my guesses as to who's in the bodybags:
1. marie & skylar: however, skylar's car wasn't in the driveway so she may not have been home
2. gretchen & her husband
3. walt jr. & louis: i didn't see jr.'s crutches but on BB anything's possible
4. walt & jesse: maybe they will fake their deaths
5. saul & ??: if he know where walt works, he knows where he lives. he may have brought cartel problems to walt's front door
6. hank & gomez: work carried over to home
Hank, Walt & "Flynn" by the pool. Hank takes the liberty of deciding that it's OK for Flynn to try a shot. That's where I as a parent would flip out. Walt:"My bottle, MY Kid, MY HOUSE!!!" If it were me, I'd a shoved Hank onto the pool.
Interesting how the confrontation between Walt and Hank took place at a party, definite reference to the first episode in which Walt was powerless to tell Hank to not let Walt Jr. Play with a gun. He didn't have the guts to say "my son, my house" to him then, but now in his "new" self he does.
Walt is in Skyler's doghouse again
The beginning may have been the most interesting part of the episode, I'm really curious to see what the whole thing is about, and will be very disappointing if they answer nothing in the finale.
I also like the meeting between Walt and Jesse, interesting contrast of excitement levels. Walt saying he is "done" was big too.
We finally found out how old Jesse is.........21-22 I'm guessing.I'm really liking his relationship with Jane, they both have a lot in common. I also noticed his apartment is getting more and more furnished and decorated the more they are getting involved with each other. I can't say it enough, I'm really really starting to love Jesse, he is probably my favorite character now.
Please people...don't turn into Trekkies with your posts here (dissecting every fraction of everything said and done). This is a TV show...albeit an excellent one.
The latest episode was kinda boring and I was disappointed by the "cheap shot" opening scene.
Q. Why do so many here in these comments think that Walts House gets Blown up? I have seen no evidence of this. During the intro you do not see any debris from an explosion. When the evidence is layed out by the pool, the area is picture perfect, same with the front of the house 7 driveway. I know he has changed out the Bad water heater and Walt is not a professional plumber, but one thing that Walt is, is Detail oriented and he does not leave things to chance. So I doubt Walt missed any steps during the Installation of said water heater. There might be some sort of accident, but I see no evidence of an explosion, then again that does not explain the burnt/ scorched Pink Teddy Bear. Was that Teddy Bear in their Baby Nursery? I did'nt see it in their House, maybe it is and we just did'nt see it? Was it at the Baby shower as a Gift?
Unforgiven, Nationwide is where Walt/ Heisenberg wants to go. That is one Bad ass song from that Little Ol' Band from Texas. They ought work some their songs into the show, like "Just got paid today"...
This is my first time on this blog - but I have to mention a thought that came to me when the Doctort said Walt's tumor had shrunk by 80% - what if it is because of all the stuff he has been exposed to while cooking? Even with safety gear that stuff would be lethal enough to kill a tumor -
I love this show - can't wait for it every week.
Very complex characters -
Skylar is a slut!!! And she has no class -
R.W.> May I direct your attention to my Talk Topic: What's up with the fuzzy pink monster: REDUX?
I agree that the whole house isn't getting blown up. The only real "debris" is the burned stuffed animal and it's only partially burned. But let's discuss it elsewhere, shall we?
I think the body bags are either the cartel or the rival guys from the home store. Walt doesn't mess around. I think fortunately, when somebody comes to get Walt, they will be got first. Maybe Hank is onto Walt and saves his life by popping out and shooting those two scumbags from the home store.
All we know is that something happens at their house where two people are killed and Walt's car is shot up. How did the pink bunny thing get from Jesse's garage to Walt's house? Why do they keep showing it? I was thinking maybe Jesse gives the gift to Walt for the baby since he had nothing else to give and realizes that he should give a gift. I am pretty sure that toy is from Jesse. Perhaps he had it as a kid.
I highly doubt any of the main characters will be killed off. Especially not Hank, Skyler, and certainly not Walt or Jesse.
I mean, if for some reason that is Skyler (with baby) and Walt Jr., then the next season is going to be a totally different show of an evil Walt on a killing spree getting revenge. How long can that go on? Not too many shows.
That whole opening sequence is getting creepier with each showing with a little bit more being shown.
I don't even know what to say about this episode. I am fairly certain that Skyler telling the whole group at the party about how thankful they are for Gretchen and Elliot who couldn't be there and giving them credit for the $$$ is what set Walt off. You could just tell he was not comfortable with it and then what he said following it. I doubt it was any one thing that Hank said but Hank playing buddy buddy with Walt Jr probably has been festering inside Walt and contributed to it very much so. It was just the breaking point to how Walt was feeling that day. He just blew up.
Then the water heater thing and the "rot." I just don't know what to make of it all. I can't wait to watch the episode again today at least one more time.
In watching the show last night I was wondering about Walt going outside the Home Depot to confront the other meth cooks. What was going through that guys mind?
he was much bigger and stronger than Walt. But in sizing Walt up he saw a Middle Aged Bald Guy standing right up to him. My first thought was that maybe he thought Walt was part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Why else would some geeky white dude with glasses to boot tell him to stay away from his territory regarding meth unless he was connected.
I think the last three episodes are gonna go out with a bang.
In watching the show last night I was wondering about Walt going outside the Home Depot to confront the other meth cooks. What was going through that guys mind?
he was much bigger and stronger than Walt. But in sizing Walt up he saw a Middle Aged Bald Guy standing right up to him. My first thought was that maybe he thought Walt was part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Why else would some geeky white dude with glasses to boot tell him to stay away from his territory regarding meth unless he was connected.
I think the last three episodes are gonna go out with a bang.
Not my favorite episode of the season....but like the saying goes. It's like sex and pizza, even when it's bad it's still pretty damn good. I thought is was quite telling that Walt chose to shave his head at the beginning of the show even though he's in remission and his hair is growing back. He still wants to be Heisenburgh. He still wants that bad-ass persona. Plus he's getting bored. Why else would he tear up the house like that? He's used to this action packed life now.
Seemed weird to me but it looked like the degenerates at the home depot were trying to inpersonate heisenberg. Maybe they heard about the "fake" heisenberg getting caught. They must have known that heisenberg was a bald fella, otherwise walts comment to end the show wouldnt have made any sense. The episode of posibilities...
I'm still in aww about the "stay out of my territory" comment. It seems like Walt has made the decision to do drug making full time. The music really set it off (by the way, for those who missed it, the song is called "DLZ" by a group called "TV on the Radio"). This show is so good.
RCH-ROFL about "geeky white dude with glasses!" XD
That opening scene...damn! Who could the dead bodies be in the driveway? It looked to me like the body on the right may have been a woman, because it looked like the shape of breasts under the sheet (I thought they were sheets, not bodybags?). Not that I was intentionally looking for breasts, but I watched the opening scene all three times they showed it on AMC last night and I couldn't help but notice. How ironic (and very tragic) would it be if it were Skyler and Walt Jr. in the driveway? Think about it: Walter got into the meth business so that his family could get by after he dies, but now it turns out that he's going to live, and his family dies because of him getting into the meth business. I hope that's not the case at all. It would be so bad if they were killed.
I loved the father-son scenes between Walt and Walt Jr. when they were trying out the new faucet. Here's what I got from the scene where Walter was giving tequila to Walter Jr: Walter was intentionally trying to make Jr. sick with the tequila so that he would never want to try drinking again. It's a classic thing that parents do, like when they make their child smoke cigarettes until they get sick so they never want to do it again. There were definitely other reasons why he did it, but I think that was one of the main reasons, especially when Walter showed his disappointment later when Walt Jr. told him "I kept up with you and Uncle Hank, I drank three". That showed that Jr. didn't learn the point that Walt was trying to teach him. Maybe I'm wrong about that though.
I absolutely love the music on this show. That song at the end was pure genius, and hearing "Dance Hall Days" at the party reminded me of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, lol. If anyone else here plays that game, you'll know that song is all over it. :)
I think the most telling line of the episode was when Walter told Walt Jr. that he was going to "tear everything down and start fresh". An obvious metaphor for his life, wanting to get out of the meth business. But then in the hardware store, when he was holding the Kilz cans (good or bad publicity for that name brand? LOL!), it was clear that he still wants to be Heisenberg even though he's going to live. I called it last week when I said that Walt enjoys feeling like he's in control of something, and Heisenberg gives him that feeling more than anything else. When he saw all the meth ingredients in that guy's shopping cart, he realized two things: One is that he is much smarter than the average meth cooker ("Don't buy everything in one place"), and the other is that he doesn't want other people making meth money in his "territory" when he is able to create a vastly superior product. In the end, Heisenberg won out, and now the old Walter is officially "Over"! Great episode!
I know what you mean Ona Lee......it sure looked like Walt was "tweakin'" the way he was tearing up the house for hours on end. I think he's too smart for all that though. Who knows though....the road he's traveling down is a dangerous one with many detours.
This ep had more symbolism than I can talk about right now. Will get to some of my thoughts later. But symbolism I did like in this ep. Walt's money having actual blood on it. Those stains ain't coming out as easily as you'd like Walt.
"Think about it: Walter got into the meth business so that his family could get by after he dies, but now it turns out that he's going to live, and his family dies because of him getting into the meth business."
I don't think this scenario is too far-fetched. I've made similar observations about Walt losing his family. It would be the ultimate twisted irony.
This is the most addictive television show I've ever seen.
One impulse of Walt's that he can't seem to control is his teacher/instructor side. In the hardware store with that guy, it was the first thing to pop out. LOL. But as we all saw, Heisenberg took over in the end.
As for the body bags, one of them had a huge bump where the belly would be. It was big enough to protrude upward quite a bit, so either a pregnant belly or someone with a big belly in one of those bags. The other bag looked like it had a long body in it. I'd say the two guys from the hardware store followed Walt home from the parking lot. And didn't one of them look kind of bikerish (the short, bald fat guy)?
If Jesse is 22-23, it explains a lot about his maturity level (and why he still seems like a kid to me in so many ways by his reactions). In their restaurant meeting, Walt liked that Jesse cared so much, you could just see it on his face. I think Jesse really is becoming Walt's son. A hint of a lost look crossed Jesse's face when Walt talked about closing the business down. Jesse wants to be with Walt or should I say Dad?
Come of think of it, Walt's initial advice to that guy in the hardware store, and then following him out to the parking lot and threatening both guys was brazen and stupid for a few reasons:
1. He basically broadcasts he knows how to cook meth; 2. Stirs up anger, fear or paranoia in them about their activities; 3. Reveals his identity (face, car) to them; 4. Makes it easy for them to follow him home from the store and nip that problem (Walt) in the bud.
I thought it was kind of odd that the heavyset guy didn't punch Walt out. But they don't know who he was (cop, DEA or what) specificially. What Walt did was extremely reckless - too out in the open in every respect. Another one of Walt's spontaneous actions with possibly severe consequences; this time for his family rather than just himself and Jesse.
Skottey I read your post, and then must have blanked out. I see you covered the two hardware guys as the possible body bag inhabitants - I agree with you.
referring to "jonny Friday" question about that song at the end..it def caught my attention..had to find it...its called DLZ by tv on the radio...the whole song is really good alot better then just some of the show had
I think walt is building a hidden place under his house to either cook freely in the comfort of his own home,also i think hes angry because he realizes that hes attached to the "heisenberg" persona and can't live it behind like he planned to do after he completed treatment.It would be really interesting if he became the new Tuco,hes abvously not the same walt he was when he started cooking...
Mitchell Yes, Walt was smirking while Junior was puking in the pool! I was kind of shocked by that too. I not sure if it was about his son or that he'd won against Hank by standing up to him.
Did you notice Walt didn't make a move to help his son, he just walked back and sat down while Skyler and Hank were both with Junior. It signified a coldness, I thought, about Walt. He seemed more intent on relishing his victory over Hank, I think, but I'm not sure. Either way, he wasn't too concerned about his son.
Mitchell Yes, Walt was smirking while Junior was puking in the pool! I was kind of shocked by that too. I'm not sure if it was about his son or that he'd won against Hank by standing up to him.
Did you notice Walt didn't make a move to help his son, he just walked back and sat down while Skyler and Hank were both with Junior. It signified a coldness, I thought, about Walt. He seemed more intent on relishing his victory over Hank, I think, but I'm not sure. Either way, he wasn't too concerned about his son.
This episode had more to do with a new attitude for Walt. He no longer is cowed by Hank who has probably always bossed him around and was very surprised to see this side of him. Of course he should be hiding his Heisenburg aspect but it looks like he was always a meek kinda guy. What happened with his ex-wife? Did she leave him for his partner and together they made a fortune on his ideas? There is a whole subplot there ...
Also, in the parking lot with the meth guys, he showed them that he meant business and even though he had no weapons he was not afraid in the least. They ran like scared rabbits which goes to show you, when you feel you are in the right (or crazy), the world is a different place.
Skyler makes a disturbing discovery at work and confronts Ted. Jesse divulges his real profession to Jane, and their relationship takes a dangerous turn.
what do you think of that? The dangerous turn makes me this this business guy could be Jane's dad and then the ted thing that makes me thing the same.
I watched some of the video recap about this episode with Bryan Cranston (Walt) and he said that his character wanted to be look like “the cool guy” to his son instead of Hank. Walt is jealous of Walter Jr.’s idolization of his Uncle Hank. It goes too far and he lets his alter-ego ‘Heisenberg” out for the first time at home. It felt good in the moment but he later regrets his actions at the party
I also agree in thinking it was the two bums from the builders supply place in the body bags on Walt's driveway. They probably heard that Heisenberg was caught and arrested, so since nobody's making the blue meth and all the $$$$ anymore, the sky's the limit! But then they run into the real Heisenberg, and they haul ass outta there because they heard the story of one of Heisenberg's boys killing somebody with an ATM - They didn't want to be next, but perhaps after they will re-group they may realize something like "Well, fuck him! We want some of that meth territory too!", and that would be when they find out where he lives, etc.
It looks awfully good that Jane's dad could be the new distributor. Perhaps an ex-biker, that's been in control of distribution for 20 years. That biker that drove by and called to Jesse in that episode could've been told by Daddy to keep an eye on Jane, and when he found out this Jesse Pinkman guy was there on her steps hanging out, he may have thought he'd better get in on scoping this guy. I have a strong feeling Jane's Dad is a really evil man that has an army of bikers working for him that'd kill anybody at the drop of a hat.
I also think somebody in the DEA is in on all this too. Perhaps paid off for "20 Years" to look the other way. Could it be our boy Hank? I don't know, gotta think about that a bit more, but I'm thinking since Gomez is Hank's right hand man he could influence a great deal, so maybe he's the one?
Hey, Did anyone else spot the collection of crayons in the evidence bag in the beginning? Hmmm. I am really going to be pissed if Walt gets Skyler's newborn killed. Also I think one of the moonsuited guys is putting Walt's glasses into another evidence bag. Doesn't look good for Walt, I'm afraid.
I think Walt has gone over the edge. That's what the "over" in the title means. He can no longer fully control his "switching" from one personality to another. Walt is like Jesse and the people he makes meth for: he's an addict. In his case excitement is the drug. He really can't get enough of it and the risky behavior. When he is home convalescing in episode 10, the first thing he does is call Jesse for some action. When Walt was punching the towel dispenser it was like he needed to feel pain since he wasn't being stimulated by risky behavior. At first he was like the scientists who made the atomic bomb: they did it because they were curious if it could be done. Even better, they could show off their brains. Then, only when it was too late, they realized what they had done. Same for Walt. At first, in spite of his excuse about needing money, Walt cooked meth just because he could and he wanted to show to himself what a bad ass he was. Now, he is so full of himself, he wants to be sure everyone else knows he's beyond reach. Walt is becoming a real monster. Jesse needs to bail out or be killed.
Many topics were sparked off right away. Over 175 posts in less than 24 hours! Wow! We have hit a high!
"This is beginning to feel like the dawn of the loser forever." Great line for a song in this episode. All the music was well done, but I think we all agree that the final song was a great note to end on.
"Why me?" Walt really defined his dilemma with that line. He was sickened by the inertia of his quandary. What would we do if we inhabited his world? He ripped out all the cancer that was under his house, but he looked and it was not finished, and neither are his nefarious deeds. What cancer was the parallel? The cancer in his body or the cancer that was in his mind (Heisenberg)?
I thought that we had been digging down deeper and deeper each week, but like an iceberg 80% of the mass is below the surface. We've only touched on the human condition. We haven't seen anything yet. The next three episodes are going to blow our minds as BB fans. I just know it.
What about the homeboy Hank? He keeps his cool even when under strain. We seen that with Tortuga in the desert. He was sickened, but he still tied the guys leg off and kept him from bleeding to death. He's back to being himself, I think. I believe Walt's talk with him really was the catapult he needed to keep him flying.
Jesse is about to have a meltdown. He can't control this girl and she is not right for him. He doesn't know what he needs, but he doesn't need her. James26 pray for him to get rid of her. I know you already are.
Now, what about Saul? He's the catalyst for all the changes that are about to spring to life.
bigfreakinnaz said "It looks awfully good that Jane's dad could be the new distributor. Perhaps an ex-biker, that's been in control of distribution for 20 years."
hahahhahaha..... listen to yourself. That guy an ex biker with connections? Jane's Dad looks like the stereotypical rich businessman with very little street smarts. His idea of getting out of a tight situation is buying his way out. I would be very surprised if this guy is as rough as some of you are making him out to possibly be. The Walt we met on S1E1 talking naively to Hank looked like more of a big drug distributor than that guy does. And Walt was a total nerd. Maybe I am just being biased towards this guy because of dorky dads of some of the women I have dated. He is just so stereotypical.
But then again, we have been thrown many loops in this show. Anything can happen. But even if he turns out to be some giant distributor, he is the one throwing the money around and playing boss man, not a rough and tough biker. Does he look like your average tough biker? I don't think so at all.
Kudoos to the person who selected the music for this episode. Actually, all of the music has been fantastic. It sets the mood and enhances the program better than any other show on television.
unclemikey saild "Hey, Did anyone else spot the collection of crayons in the evidence bag in the beginning? Hmmm. I am really going to be pissed if Walt gets Skyler's newborn killed. Also I think one of the moonsuited guys is putting Walt's glasses into another evidence bag. Doesn't look good for Walt, I'm afraid."
umm.... newborns don't play with crayons.
Secondly, just because Walt's glasses are going into evidence does not mean he is one of the dead people in the body bags. Evidence can be anything at a crime scene.
Maybe you haven't heard but the show has been renewed for a third season and Walt is the main character, followed by Jesse as a close second. I highly doubt the body bags are any of the main characters and I am suspecting more and more that it is the two idiots from the home store.
Somebody above mentioned that the money launderer could be Ted, but I really don't think so. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and got that business when his dad kicked it. Probably knows nothing about running it, and what kind of businessman makes an excuse "I got the flu" when something wrong happened. According to the previews, Skyler finds a huge financial error in his books. He most likely will show his "gratitude" to her, and she'll eat it up. When was the last time Walt showed her any kind of thanks or praise for putting up with him, his disease, and all of the shit that goes along with it, especially after he made an ass out of himself at their get-together?
I do believe that one of the reasons Walt was forcing blasts of Tequila onto Walt Jr. was to somehow say to him "You're Uncle Hank is a big dog, I am now a big dog, and if you're gonna hang with the big dogs, you gotta act like a big dog too, so drink up."
Anybody notice that Skyler didn't freak out on Walt one bit as to where he got the money to go out and buy a new hot water heater, and all those other builders supplies? She has to know all of that stuff ain't cheap. Also, who paid for the PET-CT scan that Walt got when the "good news" came about?
skottey: I personally know a man who 25 years ago was a really mean, nasty, hard-ass biker that got into bar fights every night, had stabbed a couple of people, did all kinds of drugs - you name it. But now, he is a respected man in the community, a powerful businessman, extremely wealthy, and one of the coolest guys you could ever meet with a closet full of Armani suits. You would never know by looking at him now the colored past he once had.
laz-LOL! I'm already praying for Jane to be gone. Don't worry! :)
Guys, I saw a commercial on AMC today for the next episode, and they showed something that they didn't show in the preview last night. Stop reading right now if you don't want the spoiler. AMC is already showing it though, so...SPOILER ALERT:
I think TATOR's onto something. Walt may need some AA meetings for his budding ADRENALIN addiction. If there's any trouble in the birthing room, LOOK OUT, doc.
Gotta say, love seeing Walt's transformation; and I'm glad his split personality comes with comedic ornamentation. The pass through the living room with stuff for the junkpile was hilarious. Halfway wondering if Walt's done gone and sampled his stash..(almost too easy an out for the writers).
Cause everyone knows: "you NEVER get HIGH on your own SUPPLY."
Prediction: Walt's newly built safe/panic room in the crawlspace is wired to blow if unfriendlies come a'tampering.
I'm still kinda freaked that Jane's dad is Q from Star Trek. bigfreakenaz, I was also expecting SOMETHING from Skyler about the money for the new hot water heater and other building supplies.
Jesse seemed happier than Walt that Walt's cancer was in remission. The most contented expression I noticed on Walt's face the whole episode was when he was looking at the grocery cart full of meth cooking supplies. "Over" had to refer to how Walt is past the point of return and is now Heisenberg. And the built-in commercial for Kilz was marketing genius. We are often forced to see strategically placed products in tv and movies, but I don't remember another product placement that actually fit so completely into a story line. Every time I prime, I will now think about BB.
This episode was far from boring. All of the tension was internal rather than external. I was really touched that Jesse was so hurt after being dissed by Jane. Even though he (at least started out) as a meth head, has anybody noticed that Jesse is pretty neat? (By neat I mean tidy.) He had some clutter at his aunt's house, but is nothing like the crack house where Spooge got his last headache. In one of the behind the scenes videos, Vince Gilligan & crew talk about that house. It was a real crack house that they had to clean up before they could shoot there. Can you imagine? God knows what's crawlin' in there...
About the body bags and the bullet hole in the windshield of Walt's car: Maybe Walt loaned his car to someone (one of Jesse's dealers, say) and someone who wanted Walt eliminated mistook the driver for Walt when they pulled into Walt's driveway to return the car.
Another possibility - hopefully not true - is that someone who wanted to kill 'Heisenberg' discovered that his name is Walter White, he drives an Aztec, and lives at such and such an address. Walt Jr. gets his licence (or not), borrows the car to go out with the friend he hangs out with, and when he returns home someone comes up to the car and says "Are you Walter White?" "Yes." POW, POW. That would explain why Jr has the same name as his father: to set up a case of mistaken identity. Walt has been through a lot because of his criminal ways, but has so far emerged unscathed. Maybe it's time he paid severely for breaking bad.
I wonder if the incident that leaves debris in the swimming pool is the result of Walt's home renovations.
When Jesse was explaining his superhero creations, he reminded me so much of Hank on Corner Gas!
How do we even know that the body bags are related to Walts activities. It looks like Skylar has discovered some stuff in the accounting dept. Poor Walt, the only respect in life that he gets is from the methheads and other dealers.
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How do we even know that the body bags are related to Walts activities. It looks like Skylar has discovered some stuff in the accounting dept. Poor Walt, the only respect in life that he gets is from the methheads and other dealers.
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Did anyone think the churros had symbolic significance or sexual innuendo for the Skylar - Ted relationship?
If Hank is dirty, he sure knows how to cover his tracks. If he was, and I don't think so, but if he was, the whole scene in Mexico could have been set-up by him. I mean, is he really that lucky? And maybe he is pretending not to know how to speak Spanish/Mexican. Wouldn't it be funny if he suddenly slipped and spoke fluently? He was having a breakdown or something. Maybe he knew Tuco and knew how to find him and just was waiting for the right moment to take him out.
He could be just a full-of-himself cop, after all, he did get a BJ from a drag queen/cross-dresser the night before he got married, altho he doesn't know it yet and was stone drunk at the time. I wonder if Walt will ever tell him.
Kind of agree with you, laz - don't think Jane is the right gal for Jesse or will be around as a steady. She's too screwed up about the father, who she is very fearful of, and probably for a good reason. He has keys to her place? She was freaked at Jesse's when she realized it was her father at her door. Man, gets all dressed and made up to answer the door?
I don't know if the guy is a drug distributor. I'd say he's muscle or a hitman type, and that's why she says he's a badass. He kills for a living, and Jane is really afraid of him - that's not normal - there's a good reason for her fear, and it ain't I'm afraid Daddy will throw me in rehab" kind of fear.
With a father like that, nope, it isn't going to last with Jesse, and could possibly cost Jesse his life. She's so guarded where Jesse isn't - he needs something less complicated, and more open, sweeter (yeah, what woman is going to want to date a drug dealer except an addict?).
Hey Skottey, I have a niece (sp?) that indeed at two mos was playing w/ crayons, but I digress. You are quite probably right about the bodies. I was pleased to learn elsewhere this am that BB has been renewed. One of the fun things in making a show like this must be being able to mess with time/place as you wish. How long has Skyler been pregnant??!!?? Later.
Dammm! guys this espisode was bad azz "Walter Jr." i think Walt has become a Drug Kingpin and he is always ahead of the law, I think skyler should respect him for risking his life, she is very sneaky, i love this show.peace.
Has anyone covered the symbolism of the rotting wood. Maybe it represents the cancer and Walt is determined to get every bit out of his house.
The old hot water heater was week and just barely got by. The new one is powerful and state of the art. It is the new Walt!
Good catch on the KILZ and blood money.
KILZ could also be like chemo.
Skinny Pete is listed as appearing in the next episode on the imdb.com so my theory is badger is out (cause he got caught), Combo and Skinny Pete get killed early next episode and thus they have no one left to sell and thats why they have to meet with saul and look so dim.
This is my first post. This show yo? Flippin' phenomenal, yo. Everyone's dialogue, insight, hypothesis, and predictions are cool but basically predictable possible story lines. This show is such an intricately crafted work of art. Think about things you thought were gonna happen on past episodes. The writers are great at taking every circumstance on the show one step farther than u or I are capable of imaging. I guarantee every time you thought you knew, the show took a left turn then a right turn then another turn at an angle that is unimaginable at this rate of speeD.
Speaking of speeD rates, $40,000 apound for some blue hisenburg. Thats about 90 bucks a gram.
Jane is a fed, Her fake dad is a fed. Everyone's a fed thats not Mr. White or Jesse. If you have ever been in the uh production biz you know. Every SUV with tinted windows, every white van with magnetic business decal, anyone at walmart who seems to need some pet fish a can of mapp gas and a grandma get well soon card same day same exact time as you is a fed. And by fed i mean anyone government or not helping build a case against u.
If you guys saw the preview at the end of the episode,
It talks about Walt needing surgery.
"We have a cartel now" as Jesse says
Skinny Pete saying something about "Are you sure your street cred is up for this"
Saul is going to introduce them to some heavy hitters. The NEXT episode (after Mandala) is entitled Phoenix....so you put 2 and 2 together....the blue goodness heads to a bigger market.
Great episode. Those complaining, aren't looking between the lines.
mikebiff2325 i agree about jane and her DEA agent partner she calls dad. Cause to many small details from every episode are used to build to a later happenstance. The writers on BB haven.t let anything big happen that was justa unexplainable fluke.
So I guess what i'm saying is it would be everything the show is not,Cliche, Cheesy, Disappointing, Predictable, and Pretty Unbelievable if jesse just happened to move in next to some drug lords daughter and skylers olD/new boss was the person washing mr. whites and jesses money.
hello walt is going to build a lab under his house and kill his family walt jr skyler and the baby are in the body bags at the start of the last episode just call saul was a slow episode for me but i love it all and am on the edge of my seat poor combo i seen the clip where he got clipped looked like it was his own fault not drug related just showing his a-- i hope they get season 2 on dvd soon
the thing with walt jr was to let him know that he(walt sr ) is cool jr lookes up to his uncle hank so mutch when sr talked to jr in the kitchen he said he kept up with him and uncle hank refering to the shots sr just turned and walked away in discuss thst his son lookes up to uncle hank dea agent but does not look up to dad that pisses walt sr off he knows the real hank walt sr probably want to tell his boy what he is now to see his reaction or in hope he will look up to him as a father
Oh, please don't kill off Walt Jr. to make Walt pay a price for his sins. I know the writers are more clever than that. Walt and his conversations with his son are some of the best moments of humanity in the show. It's their relationship that transcends all the evil Walt is doing and it's the purest relationship, most fun too! Besides, the heart of at least one teen girl I know is going to break if you don't keep Walt Jr. a big (bigger) part of Walt's life and the show conflicts.
MrBizzo It would be awfully coincidental for Jesse to be apartment hunting, and coincidentally rent from an undercover DEA agent. The DEA didn't know Jesse would be apartment-hunting nor renting, and intially he gave his name as Jesse Jackson on his rental app. Of course, it'd be too much of a coincidence that Jane's father turns about to be criminally connected, too. But, there has to be something pretty bad about Jane's father for Jane to be so freaked out about him. But heck, what do I know? I haven't guessed right on anything, LOL.
yeah jamm after i wrote that i went and rewatched season 2. They probably ain't DEA but I don't trust em so that makes em feds to me. Also idon't remember was there any blood any where in the beginning when it showed them white sheets covering tha 2 presumably bodies in mr. whites driveway?
Walt deserves to have the worse pain possibly imagined, be it his family killed off or him. I really liked Walt at the beginning, but nothing justifies selling meth let alone COOKING the shit, not to mention he made this decision based on PRIDE. I know the majority of people here have no idea how truly bad meth is and how bad it fucks up people and people who they care about other than the comic relief of jessie who uses meth. Hes producing shit loads of meth and now he plans on becomming a drug lord to get as much money as he can even though he said after the batch is sold its "over". He got a taste of power and now seeks it as it is shown in the next episode where he wants footsoldiers and a "territory" of his own. No sympathy for anything bad happening to him and in fact I can't wait until an episode where he loses alot airs.
OK, this episode wasn't a big firecracker like most of them are, but that's OK. They all don't need to have exploding turtles and ATM machine squish-braining.
It's OK to take a breather once in a while.
The best part for me was at the end: first Walt tries to offer professional advice to a fellow cook, then he threatens the cook and his scary-looking partner. Even though the guy was tougher and younger, Walt intimidates them with his sheer attitude.
