I watched the sneak peak and I have to say, I'm really interested to see what happens with Jesse. To me, he is the most intriguing character on the show. Watching him deal with the possibility of homelessness last week was heartbreaking.
Just a guess - the landlord will become a love interest. Frankly, I'm excited for Jesse. I think he needs something like to this to experience some sort of rebirth, like Walt, only in a different direction. He's obviously a smart, talented and good person, he just hasn't made the right choices. His potential just makes him so damn likeable.

I just want to know how the loose end with Clovis is going to play out. You know he's not going to letJesse or badger slide on account of the Winnebago.

Hank's little panic attack in the elevator nearly gave me a panic attack! He talks a big game, but he's starting to fall to pieces. I wonder if he will survive his promotion!

Hanks panic attack?? I am almost sure he had a small heart attack, no?

i have watched a few shows about meth and this is by far the best i have ever watched.

The show went completely on steroids! Love it! Haven't been into episodic television in a very long time. It's refreshing to have a great show to be into again.

Anyway...

...first-off, I wonder if the two "border-jumpers" in the opening shot (finding Tuco's grill on the shoreline) know Tuco - maybe part of a Mexican Cartel. And speaking of which, I'm hoping the plot-line of the show will relate to current events and what's happening with U.S. relations to Mexico with the ongoing violence related to the drug-cartels.

It's awesome that Walt and Jesse are starting their own syndicate. Jesse's going to have to give up a lot of his "soul" though, so to speak, to step up and take street-control of their distribution.

"DBAA" - that made me laugh out loud. Especially when he turns around and uses it on his dealer "friends" at the end of their tete-a-tete.

It was hard to tell if it was a panic attack or a heart attack...but with a heart attack, he would have gone to the hospital, right?

Yeah, it could have been a heart attack, but would he have shaken off something that serious? I got the impression that he was also claustrophobic being in the elevator.

I think he's just jumpy in general,

I'm starting to have a really had time feeling sympathy for Walt. He started all this to make things easier when he's gone but things seem to be playing out pretty much the opposite. This thing is seems to be hurting everyone around Walt rather than helping. Already Jesse, Sky, Hank messed up and hurt with a whole lot of who knows who's next.

There just isn't enough money -- Money isn't everything -- to heal the human damage.

Perhaps there will be big stacks of cash left when its over but as things are rolling now there won't be anyone left to use it.

Couple random things
~I'm NOT happy about Walt pushing Jesse to the gun. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!
~The junkie chick who ripped off pete was SCARY!
~Jesse called him WALT. Thats a big deal I think.

A heart attack, at that moment in time was not "convenient" just seems like a macho guy in denial and since it passed before the elevator opened - why not just go one as if it didn't happen, happens every day across America.

My favorite quote: "feng shui yo, I can dig it."
Jesse's friends are definately the comic relief in this episode.

Hank definately has some PTSD going on. What's sad is that it's Walt's fault, indirectly.

I like the way Jesse started taking charge.

I don't get the wets finding Tuco's grill in the beginning, unless that was down at El Paso that Hank throws it in.. wets don't wade across the Rio in Abq. .. they use the bridges :) and no way it could get all the way down the Rio from Abq.

and the gun thing.. what does Walt want.. Jesse to become Tuco??

How many more episodes till Walt Jr. aka Flynn and Louis get busted with some "Blue" meth ;-)

Thats what I'm saying greentealeaves and zia...

Its getting more and more difficult to feel for Walt when Hanks problem (lets not forget the hail of Tuco bullets that could have taken him out) and Jesse being pushed to become a sort of Tuco is the cost of his trying to make things better easier when he's gone.

The cost is way too high

I was the one who almost had the heart attack after seeing that NASTY, UGLY junkie bitch that led Skinny Pete in to that "ambush"! Egad, she was scary!!!

What exactly does DBAA stand for??

I don't think Jesse knew either and that repeat on his "boys" was hillarious.

Actually in his conversation with the landlord girl, she mentions it very quickly: "Don't be an asshole". But it is funny.....

Walt took the gun from Jesse to protect his family and now he's simply giving it back. The gun does belong to Jesse. But the exchange feels ominous.

but when Walt gives Jesse the gun at the end... doesn't he say "Take care of it" .. I don't think he is refering to the gun ;-)

That's Hank's job, it come with the territory. He does have some nice digs.. I don't think it's up by the Tram, though it might be.. Looks to be more of the multi-milliion dollar area over by La Luz trail.
Not quite the right income area .. but hey ;-)

As far as Walt's actions, well the guy's on Chemo , like he said to the shrink... now how could I be under any stress ;-)

Pretty sure it was a anxiety attack he had, not a stroke or a heart arttack .. his speech wasn't messed up.

the cost is too high.. but Jesse isn't a killer.. maybe

nice list of the future shows on IMDB... love the titles

Hmm... Major highlights of S02E05 is mainly two things.
- Hank & his job.
- Jesse & his new role.

Some have said here that Hank maybe has PTSD. I was thinking that there was a chance it may be from Tuco's Ricin somehow.. did that disappear from the picture?

I took a brief look around and it seems that after being poisoned with Ricin, the symptoms get progressively worse, they may not necessarily come and go.......

I believe Walter Sr. will become the next Tuco. He has already killed with his bare hands, and his chemistry. He needs his money and also feels that the rip-off by the scary woman and man is disrespect. It is not in Jesse to rise to the level of ruthlessness that is required to deal with these people. Walter will take the next step. I think this is foreshadowed by Hank talking about the Heisenberg urban myth.