Maybe it is Hank. Maybe it is a staff member at Walt's school.
I agree 100% and said it before myself that it is way too coincidental that Jane's Dad is anything along the lines of a cop or a huge player in the drug trade. He is just your stereotypical rich guy that buys his way out of problems.
Jesse had four or five rentals circled in a newspaper and so much as told Jane that she was the last one and could she just cut him a break. That free will approach to an apartment for rent is not a DEA setup. The law doesn't look to the stars in the sky to be lined up a certain way when trying to bust somebody. They wouldn't set up an undercover operation like this with the chance that Jesse might take that rental.
Jane's dad has probably just been really hard on her and judgmental of her. Not liking her choice of men. Not liking her career choices. Hurt by her drug addiction and not seeing how she couldn't overcome it herself and needing rehab. It is possibly Jane is just trying to protect Jesse from getting involved with her "family life." That is what she says she is doing. We can take her at her word. I think people are reading into daddy too much.
Simply put, Jane's dad from the perspective of the daughter is a dickhead. He has controlled her much of her life and probably bailed her out of problems financially and paid for drug rehab. He has her just where he wants her, in a building he owns, with his own key. She has semi-freedom by not living with him. She probably doesn't have a mother.
My God, I know a real world version of this story. Only it was the girl's step-dad. He was rich and the mom killed herself but he continued to pay for the girl's apartment, her anti-depressants and other medications, tuition for school, etc. He also tried to get in her pants. Not that Jane's dad is trying to do the same, he is probably her biological father. But this is a story that happens time and time again.
There is a place stuck in between your parents total control and your total freedom, which comes with paying your own bills. I think a lot of people, especially young ladies, are stuck in this transitional stage. It is tough to make it on your own at first. They are old enough and want their freedom but their parents pay some or all of their bills so they have some control over the adult child. I have always said, "if you owe somebody money (family included), then they own a piece of you." It is even worse if you have somebody paying your bills regularly and count on them. They own your life and extend you a little freedom by having your own little apartment like Jane. But she is certainly not free.
I think the mystery distributor could be Hank (pretty nice house for a cop and radiology tech). Wow what a twist that would be! It may be Elliot but I'm doubtful. But I will eat crow if it Jane's dad and I am sure that most viewers will agree that it was way too much of a coincidence and consider it bad writing. The writing has been so damn good so far I really don't think they will mess it up with Jane's dad being the big guy to distribute the drugs.
Look to somebody in law enforcement. Maybe not Hank, but somebody that knows the law and how not to get caught. Law enforcement are some of the best drug dealers.
If you scroll up towards the top of the page, you will see that what you are pointing out has already been addressed. The first person quoted it wrong and then did a few others but somebody already set it straight like 200 posts ago. Surely, you didn't think you were the first one to know what Walt really said. Enjoy the show.
With just three episodes left for the season, I'm thinking that we're due for one heck of a cliffhanger. I mean, the way their setting up several new characters (such as Saul and Jane's dad), I think it's going to be the mother of all cliffhangers.
No matter how they end season 2, it's going to be an agonizingly long wait for season 3
I know I'm harping on the music here, but I think that there should be a Breaking Bad soundtrack release. I'm that impressed with each episode's selections!
KILZ2 = Walt adding to the already growing body count, my guess, someone comes after him at his house - so he makes the explosion look like some sort of accident.
I have a feeling Saul secret drug dealer might be Jesse's girlfriends dad.
Thats it for now, I'll be posting some BB inspired drum n bass soon, anyone feel like editing a video reel for it?
This may have been answered before and if so I'm sorry....BUT.....
I know that the green boxes that are (literally) a part of the title ("Breaking Bad") are part of the listings defining chemicals or whatever, but are those two items major parts of the making of meth?
Or maybe they're key chemical componants in the human body?
Just curious....
I think it is ridiculous to suggest that W is building a lab under his house. It is a crawl space. Also ridiculous that Jane and her dad are "feds".
He may be Saul's money cleaner (investing in real estate), but even that would be overly conincidental. We only know the tantalizing fact that he is a "hard ass".
Hank and/or his wife may be dirty - maybe even closet meth heads.
Hanks partner is suspicious to me also, though they haven't done much to develop the character thus far.
Why did Hank get "promoted" in the first place anyway?
Did anyone see the mysterious pedestrian across the street through Jesse's windshield while he was driving away after the tiff with Jane? It may have just been someone watching the shoot and/or sloppy editing.
After pausing and analyzing the body bags to look for clues on my second viewing of the show this AM, it got me thinking. Somebody said they thought it was Skyler and Walt Jr. because they saw boobs and what could be a pregnant belly. I don't think it is them or any of the other main characters.
Somebody said the guy named Combo (mohawk head) is going to die. I don't think it is him either in one of the body bags..
What I do think could be this. At the very beginning of the preview at the end of the show for next week's show, it shows Combo (mohawk dealer) talking to two guys in a threatening manner and then shows them his gun. The camera shows the guys. Pause... take a look at the two guys and then compare that against the two dead guys at Walt's house in the body bags. Shape and size wise this makes perfect sense that it is them! Then, you hear at the very end of the preview Walt says to Jesse something about "things have changed" and Jesse says "we got a guy killed," possibly implying the mohawk dealer friend of his. They possibly end up going to get Walt and he gets them.
On a separate note, I noticed that every window in Walt's car is web shattered. That indicates a lot of pressure. More pressure than just a couple gun shots and even if Walt fired on them in the driveway with a gun he isn't going to hit every window. It appears to be a nearby explosion. But the house is still there and not blown up. I think that Walt is going to use his scientific smarts (like the Ricin with Tuco) to creatively kill those two guys coming to possibly get him. Maybe he even lures them to his own house for some unknown reason.
Walt is all about revenge and if this Combo guy does get killed, Walt will certainly want to get his revenge on the guys. I can't wait to see!
Not sure if I'd go with Hank being the mysterious distributor. Yeah, he has a pretty nice crib and such, but don't DEA guys get paid pretty good anyway? Plus whatever Marie makes as a CT scan technician would be nothing to sneeze at either. Judging by all the hallucinating, hyperventilating, and stress stuff Hank went through from those recent things that happened to him, I doubt he'd have the psyche to be a big low-key drug dealer (for 20 years). I'm guessing the guy in the DEA would be Gomez. He's the relatively quiet guy in Hank's shadow knowing his every move, taking it all in. He would definitely know if the heat in the kitchen is getting turned up, and when he would have to lay low. He seemed to be the one most interested into going down to the ABQ police station to see Badger, and hear what he had to say about Heisenberg, and finding out Hank's plan of attack afterwards. That'd be wild if Gomez and Hank would get into some sort of confrontation in the final three episodes?
No way in hell is Hank the secret distributor. That would be so far out of left field that you might as well make Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny partners in the meth trade.
Hank doesn't have the stomach for this as we have seen this past season as he has been pulling a Tony Soprano with the panic attacks.
If anything, I think it might be Hank in one of the body bags and possibly Hanks wife. Hank could possibly have figured out Walters secret life and gets killed in the cross hairs. I don't know who has been signed on for third season so I could be wrong but this would make the most sense to me.
Check out excerpt from Walt Jr. Interview regarding throwing up on camera:
Yeah! That was fun, except it was a long day. You don't realize it, but that tube they ran down my back was so cold and big. It ran from my shirt, down my neck, down my pants to an air hose that's shooting up cold fake vomit. It was lovely. The first couple of times, they didn't know how much pressure they should use, so it was shooting up in my nose. So I'd sneeze and all this corn came out. Where did Walter Jr. eat all that corn? I couldn't figure that out, because you'll notice every meal it's always bacon and eggs, and sometimes pancakes.
You can tell reading RJ Mitte's interview he's just a very sweet guy (and a teenager). Nice interview, great kid. That was perfect casting for Walt's son - he has (or had) Walt's sweetness (which is disappearing in Walt).
Slygirl08 - That brings up a weird point. How come they only show the White family eating breakfast in the morning, but never shows them eating any other meals? Must be because they are a busy family, what with Walt Jr. in school and hanging out with his buddies, Skyler flirting with her boss, and Walt out in the desert cooking up tons of blue meth, I guess they miss a lot of dinners together.
First of all, this is the best show on tv.
Second, Walt is a bad a##.
Third....i just read about the next episode..that is going to be intense with jesse and jane.
I wish they had re runs on tv...i would watch them all, awesome show.
I'm wondering if too much is being read into events.
First it was Saul was going to be Jane's dad or another dea agent... .. verdit is still out on that ... but he's more than likey a hard ass dad ... who has been on Jane's case since day one.
The Kilz paint while one great metaphor is real stuff. http://www.kilz.com/... hey maybe they kick in on some endorsement money.. tho I would wonder why..?
95% of meth cookers use KIlz paint... shouldn't you?
The opening.. those guys in the bio-hazard suits , sure a step up from ep. 1 when they busted the first meth lab. Homeland sercuity upgrade money?
While the evidence? don't make a whole lot of sense... I don't see any law enforcement type markings on it. they need a stuffed bear and crayons for evidence of a meth lab?
Could it be something as simple as the hot water heater blew up and there is asbestos worries... and the body bags? .. is that jumping to conclusions a bit. If you have ever been to ABQ. you know how hot it gets... to leave a couple of bodies on the ground ... they would be getting pretty ripe real fast.
They do look a little lumpy... not really like bodies.
The guy in the hardware store was Walt's new gopher last week... that sure turned out to be a bit different.
Let's face it the writing on this is great it opens up so many variants, twist, and different directions. It makes it much more addicting than the blue meth :)
I agree and have brought it also.. Hank and Maria are living in some pretty sweet digs for their legal income.... but then again Hank's family could of had money and no kids sure costs one's expenses. it's not like Gomez wouldn't wonder how Hank could be doing so well.
I really am impressed with this show and with each weeks new episode it hits another level :)
bigfreakinnaz...good point. Except for the latest pool party, I don't think I've ever seen the family eat or drink together. It's always breakfast....rmember Walt Jr. being upset about not getting his Raisin Bran Crunch? I do think the family has an odd dynamic in the way that Walt can just disappear all the time without being questioned too much. I know Skylar didn't want to risk talking to Walt's mother on the phone.....but to not even call to say goodnight while they were "4 Days Out" cooking? I know they are a busy family....but that still seems odd to mel. It seems like they are growing apart. maybe Skylar has just accepted that Walt is dealing with his illness and doesn't want to stress him out with too many questions. Plus, it looks like she has some secrets of her own to keep. with her boss and all.
ZIA, You live in ABQ right? Around how much would you estimate Hank and Maria's house cost on that culdesac? Looks like the house is fairly new, nice southwestern designed home development.
RCH2288 said "No way in hell is Hank the secret distributor. That would be so far out of left field that you might as well make Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny partners in the meth trade."
I don't think that Hank is the major distributor. I just think that that would be a major revelation of a twist on things. No, it isn't likely.
The odds that Jane's dad is the major distributor or Jane and/or her dad are undercover cops are about as like as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny partnering up to sell meth as well. Think about it. Large city. Jesse finds a rental that just happens to be the daughter of a major distributor or is a sting operation. That is ridiculous.
Hank being the distributor = silly.
Donald (Jane's dad) being the distributor = silly
Jane being an undercover cop = silly
This is a place to discuss what ifs and what we think is going to happen. I have seen some way more far fetched theories than these ones on this board week after week.
This episode was NOT boring to me. Everything else currently on television is what's boring. BB is great writing, acting, filming and directing.
My observations- the Jeckyll/Hyde aspect was really brought out well this time. Just like in the book, it's a slow painful struggle between two personalities. Hyde was mostly in charge in this one.
Hated to see Junior get "ta-kill-ya" sick, but it was fun to see Uncle Hank get a dose of Heisenberg steel.
Like others, I don't think that's really Jane's Dad. But I doubt he's a fed or cartel, either. My guess is he's just a guy she's been seeing. He goes along with being introduced to Jesse as her Dad, because he's getting some, so what does he care?
Skylar is not sneaky, her attempts to flirt with Boss are clumsy and pathetic, as you'd expect from someone inexperienced at seduction. That's good acting by Gunn. You may not like her character, but she's a damned good actor.
Jesse really needs to grow up and develop some rhino skin in dealing with women. Reminds me of me about 25 years ago. He will learn- or not.
Last- those two amatuer cooks didn't see a "nerdy middle-aged guy with glasses" in the parking lot- they were confronted with HEISENBERG. And he don't act hard, he IS hard. He don't flinch, he don't stutter, he don't act all crazy like a Tuco, he just calmly says, "Stay out of my territory". The big burly one looked in his eyes and saw a stone-cold killer and wisely backed away.
Skottey - I agree with you on those last 3 points on (The 3 characters) you made. I think some posters are trying to hard to read things into the show that just don't add up. I will try to stick to making relevant points from here on out. I don't want to spend too much time trying to predict what is going to happen, will wait to see what actually unfolds during the show from here on out. This show and the writers are doing things that are completely unpredictable and that's the way it should be. Hopefully they continue to think out of the Box and keep surprising us all.
I agree that it is pretty far-fetched that Jane's dad would be the distributor, but he's being played by a fairly well known actor, John de Lancie. Remember he played "Q' on Star Trek the Next Gebneration? I think he will play a fairly significant role on Breaking Bad. But, hey, I could be wrong. DannyTrejo is no slouch in the acting department either. He has had tons of roles and look how quickly they killed off his "Turtle" charachter!
Sorry for all my typos....I'm busy at work but am obsessed with this show : )
jtp said "Like others, I don't think that's really Jane's Dad. But I doubt he's a fed or cartel, either. My guess is he's just a guy she's been seeing. He goes along with being introduced to Jesse as her Dad, because he's getting some, so what does he care?"
Her immediate reaction when she opened the door, not in Jesse's presence, was to say "hi dad." There was no hesitation. A girl using an older guy as a sugar daddy doesn't just call the guy "dad" while alone.
This infatuation with Jane and her dad on this forum is really getting tiresome. So many of you act like Jane and her Dad (or sugar daddy as some of you have concluded) have swooped in to take over the show. The show is about Walt and Jesse primarily. Why is everybody thinking Donald (Jane's Dad) is going to be written in as such a big part of the show? What am I missing?
This is my first time posting. Been reading for two weeks, which is exactly one week after I FIRST heard of this show. Immediately and by whatever means necessary, I watched every episode from the 1st season plus 1-6 of the 2nd.... In three days.
Here are a few thoughts I have on this weeks episode. Symbolism and metaphors abound in this series, and it is one of the reasons I love it.
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-- Another posted mentioned how it was important that Walt shaved his head at the beginning of this episode and I totally agree. If he'd done it at the end, post-territory confrontation, it would have "made sense". However, this way we have to begin to see that Walt is pretty much right at the mid-point of a full on transformation of Self. Just like Laz describes... This is a modern day Jeckyl & Hyde.
-- One important quote for me comes when Jr. is looking down at him under the house as Walt is busy at work. Jr. doesn't understand why these changes have to take place... Walt says,
"You have to cut it out! Cut it all out, and start FRESH!"
This is meaningful to me in the same way as his continual reference to "rot". He has made an internal decision and the fact of this change comes out in almost every word he speaks. What is he unconsciously referring to "cutting out?" Jesse? Jr and Skylar? - which would lend credence to the fake death scenario. How about Jeckyl/Old Walt?
-- Take a look at the two times in this episode that Walt tries to teach Walt Jr. and be the kind of role-model father that he sees Hank fulfilling.
1) Tequila shots.
Result - Walt Jr. sick and in pain.
2) Taking the new water heater "for a spin".
Result - Walt Jr. twice being burned by the hot water coming out.
Message - Whenever Walt tries to help - he ends up hurting.
A continual message we have seen, and will see more and more I believe.
-- Some posters have mentioned the last two episodes how important the element of water has been. I think it is generally recognized as a symbol of life and its growth. It is also about 80% of what we are made of, including our blood.
At the beginning of the episode Walt notices the water is turning brown. Shortly after he sees it has turned an even darker brown. I see this as a kind of recognition of the change in Walt. His blood is turning, his personality is changing... And when they install the new heater it comes out HOT. One can think of the saying, "his blood was boiling over". This is happening to Walt.
-- Regarding Jane and her Father. I might be completely off here, but when the door knock occurred, and watching the way Jane reacted, I got the strong sense that there is something about sexual abuse in the history. Consider this: Ever since Jane appeared, she has absolutely embodied sexuality and sexual issues. From her underwear displays, to her popsicle sucking, to her desire to visit the "vagina museum", not to mention that it is all she seems to want from Jesse, "what is You and Me?" Her manner has also always been cool, distant and emotionally indifferent. Suddenly, she realizes her father is right outside, and what do we see from her? Absolute chaos. Fear, trepidation, anxiousness. I just got the feeling there is some serious abuse there from her father, and she keeps it all suppressed, meanwhile for all intents and purposes connecting nearly all everyday moments into sexually charged activities.
The best movie I've ever seen that had this type of relationship was in Magnolia... and Jane's behavior reminds me 100% of that daughter in that movie.
One other thing - it is well documented that victims of childhood sexual abuse often times experiment early and often with both drugs and sex as a way to cope. What token did she have from AA? Was it 10 years? hmmm.. she must have started quite early.
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Anyway, I love this show, and I think this forum is the absolute best!
It looks more than fancy digs just off Tramway.
Been a long time since I have been up that way. But I have to say it in the Million dollar ++ view area
It does seem pretty high on the hill.. and high on the hog :)
and Jesse apt. is off of Lead st. somewhere .. when he pulls off after having the spat with Jane you can just catch the street sign... not sure the cross street the one he is actually one.
Good point Slygirl about Danny Trejo
must be the economy :)
and jtp... okay the burly guy ... yeah he could of broken Walt in half... you have to remember though ... a lot of people in NM pack heat
I don't think it's common knowledge as to what Heisenburg looks like... funny I was expecting Walt to say ... "You brought a meth lab to the hardware store "
i'm kind of figuring Janes Dad to be a born again or the likes..IMHO
Remember how when Jesse wanted to talk about her dad she adamently pointing out, "I wanted to PROTECT you". In my thinking Jane sees her father as a bad/evil man and while he may be no sexual threat to Jesse, all she can think of is the pain he's caused her, and she doesn't want Jesse hurt by him too.
Everyone seems to be jumping on the Dad-as-Distributer bandwagon, but my prediction is that Jane's fears of him (which is the only reason anyone suspects that i.e. "My dad's a bad-ass") aren't based on her seeing him in the drug business knocking heads around, its from her internalized fears of him as a monster.
If I'm right I'll bet that it comes out after prying questions from Jesse... and he decides to take out some retribution on him. Could make for an exciting confrontation (along with all the other events) that will make the final episode so good.
HaHa-
Got a new super-hero character for Jesse to draw:
Rhino-Man
A big horn and a real thick skin when dealing with women!
No offense, gals- you all know you don't want a guy to get all weepy and moody over a slight dis like Jesse did. He's just got to grow up a little.
Rhino-Man sure beats Crawfish Man, I mean Rewindo or whatever.
If Jane's father sexually molested her, it would make sense for her to hide any hint of being involved with a guy. Her father would be jealous. I thought it was odd that she made sure she was completely dressed (and not in any state of undress or pajamas) and made up before she opened the door. It's your parents, after all, they can show up and you don't have to be all put together (well, at least my mother didn't expect that).
She is thinking Dad is all Bad- ass and will put Jesse in the dumpster... and Jesse has been doing the hide the reality of what's been going on in his life to Jane... almost to Janes thinking Jesse is like a alter boy.
Hmm ...parallels to Heisenburg's actions with Hank and the guy in the parking lot to surface with Jane's Dad and Jesse
Welcome aboard, Calibob! It's always nice to see new people here sharing their insight on the show. I loved all of the water metaphors you talked about. No matter how closely I watch the show, there's always something I miss. It seems like every tiny thing on the show means something bigger, even if it seems insignificant at first. And BTW, I hate Jane! :)
Zia- "You brought a meth lab to the hardware store?'
That would have been a hilarious line- ref to Jesse at the airport! It would have broken the ominous parking lot mood of the scene, but it would have been hilarious!
It got me thinking maybe Heis could become a sort of consultant/ teacher for all the cookers and producers of the cartel- show 'em all how to do it right, for a fee. That would probably never work in the real world, but it would be like his story of the guy who invented industrial diamond process and only got $10 for it, except Heis would reap much more financially. It would be Heis revenging Walt getting his intellectual property stolen from Him by Gray Matter. Hmm... damn I love this show!
Hey everybody -- Well, I don't think Jane's dad was abusing her sexually, and I most certainly don't believe he's involved with feds or cartel... come on, this is just too far fetched -- not to mention that such a coincidence would turn the whole show a bit cheesy. He's just a concerned parent whose daughter went off drugs recently (18 months chip), who controls her life to some extent (keys to her apartment, numerous references to him being a "hardass" etc.) -- a rather natural thing to expect, considering circumstances... I guess Jane senses that there's something fishy going on with Jesse (her questions about him going to work, whatever that work might mean), she's aware of the growing relationship between her and him, and she's simply trying to protect him in a way -- you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what a parent of a recovering drug addict would do if he learned that his daughter is dating a meth dealer...
It was never brought to light exactly what Jane's past drug history was.
If I remember correctly,, when Jess ask if she want to smoke some marijuana is when the 18 month token came out and then the 12 step drivel of MJ being a step back to the road of ruin.
I've dealed with enough Program people over the years , it's something they say .. and sure there may be some factual basis to it... i don't buy in to all of it. Don't get me wrong , if it works for them .. it's ok. But they parrot a lot of things.
For all that has been said... as far as we know her dad might of just freaked out when he found a bag of weed. ... I sure we all know someone that has been though the same thing with their parents.
People, people...
sexual abuse?
Hank and his wife are "closet meth heads"?
Meth lab in the crawl space?
Really?
He doesn't even want his clothes smelling like a meth lab, yet he is ready to cook right under his house? Are you people serious?
And is it really that strange to think that the only landlord that would give Jesse an apartment or condo would be DEA? I'm sure that the first landlords that Jesse went to were jumping out of their skin to give a 20 something with a possibly extensive criminal record and NO JOB a place to stay! Thats why he told Jane that she was his last chance. Nobody else would ever rent to him!
cheak you the video for ep 11 at the end jesse and walt are talking and its said "things have changed" and jeese says "i know skylur got killed" so my money is on skylur being one of those bodies
I'm intrigued by the idea that Elliott might be the person Saul knows. Remember how he said (to Walt), "he's someone a lot like you."? Why would Saul use that expression? He knows he has to appeal to Walt's comfort level in order to get the big bucks out of him.
Also, the guys at the hardware store: The other dude (not the one Walt met in the store) was one of Tuco's henchmen. He recognized Walt and that's why Walt was able to scare him off so easily.
I noticed Walt's smirk at the party. Walt was pretty loaded, I think. I think it had more to do with "winning" the argument with Hank than any sort of ignoring his son's discomfort, even though it manifested itself as such. Drunk people are pretty self-centered.
At the end of episode 10, in the preview for episode 11, Walt says to Jesse "Things have changed" Jesse says to Walt, "Oh I know, You got a guy killed."
I thought on the preview for Mandala, Jesse replies, "Oh I know, we've got a cartel."
I didn't hear anything about there being someone killed...
Zia, I forgot to press the record button for this episode, and I wanted to pause the show when they showed the cross street signs of Jesse's apartment. In passing, I thought the top sign said Girard, but I couldn't read the bottom sign. I looked on Google maps at the intersection of Girard and Lead, and there's no building there that looks like the apartment. I'm thinking it's somewhere on Girard, but on the north side of Lomas?
mitchell: yeah, I couldn't resist clicking that link either :) Jeez, this show is getting even more intense... only 5 days left for the next dose, lol!
I guess what is so captivating about this show is that you never know which direction it will go: (a) will Walt be ultimately condemned for breaking bad, or (b) will it conclude with a general happy ending sending the message that breaking bad wasn't that bad after all, or (c) will it avoid any definite resolutions leaving us, the fans, facing, uhm, the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle...? I guess I'd love to see the ending being a combination of (a) and (c) -- and by (a) I hope that the writers won't fall into the trap of bad-guy-goes-to-prison scheme, but will come up with something more insightful... Intelligent criminals don't end up in prisons, and Walt certainly is very intelligent -- I guess what I'd love to see is some version of a Shakespearean tragedy that someone mentioned above...
how about on terrace se. and the corner of Lead and terrace... from google earth it matches up
it's the 300 block of terrace... I can make out lead and lead is one way there.. the house on lead looks to be right ...roof color shape ....
Lead looks good on the sign.. and I can only make out the T on jess st... but I don't see any other streets that start with T.. and it sourt of looks like a e afterwards and the right number of letters
I thought he aunts house was around 16thse... and it's short
oh god .. too much time on ones hands...
weeya... drive by the duplex.. if you get a chance ..or someone if down there in duke city
I know this is off-topic. Just discovered that Mark Margolis (Tio) was in Scareface. He was the Bomb planting assassin that Al Pacino blows away in the Car scene in New York. I did'nt know if anyone mentioned this in an earlier thread, so I thought I would.
I also said by 'feds' I did'nt mean just cops. but that if I was mr. white or jesse I would consider jane a fed and that she was acting weird around the guy she said was her dad was cuz they feds and probably setting me up.
Also when I wrote all that shit about 'FEDS' I was super FLUCKING high on some Hiesenburg.
I also said by 'feds' I did'nt mean just cops. but that if I was mr. white or jesse I would consider jane a fed and that she was acting weird around the guy she said was her dad was cuz they feds and probably setting me up.
Also when I wrote all that shit about 'FEDS' I was super FLUCKING high on some Hiesenburg.
... and Jesse aunt's place is around 18th st SE.. Google earth has street view in that area ..one could find it if they dragged around in there..I don't have the patience for that though... lots of trees in that area ..Aerial ..too hard to tell
I'll find Hanks place next ...maybe:)..my ex in laws live over there pretty close I think.. pretty sure it's off Tramway near the bend where it goes from north & south to east and west..over by where the hang gliders land
Plus my point was made about how twisty the writers are and got people to quit guessing lame shit. To predict this show you need to think outside the outside of box.
Blue Runner did you say we're all a bunc,h of meth heads waiting for our next dose?
Liked the episode but I felt bad when his dad gave him the drink though, made me cry inside. But Loved Walt Jr! He just has that sort of presence around him he has characteristics that seemed to be lost to everyone else, innocence, caring, respectful characteristics that just makes you love him (I know I do!) He is most definitely not the typical Hollywood cookie cut. Can’t wait for the next episode!
Blue Runner did you say we're all a bunc,h of meth heads waiting for our next dose!
yes
I said,
"we are all a bunch of BB addicts jonesing til our next dose."
Yeah but I am pretty sure that is the metaphor the show is going for. I get high from the show and have shitty come down as soon as every new episode is over. And ita horrible come down so for the next seven days till the next new one i jones for that high. But have to get high on reruns to keep from crashing and keep from getting sick. And then the next new episode gets me higher than the week before and even more dependant and addicted,
Hi my name is MrBizzo and i am an addict. My uh SHow of choice is BB. The last time i used was yesterday. Wait no sorry that is a lie. I used right before i came to this meeting
Gas water heater installed buy a non professional = KABOOM If it takes out a couple of bad guys at the same time..... Well... thats just great writing!!!
Gas water heater installed buy a non professional = KABOOM If it takes out a couple of bad guys at the same time..... Well... thats just great writing!!!
It is definitely "we got a guy killed," not "we got cartel" or "we got Skyler killed."
My first viewing, the wife and I kept playing that last clip back of the preview trying to hear what Jesse said, but the next day I watched the show again in the other room using my better sound system and it was clear, "we got a guy killed." Like I said yesterday, this is probably in reference to mohawk dealer (Combo) who is shown showing two guys (who I think may end up in the body bags) his gun. Walt is all about revenge.
Regarding the Jesse duplex, that Google picture is it. It has a basement. I wonder if that is connected to Jesse's apartment or has its own entrance and is a third rental. If he has a basement accessible, they could cook there. Judging by the cars in the driveway it isn't a high rent neighborhood. Although I know absolutely nothing about ABQ other than the fact that I landed there once on a connecting flight on the way from Tampa to LA where I didn't even leave the plane and thought how pretty the mountains and terrain looked and what I have seen on the show. The show makes me want to visit the city and look for Breaking Bad locations. To the guy that drove by the house with your extra time, you should setup a Breaking Bad sight seeing tour like they have in Hollywood. Hook up with the owner of Jesse and Jane's duplex for a package deal with an all inclusive package where you stay at the duplex, where you are taken to the White's house for a raisin bran and pancake breakfast, followed by a tour of the grocery store where Walt was naked, the gas station where Skyler bought cigs, and the hardware store, among other locations. You could end the day with tequila shots or non-alcoholic Skyler style beverages and then it is back to the duplex for night number two, complete with usage of Jesse's TV and the Breaking Bad Season 1 DVD set you get to keep, signed by Walt and Jesse. How's that sound? Sounds like a money making operation to me for us fans. Think outside the box man. You have all that time on your hands searching for the duplex. Stop slinging meth on the "streat" and get to work yo.
Regarding the gas water heater- I am pretty sure Walt knows what he is doing and the dangers of gas. He is a chemist and all and he is smart. He is also the type of guy that actually would look at the directions, read every warning, and follow it verbatim. I don't think he installed it wrong. I think somebody comes to the house and Walt uses his mad skills to kill them with some type of explosion.
Somebody mentioned that they may not even be bodies in the bags because of the heat out there. Well, it is late fall in their timeline and a few minutes in a bodybag in the driveway would be required before loading them up for processing. I live in FL with the heat and humidity and while a car can heat up to 160 degrees in just a few minutes with the windows closed, the cops still have to do their job. We don't know how long they laid them out. It could have been done very quickly.
I just cannot wait for the three remaining shows. I am going to feel "down" when it is over for 9 or so months.
It is definitely "we got a guy killed," not "we got cartel" or "we got Skyler killed."
My first viewing, the wife and I kept playing that last clip back of the preview trying to hear what Jesse said, but the next day I watched the show again in the other room using my better sound system and it was clear, "we got a guy killed." Like I said yesterday, this is probably in reference to mohawk dealer (Combo) who is shown showing two guys (who I think may end up in the body bags) his gun. Walt is all about revenge.
Regarding the Jesse duplex, that Google picture is it. It has a basement. I wonder if that is connected to Jesse's apartment or has its own entrance and is a third rental. If he has a basement accessible, they could cook there. Judging by the cars in the driveway it isn't a high rent neighborhood. Although I know absolutely nothing about ABQ other than the fact that I landed there once on a connecting flight on the way from Tampa to LA where I didn't even leave the plane and thought how pretty the mountains and terrain looked and what I have seen on the show. The show makes me want to visit the city and look for Breaking Bad locations. To the guy that drove by the house with your extra time, you should setup a Breaking Bad sight seeing tour like they have in Hollywood. Hook up with the owner of Jesse and Jane's duplex for a package deal with an all inclusive package where you stay at the duplex, where you are taken to the White's house for a raisin bran and pancake breakfast, followed by a tour of the grocery store where Walt was naked, the gas station where Skyler bought cigs, and the hardware store, among other locations. You could end the day with tequila shots or non-alcoholic Skyler style beverages and then it is back to the duplex for night number two, complete with usage of Jesse's TV and the Breaking Bad Season 1 DVD set you get to keep, signed by Walt and Jesse. How's that sound? Sounds like a money making operation to me for us fans. Think outside the box man. You have all that time on your hands searching for the duplex. Stop slinging meth on the "streat" and get to work yo.
Regarding the gas water heater- I am pretty sure Walt knows what he is doing and the dangers of gas. He is a chemist and all and he is smart. He is also the type of guy that actually would look at the directions, read every warning, and follow it verbatim. I don't think he installed it wrong. I think somebody comes to the house and Walt uses his mad skills to kill them with some type of explosion.
Somebody mentioned that they may not even be bodies in the bags because of the heat out there. Well, it is late fall in their timeline and a few minutes in a bodybag in the driveway would be required before loading them up for processing. I live in FL with the heat and humidity and while a car can heat up to 160 degrees in just a few minutes with the windows closed, the cops still have to do their job. We don't know how long they laid them out. It could have been done very quickly.
I just cannot wait for the three remaining shows. I am going to feel "down" when it is over for 9 or so months.
Regarding the crawlspace. I don't think Walt is going to cook down there BUT, that would make an excellent duck and cover space if he were to set off some type of explosion to two guys coming into the house after him.If nothing else he could hide down there.
skotty said about next week's previews, "I noticed that every window in Walt's car is web shattered. That indicates a lot of pressure. More pressure than just a couple gun shots and even if Walt fired on them in the driveway with a gun he isn't going to hit every window. It appears to be a nearby explosion." I noticed the shattered windows, too, but didn't put it together like you did. Great observation! I also didn't see any real body damage to the car other than the windows.
I don't think Hank's dirty or that Walt is building anything under his house...I think he's just reinforcing the joists. I loved the exchange between him and Walt, Jr. as he hands the kid a piece of the wood he's ripped out. He asks Jr. if he's ever seen anything like that before.
"It's wood."
"But it contains fruiting bodies."
"Fruity what?"
Awesome show. Jr. is a total doll. I hope nothing happens to him, and don't think anything will this season anyway. That would probably be reserved for the end of the series run.
The pink teddy bear is giving me total creeps at this point. The masked law enforcement person put it in the white bin and withdrew his hand. Then there was a shot of the teddy bear from the front. It was moving just a tiny bit from just being set down in the bin, but that was so freaking creepy.
Many people have guessed who might be in the body bags. The best guess so far are the two creeps from the parking lot. For sure the fab 6 will be safe for season 3.
Skottey, I agree with you about the water heater. Yea Science, won't screw it up.
In the link that "slipperyduke" provided above, it shows pics of Jane sticking a needle into Jesse's arm.
Oh my gosh you guys...i went to the link of the pic for the next episode and I was shocked to see Jane shooting up Jesse! I read brief descriptions of the last 2 episodes and it says that his addiction causes serious problems. Why would Jane do that if she's in Recovery? I guess it's one day at a time.....but, man, I always tjought she was trouble from the get go.
All of Jesse stuff is gone.. the bed and the flat screen that had real black blacks.
I was okay with that ...but when I found out Jane didn't live next door anymore... I was pissed because 20 illegals live ther now.. and I'm stuck with a year lease....damn
Myabe I can open a Bed and Breakfast for die hard BB fans
Notice how after Walt started letting out that repressed side of his personality, he always gets that little smile on his face ( very subtle) or he gets very sexual with his wife? He has been dying to let that aspect of himself come out. They are starting to show that now, even if he wanted to, he couldn't change his path. The part of his personality that was hidden but always present is starting to take over. Walt is becoming a totally different person.
A Breaking Bad tour! That makes me laugh...I never thought in my life that anyone would want to tour the Hi-Lo Market on N4th Street in Albuquerque, or any Circle K for that matter!
I'm still not sure about that house on Terrace and Lead. I'll ask my brother...he's a city bus driver and knows the Turkey Town pretty good. Wish I could just drive by and check it out myself, but I'm two states away! It would be a very long drive for me.
That scene they keep coming back to of the little Elmo stuffed animal is really fasinating...and no way are those body bags out in the driveway. Body bags aren't laid out in a driveway, they are taken away by an ambulance or in this case, by the police or sheriff's coroner. Those bags are probably some sort of evidence bags. I don't think police body bags would be white.
I said before that I thought those were sheets covering the bodies, not body bags. Someone mentioned that maybe the water heater explodes and kills the two guys that came there to kill Walt and his family. That would be great if that's what happens. It kind of makes sense, although with this show, you can never truly predict what happens. I can't wait!!!
The address, the heater pipes on the roof, the red tiled awnings, the stairway , the blue paint on the concrete , the short distance to Lead st. , the profile of the house across on Lead... they all match up.
certain advantage to have eps. digital.. the real estate link really confirms it all
Only thing missing is Jesse and Jane standing out front :)
But back to real BB stuff.
in the beginning when the crayons, again why would crayons be part of evidence for some drug related event... when the crayonsa re place in the container... it's next to some squarish looking object..it looks like a big ring...any ideas what it is?
i would like that if these guys in the bio-suits were in Law Enforcement there would be some sort of marking on their suits..there is nothing front or back
no DEA or APD ...??..not even AMC :)
proably not the water heater blowing up now that I have looked over it again.. there is one shot that shows the windows ... and they aren't blown out... which I would think would happen most any time a heaters blows up...seems like there would have to be some damage to the garage door to allow such damage to the windshield of the car
I guess they could be body bags.. they do have a strange zipper on them.. but doesn't make sense they would be on the ground like that...seems like they would be removed ..or place in a ambulance
It looks sort of looks like the one bio-guy is writing something on the bag and getting ready to place something in there...gosh is this just buildup to end the season with... get us really wondering ;)
Sorry if this has been mentioned before since it is so obvious that it could be the case.
What if the scene with the pink stuffed animal, the pool, the car, the body bags (or whatever you want to call them) is just a reoccurring dream that Walt is having about fear of losing his family to his choices? Maybe in the 13th episode they show the rest of the scene and then Walt just pops up out of bed like waking up from a bad dream. All this time, all across America, we have been speculating on what this scene is all about and it could just be a really bad dream.
Anyway, regarding the body bags. Don't you think that before they are loaded into an ambulance they are laid out and the bodies are put into them. Just for a minute even. How do we know that they are even white? It is a black and white scene except for the pink toy. Light colored shades appear white in black and white. Like somebody else mentioned of the heat out there. Maybe in hot places black body bags are not used.. Or, they are just sheets like somebody else said. They may not be bodies, but I suspect they are.
Ugh, THOSE ASSHOLES!!!! Anyone listen to the podcasts? I listened to the podcast from episode 10, about 5 or 6 writers and editors talking about the show along with Hank. Although I assumed they wouldn't give much detail about the opening scene, which I was correct about, they have SOME NERVE to laugh about how confused the audience must be about these vague opening scenes!!! Yes, they are laughing at US! Needless to say, they don't give up anything about the opening scene. They even laugh about how pissed the audience will be if these opening scenes aren't clarified by the end of season 2. Don't they understand what we are going through??? Oh, wait. They DO understand our pain, and they laugh at us. How dare they. After hearing this podcast, I'll never watch this show again. Well.....Ok, I'll still watch.
I agree, that's pretty dickish of them to laugh at us. The mystery better be revealed at the end of this season. I don't wanna have to wait another year to see what it's all about. Oh, I better watch what I say, or the writers will laugh at me some more!
"I love Walt Jr., his storyline should be increased for diversity sake! It's cool that a contemporary show is adding a character with a handicapping condition."
zia, that is too funny about Walt Jr.'s toxic puke! XD
It could very well be a dream that Walter is having. Not sure how I would feel about that. I guess I would be relieved that no one important was killed, but I'd feel a bit cheated if they built it up for this long only for it to be a dream.
I would feel soooooo cheated if it all turned out to be a dream. Remember way back when "Dallas" was on and Bobby Ewing dreampt the entire season? What a rip-off. I hope our BB writers don't do that to us.
Oh if the whole series or season ends up to be a dream I think I will burn my DVDs of the show and curl up in a ball and cry for a week. That would totally suck. I meant just the opening sequence part being a bad dream. That wouldn't be so bad. Like you said, at least nobody important to the show dies.
I have enough faith in the show that the writers won't ruin it with something like the whole series being a bad dream but anything can happen. I was only a child when that Dallas show concluded but I remember people not liking that it ended as a dream. Was it just a season or the whole series that was a dream? I thought it was the whole series but you said season.
I was thinking the black and white footage/possible explosion may be a nightmare or an event that takes place at the very very end of the whole series.
I agree with Skottey that opening scene around the pool could just be a dream sequence. That's the feeling that I got from the black and white. If it is an actual preview of things to come, then I think it could be a preview of the series finale, not the season's end. After all it was mentioned in the podcast that it isn't going to be cleared up this season.
The shows Newhart and St. Elsewhere both turned out to all be a dream in their final episodes. BB is WAY above that kind of cheesiness (at least I hope so)!!!
Two tidbits from HANK'S BLOG
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1) Check out Hank's description of Walt during the confrontation:
"I've seen this guy drink before, but I wasn't prepared for the little Jekyll and Hyde thing he had going on."
Further evidence that I think one of the major projects of this series is to recreate the story Jeckyll And Hyde - with an eye to the original writers'intention - We all are are TWO things at once. An instinctive animal-like being as well as a mentally-active thinking being. And this is better than the original because it is a real life internal crossover, as in real life... not an all out physical change brought on by some clever creation.
2) Here is another quote from Hank:
"But maybe my brother-in-law can come up with something. (He kind of owes me one. The reason why is unimportant.)
What exactly is Hank talking about? Is it from the time that Walt Jr. got nailed for trying to buy beer and got let go? Is that really something Walt owes him for?
I'm curious if people think Hank really feels like Walt OWES him... and if so why? This confrontation between them is going to be EPIC. Not only does Hank think Walt "isn't tough", but he thinks he owes him as well. All the better for riteous fireworks when Walt finally drops the hammer on him.
No, not the entire series, only that aftermath opening sequence around the pool. Showing the sequence in black and white seems like a method of insinuating a dream or vision.
Black & white footage has been already used in the show, and it doesn't necessarily refer to a dream -- remember the opening of episode 2.01 with a scene at the junkyard...? It was shot in black and white too. My bet is that this actually is going to be the closing scene of Season 2/opening scene of Season 3, that's what the colors are hinting to.
I don't thing the thugs from Home Depot will resurface in the show, and I'd be really surprised if these were their bodies covered by sheets/stored in the bags in the scene. I seriously fear the victims of the explosion/poisoning/Walt's rampage/hot water tank/whatever will turn out to be some of the main characters of the show, or some of the ones that are yet to become main characters of the show. Now how about Jane's dad...? What if Jane relapses to her drug addiction, her father learns that her boyfriend is a meth dealer, finds all about Walt and Jesse, and decides to take justice into his own hands, which will lead to a tragedy...?
Zia, thanks for pointing out the similarities about the house. I was thinking that the front of the house had two separate doors, but I guess that was the back of the house I was thinking of? So you're going to open a B&B for BB fans? lol You're funny. You can serve dogs from the Dog House and feature breakfast burritos with that special mystery ingredient (it's chile P Yo!)
Love RJ's acting-would like to see more of Him! The show is missing a wonderful opportunity to increase their viewers by developing this character more .He certainly sucks you in with his looks and actions.
Love RJ's acting-would like to see more of Him! The show is missing a wonderful opportunity to increase their viewers by developing this character more .He certainly sucks you in with his looks and actions.
Love RJ's acting-would like to see more of Him! The show is missing a wonderful opportunity to increase their viewers by developing this character more .He certainly sucks you in with his looks and actions.
I love the thought of a B&B for BB fans.
Carr70508 : I agree, I would love to see more of him. I love what RJ does with his character. Walt Jr. is the best role model in the show - a kid who respects his family even when his parents don't deserve the devotion
Thanks weeya,
I was scoping around Google Earth.... tramway area..what kind of sets Hank's place as different is .. a cul-de-sac kind of out by itself. Most of the places right off tramway rd. are fairly high density.
Looks to be a fairly new development north of the tram.. that would seem about right
Burritos... as long as it green chili from Chimayo or Hatch ...I am hooked on green chili.
The B&B for BB fans... you guys caught that one fast :) and I so try to be subtle
pg ... I don't think the main thug from the parking lot is even going to mess with Heisenburg.. I really have to watch "crazy hand full of nothing" again... but pretty sure it's the same guy that was one of Tuco's Guards.. he knows what Walt is capable of
Calibob I think what Hank thinks Walt owes him is about looking for him when he disappeared, and keeping Skyler and Jr. from freaking out. Or going into anything about the second cell phone or what that may mean.
Maybe Hank is laboring under the illusion that he covered for Walt in that whole disappearance thing (and his frequent absences from the house as I'm sure Skyler has let Marie know and Hank knows from Marie) because he actually thinks Walt is having an affair. That would be quite a laugh if he thinks that's what Walt is up to, and that he covered for Walt.
zia-I told you about Jane when I first saw her, lol. ;)
I didn't even think about the hardware store guys being like Walt and Jesse, but you're right! Although I think Jesse is probably a little smarter than the goofball who ran away. :)
I'm kind of old... but isn't what is called a tramp stamp pretty much in a specific area ....... not much imagination needed as to what side is up :)
..now with BikerBurg & ShoppingCartMan
just a bit funny that they are in a RV also.
I just watched Crazy Handful of Nothing again..lol
one of my favorites...when Heisenburg comes alive
I really can't tell if it the same guy that let Walt up to see Tuco...looks a lot thinner..but wasn't it a pretty long time btwn season1 and season 2... what that when the strike was?
guess he could of built up that much... no credits on Imdb as to who the hardware store guys are
and the closeup of Bikerburg isn't near as clear as the lookout in sea.1 ep.6
I loved that episode where Walt blew up Tuco's hideout. He has major balls as Heisenberg! Yeah there was quite a bit of time between seasons, so that could have been him.
LMAO, zia! That was funny!!
One time, my daughter suggested a Tramp Stamp, for me.
When I asked her, what should it say, she giggled, "ALL ABOARD!!"
Ohhhhhh...that ornery girl!!! ;)
(Needless to say, I still don't have any tats! ha ha ha!)
Also ya'll, that was GREAT, about the B&B for BB fans!!! So...when ya gonna be open for business?!? =\ The fans await!!
James26 Guess your "good riddance" wishes, for Jane, are finally going to come true!
In Pamala's "Predictions"...one of my WAY OFF guesses, was that: Jane would get abducted by the Human Traffickers & taken down to Mexico, to be "sold"...but, later rescued! =)
As far as Jane being shown, shooting Jesse up, with a needle... I've not seen the pic yet, but will go check it out...
Maybe, he ends up being diabetic???
OR...wait!!! It's an Epi-pen!! 'Cuz he was "Bit by a Dead Bee!!"
BWA ha ha ha! =D
well i think our dear jane is a minor way underage for our man jesse and if her controlling dad found out she would have to anwser to that and if it was me i would never want to anwser so in short i think its just a fight between parent and child NOTHING THERE i am so syked about the rest of the season i go over synarios in my mind all day long oh by the way i was yelling at skyler to not grab her bosses hand i hate adultery why not leave then get your groove on hateing her charicter
i think the whole thing with the pool scene is a foresight plus i love the black and white perspective it kinda reminds me of schlindlers list where it shows all the dead bodies in a pile and you see the little girl who is wearing the red jacket the pink bear is also in the twaughhammer video so it might mean the death of jesse but with this show who knows this show has more twist and turns than a epileptic whorehouse
also while iam thinking about it has anyone seen the right guard comercial with the guy who plays badger every time i see it it cracks me up i think back to the video of him and walt breaking in to the old laddys house my nana has a vacum cleaner you can have lol
It has been noted that in the opening black/white filmed scene that it looks like debris from an explosion, and Walt's car windows have the spider fractures, but the home doesn't look damaged. Maybe Walt uses some more of that explosive rock that he used in Tuco's HQ during the first season. I could see Walt getting challenged by the Mexican Cartel, etc. and not having a gun, but may have some of that rock left. This might explain the damage we see, but not a totally destroyed house, like would happen with a gas leak in a crawl space detonating.
One option for Jayne and her "dad" could be that she has been busted for doing/dealing drugs in the past, and now the DEA or other cops have her over a barrel and she's working for them. If she was a cop herself, I don't think that she would be so quick to sleep with Jessie, but if she's just a snitch for the cops, that's different.
I haven't re-watched the shows after seeing Walt go down into the crawl space to "clear out the rot", but from what has been shown of the outside of the house, the house looks like it would have a concrete floor with no crawl space. Not a part of the plot, but maybe a goof by the director(?)
My wife and I have thought about recording this show and watching it earlier in the day, because we've had trouble sleeping after the total rush of shows like when Tuco is killed. Mostly it's just thinking about all of the clues that are given in the show (and in this forum), and the many directions that the show could go, and how we've not been able to guess right, yet.
You mentioned Saul knowing some heavy hitters. When Jessie was trying to rent the appartment from Jane, Jane told Jessie that she also knew some heavy hitters that she could call in to TCOB. When Jessie's dealer was busted a couple of shows back, we thought that some of Jane's hoods might be called in to work for Jessie.
I agree with you on the slab foundation. Looking at the outside of the house would put it in the right timeframe to no longer have crawls spaces.. On thing about NM is you have maybe six inches of topsoil and then it's big ass rocks... Jesse Aunt's place old enough ... Jesse and Jane's den of iniquity ... 100 years old... pier and beam
The White's place .. looks to be a Bellamah home ..slab... probably 24" centers on framing.
NM is not well know for building quality homes.
Probably blasted to put the pool in.
I don't see Walt having the Mercury Fulminate just laying around the house , he did have a very large amount .. a pound ?? ... there is a youtube on how to make it ????.. it does weaken with time .. the fun stuff we can find out on the web
But can you picture that stuff with a sling shot
odds and probalitys of Jesse renting a place next to a DEA snitch ??... Daddy's got money .. probation ... unless the slut killed someone too.
that slut reference is there for a reason ... ehhh James....lol
I'm curious ... slut slamming blue or smack... oh my ...sunday is soooo far away
I'm watching "Over" right now, and the Jane/Dad/Jesse scene. Poor Jesse, he's really into Jane and falling hard. Probably his first serious "adult" relationship. I mean he even decorated his living room, like it's a little home or something (matching recliners, furniture, decoration, etc). It sure doesn't look like some young guy's slobby bachelor pad. Cooking breakfast for the little woman? Boy, he's just so giving. Jesse really wants a home and family or ties so badly. It's really a shame. Makes you want to cry for Jesse.
If Ted Bennecke is cooking the books, did he hire Skyler figuring he could just sweet-talk and charm her out of noticing any discrepancies, unlike a complete stranger? Was the former bookkeeper let go or fired for being too inquisitive? Is Ted banking on his former flirtation with Skyler to protect him from questions, but have his books kept creatively? He's being pretty forward with an about-to-drop-the-baby married woman. Is Skyler a patsy?
Jane's Dad. (I know some are sick of the subject) How about he's a Judge? Jesse somehow ends up in his courtroom?
Just for laughs: Skyler and her boss in the body bags! Walt comes home and finds them making out by the pool. (Silly, I know)
For James26: How about Jane and, well, anyone else in the body bags :-)
Body bags, or not, left out too long or not: If the guys are in "hazmat" suits, then maybe a "different" type of bag, and not put into a Coroner's van right away but waiting for special transport.
Literary License, I suppose, but why is the bear not IN the bag instead of partially hanging out of it?
I too, wonder why Skyler and Walt Jr. are not asking where the money is coming from for the Water Heater and repairs. Perhaps not enough time to deal with all of the plot threads? Especially with an army of us using fine tooth combs vs. only a handfull of busy writers.
From the trailers running on AMC for next week. Skyler saying you could go to jail for that. What did she discover about the Keller account? That the boss took over the business from his dad does not make him a good businessman! Maybe he's got a sideline in money laundering to prop up a failing business?
Hi Skottey and james 26....I had a company lucheon to attend yesterday so am just now catching up with the posts. You're correct that St. Elsewhere and Newhart both had dream sequences too.I think they were winking at Season nine of "Dallas" though. That was way back in '84 when the producers of that show lamely decided to explain the death and reappearnce of Patrick Duffy's charachter "Bobby Ewing" as a dream Victoria Principal's charachter "Pam" had. Lame, lame, lame. I don't think our brilliant BB writers would ever take an easy way out like that. For just a scene, I do suppose it's possible though. Of course, anything would be better than them killing of our beloved Walt or Jesse : )
Wow! I missed a lot of posts since I had to work all day yesterday, and last evening went to my daughter's school play "Alice in Wonderland", and at the end Alice had dreamt it all! How ironic! Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gilligans Island end up being a dream too? And the top BB guy is named Gilligan too? Hmmmm.....
I'm thinking the big reason Ted hired Skyler was because since he knew her from working there before, he could lovey-dovey her into looking the other way if she found a problem in the books from whatever funny shit he's up to. Maybe the former bookeeper got the axe because she came across the same "mistakes" and threatened to blow the whistle on him?
Hi James....I'm doing pretty good : ) Only 3 more days until our next episode. Then I'll be doing better! It'll be awful when the seaon's over though. What will we do for all those months? How are you today? Great, I hope : )
Hey, I'm doing pretty good too! :) I know what you mean, it will suck so bad when the show is over for another nine months or so. A show this great needs to be on every week! :)
No way that there are 1 or 2 main characters dead in those bodybags- By showing the bodybags in that scene, the writers WANT people to think there is a chance that a main character dies. Maybe to keep people watching the show to find out what happens ( like we AREN'T obsessed as it is ). In a show like this, the death of a main character would be completely unexpected, unless its showing what happens during the very final episode. The death of Skyler or Walt Jr. anytime soon would bring the action of the show to a screeching halt.
I can't ever remember being this into a show. Some of the other shows I have been really into are LOST, Prison Break, The Sopranos and Oz.....but nothing compares to this. I have never been on a message board before but have been reading your guys' converstaions for some time and really wanted to be a part of it. I'm in California.....how about you? Are you one of those lucky Eastcoasters who gets the show 3 hours early? I used to have satellite and could watch it early too but now I have Cable and have to wait until 10:00pm PST. It's always worth the wait though : )
It's so cool that we're all from different parts of the US but have come together on this site and can talk about our favorite show. I have asked almost everyone I know here in town and nobody watches Breaking Bad! I keep tellimg them what they're missing but I can't get them to tune in.
How's the weather in Michigan? i'm in Sacramento and it's supposed to be 100 degrees tomorrow!
Slygirl: I'm in CA too... waiting all week for a next episode is bad enough, but the part of every Sunday from noon on till 10 pm is a torture :)
I guess my addiction to the show is getting a bit out of hand -- yesterday I spent like two hours watching some crap on AMC just to catch this Breaking Bad promo where Combo gets killed that everybody is talking about, lol Yeah, I can't remember being that obsessed with a show, and I'm a bit surprised that you can still actually get that much into a show at my age, haha!
Hi pg1978....were you born in 1978/ That's no where near old : ) I feel left out because I haven't seen that promo yet. Dang! Does Combo really get killed or is it unlear?
bfn I think that's exactly why Ted hired Skyler as his bookkeeper. She was applying for a data entry job initially. When she pushed her way in to his office, I think he decided right then on impulse to "offer" her the bookkeeper job. Bet the job wasn't open until that moment - LOL.
I'm residing in So.Cal. I have to say that I'm also addicted to this show. Its one of the most original TV shows that I can remember watching. The characters and plot are really compelling. I think the choice of location is also a big draw. New Mexico is a visually stunning place if you like Desert and Mountains. When I was a kid, I remember traveling there. We covered a lot of the state as we were headed to Las Cruces to visit Family.
Well as others have said this is the tipping point of where Walt lets more of his "Heisenberg" persona become part of him, anyone notice he's actively shaving his head even though he's no longer under going chemo?
Slygirl-The weather is crappy in Michigan, lol. It's really windy here and we're supposed to have rain too. I know what you mean about trying to get people to watch BB. I keep telling my friend to watch it, and how good it is, but he never watches tv, lol! In the promo I saw on AMC, it looks like Combo is pretty dead, which sucks. :(
Zehbrahs, I think you can attribute him shaving his head to the fact that "Heisenberg" has arrived and is firmly established now. For Walter White/ Heisenberg there's no going back now.
Slygirl: yeah, I was born in '78, which was like a century ago, lol I'm sorry to say that, but it really looks like Combo is getting killed -- I can't imagine how writers can possibly resurrect him, the scene in the promo where he gets shot and lands flat on his face is rather unambiguous, and then we hear Jesse say "We've got a guy killed..." So, yeah, it sucks, but he looks pretty darn dead to me.
On a more cheerful note, I'll be going to TX this summer -- the trip is about my work, but now I'm pretty sure that instead of just flying, I'm going on an epic roadtrip with a prolonged stop in ABQ :)
Yes, Zehbrahs - good eye! I noticed, and thought what the hell?. I was surprised Skyler didn't complain. Isn't Walt over chemotherapy or is he about to start a new round? It is indicative of the internal shift to more Heisenberg - I was just surprised he got away with it at home without complaint (or legitimate reason, I thought).
Okay, where's his black hat? I liked that, but he seems to have given up wearing it (I guess he only got decked out in his formal wear for Tuco - LOL).
Yeah, Combo's gonna get it allright! Just saw the BB preview a minute ago while watching Death Wish 3! I love Charles Bronson. He's of Ukrainian descent like I am.Trying to figure out what (or whose?) door that is Walt is kicking in on that preview commercial.
Greetings Slygirl08! I'm from central PA. Wanted to mention earlier that some dude was busted somewhere near here that had a meth lab in his Dodge Caravan! No shit! Anyhoo, I drove through Sacramento years ago - nice city!
Lets get to the Breaking Bad facts people. I've seen all episodes so far. after watching this last episode, it seems that Walt is embracing his calling. He has embraced the fact that he has started something. A Meth boss. Once you start making that kind of money, It's hard to go back to a normal life. It's kind of cool though. He is a brilliant person, teacher, and he knows REAL Chemistry...hence, a perfect methylamine genius. I mean thats his area of study. His profession, what he went to college for.
So it was given that he would eventually fall into the drug field.
And his step brother is a deuce. I hope he punches him, and show his son the ropes(his footsteps).
This is a great show. I have never been addicted to a show like this before.
Everyone should try out for Breaking Bad. Keep on the look out for Casting Calls! If your into acting. Sucks about the fee you have to pay!
"Over" - Brother-in-law friendship between Hank and Walt?
I think Walt is finally getting tired of Hank taking control of what is in the best interest of the family. DEAs are jerks, control freaks. Especially higher ranks.
Plus, Walts a meth boss now, He shouldn't like DEA scum!
I like it so much I am going to have to go see Gov. Richardson and see about getting Clayton, NM renamed to Clayton Neuman, NM it is kind of a tounge twister... He might go for it though , are you good with that .. ;)
Tomorrow is free evening at the Georgia O'Keefe Museum, so I'll be wearing this BB shirt when I go. I've never been 86'ed out of a bar, but pretty sure I'll be asked to leave tomorrow night when I ask ...
Hey Aaron, just wondering.... Who, exactly, is Walt's step-brother? And just because he studied Chemistry, it was "given that he would eventually fall into the drug field?" I guess just like all the other high school Chemistry teachers/meth producers? Didn't know there were so many Chemistry teachers/meth producers in the world. You would think the teachers unions would pay the Chemistry teachers more money so they don't end up going to the "Bad" side.
How do you think this season compares with last season? They are both so poerful it's hard for me to say. Season 1 got me hooked and Season 2 keeps me wanting more. I'm sooooooo glad there's going to be a Season 3!
I've been a member since the first season, although I hardly posted then. I joined after the third episode where Walter killed Krazy-8. Still one of my favorite episodes. I'm so glad that there's gonna be a season 3 too! :)
That was one of my favorite episodes too! I remember when Walt realized that part of the plate he had served Crazy 8 from was missing. That's when he knew he had to kill or be killed. a true pivitol turning point in the life and character of Walter White
That whole sequence was brilliant, from him talking to Krazy-8 and getting to know him, to realizing the piece of the plate was missing, to ultimately strangling Krazy-8. That was when he truly became a killer, and there was no turning back. I was so affected by that whole scene!
I saw most of last season, but didn't discover there was a forum on AMC.com until after Ep. 1 of this season. I'm glad I found it - I love sharing insights with all of you just as much as I love THE FREAKING SHOW!!! This is one of the best shows I have ever seen on television. Ever. It even blows Law And Order outta the water, and I've been watching that show for 20 years. Thank goodness BB isn't on the same time as my L&O is!! Another show I really was getting hooked on was Life on Mars, but ABC in their infinite wisdom cancelled it. Oh well, ABC always DID suck anyway.