I thought they emptied the bag of rician laced meth on the burrito that got dumped on the floor.

episode was crazy.. man next episode will be intense i bet just like episode 2 or something leading up to something big man i love this show

Hank got more than he bargained for by killing Tuco. For the most part Hank is a good DEA agent, but this promotion is way above his head and he is somewhat of a clown out in the field. I think even he knows that. Hence, his panic attack.

Good to see Jesse come up with a plan. Although there is major risk dealing with all the loose tentacles the street has to offer and the guys he has working for him don't seem to be the brightest bulbs, but do have the connections to get it done. Having that skanky meth head rip off skinny Pete is only the beginning. Once word on the street gets out that happened then it will begin to happen with impunity.

I can't believe that Walt is actually wanting Jesse to "Deal with the problem" in the way he wants it done, but I think he is trying to prove a point to Jesse by saying.." You wanted to be Tuco, then you got it, including having to deal with the street scum that rips you off"

Skyler is truly bugging the shit out of me now.

Not sure if they are done with Clovis' storyline regarding the storage of the RV on his lot. Then again he is getting $2000 grand a month so that should keep him happy for now.

Jesse's landlord is hot!

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT VINCE!!!!!! Back to the streets selling!!! "Stacks sky high yo'." "You asked me how I want you to handle it."

Jesse's really becoming hardened courtesy of Walt's insistence that he handle things. Basically getting handy training to be a killer for the day when the Juarez boys come back to town to reclaim their territory and exact revenge for Tuco. Jesse was just a goodtime Charlie type of dealer - I hate what's happening to him.

Walt's rationale for using strong-arm tactics (guns and I suppose death threats to would be meth holdups) just blows my mind. He acts like he's talking about corporate politics/behavior, and that a life/death option in their dealings is not a sickening prospect. If Walt really listened to himself, he'd realize he's become completely amoral. It's creepy to hear him preach to Skyler about smoking or parenting considering what he's been doing.

Mostly what struck me is how damaged everyone is becoming by their experiences. Walt is degenerating into this weird Jekyll/Hyde type and every once in a while the Hyde part of him shows up in family interactions; Skyler is really becoming Ms. Freezer; Hank is disintegrating into fearfulness; Marie is getting worse; and Jesse is morphing into a killer.

Each character is suffering from their own individual form of post traumatic stress disorder. Jesse's term breakage (for losing some meth in their dealings) is apt for what these characters are losing in their souls.

Pamela, I agree with your observations; Walt is becoming less likeable and the cost to Jesse IS too high. Jesse didn't really want anything to do with this whole deal, except Walt threatened to turn him in if he wouldn't go along with the plan way back in Season 1.

And yeah, the junkie woman in the alley looked like a scene from a horror movie with that cackle and the full-blow meth addict physical signs.

Here in the Northwest, a couple of years ago one of the local TV stations did a special on meth addiction. They showed photos of people before and after they'd gotten hooked. The transformation was astounding.

Skyler and Marie . . . those two ladies appear to be cut from the same piece of cloth. Both messed up. I thought Hank was having a heart attack at first, too, but it was a panic attack. He recovered too quickly. In fact, I've read that people who experience panic attacks sometimes worry that it's their heart. And his reaction in the scene at the end with the exploding beer bottles really points to PTSD, I think.

Ok, once again the writers did great with this script. After Hank got his promotion, I thought he was having a heart attack, but it was just one of those old fashioned panic/anxiety attacks, which I bet is pretty common in his line of work. I am getting a little sick of Skylar and her self-righteous crap with her sister, Okay her sister messed up but Skylar is out of hand, at least her sister did do a half hearted apology. I was confused at the end when Walt gave Jesse the gun, at first I thought does he want Jesse to shoot him (to take him out of his misery, chemo, bills, etc.!!??), then I figured he just wanted Jesse to MAN UP and take care of the tweakers who ripped them off, oh but I don't think Jesse has it in him to actually kill someone, but ya never know a person once their pushed to their limits, right???!! More will be revealed, fans, it's all good, can hardly wait til next week!

Did Jesse really aspire to be Tuco? I didn't really get the impression that Jesse was ever that ambitious - it was Walt who wanted bigger money and more, more, more. Jesse seemed to be the lazy type who was happy to coast along, buy his toys, have some play money, and not be stuck in the 9-to-5 rut.

Tuco's grille getting in the hands of the illegal aliens? There's a reason for that, I think - somehow it'll be shown to the Tuco relatives which will enrage them even more....

I thought the woman in the meth holdup was Windy Wendy (my eyesight isn't too swift).

I agree with RCH2288 that Hank was panicking over his promotion. If he's out in the field more, he'll be exposed to more danger. I got the impression that Hank was more of a desk jockey issuing commands but not really being out there like the agents under him.

I did a spelling error on last transmission. "ya never know a person once THEY'RE pushed to THEIR limits, right??" Sorry for the infraction!

did anyone notice jesse's reaction to the garbage disposal in his new apt? I thought it might be a tongue-in-cheek reference to the hand-down-the-garbage-disposal scene in "last house on the left"

One last thought for the week--I hope Vince Gilligan doesn't let the humor slip away from the show. We've had a couple of pretty grim episodes. I know Jesse falling through the roof of the port-a-potty could have been considered funny, but by the time it happened, he'd been through so much I just felt bad for him.