Last season succeeded in getting my attention little by little till I was hopelessly hooked by like the next to last episode. At the beginning I'll admit I was a bit skeptical, since I have really seen a lot of very shitty TV shows (If I see another reality show, I'll puke!). This season just escalated it all to the stratosphere, and there's no turning back now!! Who would imagine a television program would bring all of us really cool BB viewers from everywhere and all walks of life together! Rock on BB!!
Totally! Remember Krazy-8 telling him that he worked in his dad's furniture store and probably met Mr. White as a kid? Walt even made a pros and cons list about whether or not he should kill him. I remember that look of realization that came over his face about the missing jagged edge of the plate. He went from being a mild-mannered Chemistry teacher to a killer in that moment, I will never look at a Kryptonite bike lock the same way again!
That's the power of Breaking Bad, bigfreakinnaz! It brings people together because it's so addictive. I agree with you that there's mostly nothing but crap on tv, and it still amazes me that there's a show as good as BB, and on a free channel no less!
Slygirl-Yeah I know! It was almost sad when Walt realized he met Krazy-8 as a kid. Small world. I could literally feel Walt's pain over not wanting to kill him, but knowing he had no choice. You could see the conflict in his face. That made for some of the best tv I've ever seen!
I just read Hank's blog, and when he hinted at Walter, he said "The guy shares his name with Harvey Keitel's character in a certain Tarantino movie"! I just watched Reservoir Dogs the other night on Bravo. One of the best lines is when Michael Madsen says "I don't like alarms, Mr. White!" It would be cool if Jesse said that at some point on BB! XD
Aaron Nice take on Walt possibly grooming Junior as a cook. I'd have never thought of that! I think Junior has his brains (unlike Jesse), though I think Jesse will end up being Walt's heir to his meth business, not Junior.
Yes, Walt was born to be in the drug field, but he could've gone into legal pharmaceuticals like research or development rather than meth! LOL!! He still would've made pretty good $$ (I think).
It's all a dream. He wakes up face down at the car wash after living an entire life while unconscious for 5 minutes. Didn't STNG have a great episode like that? Why not extend that concept to a 3 season series?
Oh god, LOL hisenbaker. Now they can't use the it was all a dream conclusion. From everyone's recollections, it pretty much sounds like every series in television copped out with that kind of series-ending finale. LOL
jamm...LOL! OK, then...how about it all, just being a hallucination??? =) Ha ha!
zia...LMAO! Have fun wearing your BB shirt, while visiting the museum!
Careful, you might start a riot, by asking for the "P*$$y Pictures!" Bwa ha ha ha!! >=)
James26 did you used to go by the username "Sir Smokes A Lot"? Something about your style of posting, seems familiar.
Not to be nosy, but, when you posted that you're from Michigan...it got me wondering... =)
mikebiff2325 ..."They" might be snickering at us now...
But, will be roaring with laughter, when we all freak out, after finding, this whole show was really created, by the DEA...
And...EVERY one, of our posts are, currently being monitored, recorded & filed away. ;)
I feel a crack-down, coming on!!! =O
KIDDING!!! Just kidding!!
While that was all in fun...it does make me curious, though...wonder how many DEA agents are fans of Breaking Bad??? =\ Hmmmmmm...
Last scene of episode 3/13. Walter slowly sits up. A smear of drool coagulated on the side of his face. The russian owner of the car wash has a worried expression from this low camera angle. Then the camera pans across crowd of concerned onlookers including Jesse, Krazy-8, Saul, Jane , Tuco, Tortuga, the Cowardly Lion and the Tin Man, etc. "How long was I out?" he says.
Too many posts I know. Jesse is Scarecrow. Saul is Cowardly Lion. We won't get to see who the Tin Man is until early next season. Haven't they even used the term "Munchkins" for the people Jesse paid to get Psuedo?
This show CAN'T end as a long dream sequence. If they did end the show like that, then they wouldn't be able to make "Breaking Bad: The Movie" once the series is over. Well, one can only hope. LOL.
Oh, and P.S., there is no way Walt is going to teach Junior how to cook.
In this week's TV Guide for May 18-31, they have a paragraph on the Season Finale. It doesn't sound good for any of the characters, especially Jesse.
About his character, Jesse, Aaron Paul is quoted as saying: "Jesse has no interest in getting sober - he doesn't believe he has a serious problem. He's OK with the life he's living, and he doesn't want to change that."
How long until Walt tells Jesse "I don't need you anymore"? Their entire business agreement was for Walt to cook and Jesse to get rid of it. If they get a "high volume distributor" through Saul, what does Walt need Jesse for? Especially if Jesse's drug use gets much worse. Walt could cook by himself. Serious trouble could be brewing between those two if Jesse becomes undependable.
Very true Mike. Even though Walt is brutally loyal and trusts Jessie there has been lots of problems that Walt has had to clean up on his account. I expect there will finally be a breaking point of that loyalty when Jessie gives up and wants to hang with the Jane and smoke up rather than work.
Well, if the entire series ends in a dream with him waking up in the carwash, or any other place for that matter, I stand behind my DVD burning of a show ruined and my faith in hollywood ruined.
I will invite you all to partake in a DVD burning ceremony.
My thoughts were that just the opening sequences with the pink toy and the bodybags were a reoccurring nightmare Walt is having. Not the whole series.
And who is to say it will end at S3E13 guys. Have a little faith that they will be renewed for S4. We could be on the edge of our seats for a few years to come.
There could be a lot of potential "Over" in this program that we'll find out tonight. Could it be:
"Over" - Walt making meth?
"Over" - Jesse and Jane?
"Over" - Walt and Skyler?
"Over" - Walt and Jesse?
"Over" - Hank and the DEA?
"Over" - Brother-in-law friendship between Hank and Walt?
This is tough to guess!
Can't wait for tonight's episode, but also don't want it to be "over" for the season. It's going to be a long dry summer waiting for season 3. Please, Please, Please tell me there is going to be reruns. I can't believe I'm begging for reruns.
What's up, friends........counting down till "over"......
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The previews looked really exciting!!!
30 minutes & counting...ahhhh, the anticipation!
It ain't over til the pregnant lady sings!!! =) LOL
Now, we're back in BB territory! You see that! Woo! It's getting scary!
Killer intro.....no???
And there was something pink hanging on the wall behind Walt in that last pool scene after the run in w/Hank and the pool puke.......almost looked like a certain stuffed animal!
who knows........HURRY UP COMMERCIALS.......\m/
Thanks Clayton for doing a great job at the moderating. You probably dont get enough praise so I'll say it now before the rest of us have other things to say. They all want to say... Ahh you Know. Y'all know the rest Yada... Yada... Yada
tj AMC is stingy about reruns or running them on Fancast (Comcast's website for reruns of tv episodes) which you'd think they would utilize since MadMen and Breaking Bad episodes are both rerun on Comcast's On Demand. I really don't understand why - both series are blue chip creations, so you'd think they broadcast them alot, especially when their viewers are begging for it.
Maybe you can console yourself with AMC's miniseries The Prisoner which is scheduled for sometime in 2009 or MadMen starting in late July or August.
There is a fine line between making a character "conflicted" or "complicated" or "multi-layered" and turning them into a jerk (the pool scene). I don't like watching shows about jerks. There are plenty of scenarios that can be used to portray the mental problems Walt is having without getting into white trash territory. It looks like it's time to turn it over to Jesse and send Walt back to school.
"is the house gonna collapse or something?
"NOT IF I CAN HELP IT!"
lmfao.......hilarious
Has Jesse been taking vocabulary lessons? How do you want to proceed? He asks?
Hank's quite a brewmeister. Beer and margueritas. yummy. Walt's speech was overwhelming. Hank's feeling good again, bragging about work again. Getting high and mightly as Uncle Hank again too. The male bonding around the pool was a nice touch. Wonder if daddy will ever know about Hank and the stripper. Hank and Walt showdown, didn't see that coming, but Walt better be careful who he's showing Heisenberg to. Is he subconsciously wanting to get caught and punished for his sins? Or has he finally got the balls with his new persona to show Hank he has a pair too. Now he's back in the doghouse with Skylar again, fool.
Loved the bloodspot on the money in the hardware store. You can run but you can't hide Walt.
Kangaman and Joey?? and Rewindo? Jesse, are you 4? And they all look like him? Uh oh, poor baby Jane. And rejecting Jesse like that, now he's a confused little boy again. Just when he thought he knew what was what. Guess Jane was right when she said she doesn't like commitment. Poor Jesse.
So now Walt thinks he's Joe Handyman? Or is he going to build a vault in the crawlspace for the money?
And Skylar!! You hussy! Didn't take you long to hang on to the boss's hand for comfort did it? Knew that was coming but didn't know it was coming so fast. Guess the baby's going to have a "special" uncle!!
How poetic that Walt's trying to get the "rot" out of his house. How about looking in the mirror Walt?
STAY OUT OF MY TERRITORY! Love it ! You are hooked Walt... You ARE Heisenberg..
Hahahaha killer ending.......though it was also among the cheesiest BB moments....."Stay off of my turf"? What is this Beat Street? hahahahahahaha
Two hours to go west coast time...
I just stocked up with two beers. I hope they last! (doubtful)
Has Jesse been taking vocabulary lessons? How do you want to proceed? He asks?
Hank's quite a brewmeister. Beer and margueritas. yummy. Walt's speech was overwhelming. Hank's feeling good again, bragging about work again. Getting high and mightly as Uncle Hank again too. The male bonding around the pool was a nice touch. Wonder if daddy will ever know about Hank and the stripper. Hank and Walt showdown, didn't see that coming, but Walt better be careful who he's showing Heisenberg to. Is he subconsciously wanting to get caught and punished for his sins? Or has he finally got the balls with his new persona to show Hank he has a pair too. Now he's back in the doghouse with Skylar again, fool.
Loved the bloodspot on the money in the hardware store. You can run but you can't hide Walt.
Kangaman and Joey?? and Rewindo? Jesse, are you 4? And they all look like him? Uh oh, poor baby Jane. And rejecting Jesse like that, now he's a confused little boy again. Just when he thought he knew what was what. Guess Jane was right when she said she doesn't like commitment. Poor Jesse.
So now Walt thinks he's Joe Handyman? Or is he going to build a vault in the crawlspace for the money?
And Skylar!! You hussy! Didn't take you long to hang on to the boss's hand for comfort did it? Knew that was coming but didn't know it was coming so fast. Guess the baby's going to have a "special" uncle!!
How poetic that Walt's trying to get the "rot" out of his house. How about looking in the mirror Walt?
STAY OUT OF MY TERRITORY! Love it ! You are hooked Walt... You ARE Heisenberg..
Dave, damn-it, don't get too depraved on us here. Ok?
Ok, like Walt says, we have "rot". That whole episode was rotten - the best show on TV just became super-boring.
Who thought up a 16 yr old throwing up in the pool after only 3 shots? Everyone knows teens drink more than adults! I think that was the most exciting part too, that's pretty sad.
There goes another hour of my life that I'll never get back. Hope next week improves....
What if f*ckin Skylar and Walt, Jr. are in the body bags???
HOLY SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!
alliwant for christmas is a BB boxed set !!
(Damned east-coasters anyhow)
Thought Walt was going to blow up the house putting in the new hot water heater.
Anyone wanna share their insights on what happened in the intro. Pretty Boring episode IMO but got a little intense at the end. Heisenburg is getting crazy, and his wife is getting pretty weak, never really liked her since the beginning of this show. And Jane is obvioussly got some issues going on she doesnt want to let Jesse in on.
"stay off my turf"
Awesome quote considering the humor in it: Walt being as old as he is has that oldschool touch to his badassness. I found that funny.
What do you guys think about the body bags, are we sure there are even people in there? I thought this episode was a bit slow, with only three more eposides, i expected more action. Are we sure the teddy bear thing is even going to happen this season. Also the house seems pretty much intact. The teddy bear has to come into play soon.
"stay off my turf"
Awesome quote considering the humor in it: Walt being as old as he is has that oldschool touch to his badassness. I found that funny.
What's Walt trying to do, get his ass kicked? It's a wonder those two "competitors" didn't tell him "Fuck YOU!!" and proceeded to do so after Walt tells them to "Stay off his turf".
Unforgiven plugs his ears; chanting "Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla -- I can't hear you -- bla bla bla".
"stay off my turf"
Awesome quote considering the humor in it: Walt being as old as he is has that oldschool touch to his badassness. I found that funny.
When Skyler made the toast to Gretchen and Elliott, I kept waiting for someone at the party to say, "Wait a minute...she told me he didn't take the money!"
There have now been three references to Jane's dad (by her) as being a "hard ass". We met him tonight and he seemed innocuous enough, but... they do seem to be tossing out a few red herrings now.
Again an outstanding episode. I may be wrong but it seems as if Walt may have dipped into his own makings in this episode. Let the Turf war begin... Hank is going to have his hands full next season with the start of a Turf war brewing up at the winding down of this season. Stephen King being the magnificent writer he his giving Breaking Bad a good review, Vince Gilligan can take that as one of the highest compliments he could ever get. And I say once more, another great episode that leaves you wanting more...
He did not say "stay off my turf"! He said "Stay out of my territory". I suppose it is a subtle difference but it is incredible how many people are quoting it incorrectly.
Quote by: tj on May 10, 2009 9:59 PM
So now Walt thinks he's Joe Handyman? Or is he going to build a vault in the crawlspace for the money?
LMAO...looks like it...did you catch what was said, over the speakers at the hardware store?
"Looking for a place to stash your stuff?"
and, something about "the grass looking greener, on the other side of the fence."
I too loved the "Stay out of my territory" quote... Intense. The most boring for me was the cooking in the desert...
Anyone got a line on the tune that was playing when walt confronted the competitor cooks in the parking lot when he says the aforementioned quote? id love to dl it.
I wonder if he is building a vault in the crawlspace eh your probably right. And for hisenbaker what do you mean when you say "tossing out a few red herrings"?
I think the title "Over" refers to Walt wanting his partnership with Jesse to be "over". That's why he told Jesse that when this batch is sold, he's done. This is Walt's way of trying to cut Jesse out because he wants someone with bigger plans and more toughness.
AWESOME episode with a freaking awesome song at the end! I love the music they use for this show!
Gree-c - they hinted at an ultra bad guy named Lalo a couple of episodes ago, and now these references to Jane's "hard ass" dad. Then frustratingly small amounts of information proceed. It's hard to tell what really is/was a "red herring" until the final analysis though.
Does anyone know the name of the song at the end?
I think it means Heisneberg is over being walt. He is becoming proactive now. And why would he need a vault? The lawyer is running money scams for him. Its all on the level as far as paper trail. He is also over hearing about his brother in laws escapades... Heisenberg has bigger tales to weave. How could he cut jesse out? the show would be reduced to walt and the dea and hed have to make his own distribution ring... meaning an end to all of the other show plots... even that of making money for his family. That idea is ludicrous.
Ok...In the beginning of the episode it shows men in "quarantine" uniforms collecting evidence.The main focus item is a Red stuffed animal. Then a smashed car and two people in separate body bags. Did I miss something?
Then they mentioned that Gretchen and her husband couldn't make it (the one's who used Walt for his work and made all the profit). Was it them in the body bags? Does anyone have this answer? Either I missed something or we'll just have to wait for the next episode I guess.
What was the song at the end of the episode? Loved it! Great episode Walt is a badass!
johnny friday, i think its a tv on the radio song
The body bags contain bad guys. Courtesy of Walt
Thanks AROBOT ill try and track it down.
DLZ is the name of the song, i believe
the song is Tv on the radio - DLZ
i hope this is the first post!
The song is Dlz from TV on the Radio from last year's Dear Science Album - link to song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N31oFeinFY
And was perfectly placed in the episode. Rock that shiz Walt.
Jane and dad - did she just think dad would not approve of her relationship with Jesse? Or she just wasn't ready to go there with her dad.
Why did Walt "break bad" on Hank? Exerting his new personality? I knew Jr. was going to hurl! You don't just start off with Tequila - give the kid a beer first to see how he handles it.
I am so glad he finally bought a new hot water heater! But he is getting manic on the home repair. I thought his family was going to scream.
Preview looks good - there is someone who has been in the business for 20 years and had not been caught..... Hank perhaps? His lifestyle looks too nice on a DEA Agent's and x-ray tech's salary/
the song is Tv on the radio - DLZ
i hope this is the first post!
Thanks ARobot, kick ass song, I just downloaded it!
Maybe the Drug Dealer that Walt told to stay out of his territory comes to his house and kills Walt's wife and kid, Walt will go even more crazy and cook the biggest batch of meth and starts making people dissapear, but on the other hand im not sure
the song is Tv on the radio - DLZ
Thanls for the leads, enjoy everyone
"Meet the stoner guy next door, and by the way... im sleeping with him"
Pink63 - Jane's dad is a scary dude.
Good call on Hank's financial status, I've wondered about that also.
Talk about a roller-coaster ride of emotions!
Warning to those on the West Coast: Take some Dramamine before this episode!! LOL
most bad ass ending ive seen on this show yet, walt told jesse he was done but after seeing that degenerate in the bootleg home depot and hearing those beeps, he realized he's not a "handyman dad" and thats when he put those odor removing cans down. i'm waitin for walt to start killing heads
Jessie and Walt did say in the previews for next week that "things have changed, people are dead". Hmmm?
The body bag scene is a foreshadowing, you didn't miss anything. It's just got us all wondering what is going to happen at the house to cause all that mess. I think the cartel is going to find Heisenberg and teach him a lesson, but send in the wrong clowns and they blow themselves up in an empty house. But it will put Walt on the run.
JohnnyFriday, you're right about the lawyer running the money for them, but I don't think Walt's going to trust him with everything, he's going to need a stash, and they're going to need a place to stash the meth. Where is it right now? At Jesse"s? What if Jane's Dad turns out to be cartel? Then who's ass is grass?
Glad there are a few more eps in this season.
1.Intro freaked me out. 2.Funniest episode yet. 3.Has anyone ever actually swam in that damn pool? 4.Hank is an asshole, Walt was totally in the right in that tequila shot scenario. 5. Oh Skylar, if you only knew the truth. 6. I really, really thought Walt was gonna blow the house up with the new water heater. Oh well, the whole Mr. Fix It thing was great anyway. 7. I predict the whole thing being over with them catching Walt Jr. with some of that infamous blue meth.
Dizzizzle - Yes. He set down 2 gallons of KILZ. What does that mean?
Pink63 I like how you think about Hank. I was thinking maybe our friend Saul was talking about himself.
Janes dad is Q from STNG, he is a heavy hitter of an actor to play a cameo... he will be involved in the storylines coming up. I figure jesse will want out before walt will let him due to the budding relationship. I wonder if the body bags will contain the lawyer, remember when they took him into the desert and started freaking out in spanish and them being sent by some dude he owes money too. Something may arise there as well.
First of all ... you guys rock. Especially those people that help bring out the symbolism in the episodes (especially liked the huckleberry explanations from the Skank-ATM Ep).
Anyways... my theory on the distributor guy... none other than TED... Skyler's boss. Id give it... 5:1 odds... any takers?
If not him... what are the chances that we actually have already been introduced to the guy Saul is trying to set up White/Pinkman with ? I say 3:2
Skyler's sure showing those hot gams and a nice bit of cleav for the bossman! Maybe I'm wrong and she's gonna end up playing hide the sausage anyhow?
Did they really need to show Jane with a popsicle?
Some reason I found this episode boring. Its like nothing happened, now I gotta wait another 7 days
:(
Wow!!! I never realized all of these "hidden" meanings before...Wow....Craziness!!!
Kilz 2 = Good Call
First of all ... you guys rock. Especially those people that help bring out the symbolism in the episodes (especially liked the huckleberry explanations from the Skank-ATM Ep).
Anyways... my theory on the distributor guy... none other than TED... Skyler's boss. Id give it... 5:1 odds... any takers?
If not him... what are the chances that we actually have already been introduced to the guy Saul is trying to set up White/Pinkman with ? I say 3:2
I never trusted Hank from the beginning. There's something dark behind him. I've felt this for awhile now. He's into something dirty for sure.....
I liked it when the new villains were introduced sitting in a low rent office with a bowie knife stuck in the desk, or training their fighting dogs in the living room. Call me old fashioned
Yeah i agree with ted being part of the money laundering... skylar is onto problems with his papertrails and accounts... which leads saul and ted to be covering walts cash flow. In the end i figure everyone will be involved in the business in some way or another. With Hank's wifes thievery and all, it could come to Hank asking to get a cut when he finds out what walts up to, or using the dea to take out his competitors.
hisenbaker, i just think the KILZ was to make the wood odorless or somethin. the ending is on right now again!!!
Jane with the popsicle was totally necessary.
Quote by: By pinkteddybear on May 10, 2009 10:44 PM
3.Has anyone ever actually swam in that damn pool?
4.Hank is an asshole, Walt was totally in the right in that tequila shot scenario.
First of all: Very cute profile name! =)
Second: So far, all's I've seen are those little whirlygig water bugs...LOL ;)
Third: IMO, I thought it was cool of Hank, to look out, for the best interest of his nephew.
Fourth: Yeppers...I kept waiting for Walt to blow the house up, too!
oh man Kilz 2 thats crazy, and i doubt we know this business guy. It doesn't seem like a thing breaking bad writers have done or will do, but if we do know this business guy, i will be delighted and surprised.
Dizzizzle - He could have set down two cans of Bullseye, but it was KILZ.
I think those opening scenes are foreshawdowing too. Poss the finnally is they all somehow die, idk. Anyway does anybody know wha the name of the song is in the final scene where walts being a compleate bad ass and telling the fucked up dude to not sell in his territory? Thanks, cant wait for next weeks episode.
I think someone important is going to give them that teddy bear in the next episode and we are all going to gasp. (i can hope)
Kilz is a like a primer you apply to things before you paint them. It can help when you have mold affected surfaces, probably like what Walt has on the flooring that was leaked on under that junk water heater.
Maybe the teddy bear is in the crib with the new baby. It Makes sense unfortunately
it was dlz by tv on the radio brian and it's not jesse or walt, that much i know. They are slotted for a 3rd season, this show is not even close to being over, i'd be surprised if one of those body bags included a main character, the only way it could be jesse or walt is if this climatic scene that has been foreshadowed all scene doesn't happen this season.
hisenbaker- you may be on to something...possibly
The Kilz was a symbol. Has nothing to do w/ "rot" lol...It is a primer ; )
THANK YOU for this show AMC
I've never seen anything like this before, so well done,
perfect casting, incredible acting, story line, everything.
I could go on forever! Huge Fan
This show is so awesome! I agree!
The KILZ doesn't mean much except as a joke I think. It can be hard to tell the difference sometimes in this show however.
Damn! You guys have such short attention spans!!!
A boring episode? I think not.
Another brilliant episode, as usual.
If they gave you constant action all the time, you would get bored of that too, and say that they were "jumping the shark", as it were. The writers and producers have very carefully constructed this show so that it ebbs and flows with the building of tension and then the release of that tension in an explosion,... hence the ending of this episode.
It's perfect storytelling... I have never seen anything like it on TV, except the Sopranos, and even that was not as well thought out as this.
All of the symbolism and allusions just add to the brilliance.
AND HOW ABOUT THAT ENDING !!!! Best one yet!
Absolutely incredible. It was the perfect song for the perfect moment. Quite impressive.
Great job as always. They are writing the best show on television. Can't wait until next week !!
Oh... and I think Walt might start storing explosive material under the house to use for meth production. That might cause the explosion.
Walt has become Heisenberg.
Those of you, whom are mentioning that something is'nt quite right going on, behind the scenes, with Hank:
As much as I love the "Big Lug"...there's quite a few hints, he's not on the up-&-up, huh?
They've shown, the liberties he takes, being in the upper ranks.
Remember, when he broke out the Cuban cigars?
And, how he just snickered, when he thought Walt was buying pot?
Ol' Hanky-panky...when are we gonna find out more about, what you're doing on the side?!? LMAO!!
I tried to entice a skeptical friend to watch this show, and every way I tried to describe it made it sound ridiculous, depressing, uneccesarily violent, and gratuitously sleazy. All of which are perfeclty accurate. How could a meth lab operator with advanced cancer be funny in any way?
What up to my BB Peeps! There are a lot of you chiming in tonight. I love to see that. I noticed that you all have already started talking about the KILZ, which was a "not so subtle" undertone of the show. We all loved it, though.
For all of you who like the music on the show there is a link on the main page where you can look up all the music for BB and other stuff on AMC.
Some of you really seemed bummed about the episode. The beginning and the end were praiseworthy, but I can see your point where the middle lagged. Overall, it was another stellar performance. Aaron Paul really drenches us inside Jesse's pain. Brian Cranston is no doubt making us believe in the whole Jekyll/Hyde thing. "I don't know who that was."
Thanks for correcting the "turf" comments. "Stay out of my territory." You believed him at that point.
I have some insights, but I'll share them tomorrow.
diksee- I'm a dad and an uncle. Walt wasn't exactly right, but Hank was definitley wrong. "MY son, MY bottle, MY house".....his damn "I just found out I'm not gonna die of cancer" party. (where he had just had to endure watching his wife give gretchen & Elliot all the credit to.) Screw that holier than thou DEA moron. 3 Tequila shots isn't nearly as harmful as a visit to Wendy at the Crystal Palace!
anybody know the song at the end of the episode?
Wow, Is it me or were there more than a few Awkward moments this episode. Hank, I'd like you to meet Mr. Heisenberg - AKA: Walter White. That was an Intense scene between those two. How does Walt go about explaining that one to Hank later or does he bother to? It does look like Walter is cutting Jesse loose. Jesse is just too much of a liability/risk now for Walt, I mean Heisenberg. Jesse not having any Parental guidance (Walt), reverts back to his previous practices of getting loaded. I think Jane will also eventually kick Jesse to the curb. She has Jesse sorted out and it wont be long before he is hitting the skids. Skyler is going to use her Boss as a crutch, maybe more? Interesting episode, not as fun as the last one, episode 9, but hey the story continues to evolve.
Kilz is a primer... after repairing water damaged wood... you'd want to primer/seal it to prevent it from happening again... right?
Slow episode but the ending got me excited for next week. Can't wait.
This is my first comment here. Does anyone else here think Hank may be more than just a D.E.A. agent?
By neozaknafein on May 10, 2009 11:46 PM
anybody know the song at the end of the episode?
I'll let you know...
JUST AS SOON AS I GET TO WATCH THE SHOW!!!
(it starts in 5 min.)
Also.. I predict that the *distributor* either be Skyler's boss or Jane's dad. Either of those two have a high probability of having some extra income on the side. Ted's financial records seem to be out of whack and Jane's dad is a hard ass and we are constantly told that.... so... They have my bet, but we'll see.
thanks
By mrwhite on May 10, 2009 11:54 PM
This is my first comment here. Does anyone else here think Hank may be more than just a D.E.A. agent?
No. Hank is just a fuckin cop. Period.
(Can ya tell I have a problem with 'authority figures'?)
thanks
I hate Jesse for being a puss (is that a bad word?). But it gives him depth, it makes him vulnerable,and most everyone can relate to disapointment with the opposite sex. Isn't it sickening how people can forget a ton of hurt so easily by a simple gesture? "Apology Girl" ? More like,"Spine Eating Woman",or "Confidence Crushing Chick". I don't like seeing Jesse getting hurt, but I love the story line. As a matter of fact I love Jane, hate that she's gonna screw with Jesse. A mention of Kristyn Ritter, I love her too esp. since seeing her on Chesley lately.
Ever have to say jinx to the TV? I swear at the same time Skyler does, I yell out, "When are you going to work !?"
I just realized maybe Walt was being a "blow fish" with Hank? As Hank isn't stupid, Walt has to be aware of the possiblity that Hank could be looking at him as Heisenberg.
And finally , never has a TV show, ever, sucked me in, all for the build up of one great line,"Stay out of my territory". All the pain I felt for Walt the last 30 seconds of last week's show went right out the window for me.
Many might not call this episode their favorite or the best, but it was very necessary, and left you wanting more.
One more note, one of the bagged pieces of evidence being bagged up is crayons? And it looks like Walt's car with the front window broken and body bags are lying next to it.
Ok - these intros are going to make seance one day.With all the 'evidence collection' by the pool; but not yet. I think it will kick us all in the ass one day. And not in the obvious way that weer think it will.
pinkteddybear: Take 'er easy...was just having fun, commenting back to your previous post! =\ My bad!
As far as the scene with Wendy, I don't remember Hank taking Walt Jr. there to "hook-up with the hooker." ha ha! =)
340- I was thinking Jane's dad is the low profile distributor guy also. Didn't even think about boss Ted until reading the blogs. My money's on Jane's dad because 1.That akward introduction between Jesse & he. and 2.Skylar is going to hookup with Ted, possibly while still even Pregnant, they've already got plenty of storyline on that Character.
Why even introduce Jane's dad if he doesn't end up putting some crazy twist in the plot of this totally insane show??
Wow that was a great show. Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride...
Walter has passed over to the dark side (Dr Hyde). Did anyone see his doppleganger at the hardware store??? I think he's going to stage his own death, that's the only way to go big and protect his family. He's a terrible father and husband anyways, both Walt Jr and Skylar are finding substitutes for him (Hank and the boss). Some clues - the paint can Kils in the closeup says 'white tinted'.
This is my first post, and I'm so obsessed about this show like the rest of you!!!
It's all good diksee, I didn't mean to come off like a prick.
Anyone else notice all the references to southwestern cuisine this episode? Weird.
-pinkteddybear "Why even introduce Jane's dad if he doesn't end up putting some crazy twist in the plot of this totally insane show??"
There are other roles he could play and still be important to the story, but what you are saying does make the most sense...
The two body bags... the pink teddy bear... perhaps the teddy bear is a symbol for Pinkman and/or he is one of the dead people. The creators wanted to kill him in Season 1 remember, perhaps they decided 2 seasons of Jesse is enough? I sure hope not. Thats a stretch for foreshadowing but others were talking about how important colors was for this show in another thread.
So - what was up with Walt, Hank & Walt Jr. (Flynn) by the pool? [with the tequila!] Seroiusly, I'm asking.
pinkteddybear- Huevos Rancheroa and churros and margaritas. They are in Albuquerque NM. I have heard them mention tacos and chili powder in previous epiodes.
WOW you guys are great! This is my first post since I found out about this thread and I had to jump in on this one.
I love how everyone has great observations pointing out stuff I never notice!
This show is the greatest! Honestly I hate regular t.v. shows and all this STUPID reality crap out there now, everything out is stupid! But this show has me addicted worse than the people who are addicted to meth in the show! I really enjoy the series and hate that every show brings us closer to an end but I also love watching the new episodes and go nuts waiting for the next one!
The reason I wanted to jump into this convo is that I am amazed that no one see whats going on in the scene where Walt, Walt jr and Hank are drinking. At least this is what I see. I may be wrong but if you watch it you see how much Walt jr is into Hank and his job, even the body language Walt jr has (totally turned away from Walt) it seems Walt jr looks up to Hank more than boring chemistry teacher Walt, and you can see it in Walts eyes when his son is talking to Hank and giving no attention to Walt even though this party is for Walt! His son always does this when Hank is around. I think Walt really wants his son to look up to him instead of Hank. I believe he got really mad at both and just wanted to keep drinking to shut them both up, or maybe try to look "cooler" to his soon. I bet he wishes he could tell his son what he's been through. When I see that scene and Walt looks so pissed, especially in his eyes (btw super extra great acting), at whats going on in front of him with Walt Jr and Hank. I think the alcohol really brought out Walt's real emotions!
Keep up the good observations guys!...oh and ladies! =D
Sorry for the off topic question, but does anyone remember exactly how Jesse found out about the duplex after his parents kicked him out of "his" house? Was it an ad in a newspaper? Did someone tell him about the condo? Can't remember. New to the board, just started watching about a month ago. Incredible how much better this show is than anything else on T.V. IMO, there are a lot of T.V. writers stealing paychecks. Thanks, if you can help.
Oh and I cant believe I forgot to mention how jealous of Jesse I am for getting to be with Jane, even though she messes with him. She is so gorgeous and the last episode of her in her panties was great! Thanks AMC! =P
BTW Skylar is a whore! I hate her now! First smoking while pregnant and now a possible affair! ughhh she upsets me so much!
Not a prob, pinkteddybear! =)
Walt said he made his apologies to Hank, but we never saw that. Can't wait to see Hank again.
340- Jesse makes the show. He's like Christopher in the Sopranos, the idiot criminal comic relief that you can't get rid of untill the end (or close to it at least). Furthermore, I bet those aren't even bodies in those bags, it's just them messing with us to keep us all sucked in. I literally live across the street from the Louisville, KY city morgue and I've never seen a white body bag. Could that whole scene even just be a dream or something? I dunno, can't wait to find out. I'm calling Bobby Ewing in the shower on that one. The Pink bear is in the Twaughthammer video though, perhaps a present to Hisenberg's daughter from "nephew" badger???
BBisAWESOME
that scene at the pool Walt seemed to morph into Bad Walt - in front of his family and friends. He sees Hank as a braggart, and weak, and Walt Jr and Hank have a special bond that Walt is jealous of. It was scary and thrilling to watch his 'inner' sociopath come out in that scene. He sees Hank as only the enemy now, classic comic book good guy/bad guy. Hank's the goodguy.
We're in for a major change (I think!) in the next few episodes. I can't think who the other body would be if he did stage his death - there were two body bags. Any ideas, great thinkers out there??
Here's a link to the music in the episodes.
http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/2008/01/music-from-brea.php
Although they haven't updated it for episode 10 yet. I want to know the name of the song that Jesse is listening to in his car after he leaves his house upset. Anyone know it?
Also Walt at the end is in line and realizes WTF, someone is trying to cook in my town! HELL NO!! So he rushes outside and luckily finds the dude and let's them know what's up! The ending was great! I love watching Walt become more of a BADASS each episode!
Slow? Boring? Try simmering.
This is my first time on the board, but this episode was so rich I just had to discuss it.
I think that Walt's "over" speech expressed what he thinks he is supposed to do, as with out his impending death he loses his moral justification. But the tone of this speech, the resignation, demonstrated that he didn't really want to quit. The last scene, which was brilliant by the way, certainly confirms that it will not be over. He IS Heisenberg.
Regarding the identity of their new distributor, judging by the Wikipedia episode list, I believe the name of the character will be Donald. This seems to exclude Ted, but leaves Jane's dad a possibility (although I think he will return as part of Jesse's storyline, I think the distributor will be a new character.)
Bill:
Jane's dad introduces himself to Jesse as "Donald" so if what your reading on Wikipedia is correct, then you may have just solved the mystery.
See ya all tomorrow .... it might all make seance then.
If I can ever figure out how to spell "seance" it will be a good day!
bill_the_historian - I'm pretty sure nobody ever said "over". Walt said he was "DONE". I think "over" referred to his exposistion of the Heisenberg side of his personality to Hank.
I watched the kilz scene again and the camera specifically zooms up on the label, definetly foreshadowing.
it actually zooms in on kilz a view times and could over mean that walt's shread of "walt the family man" or the "normalicy" is over and he is officially heisenberg.
Kilz2 was nothing but product placement. It's like seeing a Pepsi can in Back to the Future or hearing about Twinkies in Die Hard. Plus it just works. How many people have Walt & Jesse killed? 2.
what is Jesse saying in the preview AMC runs after the show? Mr. White says ,"things have changed." Jesse says....?
-Blue Runner
I think Jesse says "We have a cartel now" or at least that is what I thought I heard.
yeah i watched the twaughthammer video to see the pink teddie bear lol, you guys notice everything.
thanks Mr. White.
Oh!! watching again and I'm hating Jesse even more for letting his guard down with Jane! At least Jane knows what her super power should be!
Some nice little nonverbal moments throughout this episode that really spoke volumes (the actors in this show are so great at it!).
First, found it amusing and insightful that the opening music at Walt's party was Wang Chung's Dance Hall Days from the soundtrack of To Live and Die in L.A.. The film is about a secret service/treasury agent (William Petersen) on the trail of a counterfeiter (Willem Dafoe) who killed his partner, and will do ANYTHING to catch the guy, and basically goes "bad" to do it. Fitting music and reference. Great movie, great music. And the best chase sequence in film (I think) - backwards on the LA freeway.
The whole Walt-Walt Jr-Hank scene was superb. Walt competing with Hank for his son's worship, but also contaminating his son. When Hank was telling the whole El Paso story to Junior and asking Walt for a word, the way Walt tilted his head and the slight smirk on his face was - "would the word be bullshit"?. It was sad the way Walt couldn't even finish his apology to his son later because he knew he had violated his innocence. When Junior says "But I kept up, right? You and Uncle Hank, I drank three.", Walt looks sickened, and like he wants to cry.
Jane seems very fearful and jumpy around her dad. I'd say she'd cares for Jesse in her own way, but dad must be pretty scary for her to cut Jesse off the way she did. The dad has to be a criminal type of some sort. Don't think that relationship is destined for long. She plays the tough chick role with Jesse, but I think she wants to hide the fact that she's afraid of her dad from Jesse or anyone.
I'm not sure if I believe in the reality of the pink bear/pool scene/body bags as an actual event. I finally just noticed that those scenes are shot only in black and white with the pink bear in color. It reminds me of that girl in the red coat in Schindler's List, so I'm not sure what the significance of black and white means. Documentary feel? Signifies waaay off in the future, like the end of the series? A dream sequence or imaginings? What doesn't compute is the stuff scattered around/in the pool in the back, and Walt's car in the driveway with all the windows shattered, yet the front view of the house shows it pretty intact. I don't know if I believe this is a real scene anymore as much as someone's nightmare.
Walt/Heisenberg declared their motive and intent with that last line in the episode. If that wasn't a definitive statement - I am Heisenberg. This is my business - stay out of my way, I don't know what else would do it. Heisenberg is in, and he's running the show.
To Live And Die In LA loved that movie. everytime I hear that song (it's played on the PA at work sometimes) I say out loud "To Live And Die In LA!". And this one guy always ruins it by saying no Michelle and Romy's High school reunion. And yes that guy does go bad in a big way too.
anyone noticed how much Walt seemed to like running around the house dressed in his "meth making clothes and resperator"
Song at the end sounds like it was made for the show
I think what is "Over" in this episode is Walt White as the dominant side of Walt's personality and soul. Heisenberg has won out.
I love that movie, and William Petersen is hot, and goes very, very bad at the end. One of my favorite soundtracks, particularly the song "To Live and Die in L.A.". The end song on tonight's episode was great, too.
Walt is putting his house in order, literally. But then he puts down the cans of paint, it's "Over", he walks out as Heisenberg, he LIKES it, and he OWNS it.
Other small observations:
Buying the waterheater with blood money. Wasn't that money from the "Skank" ATM that Jesse brought back and gave to Walt? Will use of this money come back to trap Walt somehow?
Is Jesse P-Whipped by Jane or what? Damn Dude. He's acting like a teenager. And even he knows it: he tells her that the drawings were from when he was a kid - 4 years ago! The preview with Jane telling him "like, you're a drug dealer". Doesn't bode well for a P-Whipped Jesse, but will likely do wonders for the storyline!
Sorry, but I don't think that was Jane's father at all. I'm starting to think a couple things:
Jesse has been on the DEA's radar since before he and Walt started working together.
Duplex is wired, maybe the reason Jesse's T.V./satellite wouldn't work. There may be some kind of surveillance over the building.
Jane supposedly had a drug problem in the past, right? I think her "father" might be a DEA agent supervising her as she cooperates by getting close to Jesse. This would explain why she wouldn't want "Donald" to know about any relationship between her and Jesse, as that might compromise the DEA's operations. They would want her to watch his actions from afar and report what she sees or finds out, but they wouldn't want her to get so close that she would be sleeping with him.
Trying to transfer Hank may be because of his relationship with Walt, if they are on to Walt by now at all.
Walt and Hank may become "amigos" after this blow up with the alcohol. If they form a close friendship, there may be a time when Walt possibly confesses to Hank everything that's going on, Or a time when Hank confronts Walt about the fact that the DEA is on to him. Would Hank interfere with a case to protect Walt from getting busted? I can see a time when Walt confesses everything to Hank, especially the reasons why he was doing the things he was doing, if he was ever confronted by Hank.
Is it crazy to think that the DEA would wait to let a drug ring grow before taking it down to amass more people?
Is Saul the lawyer working with the DEA since Badger got busted? Did Badger actually sing like a bird to save his own ass? Was the fake Heisenberg actually a pawn in the whole thing, actually working with the DEA as well?
Yeah, your right, maybe I am crazy
This is the ONLY program I watch on TV. I LOVE THIS SHOW.
Hank is just a regular cop. They are trying to show the public how human most cops are, he suffers from shell shock from his work, his wife has clepto problems - that he asks us to overlook as a phyciatric disorder, he is loud and boisterous to compensate for the fact that he is falling apart inside from the stress of his job. He loves his family to a fault and is willing to do whatever it takes to DO THE RIGHT THING, even when it hurts.
He overlooks things like Walt giving his son a drink, as a coming of age - manhood thing, the second he is not really okay with- but it's not his son, bottle, or house, and the third he puts on his shield and goes to work. To protect Walt, his son, and himself from implication to contributing to a minor. He even goes so far as to try to diffuse the situation when confronted by Walt - who is asserting himself finally.
A delicate situation between the 2 men who obviously need each other in a brotherly sense. Walt has observed Hank in his "go to work" or "I mean buisness" mode and even mimics his behavior in the last episode with the territory breachers and with Hank himself. Walt has also seen Hank at his worst, in a way that he cannot face the world again, and it's Walt who reminds him to have courage and put on his hero face again. A hero is only a coward that acts on his fear instead of cowering in his fear waiting for it to overcome him.
Walt really is jealous of his son's obvious idolization of Uncle Hank, a few drinks under his belt allows that green monster to rear it's ugly head, rather than the normal lay down- doormat kind of guy he is when sober. Hank isn't trying to take his son away and Walt knows deep down that his son respects him.
Unfortunatly, now Hank has seen that Walt is capable of standing up and that makes him a suspicious character for future episodes, like...why did he have 2 cell phones?
The real question is, will Hank look the other way when he finds out what Walt is doing, and he will. Will Hank try to get him out of harms way like he does for his clepto wife? Or will he throw the book at him and look down on him in disgust? He did hunt him down when he was missing. That is a real emotional investment in someone. And Walt was responsible for, took part in, led Hank to, ridding the world of several drug ring people, Hmmm... could end up as a colaboration since he is on the inside of the ring now? Undercover so to speak.
The body bags, yes that was the first question in my mind at the end of the episode, So what about the body bags?!
I did see the pink bear and the crayons, I also saw WALT'S GLASSES and Walt's car windshild and it was Walt's front yard the bags were laying in. Very frustrating.... can't wait for next week's episode.
Boring?? What were you watching?
Walt has always been a little envious of the way Hank is able to captivate Jr. with his war stories delivered in true "cowboy cop" fashion. Mix some tequila with a Walt who has been reflecting on his adventures and it's not surprising that he snaps. He doesn't give the tequila to Jr. because he wants him to drink it, he gives it to him because it makes him cooler than Hank at the moment. Walt and the tequila get pissed when Hank tries to take his "coolness" away. Walt has some badass in him. We've seen it before but he's always kept it under wraps....mix in some alcohol, presto chango, instant asshole.
As for the explosion, I too am starting to think it may be a dream sequence just by the way it's been showed to us. Totally different style than we've seen before. It's just a hunch, I'm not saying that it won't happen. If it does, I don't think the bodies will be anybody central to the show up to now.
Jane's dad as the new guy in the operation? Hmm, maybe, but it seems that a guy who's been in the business for 20 years would set his little girl up in nicer digs than the duplex.
Speaking of Jane, nice the way she walzed into Jesse's place like nothing was up. "Me and you, what is that?" She's playing him. How female like of her. I still say she's hot, but Jesse would be best to distance himself from her.
As always, the plot thickens. Keep up the good work AMC people.
Yeah! I think Jane'd Dad is the one who get's them all busted. He finds out about Jesse and what he is doing and then he just roots out the rest and lays it out for the DEA. I have to agree with someone above though. He is a strong actor for a cameo. I think he is going to be around for a while.
I took a good look at the body bags and I think one was a woman.
The whole thing about the KILLZ is just what it appeared to be on the surface. Finishing his suzie homebuilder job that he started. He always has to do the job all the way, the way you do one thing is the way you do everything. Walt has never just left a loose thread hanging, if he knows about it.
"Maybe I'm wrong and she's gonna end up playing hide the sausage anyhow?"
She did seem to be a bit disappointed in her conversation with Ted that Walt was in remission. She had obviously begun to make plans for life, sans Walt. Regardless, I thought it would be Ted throwing himself at Skyler, not the other way around.
"skylar is onto problems with his papertrails and accounts..."
You caught that, too? I doubt what Skyler found was merely a lack of internal controls. Ted brushed it off pretty quick with that comment about his late father.
"I also saw WALT'S GLASSES and Walt's car windshild and it was Walt's front yard the bags were laying in. Very frustrating.... can't wait for next week's episode."
The way the crime scene photographer was taking pictures of the car gave me the impression there was another body on the front seat.
Walt and Jesse better be careful about slinging around lots of cash. They'll find themselves in the FINCIN database if they're not careful.
First thing I thought (after watching the preview) was: Jane's dad might be the businessman that Saul is talking about.
Just a thought.
By the way: AMC congrats on airing the best show ever. Don't get me wrong, I love The Sopranos and all that.. but this is in a league of it's own. So thanx, yo!
Late at night
there's a knock on my door
She's drunk again
and lookin' to score
Now, I know I should say no, but...
It's kinna hard when she's ready to go...
Sorry to whoever this might offend, but...
Every time I get so much as get a glimpse of Skyler and I thank gawd I'm single. If I had to put up with her I'd probably be in jail.
Thanks for the clarification on why Walt lost it on Hank; he has been jealous of Jr.'s looking to Hank as a father figure for a while.
And I didn't catch that Jane's father was Q from Star Trek - I'll have to watch that again. There is definitely something deeper there. Did you see how she panicked when her dad was at the door! She's an adult, why get so freaked out? I'm looking forward to seeing that story flesh out.
I don't think the distributor is Sylker's boss, he doesn't impress me as being that intelligent, but maybe I'm wrong. He seems like the type that got where he is because of his dad giving it to him.
When I saw the Kilz, all I though was, "that stuff stinks to high heaven, that will do a number of Walt's lungs!" Loved it when he was walking around the house in his meth-lab garb while doing the home improvements.
the was the best first minute of a show i've ever seen! my guesses as to who's in the bodybags:
1. marie & skylar: however, skylar's car wasn't in the driveway so she may not have been home
2. gretchen & her husband
3. walt jr. & louis: i didn't see jr.'s crutches but on BB anything's possible
4. walt & jesse: maybe they will fake their deaths
5. saul & ??: if he know where walt works, he knows where he lives. he may have brought cartel problems to walt's front door
6. hank & gomez: work carried over to home
Hank, Walt & "Flynn" by the pool. Hank takes the liberty of deciding that it's OK for Flynn to try a shot. That's where I as a parent would flip out. Walt:"My bottle, MY Kid, MY HOUSE!!!" If it were me, I'd a shoved Hank onto the pool.
Ok -- what a great Beginning and Ending.
WE start with Walt telling Jess abot his cancer getting better -- and so he might be getting out of the business.
Then, in the end, he takes a stand & tells those guys at the parking lot of the store, "You're in my territory".
It's game on. And Saul on the preview?!?
As ZZ Top would say: "We're nationwide"
Interesting how the confrontation between Walt and Hank took place at a party, definite reference to the first episode in which Walt was powerless to tell Hank to not let Walt Jr. Play with a gun. He didn't have the guts to say "my son, my house" to him then, but now in his "new" self he does.
Walt is in Skyler's doghouse again
The beginning may have been the most interesting part of the episode, I'm really curious to see what the whole thing is about, and will be very disappointing if they answer nothing in the finale.
I also like the meeting between Walt and Jesse, interesting contrast of excitement levels. Walt saying he is "done" was big too.
We finally found out how old Jesse is.........21-22 I'm guessing.I'm really liking his relationship with Jane, they both have a lot in common. I also noticed his apartment is getting more and more furnished and decorated the more they are getting involved with each other. I can't say it enough, I'm really really starting to love Jesse, he is probably my favorite character now.
Please people...don't turn into Trekkies with your posts here (dissecting every fraction of everything said and done). This is a TV show...albeit an excellent one.
The latest episode was kinda boring and I was disappointed by the "cheap shot" opening scene.
Q. Why do so many here in these comments think that Walts House gets Blown up? I have seen no evidence of this. During the intro you do not see any debris from an explosion. When the evidence is layed out by the pool, the area is picture perfect, same with the front of the house 7 driveway. I know he has changed out the Bad water heater and Walt is not a professional plumber, but one thing that Walt is, is Detail oriented and he does not leave things to chance. So I doubt Walt missed any steps during the Installation of said water heater. There might be some sort of accident, but I see no evidence of an explosion, then again that does not explain the burnt/ scorched Pink Teddy Bear. Was that Teddy Bear in their Baby Nursery? I did'nt see it in their House, maybe it is and we just did'nt see it? Was it at the Baby shower as a Gift?
Unforgiven, Nationwide is where Walt/ Heisenberg wants to go. That is one Bad ass song from that Little Ol' Band from Texas. They ought work some their songs into the show, like "Just got paid today"...
This is my first time on this blog - but I have to mention a thought that came to me when the Doctort said Walt's tumor had shrunk by 80% - what if it is because of all the stuff he has been exposed to while cooking? Even with safety gear that stuff would be lethal enough to kill a tumor -
I love this show - can't wait for it every week.
Very complex characters -
Skylar is a slut!!! And she has no class -
R.W.> May I direct your attention to my Talk Topic: What's up with the fuzzy pink monster: REDUX?
I agree that the whole house isn't getting blown up. The only real "debris" is the burned stuffed animal and it's only partially burned. But let's discuss it elsewhere, shall we?
DRKellog - Gotcha, complied with, in accordance with.
I think the body bags are either the cartel or the rival guys from the home store. Walt doesn't mess around. I think fortunately, when somebody comes to get Walt, they will be got first. Maybe Hank is onto Walt and saves his life by popping out and shooting those two scumbags from the home store.
All we know is that something happens at their house where two people are killed and Walt's car is shot up. How did the pink bunny thing get from Jesse's garage to Walt's house? Why do they keep showing it? I was thinking maybe Jesse gives the gift to Walt for the baby since he had nothing else to give and realizes that he should give a gift. I am pretty sure that toy is from Jesse. Perhaps he had it as a kid.
I highly doubt any of the main characters will be killed off. Especially not Hank, Skyler, and certainly not Walt or Jesse.
I mean, if for some reason that is Skyler (with baby) and Walt Jr., then the next season is going to be a totally different show of an evil Walt on a killing spree getting revenge. How long can that go on? Not too many shows.
That whole opening sequence is getting creepier with each showing with a little bit more being shown.
I don't even know what to say about this episode. I am fairly certain that Skyler telling the whole group at the party about how thankful they are for Gretchen and Elliot who couldn't be there and giving them credit for the $$$ is what set Walt off. You could just tell he was not comfortable with it and then what he said following it. I doubt it was any one thing that Hank said but Hank playing buddy buddy with Walt Jr probably has been festering inside Walt and contributed to it very much so. It was just the breaking point to how Walt was feeling that day. He just blew up.
Then the water heater thing and the "rot." I just don't know what to make of it all. I can't wait to watch the episode again today at least one more time.
In watching the show last night I was wondering about Walt going outside the Home Depot to confront the other meth cooks. What was going through that guys mind?
he was much bigger and stronger than Walt. But in sizing Walt up he saw a Middle Aged Bald Guy standing right up to him. My first thought was that maybe he thought Walt was part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Why else would some geeky white dude with glasses to boot tell him to stay away from his territory regarding meth unless he was connected.
I think the last three episodes are gonna go out with a bang.
In watching the show last night I was wondering about Walt going outside the Home Depot to confront the other meth cooks. What was going through that guys mind?
he was much bigger and stronger than Walt. But in sizing Walt up he saw a Middle Aged Bald Guy standing right up to him. My first thought was that maybe he thought Walt was part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Why else would some geeky white dude with glasses to boot tell him to stay away from his territory regarding meth unless he was connected.
I think the last three episodes are gonna go out with a bang.
Not my favorite episode of the season....but like the saying goes. It's like sex and pizza, even when it's bad it's still pretty damn good. I thought is was quite telling that Walt chose to shave his head at the beginning of the show even though he's in remission and his hair is growing back. He still wants to be Heisenburgh. He still wants that bad-ass persona. Plus he's getting bored. Why else would he tear up the house like that? He's used to this action packed life now.
Seemed weird to me but it looked like the degenerates at the home depot were trying to inpersonate heisenberg. Maybe they heard about the "fake" heisenberg getting caught. They must have known that heisenberg was a bald fella, otherwise walts comment to end the show wouldnt have made any sense. The episode of posibilities...
I'm still in aww about the "stay out of my territory" comment. It seems like Walt has made the decision to do drug making full time. The music really set it off (by the way, for those who missed it, the song is called "DLZ" by a group called "TV on the Radio"). This show is so good.
RCH-ROFL about "geeky white dude with glasses!" XD
That opening scene...damn! Who could the dead bodies be in the driveway? It looked to me like the body on the right may have been a woman, because it looked like the shape of breasts under the sheet (I thought they were sheets, not bodybags?). Not that I was intentionally looking for breasts, but I watched the opening scene all three times they showed it on AMC last night and I couldn't help but notice. How ironic (and very tragic) would it be if it were Skyler and Walt Jr. in the driveway? Think about it: Walter got into the meth business so that his family could get by after he dies, but now it turns out that he's going to live, and his family dies because of him getting into the meth business. I hope that's not the case at all. It would be so bad if they were killed.
I loved the father-son scenes between Walt and Walt Jr. when they were trying out the new faucet. Here's what I got from the scene where Walter was giving tequila to Walter Jr: Walter was intentionally trying to make Jr. sick with the tequila so that he would never want to try drinking again. It's a classic thing that parents do, like when they make their child smoke cigarettes until they get sick so they never want to do it again. There were definitely other reasons why he did it, but I think that was one of the main reasons, especially when Walter showed his disappointment later when Walt Jr. told him "I kept up with you and Uncle Hank, I drank three". That showed that Jr. didn't learn the point that Walt was trying to teach him. Maybe I'm wrong about that though.
I absolutely love the music on this show. That song at the end was pure genius, and hearing "Dance Hall Days" at the party reminded me of Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, lol. If anyone else here plays that game, you'll know that song is all over it. :)
I think the most telling line of the episode was when Walter told Walt Jr. that he was going to "tear everything down and start fresh". An obvious metaphor for his life, wanting to get out of the meth business. But then in the hardware store, when he was holding the Kilz cans (good or bad publicity for that name brand? LOL!), it was clear that he still wants to be Heisenberg even though he's going to live. I called it last week when I said that Walt enjoys feeling like he's in control of something, and Heisenberg gives him that feeling more than anything else. When he saw all the meth ingredients in that guy's shopping cart, he realized two things: One is that he is much smarter than the average meth cooker ("Don't buy everything in one place"), and the other is that he doesn't want other people making meth money in his "territory" when he is able to create a vastly superior product. In the end, Heisenberg won out, and now the old Walter is officially "Over"! Great episode!
Is Walt using his own product????????
I know what you mean Ona Lee......it sure looked like Walt was "tweakin'" the way he was tearing up the house for hours on end. I think he's too smart for all that though. Who knows though....the road he's traveling down is a dangerous one with many detours.
This ep had more symbolism than I can talk about right now. Will get to some of my thoughts later. But symbolism I did like in this ep. Walt's money having actual blood on it. Those stains ain't coming out as easily as you'd like Walt.
Jane's DAD? Sugar DADdy
"Think about it: Walter got into the meth business so that his family could get by after he dies, but now it turns out that he's going to live, and his family dies because of him getting into the meth business."
I don't think this scenario is too far-fetched. I've made similar observations about Walt losing his family. It would be the ultimate twisted irony.
This is the most addictive television show I've ever seen.
One impulse of Walt's that he can't seem to control is his teacher/instructor side. In the hardware store with that guy, it was the first thing to pop out. LOL. But as we all saw, Heisenberg took over in the end.
As for the body bags, one of them had a huge bump where the belly would be. It was big enough to protrude upward quite a bit, so either a pregnant belly or someone with a big belly in one of those bags. The other bag looked like it had a long body in it. I'd say the two guys from the hardware store followed Walt home from the parking lot. And didn't one of them look kind of bikerish (the short, bald fat guy)?
If Jesse is 22-23, it explains a lot about his maturity level (and why he still seems like a kid to me in so many ways by his reactions). In their restaurant meeting, Walt liked that Jesse cared so much, you could just see it on his face. I think Jesse really is becoming Walt's son. A hint of a lost look crossed Jesse's face when Walt talked about closing the business down. Jesse wants to be with Walt or should I say Dad?
Come of think of it, Walt's initial advice to that guy in the hardware store, and then following him out to the parking lot and threatening both guys was brazen and stupid for a few reasons:
1. He basically broadcasts he knows how to cook meth;
2. Stirs up anger, fear or paranoia in them about their activities;
3. Reveals his identity (face, car) to them;
4. Makes it easy for them to follow him home from the store and nip that problem (Walt) in the bud.
I thought it was kind of odd that the heavyset guy didn't punch Walt out. But they don't know who he was (cop, DEA or what) specificially. What Walt did was extremely reckless - too out in the open in every respect. Another one of Walt's spontaneous actions with possibly severe consequences; this time for his family rather than just himself and Jesse.
Skottey I read your post, and then must have blanked out. I see you covered the two hardware guys as the possible body bag inhabitants - I agree with you.
the opening scene really scared the shit out of mee :|
referring to "jonny Friday" question about that song at the end..it def caught my attention..had to find it...its called DLZ by tv on the radio...the whole song is really good alot better then just some of the show had
I'm still confused - why did Walt wanna get his son drunk?
And when Walt Jr. was puking in the pool.. was his dad smirking at him?
Walt was definitely smirking, but my question is why.
What am I missing?
I think walt is building a hidden place under his house to either cook freely in the comfort of his own home,also i think hes angry because he realizes that hes attached to the "heisenberg" persona and can't live it behind like he planned to do after he completed treatment.It would be really interesting if he became the new Tuco,hes abvously not the same walt he was when he started cooking...
where can i get that song "my rims" by chops? can't seem to find it anywhere.. the song that plays when jesse gets in his car after he's mad at jane..
Mitchell Yes, Walt was smirking while Junior was puking in the pool! I was kind of shocked by that too. I not sure if it was about his son or that he'd won against Hank by standing up to him.
Did you notice Walt didn't make a move to help his son, he just walked back and sat down while Skyler and Hank were both with Junior. It signified a coldness, I thought, about Walt. He seemed more intent on relishing his victory over Hank, I think, but I'm not sure. Either way, he wasn't too concerned about his son.
Mitchell Yes, Walt was smirking while Junior was puking in the pool! I was kind of shocked by that too. I'm not sure if it was about his son or that he'd won against Hank by standing up to him.
Did you notice Walt didn't make a move to help his son, he just walked back and sat down while Skyler and Hank were both with Junior. It signified a coldness, I thought, about Walt. He seemed more intent on relishing his victory over Hank, I think, but I'm not sure. Either way, he wasn't too concerned about his son.
This episode had more to do with a new attitude for Walt. He no longer is cowed by Hank who has probably always bossed him around and was very surprised to see this side of him. Of course he should be hiding his Heisenburg aspect but it looks like he was always a meek kinda guy. What happened with his ex-wife? Did she leave him for his partner and together they made a fortune on his ideas? There is a whole subplot there ...
Also, in the parking lot with the meth guys, he showed them that he meant business and even though he had no weapons he was not afraid in the least. They ran like scared rabbits which goes to show you, when you feel you are in the right (or crazy), the world is a different place.
Skyler makes a disturbing discovery at work and confronts Ted. Jesse divulges his real profession to Jane, and their relationship takes a dangerous turn.
what do you think of that? The dangerous turn makes me this this business guy could be Jane's dad and then the ted thing that makes me thing the same.