Remember the opening episodes last season? Here was a man in the middle of the desert, wearing a green shirt and his underwear, holding a gun, in tears while he's trying to leave a video message about himself. It was tragic, but it was hilarious too. (There was just a bit of Hal in there when he used to get so wound up on Malcolm.) Just a couple of those moments now and then would be great!

Is ATF (Alcohol Tobacco Firearms) defunct? Did ATF change its name to DEA? Just curious....

Good episode. It is getting exciting again. It gives us something to look forward to for the next episode again. I can't wait to see how Jesse handles the "breakage" problem. And the preview looks like the rich wife Gretchen (and Elliot) find out they are in the middle of a lie. So Walt is going to have to explain where the money is coming from. I'm sure he has his bases covered somehow, surely knowing that Skyler would eventually see the couple again and it would come out. Or maybe that is something so simple that he overlooked it.

The good news from E5 was that we found out Skyler hasn't made a regular habit of smoking. After 3 1/2 ciggs she felt guilty and stupidly flushed them (stupid in clogging the toilet factor). That should make a lot of people happy that she wasn't smoking during pregnancy on a regular basis.

Hank....oh my gosh, he doesn't like tight places and is claustrophobic. No wonder he always says "I'll meet you down stairs." I have a feeling that is going to play out later in the series somehow, with him being put in a trunk himself or buried alive. He'll freeze up like Superman with kryptonite. Also, throwing the grille and just the way Hank was acting otherwise, jumping out of bed at night, just shows he is human too and has a lot of guilt and nightmares about the incident.

Good show... flowed nicely. I loved how Walt put Jesse on the spot to deal with the "breakage." Love it. The preview clip on here of Jesse talking to his underling dealer is good too. You can sense that Jesse doesn't want to do it but knows he has to step up.

Could they make it anymore annoying with that woman giggling like an asshole when she trapped the dealer to get robbed? Those two junkies did some excellent acting themselves. Everyone is good on this show.

Pamala> You know I've always been about Walt, but I agree...I'm not liking him much these days! Also, Jesse calling Walt by his first name means that Jesse wants more control over the situation.

RCH2288> You've heard of the Peter Principle? People are promoted up to their level of incompetence. It happens in work environments everywhere and it just happened to Hank. He has some marketable skills (identifying trap cars) and can talk smack, but he has been seriously rattled after shooting Tuco. He realizes that it could very easily have gone bad. Now, instead of a single person, he'll be in contact with a cartel and they don't play games.

Jamm54> Lots of really good observations. Remember the little exchange between Walt and Jesse when the term "breakage" is explained and Walt calls it "a non-sustainable business model"? Damn, Mr. Walking Textbook! Those words don't get you far!! Also griping at Skyler for her food and health choices? You can tell Skyler really doesn't like eating the unhealthy food, but it is yet another passive-aggressive tactic. As far as Jesse becoming Tuco, I don't know that it was something he planned on, but he's been forced into the situation. I don't think he's thought it through completely, but he does have some street skills even if they're not very polished. I don't see him ever becoming as evil as Tuco, though. As far as I know the ATF still exists and is a separate entity from the DEA. ATF is the older organization and many of their duties criss-cross.

Boy, Walt sure is getting a tad 'cranky' (pardon the pun!).

And what to make of Hank? First the panic attack (notice he grabbed his leg in the elevator?), the fact that he was pretty F***ed up when talking to Walt Jr. about it and then tossing his 'trophy' into the river. For being such a tough guy, maybe he's never actually shot anyone before. A bit of 'shooters remorse perhaps?

Alexis - thanks for the tip on logging in.

Great Episode and good comments so far.

I don't think the guys crossing the river would be Tuco's cousins. If they are similar to Tuco and connected in the drug world, they probably have the means to cross the border not by foot. I wouldn't doubt that the grill will get back to the cousins though which will leave some retribution for Hank.

I don't think that Walt pushed Jesse into becoming a Tuco like figure, Jesse made that decision himself. Walt laid out his two ideas, which were hooking up with a psycho or Jesse goes out and slings the crystal. It was Jesse who wanted to set up his own network. Jesse set himself on this path however Walt is pushing him down further especially with the "Handle it" comment.

The best show on T.V., no other show is even close. Last night BB delivered another great hour of television, and the lead actor didn't have a clue on what the hell was going on.
Because of that very fact, this season is much better than the brilliant first season, and I'll give you 3 reasons why. #1) The peripheral characters are getting stronger (Jesse, Skylar) and some are getting weaker, (Hank). That equals a much more compelling hour of T.V., and Sunday night was the perfect example of that. How many shows fill the hour with fluff, consisting of chase scenes in cars, and lets see how many bullets we can let fly in this episode. Not Breaking Bad. No way.
First there is Jesse (Aaron Paul) standing up to Walt (Bryan Cranston) where he dictated the action and told the PHD Chemist how it's going to be. Didn't you love it when Jesse replied to Walt's two idea plan, "There's a third way. We've got to be Tuco. Cut out the middle man. Run our own game...we control production and distribution." Walt replies, "I'm not willing to do that." Jesse responds, "Who said anything about you?" "You need me more than I need you, WALT." Huge turning point in this relationship. Jesse is seeing where he fits into this partnership, and he realizes he is a vital key for it's success.
Then there is Skylar. Reading a book. Doesn't want to be bothered, and Walt comes in and starts questioning her about her choice of food. You knew this was not going to end well. And we were right. Of course big tough Walt confronts her about the cigs. I see this relationship heading south, and fast. Maybe this is a clue why there might have been an explosion at the White residence, (burnt bear, evidence around pool), Skylar has moved out.
Then there is Hank. Definitely having issues with shooting Tuco. He is tough on the outside, but lot's of doubts on the inside.
froggie_clear. My wife and I both commented on that very issue from the scene in Last House, thinking that was why he jumped so. lol Nice observation.
Pamela: I to am seeing Walt in a less accepting way as he continues to morph into this very unappealing character, while I like Jesse more and more. He is so doggone endearing even though he has made so many bad choices. Peekaboo will be an intense Jesse show I believe We will learn many more things about this young man.
Can't wait till next week!