I watched some of the video recap about this episode with Bryan Cranston (Walt) and he said that his character wanted to be look like “the cool guy” to his son instead of Hank. Walt is jealous of Walter Jr.’s idolization of his Uncle Hank. It goes too far and he lets his alter-ego ‘Heisenberg” out for the first time at home. It felt good in the moment but he later regrets his actions at the party
I also agree in thinking it was the two bums from the builders supply place in the body bags on Walt's driveway. They probably heard that Heisenberg was caught and arrested, so since nobody's making the blue meth and all the $$$$ anymore, the sky's the limit! But then they run into the real Heisenberg, and they haul ass outta there because they heard the story of one of Heisenberg's boys killing somebody with an ATM - They didn't want to be next, but perhaps after they will re-group they may realize something like "Well, fuck him! We want some of that meth territory too!", and that would be when they find out where he lives, etc.
It looks awfully good that Jane's dad could be the new distributor. Perhaps an ex-biker, that's been in control of distribution for 20 years. That biker that drove by and called to Jesse in that episode could've been told by Daddy to keep an eye on Jane, and when he found out this Jesse Pinkman guy was there on her steps hanging out, he may have thought he'd better get in on scoping this guy. I have a strong feeling Jane's Dad is a really evil man that has an army of bikers working for him that'd kill anybody at the drop of a hat.
I also think somebody in the DEA is in on all this too. Perhaps paid off for "20 Years" to look the other way. Could it be our boy Hank? I don't know, gotta think about that a bit more, but I'm thinking since Gomez is Hank's right hand man he could influence a great deal, so maybe he's the one?
Hey, Did anyone else spot the collection of crayons in the evidence bag in the beginning? Hmmm. I am really going to be pissed if Walt gets Skyler's newborn killed. Also I think one of the moonsuited guys is putting Walt's glasses into another evidence bag. Doesn't look good for Walt, I'm afraid.
I think Walt has gone over the edge. That's what the "over" in the title means. He can no longer fully control his "switching" from one personality to another. Walt is like Jesse and the people he makes meth for: he's an addict. In his case excitement is the drug. He really can't get enough of it and the risky behavior. When he is home convalescing in episode 10, the first thing he does is call Jesse for some action. When Walt was punching the towel dispenser it was like he needed to feel pain since he wasn't being stimulated by risky behavior. At first he was like the scientists who made the atomic bomb: they did it because they were curious if it could be done. Even better, they could show off their brains. Then, only when it was too late, they realized what they had done. Same for Walt. At first, in spite of his excuse about needing money, Walt cooked meth just because he could and he wanted to show to himself what a bad ass he was. Now, he is so full of himself, he wants to be sure everyone else knows he's beyond reach. Walt is becoming a real monster. Jesse needs to bail out or be killed.
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"This is beginning to feel like the dawn of the loser forever." Great line for a song in this episode. All the music was well done, but I think we all agree that the final song was a great note to end on.
"Why me?" Walt really defined his dilemma with that line. He was sickened by the inertia of his quandary. What would we do if we inhabited his world? He ripped out all the cancer that was under his house, but he looked and it was not finished, and neither are his nefarious deeds. What cancer was the parallel? The cancer in his body or the cancer that was in his mind (Heisenberg)?
I thought that we had been digging down deeper and deeper each week, but like an iceberg 80% of the mass is below the surface. We've only touched on the human condition. We haven't seen anything yet. The next three episodes are going to blow our minds as BB fans. I just know it.
What about the homeboy Hank? He keeps his cool even when under strain. We seen that with Tortuga in the desert. He was sickened, but he still tied the guys leg off and kept him from bleeding to death. He's back to being himself, I think. I believe Walt's talk with him really was the catapult he needed to keep him flying.
Jesse is about to have a meltdown. He can't control this girl and she is not right for him. He doesn't know what he needs, but he doesn't need her. James26 pray for him to get rid of her. I know you already are.
Now, what about Saul? He's the catalyst for all the changes that are about to spring to life.
Critique my thoughts; tell me what you think.
bigfreakinnaz said "It looks awfully good that Jane's dad could be the new distributor. Perhaps an ex-biker, that's been in control of distribution for 20 years."
hahahhahaha..... listen to yourself. That guy an ex biker with connections? Jane's Dad looks like the stereotypical rich businessman with very little street smarts. His idea of getting out of a tight situation is buying his way out. I would be very surprised if this guy is as rough as some of you are making him out to possibly be. The Walt we met on S1E1 talking naively to Hank looked like more of a big drug distributor than that guy does. And Walt was a total nerd. Maybe I am just being biased towards this guy because of dorky dads of some of the women I have dated. He is just so stereotypical.
But then again, we have been thrown many loops in this show. Anything can happen. But even if he turns out to be some giant distributor, he is the one throwing the money around and playing boss man, not a rough and tough biker. Does he look like your average tough biker? I don't think so at all.
Kudoos to the person who selected the music for this episode. Actually, all of the music has been fantastic. It sets the mood and enhances the program better than any other show on television.
unclemikey saild "Hey, Did anyone else spot the collection of crayons in the evidence bag in the beginning? Hmmm. I am really going to be pissed if Walt gets Skyler's newborn killed. Also I think one of the moonsuited guys is putting Walt's glasses into another evidence bag. Doesn't look good for Walt, I'm afraid."
umm.... newborns don't play with crayons.
Secondly, just because Walt's glasses are going into evidence does not mean he is one of the dead people in the body bags. Evidence can be anything at a crime scene.
Maybe you haven't heard but the show has been renewed for a third season and Walt is the main character, followed by Jesse as a close second. I highly doubt the body bags are any of the main characters and I am suspecting more and more that it is the two idiots from the home store.
Somebody above mentioned that the money launderer could be Ted, but I really don't think so. He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and got that business when his dad kicked it. Probably knows nothing about running it, and what kind of businessman makes an excuse "I got the flu" when something wrong happened. According to the previews, Skyler finds a huge financial error in his books. He most likely will show his "gratitude" to her, and she'll eat it up. When was the last time Walt showed her any kind of thanks or praise for putting up with him, his disease, and all of the shit that goes along with it, especially after he made an ass out of himself at their get-together?
I do believe that one of the reasons Walt was forcing blasts of Tequila onto Walt Jr. was to somehow say to him "You're Uncle Hank is a big dog, I am now a big dog, and if you're gonna hang with the big dogs, you gotta act like a big dog too, so drink up."
Anybody notice that Skyler didn't freak out on Walt one bit as to where he got the money to go out and buy a new hot water heater, and all those other builders supplies? She has to know all of that stuff ain't cheap. Also, who paid for the PET-CT scan that Walt got when the "good news" came about?
skottey: I personally know a man who 25 years ago was a really mean, nasty, hard-ass biker that got into bar fights every night, had stabbed a couple of people, did all kinds of drugs - you name it. But now, he is a respected man in the community, a powerful businessman, extremely wealthy, and one of the coolest guys you could ever meet with a closet full of Armani suits. You would never know by looking at him now the colored past he once had.
laz-LOL! I'm already praying for Jane to be gone. Don't worry! :)
Guys, I saw a commercial on AMC today for the next episode, and they showed something that they didn't show in the preview last night. Stop reading right now if you don't want the spoiler. AMC is already showing it though, so...SPOILER ALERT:
Combo gets killed!
I think TATOR's onto something. Walt may need some AA meetings for his budding ADRENALIN addiction. If there's any trouble in the birthing room, LOOK OUT, doc.
Gotta say, love seeing Walt's transformation; and I'm glad his split personality comes with comedic ornamentation. The pass through the living room with stuff for the junkpile was hilarious. Halfway wondering if Walt's done gone and sampled his stash..(almost too easy an out for the writers).
Cause everyone knows: "you NEVER get HIGH on your own SUPPLY."
Prediction: Walt's newly built safe/panic room in the crawlspace is wired to blow if unfriendlies come a'tampering.
James26....who's Combo???
Combo is the 3rd of Jesse's dealers. Not badger, not skinny pete, the guy with the mohawk
Thanks : )
I'm still kinda freaked that Jane's dad is Q from Star Trek. bigfreakenaz, I was also expecting SOMETHING from Skyler about the money for the new hot water heater and other building supplies.
Jesse seemed happier than Walt that Walt's cancer was in remission. The most contented expression I noticed on Walt's face the whole episode was when he was looking at the grocery cart full of meth cooking supplies. "Over" had to refer to how Walt is past the point of return and is now Heisenberg. And the built-in commercial for Kilz was marketing genius. We are often forced to see strategically placed products in tv and movies, but I don't remember another product placement that actually fit so completely into a story line. Every time I prime, I will now think about BB.
This episode was far from boring. All of the tension was internal rather than external. I was really touched that Jesse was so hurt after being dissed by Jane. Even though he (at least started out) as a meth head, has anybody noticed that Jesse is pretty neat? (By neat I mean tidy.) He had some clutter at his aunt's house, but is nothing like the crack house where Spooge got his last headache. In one of the behind the scenes videos, Vince Gilligan & crew talk about that house. It was a real crack house that they had to clean up before they could shoot there. Can you imagine? God knows what's crawlin' in there...
SPOLIER ALERT.......
I wonder who kills Combo. That's crazy!
SPOILER ALERT.......
I wonder who kills Combo. That's crazy!
aack, sorry for the typo and double-post.
SPOILER ALERT:
It looks like Combo is talking to some people in a car, and he shows them that he has a gun in his pants. That could be who kills him.
About the body bags and the bullet hole in the windshield of Walt's car: Maybe Walt loaned his car to someone (one of Jesse's dealers, say) and someone who wanted Walt eliminated mistook the driver for Walt when they pulled into Walt's driveway to return the car.
Another possibility - hopefully not true - is that someone who wanted to kill 'Heisenberg' discovered that his name is Walter White, he drives an Aztec, and lives at such and such an address. Walt Jr. gets his licence (or not), borrows the car to go out with the friend he hangs out with, and when he returns home someone comes up to the car and says "Are you Walter White?" "Yes." POW, POW. That would explain why Jr has the same name as his father: to set up a case of mistaken identity. Walt has been through a lot because of his criminal ways, but has so far emerged unscathed. Maybe it's time he paid severely for breaking bad.
I wonder if the incident that leaves debris in the swimming pool is the result of Walt's home renovations.
When Jesse was explaining his superhero creations, he reminded me so much of Hank on Corner Gas!
How do we even know that the body bags are related to Walts activities. It looks like Skylar has discovered some stuff in the accounting dept. Poor Walt, the only respect in life that he gets is from the methheads and other dealers.
Tweeds
How do we even know that the body bags are related to Walts activities. It looks like Skylar has discovered some stuff in the accounting dept. Poor Walt, the only respect in life that he gets is from the methheads and other dealers.
Tweeds
Did anyone think the churros had symbolic significance or sexual innuendo for the Skylar - Ted relationship?
If Hank is dirty, he sure knows how to cover his tracks. If he was, and I don't think so, but if he was, the whole scene in Mexico could have been set-up by him. I mean, is he really that lucky? And maybe he is pretending not to know how to speak Spanish/Mexican. Wouldn't it be funny if he suddenly slipped and spoke fluently? He was having a breakdown or something. Maybe he knew Tuco and knew how to find him and just was waiting for the right moment to take him out.
He could be just a full-of-himself cop, after all, he did get a BJ from a drag queen/cross-dresser the night before he got married, altho he doesn't know it yet and was stone drunk at the time. I wonder if Walt will ever tell him.
Kind of agree with you, laz - don't think Jane is the right gal for Jesse or will be around as a steady. She's too screwed up about the father, who she is very fearful of, and probably for a good reason. He has keys to her place? She was freaked at Jesse's when she realized it was her father at her door. Man, gets all dressed and made up to answer the door?
I don't know if the guy is a drug distributor. I'd say he's muscle or a hitman type, and that's why she says he's a badass. He kills for a living, and Jane is really afraid of him - that's not normal - there's a good reason for her fear, and it ain't I'm afraid Daddy will throw me in rehab" kind of fear.
With a father like that, nope, it isn't going to last with Jesse, and could possibly cost Jesse his life. She's so guarded where Jesse isn't - he needs something less complicated, and more open, sweeter (yeah, what woman is going to want to date a drug dealer except an addict?).
Hey Skottey, I have a niece (sp?) that indeed at two mos was playing w/ crayons, but I digress. You are quite probably right about the bodies. I was pleased to learn elsewhere this am that BB has been renewed. One of the fun things in making a show like this must be being able to mess with time/place as you wish. How long has Skyler been pregnant??!!?? Later.
Dammm! guys this espisode was bad azz "Walter Jr." i think Walt has become a Drug Kingpin and he is always ahead of the law, I think skyler should respect him for risking his life, she is very sneaky, i love this show.peace.
Has anyone covered the symbolism of the rotting wood. Maybe it represents the cancer and Walt is determined to get every bit out of his house.
The old hot water heater was week and just barely got by. The new one is powerful and state of the art. It is the new Walt!
Good catch on the KILZ and blood money.
KILZ could also be like chemo.
typo...weak...
Skinny Pete is listed as appearing in the next episode on the imdb.com so my theory is badger is out (cause he got caught), Combo and Skinny Pete get killed early next episode and thus they have no one left to sell and thats why they have to meet with saul and look so dim.
This is my first post. This show yo? Flippin' phenomenal, yo. Everyone's dialogue, insight, hypothesis, and predictions are cool but basically predictable possible story lines. This show is such an intricately crafted work of art. Think about things you thought were gonna happen on past episodes. The writers are great at taking every circumstance on the show one step farther than u or I are capable of imaging. I guarantee every time you thought you knew, the show took a left turn then a right turn then another turn at an angle that is unimaginable at this rate of speeD.
Speaking of speeD rates, $40,000 apound for some blue hisenburg. Thats about 90 bucks a gram.
Jane is a fed, Her fake dad is a fed. Everyone's a fed thats not Mr. White or Jesse. If you have ever been in the uh production biz you know. Every SUV with tinted windows, every white van with magnetic business decal, anyone at walmart who seems to need some pet fish a can of mapp gas and a grandma get well soon card same day same exact time as you is a fed. And by fed i mean anyone government or not helping build a case against u.
If you guys saw the preview at the end of the episode,
It talks about Walt needing surgery.
"We have a cartel now" as Jesse says
Skinny Pete saying something about "Are you sure your street cred is up for this"
Saul is going to introduce them to some heavy hitters. The NEXT episode (after Mandala) is entitled Phoenix....so you put 2 and 2 together....the blue goodness heads to a bigger market.
Great episode. Those complaining, aren't looking between the lines.
Walt is now Heisenberg.
STAY OUT OF MY TERRITORY.
mikebiff2325 i agree about jane and her DEA agent partner she calls dad. Cause to many small details from every episode are used to build to a later happenstance. The writers on BB haven.t let anything big happen that was justa unexplainable fluke.
So I guess what i'm saying is it would be everything the show is not,Cliche, Cheesy, Disappointing, Predictable, and Pretty Unbelievable if jesse just happened to move in next to some drug lords daughter and skylers olD/new boss was the person washing mr. whites and jesses money.
please someone tell me i am wrong
Hank is probably gonna b the guy who has 20 years experience that Saul is gonna call cause he told mr. white from what he`s heard he's like him
hello walt is going to build a lab under his house and kill his family walt jr skyler and the baby are in the body bags at the start of the last episode just call saul was a slow episode for me but i love it all and am on the edge of my seat poor combo i seen the clip where he got clipped looked like it was his own fault not drug related just showing his a-- i hope they get season 2 on dvd soon
the thing with walt jr was to let him know that he(walt sr ) is cool jr lookes up to his uncle hank so mutch when sr talked to jr in the kitchen he said he kept up with him and uncle hank refering to the shots sr just turned and walked away in discuss thst his son lookes up to uncle hank dea agent but does not look up to dad that pisses walt sr off he knows the real hank walt sr probably want to tell his boy what he is now to see his reaction or in hope he will look up to him as a father
Oh, please don't kill off Walt Jr. to make Walt pay a price for his sins. I know the writers are more clever than that. Walt and his conversations with his son are some of the best moments of humanity in the show. It's their relationship that transcends all the evil Walt is doing and it's the purest relationship, most fun too! Besides, the heart of at least one teen girl I know is going to break if you don't keep Walt Jr. a big (bigger) part of Walt's life and the show conflicts.
Could Elliott be Saul's guy?
20 years ago, Grey Matter was a small struggling pharmaceutical firm.
MrBizzo It would be awfully coincidental for Jesse to be apartment hunting, and coincidentally rent from an undercover DEA agent. The DEA didn't know Jesse would be apartment-hunting nor renting, and intially he gave his name as Jesse Jackson on his rental app. Of course, it'd be too much of a coincidence that Jane's father turns about to be criminally connected, too. But, there has to be something pretty bad about Jane's father for Jane to be so freaked out about him. But heck, what do I know? I haven't guessed right on anything, LOL.
Wow.....great story! And I love that Walt Jr. character....great kid....great role model for kids! I hope we see more of him in this show!
yeah jamm after i wrote that i went and rewatched season 2. They probably ain't DEA but I don't trust em so that makes em feds to me. Also idon't remember was there any blood any where in the beginning when it showed them white sheets covering tha 2 presumably bodies in mr. whites driveway?
Now I know everything about episode 7. I'd really like to watch it. Is that possible on this fuckstrating site?
Walt deserves to have the worse pain possibly imagined, be it his family killed off or him. I really liked Walt at the beginning, but nothing justifies selling meth let alone COOKING the shit, not to mention he made this decision based on PRIDE. I know the majority of people here have no idea how truly bad meth is and how bad it fucks up people and people who they care about other than the comic relief of jessie who uses meth. Hes producing shit loads of meth and now he plans on becomming a drug lord to get as much money as he can even though he said after the batch is sold its "over". He got a taste of power and now seeks it as it is shown in the next episode where he wants footsoldiers and a "territory" of his own. No sympathy for anything bad happening to him and in fact I can't wait until an episode where he loses alot airs.
No uncertainty in this Heisenbergs principles;
"Stay out of my territory" !!
Another great episode !!
poon it's a TV show, and be asured this show wont end pretty
Meh I know, but putting more emphasis on something that isn't real makes it all the more interesting =)
OK, this episode wasn't a big firecracker like most of them are, but that's OK. They all don't need to have exploding turtles and ATM machine squish-braining.
It's OK to take a breather once in a while.
The best part for me was at the end: first Walt tries to offer professional advice to a fellow cook, then he threatens the cook and his scary-looking partner. Even though the guy was tougher and younger, Walt intimidates them with his sheer attitude.
That was funny.
tehbeermang said "Could Elliott be Saul's guy?"
Maybe it is Hank. Maybe it is a staff member at Walt's school.
I agree 100% and said it before myself that it is way too coincidental that Jane's Dad is anything along the lines of a cop or a huge player in the drug trade. He is just your stereotypical rich guy that buys his way out of problems.
Jesse had four or five rentals circled in a newspaper and so much as told Jane that she was the last one and could she just cut him a break. That free will approach to an apartment for rent is not a DEA setup. The law doesn't look to the stars in the sky to be lined up a certain way when trying to bust somebody. They wouldn't set up an undercover operation like this with the chance that Jesse might take that rental.
Jane's dad has probably just been really hard on her and judgmental of her. Not liking her choice of men. Not liking her career choices. Hurt by her drug addiction and not seeing how she couldn't overcome it herself and needing rehab. It is possibly Jane is just trying to protect Jesse from getting involved with her "family life." That is what she says she is doing. We can take her at her word. I think people are reading into daddy too much.
Simply put, Jane's dad from the perspective of the daughter is a dickhead. He has controlled her much of her life and probably bailed her out of problems financially and paid for drug rehab. He has her just where he wants her, in a building he owns, with his own key. She has semi-freedom by not living with him. She probably doesn't have a mother.
My God, I know a real world version of this story. Only it was the girl's step-dad. He was rich and the mom killed herself but he continued to pay for the girl's apartment, her anti-depressants and other medications, tuition for school, etc. He also tried to get in her pants. Not that Jane's dad is trying to do the same, he is probably her biological father. But this is a story that happens time and time again.
There is a place stuck in between your parents total control and your total freedom, which comes with paying your own bills. I think a lot of people, especially young ladies, are stuck in this transitional stage. It is tough to make it on your own at first. They are old enough and want their freedom but their parents pay some or all of their bills so they have some control over the adult child. I have always said, "if you owe somebody money (family included), then they own a piece of you." It is even worse if you have somebody paying your bills regularly and count on them. They own your life and extend you a little freedom by having your own little apartment like Jane. But she is certainly not free.
I think the mystery distributor could be Hank (pretty nice house for a cop and radiology tech). Wow what a twist that would be! It may be Elliot but I'm doubtful. But I will eat crow if it Jane's dad and I am sure that most viewers will agree that it was way too much of a coincidence and consider it bad writing. The writing has been so damn good so far I really don't think they will mess it up with Jane's dad being the big guy to distribute the drugs.
Look to somebody in law enforcement. Maybe not Hank, but somebody that knows the law and how not to get caught. Law enforcement are some of the best drug dealers.
If you are going to quote using quotation marks - at least get the quote right - he says "Stay out of my territory"
sunmaster14-
If you scroll up towards the top of the page, you will see that what you are pointing out has already been addressed. The first person quoted it wrong and then did a few others but somebody already set it straight like 200 posts ago. Surely, you didn't think you were the first one to know what Walt really said. Enjoy the show.
that last part gave me chills.
greatest show ever.
With just three episodes left for the season, I'm thinking that we're due for one heck of a cliffhanger. I mean, the way their setting up several new characters (such as Saul and Jane's dad), I think it's going to be the mother of all cliffhangers.
No matter how they end season 2, it's going to be an agonizingly long wait for season 3
I know I'm harping on the music here, but I think that there should be a Breaking Bad soundtrack release. I'm that impressed with each episode's selections!
KILZ2 = Walt adding to the already growing body count, my guess, someone comes after him at his house - so he makes the explosion look like some sort of accident.
I have a feeling Saul secret drug dealer might be Jesse's girlfriends dad.
Thats it for now, I'll be posting some BB inspired drum n bass soon, anyone feel like editing a video reel for it?
This may have been answered before and if so I'm sorry....BUT.....
I know that the green boxes that are (literally) a part of the title ("Breaking Bad") are part of the listings defining chemicals or whatever, but are those two items major parts of the making of meth?
Or maybe they're key chemical componants in the human body?
Just curious....
tuttle300 - http://www.webelements.com/
I think it is ridiculous to suggest that W is building a lab under his house. It is a crawl space. Also ridiculous that Jane and her dad are "feds".
He may be Saul's money cleaner (investing in real estate), but even that would be overly conincidental. We only know the tantalizing fact that he is a "hard ass".
Hank and/or his wife may be dirty - maybe even closet meth heads.
Hanks partner is suspicious to me also, though they haven't done much to develop the character thus far.
Why did Hank get "promoted" in the first place anyway?
Did anyone see the mysterious pedestrian across the street through Jesse's windshield while he was driving away after the tiff with Jane? It may have just been someone watching the shoot and/or sloppy editing.
http://www.imeem.com/people/FMhYZxM/playlist/vZvfSO3Q/breaking-bad-music-playlist/
Some breaking bad songs...
After pausing and analyzing the body bags to look for clues on my second viewing of the show this AM, it got me thinking. Somebody said they thought it was Skyler and Walt Jr. because they saw boobs and what could be a pregnant belly. I don't think it is them or any of the other main characters.
Somebody said the guy named Combo (mohawk head) is going to die. I don't think it is him either in one of the body bags..
What I do think could be this. At the very beginning of the preview at the end of the show for next week's show, it shows Combo (mohawk dealer) talking to two guys in a threatening manner and then shows them his gun. The camera shows the guys. Pause... take a look at the two guys and then compare that against the two dead guys at Walt's house in the body bags. Shape and size wise this makes perfect sense that it is them! Then, you hear at the very end of the preview Walt says to Jesse something about "things have changed" and Jesse says "we got a guy killed," possibly implying the mohawk dealer friend of his. They possibly end up going to get Walt and he gets them.
On a separate note, I noticed that every window in Walt's car is web shattered. That indicates a lot of pressure. More pressure than just a couple gun shots and even if Walt fired on them in the driveway with a gun he isn't going to hit every window. It appears to be a nearby explosion. But the house is still there and not blown up. I think that Walt is going to use his scientific smarts (like the Ricin with Tuco) to creatively kill those two guys coming to possibly get him. Maybe he even lures them to his own house for some unknown reason.
Walt is all about revenge and if this Combo guy does get killed, Walt will certainly want to get his revenge on the guys. I can't wait to see!
Not sure if I'd go with Hank being the mysterious distributor. Yeah, he has a pretty nice crib and such, but don't DEA guys get paid pretty good anyway? Plus whatever Marie makes as a CT scan technician would be nothing to sneeze at either. Judging by all the hallucinating, hyperventilating, and stress stuff Hank went through from those recent things that happened to him, I doubt he'd have the psyche to be a big low-key drug dealer (for 20 years). I'm guessing the guy in the DEA would be Gomez. He's the relatively quiet guy in Hank's shadow knowing his every move, taking it all in. He would definitely know if the heat in the kitchen is getting turned up, and when he would have to lay low. He seemed to be the one most interested into going down to the ABQ police station to see Badger, and hear what he had to say about Heisenberg, and finding out Hank's plan of attack afterwards. That'd be wild if Gomez and Hank would get into some sort of confrontation in the final three episodes?
Lucasc-- thanks for the link
I also googled "meth ingredients" and checked out a few of those links as well
(low whistle............)
No way in hell is Hank the secret distributor. That would be so far out of left field that you might as well make Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny partners in the meth trade.
Hank doesn't have the stomach for this as we have seen this past season as he has been pulling a Tony Soprano with the panic attacks.
If anything, I think it might be Hank in one of the body bags and possibly Hanks wife. Hank could possibly have figured out Walters secret life and gets killed in the cross hairs. I don't know who has been signed on for third season so I could be wrong but this would make the most sense to me.
The opening looks like there was an explosion. Do you think the house explodes due to Walt's faulty installation of the water heater? ;)
"The opening looks like there was an explosion. Do you think the house explodes due to Walt's faulty installation of the water heater?"
Perhaps, but that doesn't explain the men in the HAZMAT garb and the bodies lying next to the car.
I wonder if Arron Paul gave RJ Mitte any advice on how to puke?
Check out excerpt from Walt Jr. Interview regarding throwing up on camera:
Yeah! That was fun, except it was a long day. You don't realize it, but that tube they ran down my back was so cold and big. It ran from my shirt, down my neck, down my pants to an air hose that's shooting up cold fake vomit. It was lovely. The first couple of times, they didn't know how much pressure they should use, so it was shooting up in my nose. So I'd sneeze and all this corn came out. Where did Walter Jr. eat all that corn? I couldn't figure that out, because you'll notice every meal it's always bacon and eggs, and sometimes pancakes.
You can tell reading RJ Mitte's interview he's just a very sweet guy (and a teenager). Nice interview, great kid. That was perfect casting for Walt's son - he has (or had) Walt's sweetness (which is disappearing in Walt).
Slygirl08 - That brings up a weird point. How come they only show the White family eating breakfast in the morning, but never shows them eating any other meals? Must be because they are a busy family, what with Walt Jr. in school and hanging out with his buddies, Skyler flirting with her boss, and Walt out in the desert cooking up tons of blue meth, I guess they miss a lot of dinners together.
First of all, this is the best show on tv.
Second, Walt is a bad a##.
Third....i just read about the next episode..that is going to be intense with jesse and jane.
I wish they had re runs on tv...i would watch them all, awesome show.
I'm wondering if too much is being read into events.
First it was Saul was going to be Jane's dad or another dea agent... .. verdit is still out on that ... but he's more than likey a hard ass dad ... who has been on Jane's case since day one.
The Kilz paint while one great metaphor is real stuff.
http://www.kilz.com/... hey maybe they kick in on some endorsement money.. tho I would wonder why..?
95% of meth cookers use KIlz paint... shouldn't you?
The opening.. those guys in the bio-hazard suits , sure a step up from ep. 1 when they busted the first meth lab. Homeland sercuity upgrade money?
While the evidence? don't make a whole lot of sense... I don't see any law enforcement type markings on it. they need a stuffed bear and crayons for evidence of a meth lab?
Could it be something as simple as the hot water heater blew up and there is asbestos worries... and the body bags? .. is that jumping to conclusions a bit. If you have ever been to ABQ. you know how hot it gets... to leave a couple of bodies on the ground ... they would be getting pretty ripe real fast.
They do look a little lumpy... not really like bodies.
The guy in the hardware store was Walt's new gopher last week... that sure turned out to be a bit different.
Let's face it the writing on this is great it opens up so many variants, twist, and different directions. It makes it much more addicting than the blue meth :)
I agree and have brought it also.. Hank and Maria are living in some pretty sweet digs for their legal income.... but then again Hank's family could of had money and no kids sure costs one's expenses. it's not like Gomez wouldn't wonder how Hank could be doing so well.
I really am impressed with this show and with each weeks new episode it hits another level :)
bigfreakinnaz...good point. Except for the latest pool party, I don't think I've ever seen the family eat or drink together. It's always breakfast....rmember Walt Jr. being upset about not getting his Raisin Bran Crunch? I do think the family has an odd dynamic in the way that Walt can just disappear all the time without being questioned too much. I know Skylar didn't want to risk talking to Walt's mother on the phone.....but to not even call to say goodnight while they were "4 Days Out" cooking? I know they are a busy family....but that still seems odd to mel. It seems like they are growing apart. maybe Skylar has just accepted that Walt is dealing with his illness and doesn't want to stress him out with too many questions. Plus, it looks like she has some secrets of her own to keep. with her boss and all.
ZIA, You live in ABQ right? Around how much would you estimate Hank and Maria's house cost on that culdesac? Looks like the house is fairly new, nice southwestern designed home development.
RCH2288 said "No way in hell is Hank the secret distributor. That would be so far out of left field that you might as well make Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny partners in the meth trade."
I don't think that Hank is the major distributor. I just think that that would be a major revelation of a twist on things. No, it isn't likely.