First, I owe skottey an apology! I guess I was totally wrong about how the DEA's gonna look at Hank with them giving him that promotion. Looks like that nearly fatal run-in with Tuco really blew his head! I imagine that going through a situation like he did would traumatize anybody, regardless if your a DEA agent or not.

Marie's lucky she didn't get her head blown off by Hank in the garage when the beer bottles were exploding! What a dumb ass! What was she doing anyway? Trying to catch a possible intruder?

Jesse and his boys screwed up big-time by not having some sort of backup plan in place just in case some junkies try to get cute and pull some sort of shit like what happened to Pete, which they should have known was bound to happen. That little "breakage" predicament just goes to show several things: (1) These boys are just a bit too naive to be going out and mixing it in the dangerous world of dope dealing. (2) If you are stupid enough to be a drug dealer, you'll have to keep it in the back of your head that you might have to kill somebody someday, or get killed yourself. (3) Word WILL spread around how much Jesse and his boys are wimps, and can be rolled real easy. (4) You're gonna have to have a plan when the DEA starts coming after you.

Pete really screwed up that situation with the junkies rolling him. He could have got out of that by easily kicking that guy's ass, knocking his knife out of his hand, or by doing something to give the message "Don't mess with us".

I found the brewing in the garage ironic. Check it out. Hank and Walt, are both cooking, chemically speaking. They are basically doing the same thing. They both are using everyday materials to create mind altering substances, Walt's of course is illegal, and Hank's is something that many people do all the time. I find this very interesting..................the parallels.

You know, the difference between Walt and Hank is startling. Walt strangled Crazy 8 in a basement in a way that to me was more horrific than simply shooting him. Then he presumably dissolved the corpse in hydrofloric acid, and dumped it down a drain. He's not having panic attacks though.

Hank is defending himself and kills Tuco, and I think he really feels bad about it. Even though the guy was shooting at him with a machine gun. Certainly he found the grill to be in poor taste, even though he'd never admit it in front of the guys.

Normally, you would probably think the tough guy was Hank and the squemish academic type would be Walt, but Walt seems much more cold blooded.

Fellow forum contributors and readers-

I love this forum but sometimes I am amazed at other people's take on things. I posted earlier before I left this AM but hadn't read any other comments. Two things I am surprised by.

1- heart attack. Yes, for the first second or two my wife and I thought Hank was having a heart attack, but we quickly realized he was having a panic attack, he is claustrophobic. He is also very upset about the Tuco incident and that is why he "took a day" and settled into one of his favorite hobbies, home brewing and bottling. It is an art, an escape. He also got pretty drunk when Walt and the family were there for the cookout, unable to answer the question by Walt as to how people come to be so criminal, answering, "I have to go take a piss." He was jumpy all episode and freaked out when the beer bottles blew up, thinking it was a gun. He was so upset he had to get that grille off his desk, and yes, that would have been the El Paso area where he threw the grille. Remember, he got the promotion and was spending his time between places. He was down there for work and ditched the grille, in Texas, far away from where he shot Tuco.

2- I thought it was pretty obvious that Walt wanted Jesse to take care of the "breakage" before it gets out of hand. It was both implied and said that he cannot allow that to happen because once word gets out on the street that Jesse's group are soft, they'd be rolled right over. He basically asked Jesse to take care of it. He then later gave him the gun for the purpose of taking care of the breakage. Some of you implied it was Jesse's gun and he was just giving him the gun back. No, no, no... it couldn't have been any more obvious that he wants Jesse to kill the giggling whore and the guy that robbed the dealer at knife point. They cannot just let such a thing happen.

I don't mean to be a jerk but some of this stuff is just downright obvious. "He was giving Jesse the gun back, it is Jesse's gun." My gosh, this episode screamed in your face that Walt wants Jesse to go kill the thief and not let this sort of thing happen and Jesse realized it needs to be done too. They want to be tough in the community, they cannot allow that to just happen.

Don't believe me? This AM they put up a preview clip in the video section. It is Jesse talking to his drug pal, getting information about the thief. You can see it in Jesse's face that he doesn't want to do it, but he knows for himself, Walt, and their partnership, that he needs to take care of the problem.

Whether Jesse succeeds or Walt has to step in, somebody is going to be killed in the next episode, and it will probably be the guy that robbed the dealer at knife point.

This show is a masterpiece. This is that gem of a show that doesn't get enough credit by the mainstream and is written, cast, and produced so well. We get a show like this maybe every 2-10 years. Of all the shows on TV, it is becoming more and more of a rarity. I know, I know, some of you aren't the type to watch a movie or show more than once. But this show is both an action show for the broader audience and a thinking man's show. Most shows can't be both, but this one has pulled it off. You could just watch this one and not put a lot of thought into it and enjoy it in your own way, like a sporting event or one of the many less intelligent shows, or you can analyze it and enjoy it for the depth that it carries. To fully understand the depth to this show, I recommend even the most observant of you "thinking" viewers to re-watch each episode at least once. If you are just in it for the action and it is just another show in your "what's on tonight?" slate, than you may not need to re-watch. But I have a feeling that most people who actually come to this forum and post care enough about the show and view it as a "thinking man's show." You put a lot of thought into what has happened, is happening, and what is to come. You look forward to this show each week. For me, I feel that rare excitement on Friday that it is the weekend and my show is almost on. Sunday comes and all day I keep thinking about "my show is on tonight." As the evening approaches, I keep an eye on the clock and while it DVRs from 10-11, I totally get filled with anticipation of going in there to sit down with my wife sometime between 11:30 and 12, escaping into the world of Breaking Bad. I don't feel this way about many shows very often. We sit down with the lights off, make sure the 14 month old is asleep and not making noise, I adjust the aspect ration on my HDTV so the black border is gone (I don't have AMC HD so it is the SD feed, which has black bars all around unless zoomed upon). I zone in on the show and really put some thought into it. My wife and I sit quiet until it is over. I then go back, usually Monday, but sometimes not until later in the week if I am busy, and I'll watch the episode at least one more time.

I also spend a lot of time telling people about the show, letting them borrow my Season 1 DVD set in some cases, trying to give them a piece of something I feel so fortunate to have found.

Yes, it is just a show, but Breaking Bad is more than just a show! It is a mix of fantastic writing, casting, acting, producing, etc. Everything about this show is such a rarity these days. I look forward to it and I love it.

Two things come to mind after last night's episode.

(1) Hank's behavior, which everyone seems to be attributing to his run-in with Tuco seems out of character to me. My thought all last night wasn't that he's traumatized by the shootout, rather, I think that Hank has figured it out. He knows Walt is involved and is now in the uncomfortable situation of having to either act on it -- arrest Walt and break up his family -- or sweep it under the rug. Hank is between a rock and a hard place here. Accepting the promotion was perfect, as it will get him away from Walt and the immediate investigation in Albuquerque. His immediate departure when Walt asks how people like Tuco get the way they are (under the pretext that he had to piss) also seems to confirm that Hank knows more than he's letting on.

(2) I echo Alexis' sentiments above that the this show is morphing away from the brilliant balance of drama and dark humor that characterized the first season, and more into a straight drama. It's still good drama, but it was that balance that made this show so unique during the first season. I sincerely hope the writers can get back on track and re-establish that balance, as the show is much better as a drama / dark comedy than as simply a straight drama.

To paulws: The big difference between Hank and Walt having to kill those guys was if Walt DID NOT kill Crazy 8 and just simply let him go, Crazy 8 would've killed him AND possibly killed his family and Jesse too. Walt thought it all out and was pretty much mentally ready to do it. Now with Hank, here you have him simply pulling up to Tio's shack out in the middle of nowhere, seeing Jesse's car and expecting to see Jesse, and hoping to find the whereabouts of his lost brother-in-law, but instead ending up in a sudden do or die gunfight with an insane, notorious drug czar that half the DEA happens to be looking for! How would a person have time to get mentally ready for something like that?

To john in portland: Do you really think that Hank has it all figured out? No, I don't think so! If he did, first of all that would signify the beginning of the end of the show, which isn't gonna happen, and second, don't you think he'd first take Walt aside in private and tell him "Uhhh, look Walt, we figured out what you're doing, better stop it all right now so I won't be put in a position to have to arrest you."?

john in portland-

what specifically leads you to believe Hank is catching onto Walt? I've yet to see anything that points to such a conclusion (not yet anyway). Is there something specific you picked up on?

Sure, it seems out of character that Hank is traumatized. We have grown to view him as a tough guy, a hard ass, and he portrays himself as such. They are showing us that Hank is human on the inside. Under all that tough guy, there is a real man with feelings. He wants to be seen as the tough guy that enjoys killing and busting up bad guys, yet in moments like the elevator, dark man cave, or ditching the grille, you can read it in his face that he is dealing with the issues internally. I think they are doing a wonderful job laying out this humanistic side of Hank.

We are also seeing just the opposite with Walt. On the outside (as viewed by family and friends), Walt comes across as a real swell guy who wouldn't hurt a fly. But inside, Walt has it in him to not just kill, but move forward in life without feeling too much remorse. Illegally killing for Walt is less emotionally tearing him up on the inside, while he displays an innocent persona to his family and friends. Hank killed a man, arguably part of his job to get Tuco, and he is emotionally torn apart on the inside, while he presents a tough guy persona to his family, friends, and co-workers. It is as if they are both opposite of each other, and opposite amongst themselves as to who they really are and who they show themselves to be. This is great writing!

I cannot believe you feel the show is losing something. I actually think it is getting more brilliant. Watching season one for the second and third times, I sat through the DVD set and watched all 7 episodes back to back, and it flowed together so nicely, as opposed to watching it with days or a week in between during the original airing. I would love to just sit and watch the whole season 2, as opposed to the waiting in between weeks. This is something I will surely do when the DVD set of season 2 comes out. Watching it in such a way will flow so much more nicely. Heck, I may just watch season 1 and season 2 in a row over a weekend for the most possibly enjoyment.