The odds that Jane's dad is the major distributor or Jane and/or her dad are undercover cops are about as like as Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny partnering up to sell meth as well. Think about it. Large city. Jesse finds a rental that just happens to be the daughter of a major distributor or is a sting operation. That is ridiculous.
Hank being the distributor = silly.
Donald (Jane's dad) being the distributor = silly
Jane being an undercover cop = silly
This is a place to discuss what ifs and what we think is going to happen. I have seen some way more far fetched theories than these ones on this board week after week.
"Walt Jr. is so funny and adds needed humor in a heavy and problematic family."
This episode was NOT boring to me. Everything else currently on television is what's boring. BB is great writing, acting, filming and directing.
My observations- the Jeckyll/Hyde aspect was really brought out well this time. Just like in the book, it's a slow painful struggle between two personalities. Hyde was mostly in charge in this one.
Hated to see Junior get "ta-kill-ya" sick, but it was fun to see Uncle Hank get a dose of Heisenberg steel.
Like others, I don't think that's really Jane's Dad. But I doubt he's a fed or cartel, either. My guess is he's just a guy she's been seeing. He goes along with being introduced to Jesse as her Dad, because he's getting some, so what does he care?
Skylar is not sneaky, her attempts to flirt with Boss are clumsy and pathetic, as you'd expect from someone inexperienced at seduction. That's good acting by Gunn. You may not like her character, but she's a damned good actor.
Jesse really needs to grow up and develop some rhino skin in dealing with women. Reminds me of me about 25 years ago. He will learn- or not.
Last- those two amatuer cooks didn't see a "nerdy middle-aged guy with glasses" in the parking lot- they were confronted with HEISENBERG. And he don't act hard, he IS hard. He don't flinch, he don't stutter, he don't act all crazy like a Tuco, he just calmly says, "Stay out of my territory". The big burly one looked in his eyes and saw a stone-cold killer and wisely backed away.
Skottey - I agree with you on those last 3 points on (The 3 characters) you made. I think some posters are trying to hard to read things into the show that just don't add up. I will try to stick to making relevant points from here on out. I don't want to spend too much time trying to predict what is going to happen, will wait to see what actually unfolds during the show from here on out. This show and the writers are doing things that are completely unpredictable and that's the way it should be. Hopefully they continue to think out of the Box and keep surprising us all.
I agree that it is pretty far-fetched that Jane's dad would be the distributor, but he's being played by a fairly well known actor, John de Lancie. Remember he played "Q' on Star Trek the Next Gebneration? I think he will play a fairly significant role on Breaking Bad. But, hey, I could be wrong. DannyTrejo is no slouch in the acting department either. He has had tons of roles and look how quickly they killed off his "Turtle" charachter!
Sorry for all my typos....I'm busy at work but am obsessed with this show : )
jtp said "Like others, I don't think that's really Jane's Dad. But I doubt he's a fed or cartel, either. My guess is he's just a guy she's been seeing. He goes along with being introduced to Jesse as her Dad, because he's getting some, so what does he care?"
Her immediate reaction when she opened the door, not in Jesse's presence, was to say "hi dad." There was no hesitation. A girl using an older guy as a sugar daddy doesn't just call the guy "dad" while alone.
This infatuation with Jane and her dad on this forum is really getting tiresome. So many of you act like Jane and her Dad (or sugar daddy as some of you have concluded) have swooped in to take over the show. The show is about Walt and Jesse primarily. Why is everybody thinking Donald (Jane's Dad) is going to be written in as such a big part of the show? What am I missing?
Greetings Everyone!
This is my first time posting. Been reading for two weeks, which is exactly one week after I FIRST heard of this show. Immediately and by whatever means necessary, I watched every episode from the 1st season plus 1-6 of the 2nd.... In three days.
Here are a few thoughts I have on this weeks episode. Symbolism and metaphors abound in this series, and it is one of the reasons I love it.
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-- Another posted mentioned how it was important that Walt shaved his head at the beginning of this episode and I totally agree. If he'd done it at the end, post-territory confrontation, it would have "made sense". However, this way we have to begin to see that Walt is pretty much right at the mid-point of a full on transformation of Self. Just like Laz describes... This is a modern day Jeckyl & Hyde.
-- One important quote for me comes when Jr. is looking down at him under the house as Walt is busy at work. Jr. doesn't understand why these changes have to take place... Walt says,
"You have to cut it out! Cut it all out, and start FRESH!"
This is meaningful to me in the same way as his continual reference to "rot". He has made an internal decision and the fact of this change comes out in almost every word he speaks. What is he unconsciously referring to "cutting out?" Jesse? Jr and Skylar? - which would lend credence to the fake death scenario. How about Jeckyl/Old Walt?
-- Take a look at the two times in this episode that Walt tries to teach Walt Jr. and be the kind of role-model father that he sees Hank fulfilling.
1) Tequila shots.
Result - Walt Jr. sick and in pain.
2) Taking the new water heater "for a spin".
Result - Walt Jr. twice being burned by the hot water coming out.
Message - Whenever Walt tries to help - he ends up hurting.
A continual message we have seen, and will see more and more I believe.
-- Some posters have mentioned the last two episodes how important the element of water has been. I think it is generally recognized as a symbol of life and its growth. It is also about 80% of what we are made of, including our blood.
At the beginning of the episode Walt notices the water is turning brown. Shortly after he sees it has turned an even darker brown. I see this as a kind of recognition of the change in Walt. His blood is turning, his personality is changing... And when they install the new heater it comes out HOT. One can think of the saying, "his blood was boiling over". This is happening to Walt.
-- Regarding Jane and her Father. I might be completely off here, but when the door knock occurred, and watching the way Jane reacted, I got the strong sense that there is something about sexual abuse in the history. Consider this: Ever since Jane appeared, she has absolutely embodied sexuality and sexual issues. From her underwear displays, to her popsicle sucking, to her desire to visit the "vagina museum", not to mention that it is all she seems to want from Jesse, "what is You and Me?" Her manner has also always been cool, distant and emotionally indifferent. Suddenly, she realizes her father is right outside, and what do we see from her? Absolute chaos. Fear, trepidation, anxiousness. I just got the feeling there is some serious abuse there from her father, and she keeps it all suppressed, meanwhile for all intents and purposes connecting nearly all everyday moments into sexually charged activities.
The best movie I've ever seen that had this type of relationship was in Magnolia... and Jane's behavior reminds me 100% of that daughter in that movie.
One other thing - it is well documented that victims of childhood sexual abuse often times experiment early and often with both drugs and sex as a way to cope. What token did she have from AA? Was it 10 years? hmmm.. she must have started quite early.
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Anyway, I love this show, and I think this forum is the absolute best!
RW... no don't live in ABq... up north
It looks more than fancy digs just off Tramway.
Been a long time since I have been up that way. But I have to say it in the Million dollar ++ view area
It does seem pretty high on the hill.. and high on the hog :)
and Jesse apt. is off of Lead st. somewhere .. when he pulls off after having the spat with Jane you can just catch the street sign... not sure the cross street the one he is actually one.
Good point Slygirl about Danny Trejo
must be the economy :)
and jtp... okay the burly guy ... yeah he could of broken Walt in half... you have to remember though ... a lot of people in NM pack heat
I don't think it's common knowledge as to what Heisenburg looks like... funny I was expecting Walt to say ... "You brought a meth lab to the hardware store "
i'm kind of figuring Janes Dad to be a born again or the likes..IMHO
...continuing on the sexual abuse hypothesis...
Remember how when Jesse wanted to talk about her dad she adamently pointing out, "I wanted to PROTECT you". In my thinking Jane sees her father as a bad/evil man and while he may be no sexual threat to Jesse, all she can think of is the pain he's caused her, and she doesn't want Jesse hurt by him too.
Everyone seems to be jumping on the Dad-as-Distributer bandwagon, but my prediction is that Jane's fears of him (which is the only reason anyone suspects that i.e. "My dad's a bad-ass") aren't based on her seeing him in the drug business knocking heads around, its from her internalized fears of him as a monster.
If I'm right I'll bet that it comes out after prying questions from Jesse... and he decides to take out some retribution on him. Could make for an exciting confrontation (along with all the other events) that will make the final episode so good.
HaHa-
Got a new super-hero character for Jesse to draw:
Rhino-Man
A big horn and a real thick skin when dealing with women!
No offense, gals- you all know you don't want a guy to get all weepy and moody over a slight dis like Jesse did. He's just got to grow up a little.
Rhino-Man sure beats Crawfish Man, I mean Rewindo or whatever.
If Jane's father sexually molested her, it would make sense for her to hide any hint of being involved with a guy. Her father would be jealous. I thought it was odd that she made sure she was completely dressed (and not in any state of undress or pajamas) and made up before she opened the door. It's your parents, after all, they can show up and you don't have to be all put together (well, at least my mother didn't expect that).
Calibob.... good points about the Jane's fears
She is thinking Dad is all Bad- ass and will put Jesse in the dumpster... and Jesse has been doing the hide the reality of what's been going on in his life to Jane... almost to Janes thinking Jesse is like a alter boy.
Hmm ...parallels to Heisenburg's actions with Hank and the guy in the parking lot to surface with Jane's Dad and Jesse
Yo- you think you're bad :)
Someone asked about Jane's coin - it was for 18 months being clean.
Welcome aboard, Calibob! It's always nice to see new people here sharing their insight on the show. I loved all of the water metaphors you talked about. No matter how closely I watch the show, there's always something I miss. It seems like every tiny thing on the show means something bigger, even if it seems insignificant at first. And BTW, I hate Jane! :)
Zia- "You brought a meth lab to the hardware store?'
That would have been a hilarious line- ref to Jesse at the airport! It would have broken the ominous parking lot mood of the scene, but it would have been hilarious!
It got me thinking maybe Heis could become a sort of consultant/ teacher for all the cookers and producers of the cartel- show 'em all how to do it right, for a fee. That would probably never work in the real world, but it would be like his story of the guy who invented industrial diamond process and only got $10 for it, except Heis would reap much more financially. It would be Heis revenging Walt getting his intellectual property stolen from Him by Gray Matter. Hmm... damn I love this show!
Hey everybody -- Well, I don't think Jane's dad was abusing her sexually, and I most certainly don't believe he's involved with feds or cartel... come on, this is just too far fetched -- not to mention that such a coincidence would turn the whole show a bit cheesy. He's just a concerned parent whose daughter went off drugs recently (18 months chip), who controls her life to some extent (keys to her apartment, numerous references to him being a "hardass" etc.) -- a rather natural thing to expect, considering circumstances... I guess Jane senses that there's something fishy going on with Jesse (her questions about him going to work, whatever that work might mean), she's aware of the growing relationship between her and him, and she's simply trying to protect him in a way -- you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what a parent of a recovering drug addict would do if he learned that his daughter is dating a meth dealer...
we are all a bunch of BB addicts jonesing til our next dose.
It was never brought to light exactly what Jane's past drug history was.
If I remember correctly,, when Jess ask if she want to smoke some marijuana is when the 18 month token came out and then the 12 step drivel of MJ being a step back to the road of ruin.
I've dealed with enough Program people over the years , it's something they say .. and sure there may be some factual basis to it... i don't buy in to all of it. Don't get me wrong , if it works for them .. it's ok. But they parrot a lot of things.
For all that has been said... as far as we know her dad might of just freaked out when he found a bag of weed. ... I sure we all know someone that has been though the same thing with their parents.
People, people...
sexual abuse?
Hank and his wife are "closet meth heads"?
Meth lab in the crawl space?
Really?
He doesn't even want his clothes smelling like a meth lab, yet he is ready to cook right under his house? Are you people serious?
And is it really that strange to think that the only landlord that would give Jesse an apartment or condo would be DEA? I'm sure that the first landlords that Jesse went to were jumping out of their skin to give a 20 something with a possibly extensive criminal record and NO JOB a place to stay! Thats why he told Jane that she was his last chance. Nobody else would ever rent to him!
http://www.spikytv.com/breaking-bad-season-2-episode-11-photos
cheak you the video for ep 11 at the end jesse and walt are talking and its said "things have changed" and jeese says "i know skylur got killed" so my money is on skylur being one of those bodies
I'm intrigued by the idea that Elliott might be the person Saul knows. Remember how he said (to Walt), "he's someone a lot like you."? Why would Saul use that expression? He knows he has to appeal to Walt's comfort level in order to get the big bucks out of him.
Also, the guys at the hardware store: The other dude (not the one Walt met in the store) was one of Tuco's henchmen. He recognized Walt and that's why Walt was able to scare him off so easily.
I noticed Walt's smirk at the party. Walt was pretty loaded, I think. I think it had more to do with "winning" the argument with Hank than any sort of ignoring his son's discomfort, even though it manifested itself as such. Drunk people are pretty self-centered.
At the end of episode 10, in the preview for episode 11, Walt says to Jesse "Things have changed" Jesse says to Walt, "Oh I know, You got a guy killed."
I thought on the preview for Mandala, Jesse replies, "Oh I know, we've got a cartel."
I didn't hear anything about there being someone killed...
Zia, I forgot to press the record button for this episode, and I wanted to pause the show when they showed the cross street signs of Jesse's apartment. In passing, I thought the top sign said Girard, but I couldn't read the bottom sign. I looked on Google maps at the intersection of Girard and Lead, and there's no building there that looks like the apartment. I'm thinking it's somewhere on Girard, but on the north side of Lomas?
dr. kellogg,
great call !!
yes the guy in the packing lot was in "handful of nothing" a look out when Heisenburg blew up Tuco's shop
His name is Dennis Keiffer..it sure looks like him
anyway.....#65 in photo
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1154980352/nm0445022
he's not credited in "over" but then he doesn't speak ... which he must of in season 1
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In the link that "slipperyduke" provided above, it shows pics of Jane sticking a needle into Jesse's arm.
Damn! This show is so good, now I find myself seriously worried about my boy Jessie.
Maybe user "James26" who hates Jane has a point!
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Also-- if you go there to that link there are brief descriptions of the final two episodes. (Phoenix and ABQ)
Brief but very heavy with spoilers
Just so all are aware if you prefer being surpised
(I dont mind so the pix there are pretty wild
thanks mitchell and sliipperydude)
mitchell: yeah, I couldn't resist clicking that link either :) Jeez, this show is getting even more intense... only 5 days left for the next dose, lol!
I guess what is so captivating about this show is that you never know which direction it will go: (a) will Walt be ultimately condemned for breaking bad, or (b) will it conclude with a general happy ending sending the message that breaking bad wasn't that bad after all, or (c) will it avoid any definite resolutions leaving us, the fans, facing, uhm, the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle...? I guess I'd love to see the ending being a combination of (a) and (c) -- and by (a) I hope that the writers won't fall into the trap of bad-guy-goes-to-prison scheme, but will come up with something more insightful... Intelligent criminals don't end up in prisons, and Walt certainly is very intelligent -- I guess what I'd love to see is some version of a Shakespearean tragedy that someone mentioned above...
weeya
how about on terrace se. and the corner of Lead and terrace... from google earth it matches up
it's the 300 block of terrace... I can make out lead and lead is one way there.. the house on lead looks to be right ...roof color shape ....
Lead looks good on the sign.. and I can only make out the T on jess st... but I don't see any other streets that start with T.. and it sourt of looks like a e afterwards and the right number of letters
I thought he aunts house was around 16thse... and it's short
oh god .. too much time on ones hands...
weeya... drive by the duplex.. if you get a chance ..or someone if down there in duke city
:)
it's got to be 323/325 Terrace SE.
no street view for that location yet
A lot of jiving up there.. matchups.. plus it's not far from the studio
we will have to have the pilgimage there when they start filming..
zia: Wow, Google is amazing! Here's a link to the rental company offering housing at 315-325 Terrace SE:
http://unmrentals.com/unmapartmentstour315terrace.htm
I guess the third house must be 323/325 Terrace and it looks a lot like the filming location.
I know this is off-topic. Just discovered that Mark Margolis (Tio) was in Scareface. He was the Bomb planting assassin that Al Pacino blows away in the Car scene in New York. I did'nt know if anyone mentioned this in an earlier thread, so I thought I would.
I also said by 'feds' I did'nt mean just cops. but that if I was mr. white or jesse I would consider jane a fed and that she was acting weird around the guy she said was her dad was cuz they feds and probably setting me up.
Also when I wrote all that shit about 'FEDS' I was super FLUCKING high on some Hiesenburg.
I also said by 'feds' I did'nt mean just cops. but that if I was mr. white or jesse I would consider jane a fed and that she was acting weird around the guy she said was her dad was cuz they feds and probably setting me up.
Also when I wrote all that shit about 'FEDS' I was super FLUCKING high on some Hiesenburg.
pg1978
That's the place alright.. without a doubt
http://unmrentals.com/images/323%20Terrace%20Se%203.jpg
wonder what it rents for :)
... and Jesse aunt's place is around 18th st SE.. Google earth has street view in that area ..one could find it if they dragged around in there..I don't have the patience for that though... lots of trees in that area ..Aerial ..too hard to tell
I'll find Hanks place next ...maybe:)..my ex in laws live over there pretty close I think.. pretty sure it's off Tramway near the bend where it goes from north & south to east and west..over by where the hang gliders land
Plus my point was made about how twisty the writers are and got people to quit guessing lame shit. To predict this show you need to think outside the outside of box.
Blue Runner did you say we're all a bunc,h of meth heads waiting for our next dose?
I wish they had a Breaking Bad channel all BB all day all night. Like Truman Show with Jim carey.
Does anyone else enjoy the cinematography o n this show. Like shots with the motorhome and the purple light right b4 it show them trying to kill Saul
Does anyone else enjoy the cinematography o n this show. Like shots with the motorhome and the purple light right b4 it show them trying to kill Saul
Liked the episode but I felt bad when his dad gave him the drink though, made me cry inside. But Loved Walt Jr! He just has that sort of presence around him he has characteristics that seemed to be lost to everyone else, innocence, caring, respectful characteristics that just makes you love him (I know I do!) He is most definitely not the typical Hollywood cookie cut. Can’t wait for the next episode!
WHAT no ones gonna say anything?
I TOLD YOU!@!!!
I KNEW IT! !!!
Pooor Jesse god dam it!!!
so what did he say in the preview?
By MrBizzo on May 13, 2009 1:39 AM
Blue Runner did you say we're all a bunc,h of meth heads waiting for our next dose!
yes
I said,
"we are all a bunch of BB addicts jonesing til our next dose."
Yeah but I am pretty sure that is the metaphor the show is going for. I get high from the show and have shitty come down as soon as every new episode is over. And ita horrible come down so for the next seven days till the next new one i jones for that high. But have to get high on reruns to keep from crashing and keep from getting sick. And then the next new episode gets me higher than the week before and even more dependant and addicted,
Hi my name is MrBizzo and i am an addict. My uh SHow of choice is BB. The last time i used was yesterday. Wait no sorry that is a lie. I used right before i came to this meeting
Gas water heater installed buy a non professional = KABOOM If it takes out a couple of bad guys at the same time..... Well... thats just great writing!!!
Gas water heater installed buy a non professional = KABOOM If it takes out a couple of bad guys at the same time..... Well... thats just great writing!!!
It is definitely "we got a guy killed," not "we got cartel" or "we got Skyler killed."
My first viewing, the wife and I kept playing that last clip back of the preview trying to hear what Jesse said, but the next day I watched the show again in the other room using my better sound system and it was clear, "we got a guy killed." Like I said yesterday, this is probably in reference to mohawk dealer (Combo) who is shown showing two guys (who I think may end up in the body bags) his gun. Walt is all about revenge.
Regarding the Jesse duplex, that Google picture is it. It has a basement. I wonder if that is connected to Jesse's apartment or has its own entrance and is a third rental. If he has a basement accessible, they could cook there. Judging by the cars in the driveway it isn't a high rent neighborhood. Although I know absolutely nothing about ABQ other than the fact that I landed there once on a connecting flight on the way from Tampa to LA where I didn't even leave the plane and thought how pretty the mountains and terrain looked and what I have seen on the show. The show makes me want to visit the city and look for Breaking Bad locations. To the guy that drove by the house with your extra time, you should setup a Breaking Bad sight seeing tour like they have in Hollywood. Hook up with the owner of Jesse and Jane's duplex for a package deal with an all inclusive package where you stay at the duplex, where you are taken to the White's house for a raisin bran and pancake breakfast, followed by a tour of the grocery store where Walt was naked, the gas station where Skyler bought cigs, and the hardware store, among other locations. You could end the day with tequila shots or non-alcoholic Skyler style beverages and then it is back to the duplex for night number two, complete with usage of Jesse's TV and the Breaking Bad Season 1 DVD set you get to keep, signed by Walt and Jesse. How's that sound? Sounds like a money making operation to me for us fans. Think outside the box man. You have all that time on your hands searching for the duplex. Stop slinging meth on the "streat" and get to work yo.
Regarding the gas water heater- I am pretty sure Walt knows what he is doing and the dangers of gas. He is a chemist and all and he is smart. He is also the type of guy that actually would look at the directions, read every warning, and follow it verbatim. I don't think he installed it wrong. I think somebody comes to the house and Walt uses his mad skills to kill them with some type of explosion.
Somebody mentioned that they may not even be bodies in the bags because of the heat out there. Well, it is late fall in their timeline and a few minutes in a bodybag in the driveway would be required before loading them up for processing. I live in FL with the heat and humidity and while a car can heat up to 160 degrees in just a few minutes with the windows closed, the cops still have to do their job. We don't know how long they laid them out. It could have been done very quickly.
I just cannot wait for the three remaining shows. I am going to feel "down" when it is over for 9 or so months.
It is definitely "we got a guy killed," not "we got cartel" or "we got Skyler killed."
My first viewing, the wife and I kept playing that last clip back of the preview trying to hear what Jesse said, but the next day I watched the show again in the other room using my better sound system and it was clear, "we got a guy killed." Like I said yesterday, this is probably in reference to mohawk dealer (Combo) who is shown showing two guys (who I think may end up in the body bags) his gun. Walt is all about revenge.
Regarding the Jesse duplex, that Google picture is it. It has a basement. I wonder if that is connected to Jesse's apartment or has its own entrance and is a third rental. If he has a basement accessible, they could cook there. Judging by the cars in the driveway it isn't a high rent neighborhood. Although I know absolutely nothing about ABQ other than the fact that I landed there once on a connecting flight on the way from Tampa to LA where I didn't even leave the plane and thought how pretty the mountains and terrain looked and what I have seen on the show. The show makes me want to visit the city and look for Breaking Bad locations. To the guy that drove by the house with your extra time, you should setup a Breaking Bad sight seeing tour like they have in Hollywood. Hook up with the owner of Jesse and Jane's duplex for a package deal with an all inclusive package where you stay at the duplex, where you are taken to the White's house for a raisin bran and pancake breakfast, followed by a tour of the grocery store where Walt was naked, the gas station where Skyler bought cigs, and the hardware store, among other locations. You could end the day with tequila shots or non-alcoholic Skyler style beverages and then it is back to the duplex for night number two, complete with usage of Jesse's TV and the Breaking Bad Season 1 DVD set you get to keep, signed by Walt and Jesse. How's that sound? Sounds like a money making operation to me for us fans. Think outside the box man. You have all that time on your hands searching for the duplex. Stop slinging meth on the "streat" and get to work yo.
Regarding the gas water heater- I am pretty sure Walt knows what he is doing and the dangers of gas. He is a chemist and all and he is smart. He is also the type of guy that actually would look at the directions, read every warning, and follow it verbatim. I don't think he installed it wrong. I think somebody comes to the house and Walt uses his mad skills to kill them with some type of explosion.
Somebody mentioned that they may not even be bodies in the bags because of the heat out there. Well, it is late fall in their timeline and a few minutes in a bodybag in the driveway would be required before loading them up for processing. I live in FL with the heat and humidity and while a car can heat up to 160 degrees in just a few minutes with the windows closed, the cops still have to do their job. We don't know how long they laid them out. It could have been done very quickly.
I just cannot wait for the three remaining shows. I am going to feel "down" when it is over for 9 or so months.
Sorry about the double post.... I got an error page the first time. I am not trying to increase the comment count this week. I am not really.
Cannot wait for the show this week!
Regarding the crawlspace. I don't think Walt is going to cook down there BUT, that would make an excellent duck and cover space if he were to set off some type of explosion to two guys coming into the house after him.If nothing else he could hide down there.
skotty said about next week's previews, "I noticed that every window in Walt's car is web shattered. That indicates a lot of pressure. More pressure than just a couple gun shots and even if Walt fired on them in the driveway with a gun he isn't going to hit every window. It appears to be a nearby explosion." I noticed the shattered windows, too, but didn't put it together like you did. Great observation! I also didn't see any real body damage to the car other than the windows.
I don't think Hank's dirty or that Walt is building anything under his house...I think he's just reinforcing the joists. I loved the exchange between him and Walt, Jr. as he hands the kid a piece of the wood he's ripped out. He asks Jr. if he's ever seen anything like that before.
"It's wood."
"But it contains fruiting bodies."
"Fruity what?"
Awesome show. Jr. is a total doll. I hope nothing happens to him, and don't think anything will this season anyway. That would probably be reserved for the end of the series run.
The pink teddy bear is giving me total creeps at this point. The masked law enforcement person put it in the white bin and withdrew his hand. Then there was a shot of the teddy bear from the front. It was moving just a tiny bit from just being set down in the bin, but that was so freaking creepy.
Many people have guessed who might be in the body bags. The best guess so far are the two creeps from the parking lot. For sure the fab 6 will be safe for season 3.
Skottey, I agree with you about the water heater. Yea Science, won't screw it up.
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In the link that "slipperyduke" provided above, it shows pics of Jane sticking a needle into Jesse's arm.
Oh my gosh you guys...i went to the link of the pic for the next episode and I was shocked to see Jane shooting up Jesse! I read brief descriptions of the last 2 episodes and it says that his addiction causes serious problems. Why would Jane do that if she's in Recovery? I guess it's one day at a time.....but, man, I always tjought she was trouble from the get go.
Hey, I went down there and rented the place.
All of Jesse stuff is gone.. the bed and the flat screen that had real black blacks.
I was okay with that ...but when I found out Jane didn't live next door anymore... I was pissed because 20 illegals live ther now.. and I'm stuck with a year lease....damn
Myabe I can open a Bed and Breakfast for die hard BB fans
Notice how after Walt started letting out that repressed side of his personality, he always gets that little smile on his face ( very subtle) or he gets very sexual with his wife? He has been dying to let that aspect of himself come out. They are starting to show that now, even if he wanted to, he couldn't change his path. The part of his personality that was hidden but always present is starting to take over. Walt is becoming a totally different person.
A Breaking Bad tour! That makes me laugh...I never thought in my life that anyone would want to tour the Hi-Lo Market on N4th Street in Albuquerque, or any Circle K for that matter!
I'm still not sure about that house on Terrace and Lead. I'll ask my brother...he's a city bus driver and knows the Turkey Town pretty good. Wish I could just drive by and check it out myself, but I'm two states away! It would be a very long drive for me.
That scene they keep coming back to of the little Elmo stuffed animal is really fasinating...and no way are those body bags out in the driveway. Body bags aren't laid out in a driveway, they are taken away by an ambulance or in this case, by the police or sheriff's coroner. Those bags are probably some sort of evidence bags. I don't think police body bags would be white.
I said before that I thought those were sheets covering the bodies, not body bags. Someone mentioned that maybe the water heater explodes and kills the two guys that came there to kill Walt and his family. That would be great if that's what happens. It kind of makes sense, although with this show, you can never truly predict what happens. I can't wait!!!
No Weeya..... it da place
The address, the heater pipes on the roof, the red tiled awnings, the stairway , the blue paint on the concrete , the short distance to Lead st. , the profile of the house across on Lead... they all match up.
certain advantage to have eps. digital.. the real estate link really confirms it all
Only thing missing is Jesse and Jane standing out front :)
But back to real BB stuff.
in the beginning when the crayons, again why would crayons be part of evidence for some drug related event... when the crayonsa re place in the container... it's next to some squarish looking object..it looks like a big ring...any ideas what it is?
i would like that if these guys in the bio-suits were in Law Enforcement there would be some sort of marking on their suits..there is nothing front or back
no DEA or APD ...??..not even AMC :)
proably not the water heater blowing up now that I have looked over it again.. there is one shot that shows the windows ... and they aren't blown out... which I would think would happen most any time a heaters blows up...seems like there would have to be some damage to the garage door to allow such damage to the windshield of the car
I guess they could be body bags.. they do have a strange zipper on them.. but doesn't make sense they would be on the ground like that...seems like they would be removed ..or place in a ambulance
It looks sort of looks like the one bio-guy is writing something on the bag and getting ready to place something in there...gosh is this just buildup to end the season with... get us really wondering ;)
to bad ..no edit function..or be able to post pics here...after re reading post ...lol
Hey on that BB tour, don't forget to drop by the Dog House for a quick bite for lunch or dinner and the Atomic Museum.
Those white bags that look like they could be body bags? Nobody's in them. Betcha.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before since it is so obvious that it could be the case.
What if the scene with the pink stuffed animal, the pool, the car, the body bags (or whatever you want to call them) is just a reoccurring dream that Walt is having about fear of losing his family to his choices? Maybe in the 13th episode they show the rest of the scene and then Walt just pops up out of bed like waking up from a bad dream. All this time, all across America, we have been speculating on what this scene is all about and it could just be a really bad dream.
Anyway, regarding the body bags. Don't you think that before they are loaded into an ambulance they are laid out and the bodies are put into them. Just for a minute even. How do we know that they are even white? It is a black and white scene except for the pink toy. Light colored shades appear white in black and white. Like somebody else mentioned of the heat out there. Maybe in hot places black body bags are not used.. Or, they are just sheets like somebody else said. They may not be bodies, but I suspect they are.
Zia, the square thing next to the crayons was a woman's watch, I think.