Anybody else think the show is losing it's magic? I say no way, it is maturing and will all come together. It's brilliant.

Great show. I missed the last episode on April 5. Any way or anywhere I can download and watch it?

skottey - but remember, back when, it was Hank that said he didn't want any violence involved. He was dead set against it.

Now - he's all for the money.

gopher78 - Are you on Comcast? If so, it's on 'On Demand'. Hit that button on top, go to "TV Series" then "Breaking Bad" and scroll down to the one you want to watch. Then hit "Enter" -- bang, you're on your way.

skottey - I meant Walt, not Hank.

I still think of him as Hal on Malcolm In The Middle. They both start with 'H' ... nevermind.

Unforgiven said"

skottey - but remember, back when, it was Hank that said he didn't want any violence involved. He was dead set against it. Now - he's all for the money."

You meant Walt, not Hank, but I understand what you are saying.

Yes, Walt is morphing into a totally different person. He is totally focused on the money for his family at any cost. Remember, he said that he stood by and watched his peers pass him in every possible way, including money. With only a year, two tops, to live, Walt is going to accomplish something if it kills him (which it will either way, cancer or death by occupation). He didn't want violence, but that comes with the illegal drug trade industry.

It's gettin' good.... real good.. great show!

I think there may be something to the theory that Hank knows or suspects more than is being demonstrated at this point. There would have been a lot of evidence at that shack where Tuco and Hank became acquainted to suggest that others were there. Hank isn't an incompetent boob and neither is the rest of the Albuquerque DEA so somebody had to cleanup the scene before the cavalry arrived. Walt needed a new cell phone after getting out of the hospital. Wonder where he lost it? Even Skylar thinks Walt's story was BS so why wouldn't Hank? She made the sarcastic remark about maybe smoking the cigarettes while in a "fugue" state last night. Maybe looking at his trophy caused Hank to ponder things he doesn't want to. But maybe I'm over thinking it.

Now that I watch it again I'm seeing Jesse come into his own. He's starting to run a real organization. The way he is dealing with his runners. Making 'blind drops' and all. It's Walt that's trying to push things to the limit. Jesse is finally waking up. Maybe the drop in the Honey Bucket finally opened his eyes. LOL!

jimanaz-

Hank was part of the crime scene and he himself, after shooting Tuco, wouldn't be the one out searching the area. He would have been shaken up after killing Tuco and immediately on the phone with his office. They would have investigated the area, but it wouldn't have been Hank searching the area containing Walt's cellphone and second cellphone, to which he had both on him. Hank would have been whisked away and peopled trained in forensics evidence would have been searching the area.

Having that said, it isn't entirely impossibly that another person or persons in the DEA office is onto Walt. That could be part of the reasoning behind the promotion of Hank. He is after all being transferred 50 percent of his time to the El Paso office. He'll be out of the way. They wouldn't want Hank investigating his own family member for obvious reasons. It is possibly they are working around him, and I believe more likey than the theory that Hank is currently onto Walt. I believe he has no clue.

As far as Walt losing his cell phone and having to get another one after he got out of the hospital, there is absolutely nothing unique or red flag raising about that. People lose their cell phones all the time and if Walt had really experienced the lie he is trying to pull off, it would be very likely that he'd have lost his cell phone. That part just plays right into what he tried to trick people into believing.

As far as Skyler's "fugue" state comment, that doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't believe he was in such a state. We all assume she doesn't believe him by her actions, but her actions could possibly be the result of a very emotional pregnant woman who is going to lose her husband to cancer. She is dealing with a lot of uncertainty as to what her future holds with the kids and no husband. It is feasible that she is just torn up about Walt and the cancer and believes he was in a "fugue" state and that is just one more thing she has to deal with. What next? It may have been more of a mockery about "what next, can it get any worse?" as opposed to "you liar, I know you are lying about where you were and I'll play the same game about the smoking." We are all assuming Skyler is just a bitch and is onto Walt, and it certainly looks that way, but I wouldn't be surprised if they might just be leading us down that road of belief, only to turn everything upside down for the viewer as far as Skyler's thoughts and feelings.

this episode was great because the humor returned.
my favorite lines from this episode comes from the scene when jesse wants to cook again

Jesse: I've got bills.
Walt: YOU'VE got bills?!
Jesse: Yeah, responsibilities, yo.

and the later in the scene when Jesse says he want to be the Tuco

Jesse: We can cut out the middle man and we can be the Tuco
Walt: Really? So you're going to snort meth from a buoy knife? Beat your homies to death?

I don't know if it was meant to be funny but it cracked me up.

Walt Jr. is up to something & I want to know what it is. He's not home ALOT all of a sudden or maybe we're just now realizing he was never home alot.

john in portland, and alex: We must be watching different shows. Season 2 has much more depth, many more story liines than season one. Season one you could call "The Walter White Show". This year there is such depth, richness, and amazing story lines one wishes the show wouldn't end. Last night I was shocked that the show was over so fast. I and all that watched it with us felt the same.

this episode was great because it brought back the humor.
The scene in the RV where Jesse & Walt decide to cook

Jesse: I've got bills, yo.
Walt: YOU have bills?!
Jesse: Yes bills. You know responsibilities, yo.

and when Jesse wants to be the Tuco of the operation

Jesse: We can cut out the middleman and we can be Tuco.
Walt: Really? So you're gonna snort meth from a buoy knife and beat your homies to death?!

The sarcasm in Walt's voice had me cracking up.

Also, Walt. Jr. is up to SOMETHING and I want to know what it is.

oops! sorry for the double post.

"You need me more than I need you... Walt." Whoa! Did we just see the tables turn? That was unbelievable. Jesse just flipped the script and tore Walt's control from his grip. I expected Jesse to stand up for himself, but I didn't expect that. Still, we are watching Walt dig his own grave by telling Jesse to "handle it".

My sympathy is starting to loosen for both of them. We are watching them not only break bad, but destroy the humanity they had. Jesse is going to get more than he bargained for. He is not Scarface, however Walt could be. He has those deep reaching thoughts that go beyond the immediate. It seems to me the further he alienates himself from Skyler the more he will bond with Jesse.

Hank obviously thought he was Elliot Ness, but comes up short (of breath) when by himself. Death may come to us all, but I wouldn't want to be the one to take it from someone else and obviously neither did Hank.

Thought provoking stuff. Aaron Paul is giving Bryan Cranston a run for his money this season. Its like I'm holding my breath all week just to see the next episode.

Well I suppose it's all conjecture skotty and there's little sense in debating it because we're all gonna have to wait to see how it plays out. But I just can't resist......
Tuco's shooting took place out in the middle of nowhere and I suppose Hank's initial reaction after making sure no one else was going to start shooting at him and gathering himself would have been to phone his office. What did he do while waiting for them to arrive? I doubt that he sat in the shot up remains of his SUV. Maybe he wondered why Tuco was already bloody when he drove up and what besides an assault rifle was in Jesse's car. What's inside the shack? I've never been involved in a gun battle or shot anyone but I don't think it would take too long to start wondering how the whole thing unfolded.....especially when the car you were looking for was there and you are wondering what your BIL's ties to this might be.
Just sayin'.....

Skottey, I just wanted to say how much I always enjoy your long, insightful posts about the show. I agree with everything you say, and I'm as passionate about the show as you. I just wish I could put it into words as well as you, lol. I always watch the replays of the show on the same night that it premieres. I always catch something I missed the first or second time. You're right, a show like this doesn't come along very often, but when it does, it needs to be greatly appreciated for the art that it is!

Noah-I thought the exact same thing about both Walter and Hank cooking different addictive substances, one legal and one illegal. Interesting parallel there.

I loved how this episode showed us the human side of Hank. It showed us that he can be vulnerable, and not just the big, arrogant windbag that most people see him as. It's obvious that he's haunted by killing Tuco, and the grille was a constant reminder. The Mexican guys who found the grille, I'll bet they'll figure into the story somehow, causing more trouble for Walt and Jesse.

I loved the "meth selling" montage with the peppy music. It was very similar to the scene in season 1 where Jesse was out slinging crystal all night. That giggling junkie whore was beyond creepy. She actually played a skanky hooker on My Name Is Earl too. I guess that role suits her well, lol.

Skottey:

I don't think Hank has it all figured out, but I think it's plausible that he knows that Walt is involved somehow. One detail that keeps bothering me was - I seem to recall Tuco taking Walt's wallet at the time he discovered that his name wasn't Heisenberg, when Walt explains that Heisenberg is a business name. I don't recall Walt ever getting it back, and seem to recall it was left in the house. If so, I would imagine that it either would have been found by the authorities - or perhaps Tio has it. Or maybe I missed something, and he got his wallet back before fleeing the scene.

I would concur that Hank is not incompetent, and may be putting the pieces together. That said, he's also a family man, and I think it would be a tremendous conflict for him if he had to choose between protecting his family or doing the right thing professionally. I don't think Hank would, or could, confess this to anyone, and this would certainly explain his sudden withdrawn behavior and panic attack.

Perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree here, but I think it's quite plausible that Hank knows more than he is letting on.

I'm pretty sure Tuco gave Walter his wallet back right after he looked at the contents of it.

No, Tuco tossed the wallet in the field. Right?

conversequeen - Talk about humor! When Jesse drove up in that red (whatever-it-is) car just cracked me up!

And another funny from the preview - Jesse to Skinny Pete: "You got jacked by a guy named Spooge"? Oh, that's funny!

I think that Jesse should hire Clovis to be his muscle. He looks like a bad ass and would enjoy cracking some tweaker skulls if he is put on Jesse's payroll.

He is already hiring street dealers, he should also have someone making sure the deals don't go sour.

One thing I think that isn't quite accurate is the meth heads ripping off skinny Pete. Tweakers are crazy don't get me wrong but the one person they would never dare to screw over is their dealers. They would steal from everyone else under the sun but they also know that if they mess up on their drug deals they will never be able to score with that person again and that is the one place in teh world they don't want to be.

I'm sure it happens, but again I've encountered some pretty nasty tweakers in my day and they treat their drug dealers like God Almighty.. so stealing from them is possible but not practical. they also definitely wouldn't laugh in their faces and mock them if they did.

unforgiven- yeah that car was REALLY bad. i was like what a step down.

unforgiven- yeah that car was REALLY bad. i was like what a step down.

john in portland: I agree, you ARE barking up the wrong tree. Hank has no clue that his straight laced brother in law has anything to do with the meth crisis in ABQ. Skylar will be the one that figures it out first.
Check this theory out! The titles to the episodes have hidden meanings. Maybe they have clues to the entire season. The upcoming episode called "Peekaboo" is interesting because it refers to a game adults play with small children. I didn't see any small kids in the previews, but I would bet that a small child is going to play an important part in the next episode. Any thoughts out there. Yea/Nay????