Ugh, THOSE ASSHOLES!!!! Anyone listen to the podcasts? I listened to the podcast from episode 10, about 5 or 6 writers and editors talking about the show along with Hank. Although I assumed they wouldn't give much detail about the opening scene, which I was correct about, they have SOME NERVE to laugh about how confused the audience must be about these vague opening scenes!!! Yes, they are laughing at US! Needless to say, they don't give up anything about the opening scene. They even laugh about how pissed the audience will be if these opening scenes aren't clarified by the end of season 2. Don't they understand what we are going through??? Oh, wait. They DO understand our pain, and they laugh at us. How dare they. After hearing this podcast, I'll never watch this show again. Well.....Ok, I'll still watch.
I agree, that's pretty dickish of them to laugh at us. The mystery better be revealed at the end of this season. I don't wanna have to wait another year to see what it's all about. Oh, I better watch what I say, or the writers will laugh at me some more!
I consider it that they are laughing with us. I have gotten some good laughs here as well :)
I like the bad dream idea..makes sense.
it may be that or Walt Jr. has some way toxic puke
"I love Walt Jr., his storyline should be increased for diversity sake! It's cool that a contemporary show is adding a character with a handicapping condition."
zia, that is too funny about Walt Jr.'s toxic puke! XD
It could very well be a dream that Walter is having. Not sure how I would feel about that. I guess I would be relieved that no one important was killed, but I'd feel a bit cheated if they built it up for this long only for it to be a dream.
I would feel soooooo cheated if it all turned out to be a dream. Remember way back when "Dallas" was on and Bobby Ewing dreampt the entire season? What a rip-off. I hope our BB writers don't do that to us.
That being said....I still would rather it be a dream that have them kill off any of the major characters.
Slygirl08-
Oh if the whole series or season ends up to be a dream I think I will burn my DVDs of the show and curl up in a ball and cry for a week. That would totally suck. I meant just the opening sequence part being a bad dream. That wouldn't be so bad. Like you said, at least nobody important to the show dies.
I have enough faith in the show that the writers won't ruin it with something like the whole series being a bad dream but anything can happen. I was only a child when that Dallas show concluded but I remember people not liking that it ended as a dream. Was it just a season or the whole series that was a dream? I thought it was the whole series but you said season.
I was thinking the black and white footage/possible explosion may be a nightmare or an event that takes place at the very very end of the whole series.
I agree with Skottey that opening scene around the pool could just be a dream sequence. That's the feeling that I got from the black and white. If it is an actual preview of things to come, then I think it could be a preview of the series finale, not the season's end. After all it was mentioned in the podcast that it isn't going to be cleared up this season.
The shows Newhart and St. Elsewhere both turned out to all be a dream in their final episodes. BB is WAY above that kind of cheesiness (at least I hope so)!!!
Two tidbits from HANK'S BLOG
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1) Check out Hank's description of Walt during the confrontation:
"I've seen this guy drink before, but I wasn't prepared for the little Jekyll and Hyde thing he had going on."
Further evidence that I think one of the major projects of this series is to recreate the story Jeckyll And Hyde - with an eye to the original writers'intention - We all are are TWO things at once. An instinctive animal-like being as well as a mentally-active thinking being. And this is better than the original because it is a real life internal crossover, as in real life... not an all out physical change brought on by some clever creation.
2) Here is another quote from Hank:
"But maybe my brother-in-law can come up with something. (He kind of owes me one. The reason why is unimportant.)
What exactly is Hank talking about? Is it from the time that Walt Jr. got nailed for trying to buy beer and got let go? Is that really something Walt owes him for?
I'm curious if people think Hank really feels like Walt OWES him... and if so why? This confrontation between them is going to be EPIC. Not only does Hank think Walt "isn't tough", but he thinks he owes him as well. All the better for riteous fireworks when Walt finally drops the hammer on him.
I feel sorry for Hank already.
No, not the entire series, only that aftermath opening sequence around the pool. Showing the sequence in black and white seems like a method of insinuating a dream or vision.
Black & white footage has been already used in the show, and it doesn't necessarily refer to a dream -- remember the opening of episode 2.01 with a scene at the junkyard...? It was shot in black and white too. My bet is that this actually is going to be the closing scene of Season 2/opening scene of Season 3, that's what the colors are hinting to.
I don't thing the thugs from Home Depot will resurface in the show, and I'd be really surprised if these were their bodies covered by sheets/stored in the bags in the scene. I seriously fear the victims of the explosion/poisoning/Walt's rampage/hot water tank/whatever will turn out to be some of the main characters of the show, or some of the ones that are yet to become main characters of the show. Now how about Jane's dad...? What if Jane relapses to her drug addiction, her father learns that her boyfriend is a meth dealer, finds all about Walt and Jesse, and decides to take justice into his own hands, which will lead to a tragedy...?
Zia, thanks for pointing out the similarities about the house. I was thinking that the front of the house had two separate doors, but I guess that was the back of the house I was thinking of? So you're going to open a B&B for BB fans? lol You're funny. You can serve dogs from the Dog House and feature breakfast burritos with that special mystery ingredient (it's chile P Yo!)
Love RJ's acting-would like to see more of Him! The show is missing a wonderful opportunity to increase their viewers by developing this character more .He certainly sucks you in with his looks and actions.
Love RJ's acting-would like to see more of Him! The show is missing a wonderful opportunity to increase their viewers by developing this character more .He certainly sucks you in with his looks and actions.
Love RJ's acting-would like to see more of Him! The show is missing a wonderful opportunity to increase their viewers by developing this character more .He certainly sucks you in with his looks and actions.
I love the thought of a B&B for BB fans.
Carr70508 : I agree, I would love to see more of him. I love what RJ does with his character. Walt Jr. is the best role model in the show - a kid who respects his family even when his parents don't deserve the devotion
You can tell Walt Jr. is a really good kid. I hope nothing bad ever happens to him.
I just love Walt Jr! He's funny anda really good role model. i like that the show has a character with speech and walking troubles
Thanks weeya,
I was scoping around Google Earth.... tramway area..what kind of sets Hank's place as different is .. a cul-de-sac kind of out by itself. Most of the places right off tramway rd. are fairly high density.
Looks to be a fairly new development north of the tram.. that would seem about right
Burritos... as long as it green chili from Chimayo or Hatch ...I am hooked on green chili.
The B&B for BB fans... you guys caught that one fast :) and I so try to be subtle
pg ... I don't think the main thug from the parking lot is even going to mess with Heisenburg.. I really have to watch "crazy hand full of nothing" again... but pretty sure it's the same guy that was one of Tuco's Guards.. he knows what Walt is capable of
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0445022/
he has been quite busy
RJ is doing so a great job... I'm sure we will be seeing much more of him.. I hope so.
I hated seeing the spoiler about Jesse :(
That slut Jane ...should of listened to James :)
Calibob I think what Hank thinks Walt owes him is about looking for him when he disappeared, and keeping Skyler and Jr. from freaking out. Or going into anything about the second cell phone or what that may mean.
Maybe Hank is laboring under the illusion that he covered for Walt in that whole disappearance thing (and his frequent absences from the house as I'm sure Skyler has let Marie know and Hank knows from Marie) because he actually thinks Walt is having an affair. That would be quite a laugh if he thinks that's what Walt is up to, and that he covered for Walt.
I do find it quite funny that the hardware store guys were like clones of Heisenburg & Jesse..
Baldy and RunAwayFromShoppingCartMan ;)
zia-I told you about Jane when I first saw her, lol. ;)
I didn't even think about the hardware store guys being like Walt and Jesse, but you're right! Although I think Jesse is probably a little smarter than the goofball who ran away. :)
zia Love your description of the two hardware guys - LOL
James26 Please keep your celebrating to a minimum about Jane while the rest of us have egg on our face! LOL
Got Jesse going the wrong way
Jane needs her Tramp Stamp it should be like one a box....
.... "THIS SIDE UP "
LOL! Don't worry, jamm54, I won't rub it in your face...not TOO much anyway! ;)
zia-exactly what side would be up with Jane? LOL!
I'm kind of old... but isn't what is called a tramp stamp pretty much in a specific area ....... not much imagination needed as to what side is up :)
..now with BikerBurg & ShoppingCartMan
just a bit funny that they are in a RV also.
I just watched Crazy Handful of Nothing again..lol
one of my favorites...when Heisenburg comes alive
I really can't tell if it the same guy that let Walt up to see Tuco...looks a lot thinner..but wasn't it a pretty long time btwn season1 and season 2... what that when the strike was?
guess he could of built up that much... no credits on Imdb as to who the hardware store guys are
and the closeup of Bikerburg isn't near as clear as the lookout in sea.1 ep.6
I loved that episode where Walt blew up Tuco's hideout. He has major balls as Heisenberg! Yeah there was quite a bit of time between seasons, so that could have been him.
LMAO, zia! That was funny!!
One time, my daughter suggested a Tramp Stamp, for me.
When I asked her, what should it say, she giggled, "ALL ABOARD!!"
Ohhhhhh...that ornery girl!!! ;)
(Needless to say, I still don't have any tats! ha ha ha!)
Also ya'll, that was GREAT, about the B&B for BB fans!!! So...when ya gonna be open for business?!? =\ The fans await!!
James26 Guess your "good riddance" wishes, for Jane, are finally going to come true!
In Pamala's "Predictions"...one of my WAY OFF guesses, was that: Jane would get abducted by the Human Traffickers & taken down to Mexico, to be "sold"...but, later rescued! =)
As far as Jane being shown, shooting Jesse up, with a needle... I've not seen the pic yet, but will go check it out...
Maybe, he ends up being diabetic???
OR...wait!!! It's an Epi-pen!! 'Cuz he was "Bit by a Dead Bee!!"
BWA ha ha ha! =D
well i think our dear jane is a minor way underage for our man jesse and if her controlling dad found out she would have to anwser to that and if it was me i would never want to anwser so in short i think its just a fight between parent and child NOTHING THERE i am so syked about the rest of the season i go over synarios in my mind all day long oh by the way i was yelling at skyler to not grab her bosses hand i hate adultery why not leave then get your groove on hateing her charicter
lurn 2 spel
i think the whole thing with the pool scene is a foresight plus i love the black and white perspective it kinda reminds me of schlindlers list where it shows all the dead bodies in a pile and you see the little girl who is wearing the red jacket the pink bear is also in the twaughhammer video so it might mean the death of jesse but with this show who knows this show has more twist and turns than a epileptic whorehouse
also while iam thinking about it has anyone seen the right guard comercial with the guy who plays badger every time i see it it cracks me up i think back to the video of him and walt breaking in to the old laddys house my nana has a vacum cleaner you can have lol
It has been noted that in the opening black/white filmed scene that it looks like debris from an explosion, and Walt's car windows have the spider fractures, but the home doesn't look damaged. Maybe Walt uses some more of that explosive rock that he used in Tuco's HQ during the first season. I could see Walt getting challenged by the Mexican Cartel, etc. and not having a gun, but may have some of that rock left. This might explain the damage we see, but not a totally destroyed house, like would happen with a gas leak in a crawl space detonating.
One option for Jayne and her "dad" could be that she has been busted for doing/dealing drugs in the past, and now the DEA or other cops have her over a barrel and she's working for them. If she was a cop herself, I don't think that she would be so quick to sleep with Jessie, but if she's just a snitch for the cops, that's different.
I haven't re-watched the shows after seeing Walt go down into the crawl space to "clear out the rot", but from what has been shown of the outside of the house, the house looks like it would have a concrete floor with no crawl space. Not a part of the plot, but maybe a goof by the director(?)
My wife and I have thought about recording this show and watching it earlier in the day, because we've had trouble sleeping after the total rush of shows like when Tuco is killed. Mostly it's just thinking about all of the clues that are given in the show (and in this forum), and the many directions that the show could go, and how we've not been able to guess right, yet.
You mentioned Saul knowing some heavy hitters. When Jessie was trying to rent the appartment from Jane, Jane told Jessie that she also knew some heavy hitters that she could call in to TCOB. When Jessie's dealer was busted a couple of shows back, we thought that some of Jane's hoods might be called in to work for Jessie.
mhjim,
I agree with you on the slab foundation. Looking at the outside of the house would put it in the right timeframe to no longer have crawls spaces.. On thing about NM is you have maybe six inches of topsoil and then it's big ass rocks... Jesse Aunt's place old enough ... Jesse and Jane's den of iniquity ... 100 years old... pier and beam
The White's place .. looks to be a Bellamah home ..slab... probably 24" centers on framing.
NM is not well know for building quality homes.
Probably blasted to put the pool in.
I don't see Walt having the Mercury Fulminate just laying around the house , he did have a very large amount .. a pound ?? ... there is a youtube on how to make it ????.. it does weaken with time .. the fun stuff we can find out on the web
But can you picture that stuff with a sling shot
odds and probalitys of Jesse renting a place next to a DEA snitch ??... Daddy's got money .. probation ... unless the slut killed someone too.
that slut reference is there for a reason ... ehhh James....lol
I'm curious ... slut slamming blue or smack... oh my ...sunday is soooo far away
I'm watching "Over" right now, and the Jane/Dad/Jesse scene. Poor Jesse, he's really into Jane and falling hard. Probably his first serious "adult" relationship. I mean he even decorated his living room, like it's a little home or something (matching recliners, furniture, decoration, etc). It sure doesn't look like some young guy's slobby bachelor pad. Cooking breakfast for the little woman? Boy, he's just so giving. Jesse really wants a home and family or ties so badly. It's really a shame. Makes you want to cry for Jesse.
If Ted Bennecke is cooking the books, did he hire Skyler figuring he could just sweet-talk and charm her out of noticing any discrepancies, unlike a complete stranger? Was the former bookkeeper let go or fired for being too inquisitive? Is Ted banking on his former flirtation with Skyler to protect him from questions, but have his books kept creatively? He's being pretty forward with an about-to-drop-the-baby married woman. Is Skyler a patsy?
Jane's Dad. (I know some are sick of the subject) How about he's a Judge? Jesse somehow ends up in his courtroom?
Just for laughs: Skyler and her boss in the body bags! Walt comes home and finds them making out by the pool. (Silly, I know)
For James26: How about Jane and, well, anyone else in the body bags :-)
Body bags, or not, left out too long or not: If the guys are in "hazmat" suits, then maybe a "different" type of bag, and not put into a Coroner's van right away but waiting for special transport.
Literary License, I suppose, but why is the bear not IN the bag instead of partially hanging out of it?
I too, wonder why Skyler and Walt Jr. are not asking where the money is coming from for the Water Heater and repairs. Perhaps not enough time to deal with all of the plot threads? Especially with an army of us using fine tooth combs vs. only a handfull of busy writers.
From the trailers running on AMC for next week. Skyler saying you could go to jail for that. What did she discover about the Keller account? That the boss took over the business from his dad does not make him a good businessman! Maybe he's got a sideline in money laundering to prop up a failing business?
Hi Skottey and james 26....I had a company lucheon to attend yesterday so am just now catching up with the posts. You're correct that St. Elsewhere and Newhart both had dream sequences too.I think they were winking at Season nine of "Dallas" though. That was way back in '84 when the producers of that show lamely decided to explain the death and reappearnce of Patrick Duffy's charachter "Bobby Ewing" as a dream Victoria Principal's charachter "Pam" had. Lame, lame, lame. I don't think our brilliant BB writers would ever take an easy way out like that. For just a scene, I do suppose it's possible though. Of course, anything would be better than them killing of our beloved Walt or Jesse : )
Wow! I missed a lot of posts since I had to work all day yesterday, and last evening went to my daughter's school play "Alice in Wonderland", and at the end Alice had dreamt it all! How ironic! Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Gilligans Island end up being a dream too? And the top BB guy is named Gilligan too? Hmmmm.....
I'm thinking the big reason Ted hired Skyler was because since he knew her from working there before, he could lovey-dovey her into looking the other way if she found a problem in the books from whatever funny shit he's up to. Maybe the former bookeeper got the axe because she came across the same "mistakes" and threatened to blow the whistle on him?
slipperyduke-I love that Right Guard commercial with Badger! He acts just how he acts on the show, it's hilarious! XD
zia-Thank for the "slut" reference, lol! :)
Bald 50-I can only pray that it's Jane in one of the body bags! Seems doubtful though. :(
Hey Slygirl, how are you today? ;)
Hi James....I'm doing pretty good : ) Only 3 more days until our next episode. Then I'll be doing better! It'll be awful when the seaon's over though. What will we do for all those months? How are you today? Great, I hope : )
Hey, I'm doing pretty good too! :) I know what you mean, it will suck so bad when the show is over for another nine months or so. A show this great needs to be on every week! :)
No way that there are 1 or 2 main characters dead in those bodybags- By showing the bodybags in that scene, the writers WANT people to think there is a chance that a main character dies. Maybe to keep people watching the show to find out what happens ( like we AREN'T obsessed as it is ). In a show like this, the death of a main character would be completely unexpected, unless its showing what happens during the very final episode. The death of Skyler or Walt Jr. anytime soon would bring the action of the show to a screeching halt.
I can't ever remember being this into a show. Some of the other shows I have been really into are LOST, Prison Break, The Sopranos and Oz.....but nothing compares to this. I have never been on a message board before but have been reading your guys' converstaions for some time and really wanted to be a part of it. I'm in California.....how about you? Are you one of those lucky Eastcoasters who gets the show 3 hours early? I used to have satellite and could watch it early too but now I have Cable and have to wait until 10:00pm PST. It's always worth the wait though : )
I'm in Michigan. I see the show at 10 on Sunday. :)
It's so cool that we're all from different parts of the US but have come together on this site and can talk about our favorite show. I have asked almost everyone I know here in town and nobody watches Breaking Bad! I keep tellimg them what they're missing but I can't get them to tune in.
How's the weather in Michigan? i'm in Sacramento and it's supposed to be 100 degrees tomorrow!
Slygirl: I'm in CA too... waiting all week for a next episode is bad enough, but the part of every Sunday from noon on till 10 pm is a torture :)
I guess my addiction to the show is getting a bit out of hand -- yesterday I spent like two hours watching some crap on AMC just to catch this Breaking Bad promo where Combo gets killed that everybody is talking about, lol Yeah, I can't remember being that obsessed with a show, and I'm a bit surprised that you can still actually get that much into a show at my age, haha!
Hi pg1978....were you born in 1978/ That's no where near old : ) I feel left out because I haven't seen that promo yet. Dang! Does Combo really get killed or is it unlear?
bfn I think that's exactly why Ted hired Skyler as his bookkeeper. She was applying for a data entry job initially. When she pushed her way in to his office, I think he decided right then on impulse to "offer" her the bookkeeper job. Bet the job wasn't open until that moment - LOL.
I'm residing in So.Cal. I have to say that I'm also addicted to this show. Its one of the most original TV shows that I can remember watching. The characters and plot are really compelling. I think the choice of location is also a big draw. New Mexico is a visually stunning place if you like Desert and Mountains. When I was a kid, I remember traveling there. We covered a lot of the state as we were headed to Las Cruces to visit Family.
Well as others have said this is the tipping point of where Walt lets more of his "Heisenberg" persona become part of him, anyone notice he's actively shaving his head even though he's no longer under going chemo?
Woops i meant "since" not "even though".
Slygirl-The weather is crappy in Michigan, lol. It's really windy here and we're supposed to have rain too. I know what you mean about trying to get people to watch BB. I keep telling my friend to watch it, and how good it is, but he never watches tv, lol! In the promo I saw on AMC, it looks like Combo is pretty dead, which sucks. :(
Zehbrahs, I think you can attribute him shaving his head to the fact that "Heisenberg" has arrived and is firmly established now. For Walter White/ Heisenberg there's no going back now.
Slygirl: yeah, I was born in '78, which was like a century ago, lol I'm sorry to say that, but it really looks like Combo is getting killed -- I can't imagine how writers can possibly resurrect him, the scene in the promo where he gets shot and lands flat on his face is rather unambiguous, and then we hear Jesse say "We've got a guy killed..." So, yeah, it sucks, but he looks pretty darn dead to me.
On a more cheerful note, I'll be going to TX this summer -- the trip is about my work, but now I'm pretty sure that instead of just flying, I'm going on an epic roadtrip with a prolonged stop in ABQ :)
Yes, Zehbrahs - good eye! I noticed, and thought what the hell?. I was surprised Skyler didn't complain. Isn't Walt over chemotherapy or is he about to start a new round? It is indicative of the internal shift to more Heisenberg - I was just surprised he got away with it at home without complaint (or legitimate reason, I thought).
Okay, where's his black hat? I liked that, but he seems to have given up wearing it (I guess he only got decked out in his formal wear for Tuco - LOL).
Yeah, Combo's gonna get it allright! Just saw the BB preview a minute ago while watching Death Wish 3! I love Charles Bronson. He's of Ukrainian descent like I am.Trying to figure out what (or whose?) door that is Walt is kicking in on that preview commercial.
Greetings Slygirl08! I'm from central PA. Wanted to mention earlier that some dude was busted somewhere near here that had a meth lab in his Dodge Caravan! No shit! Anyhoo, I drove through Sacramento years ago - nice city!
Lets get to the Breaking Bad facts people. I've seen all episodes so far. after watching this last episode, it seems that Walt is embracing his calling. He has embraced the fact that he has started something. A Meth boss. Once you start making that kind of money, It's hard to go back to a normal life. It's kind of cool though. He is a brilliant person, teacher, and he knows REAL Chemistry...hence, a perfect methylamine genius. I mean thats his area of study. His profession, what he went to college for.
So it was given that he would eventually fall into the drug field.
And his step brother is a deuce. I hope he punches him, and show his son the ropes(his footsteps).
This is a great show. I have never been addicted to a show like this before.
Everyone should try out for Breaking Bad. Keep on the look out for Casting Calls! If your into acting. Sucks about the fee you have to pay!
"Over" - Brother-in-law friendship between Hank and Walt?
I think Walt is finally getting tired of Hank taking control of what is in the best interest of the family. DEAs are jerks, control freaks. Especially higher ranks.
Plus, Walts a meth boss now, He shouldn't like DEA scum!
76 degrees ..light breeze here in NM
Clayton... got the BB shirt today...sweet
I like it so much I am going to have to go see Gov. Richardson and see about getting Clayton, NM renamed to Clayton Neuman, NM it is kind of a tounge twister... He might go for it though , are you good with that .. ;)
Tomorrow is free evening at the Georgia O'Keefe Museum, so I'll be wearing this BB shirt when I go. I've never been 86'ed out of a bar, but pretty sure I'll be asked to leave tomorrow night when I ask ...
" Where Are The Vagina Paintings? "
Aaron-Welcome to the forum! :)
LOL Zia!
it's so nice to meet all of you. I should have joined this forum ages ago.
Hey Aaron, just wondering.... Who, exactly, is Walt's step-brother? And just because he studied Chemistry, it was "given that he would eventually fall into the drug field?" I guess just like all the other high school Chemistry teachers/meth producers? Didn't know there were so many Chemistry teachers/meth producers in the world. You would think the teachers unions would pay the Chemistry teachers more money so they don't end up going to the "Bad" side.
Slygirl-We're glad you joined now! :)
Thanks so much James : )
have you all been members since last season?
How do you think this season compares with last season? They are both so poerful it's hard for me to say. Season 1 got me hooked and Season 2 keeps me wanting more. I'm sooooooo glad there's going to be a Season 3!
I have to wrok on all those typos. Sorry about that. I'm at work and I try to just send my messages off too quickly sometimes.
I've been a member since the first season, although I hardly posted then. I joined after the third episode where Walter killed Krazy-8. Still one of my favorite episodes. I'm so glad that there's gonna be a season 3 too! :)
That was one of my favorite episodes too! I remember when Walt realized that part of the plate he had served Crazy 8 from was missing. That's when he knew he had to kill or be killed. a true pivitol turning point in the life and character of Walter White
That whole sequence was brilliant, from him talking to Krazy-8 and getting to know him, to realizing the piece of the plate was missing, to ultimately strangling Krazy-8. That was when he truly became a killer, and there was no turning back. I was so affected by that whole scene!
I saw most of last season, but didn't discover there was a forum on AMC.com until after Ep. 1 of this season. I'm glad I found it - I love sharing insights with all of you just as much as I love THE FREAKING SHOW!!! This is one of the best shows I have ever seen on television. Ever. It even blows Law And Order outta the water, and I've been watching that show for 20 years. Thank goodness BB isn't on the same time as my L&O is!! Another show I really was getting hooked on was Life on Mars, but ABC in their infinite wisdom cancelled it. Oh well, ABC always DID suck anyway.
Last season succeeded in getting my attention little by little till I was hopelessly hooked by like the next to last episode. At the beginning I'll admit I was a bit skeptical, since I have really seen a lot of very shitty TV shows (If I see another reality show, I'll puke!). This season just escalated it all to the stratosphere, and there's no turning back now!! Who would imagine a television program would bring all of us really cool BB viewers from everywhere and all walks of life together! Rock on BB!!
Totally! Remember Krazy-8 telling him that he worked in his dad's furniture store and probably met Mr. White as a kid? Walt even made a pros and cons list about whether or not he should kill him. I remember that look of realization that came over his face about the missing jagged edge of the plate. He went from being a mild-mannered Chemistry teacher to a killer in that moment, I will never look at a Kryptonite bike lock the same way again!
That's the power of Breaking Bad, bigfreakinnaz! It brings people together because it's so addictive. I agree with you that there's mostly nothing but crap on tv, and it still amazes me that there's a show as good as BB, and on a free channel no less!
Slygirl-Yeah I know! It was almost sad when Walt realized he met Krazy-8 as a kid. Small world. I could literally feel Walt's pain over not wanting to kill him, but knowing he had no choice. You could see the conflict in his face. That made for some of the best tv I've ever seen!
I just read Hank's blog, and when he hinted at Walter, he said "The guy shares his name with Harvey Keitel's character in a certain Tarantino movie"! I just watched Reservoir Dogs the other night on Bravo. One of the best lines is when Michael Madsen says "I don't like alarms, Mr. White!" It would be cool if Jesse said that at some point on BB! XD
Aaron Nice take on Walt possibly grooming Junior as a cook. I'd have never thought of that! I think Junior has his brains (unlike Jesse), though I think Jesse will end up being Walt's heir to his meth business, not Junior.
Yes, Walt was born to be in the drug field, but he could've gone into legal pharmaceuticals like research or development rather than meth! LOL!! He still would've made pretty good $$ (I think).
Nice insights!
It's all a dream. He wakes up face down at the car wash after living an entire life while unconscious for 5 minutes. Didn't STNG have a great episode like that? Why not extend that concept to a 3 season series?
Oh god, LOL hisenbaker. Now they can't use the it was all a dream conclusion. From everyone's recollections, it pretty much sounds like every series in television copped out with that kind of series-ending finale. LOL
Those body bags :)... they could have Hank in them... he would be about a 2 bagger
My goodness looks like we will be making over 400 posts before the next episode..
so since the spolier is out about what Jane does to Jesse.....
is it meth ?? or does he go the other direction??
some of that cartel tar perhaps?
jamm...LOL! OK, then...how about it all, just being a hallucination??? =) Ha ha!
zia...LMAO! Have fun wearing your BB shirt, while visiting the museum!
Careful, you might start a riot, by asking for the "P*$$y Pictures!" Bwa ha ha ha!! >=)
James26 did you used to go by the username "Sir Smokes A Lot"? Something about your style of posting, seems familiar.
Not to be nosy, but, when you posted that you're from Michigan...it got me wondering... =)
mikebiff2325 ..."They" might be snickering at us now...
But, will be roaring with laughter, when we all freak out, after finding, this whole show was really created, by the DEA...
And...EVERY one, of our posts are, currently being monitored, recorded & filed away. ;)
I feel a crack-down, coming on!!! =O
KIDDING!!! Just kidding!!
While that was all in fun...it does make me curious, though...wonder how many DEA agents are fans of Breaking Bad??? =\ Hmmmmmm...
Last scene of episode 3/13. Walter slowly sits up. A smear of drool coagulated on the side of his face. The russian owner of the car wash has a worried expression from this low camera angle. Then the camera pans across crowd of concerned onlookers including Jesse, Krazy-8, Saul, Jane , Tuco, Tortuga, the Cowardly Lion and the Tin Man, etc. "How long was I out?" he says.
Sorry for the spoiler, but isn't the Wizard of Oz the only way out of this mess?
Good one! LOL. Was Walt the Cowardly Lion?
Walt would actually be Dorothy in a classic interpretation, but I don't think there are any set rule s. So sure, Cowardly Lion it is.
scarecrow ?
Too many posts I know. Jesse is Scarecrow. Saul is Cowardly Lion. We won't get to see who the Tin Man is until early next season. Haven't they even used the term "Munchkins" for the people Jesse paid to get Psuedo?
I can't remember what was missing in the 3 characters:
Lion - courage?
Scarecrow - heart?
Tin Man - brain?
This show CAN'T end as a long dream sequence. If they did end the show like that, then they wouldn't be able to make "Breaking Bad: The Movie" once the series is over. Well, one can only hope. LOL.
Oh, and P.S., there is no way Walt is going to teach Junior how to cook.
In this week's TV Guide for May 18-31, they have a paragraph on the Season Finale. It doesn't sound good for any of the characters, especially Jesse.
About his character, Jesse, Aaron Paul is quoted as saying:
"Jesse has no interest in getting sober - he doesn't believe he has a serious problem. He's OK with the life he's living, and he doesn't want to change that."
How long until Walt tells Jesse "I don't need you anymore"? Their entire business agreement was for Walt to cook and Jesse to get rid of it. If they get a "high volume distributor" through Saul, what does Walt need Jesse for? Especially if Jesse's drug use gets much worse. Walt could cook by himself. Serious trouble could be brewing between those two if Jesse becomes undependable.
Very true Mike. Even though Walt is brutally loyal and trusts Jessie there has been lots of problems that Walt has had to clean up on his account. I expect there will finally be a breaking point of that loyalty when Jessie gives up and wants to hang with the Jane and smoke up rather than work.
Well, if the entire series ends in a dream with him waking up in the carwash, or any other place for that matter, I stand behind my DVD burning of a show ruined and my faith in hollywood ruined.
I will invite you all to partake in a DVD burning ceremony.
My thoughts were that just the opening sequences with the pink toy and the bodybags were a reoccurring nightmare Walt is having. Not the whole series.
And who is to say it will end at S3E13 guys. Have a little faith that they will be renewed for S4. We could be on the edge of our seats for a few years to come.