James28-
Good observation about the skank and the role she played on My Name is Earl. I watch that show too but don't pay near as close attention and wouldn't have caught that. Was that the episode where they had a tornado and everybody's things were tossed around and mixed together? Although Earl is great comedy, it is unfortunate that the average American doesn't think much beyond such shows. It is dumb comedy. Good, but dumb. It is mindless, and that is what most people watch and leave it at that. As genius as Earl is (the writing), and it gets great ratings (because people are so shortsighted), I would trade it for another Breaking Bad quality show in a heartbeat. They have such a high budget and have had many cameos from famous actors, yet look how fantastic Breaking bad is on what has to be a fraction of the budget.Good catch, she does make a good skanky drugged out prostitute. I've seen her on many of the streets near my downtown, haha.

John in Portland-
I do think you are barking up the wrong tree. I think eventually Hank will catch on, but they have already renewed for another season and how many shows could they possibly do after Hank finds out? Once he does, things will come to an end fairly quickly with Walt and Jesse's operation, one way or the other. The only way I see it happening this season is if they kill off Hank. Killed by Walt no less. But I don't see that happening. I see this whole operation going on under Hank's nose for at least the rest of this season and most of next (assuming next season is the last season). As far as the IDs, I am pretty sure Tuco gave the IDs back after looking through them. Remember, he had every intention of taking the boys to Mexico to cook, probably killing Jesse on the way. He'd pretty much kidnapped Walt and Jesse, so he wouldn't have just left the evidence on the table. I think they put their wallets away, as the only thing sitting out was that ricin packet.

James26> I also liked the part where they're all scurrying around selling the meth. I think AMC should put out an album, "Music to Sling Meth By".

OK, here's my take/prediction.
Badger is an idiot and he will cause problems for Jesse and Walt.
He'll either sing to the cops or to other "interested parties".
Jesse sees it too but is letting it slide because of his greed.
Did anyone see the look Jesse gave him at the soda pop and pretzel party ?
Also, the fact that Jesse didn't lay down the law, regarding not talking to the police if any of them get caught, tells me someone is going to get caught, maybe Badger, maybe not.

Another excellent episode. Having seen so much of the cookers, cops and dealers, I was wondering when they were going to show the horrible effect meth has on addicts. I think Jessie is going to have his work cut out for him, going up against that scary twosome.
I think they deliberately made a point of showing us that Jessie's new home has a garbage disposal because it is going to figure in a future episode.
It strikes me that almost all the characters have a secret.
Walt Sr. - Cooks crystal meth
Jessie - Deals crystal meth
Skylar - Smokes and eats poorly while pregnant - busted by Walt Sr.
Skylar's sister - Cleptomaniac - worst kept secret of all.
Hank - Takes panic attacks. (Or had a minor heart attack. Actually, what is called a "mini stroke" would be a lot like that.)
Jessie's brother - Smokes pot.
Walt Jr. - Is he the only one not harbouring a secret? Or have we just not learned it yet?

hsjpatman-

"Also, the fact that Jesse didn't lay down the law, regarding not talking to the police if any of them get caught, tells me someone is going to get caught, maybe Badger, maybe not."

Although they didn't show the entire meeting, and if it needed to be said it was probably said off camera as he went further into detail with his new recruits, I would assume it is pretty much an unspoken rule in the drug trade that you don't narc out he who is above you or those you are selling to. In other words, you keep your mouth shut and take your punishment. Otherwise, you'll probably end up dead as a result of selling out in favor of enjoying a shorter jail sentence.

Having that said, all the recruits are a bunch of idiots.

Dew Flicky-

Maybe I am just an idiot but I have accidentally turned on the garbage disposal in just about every place I have ever moved into that had one, haha. I don't think it has significance, but maybe it does. We have to remember that every little thing isn't going to eventually come into play. It could just be a not so subtle way of showing how childish Jesse still is, flicking a switch on and off as he looks for a place, right in front of the landlady.

As far as what secrets we know, Skyler only actually smoked 3 1/2 ciggs before feeling guilt stricken and flushing the ciggs down the toilet. A pack of smokes is considerably too big to flush, so that would lead me to believe that she flushed them so she wouldn't be tempted to pull them out of the trash and smoke again. As far as eating poorly while pregnant, it could be that she just had a craving like pregnant women get, as she explained it. One example of eating garbage isn't a tell tale sign of ones eating habits. In fact, Walt made it a point to say he didn't think they still ate that stuff, as if he was surprised that she was eating so poorly. If she made a habit of eating Bon-bons while pregnant, I don't think Walt would be so alarmed at the one time we see her eating garbage.

One thing that has been brought up several times today, which I'd never put much thought into, is the fact that Walt Jr. is going out all the time now. It could be that he is just getting his independence like most 15 year old teens, but I tend to think now that there may be something up with him like others are picking up on.

If you watch the behind the scenes video on the website, where they interview and show you the set, including the RV's insides and how the panels can be removed for different camera angels, you'll notice that the kid who plays Walt Jr. seems really excited about the show. He seems far too excited for somebody that has had such a small role as we have seen up until now. I think his role gets more exciting and he comes into play more later this season. I mean really, he has not had a lot of screen time, yet he seems to really be excited during the interview. Just watch it and see for yourself. Maybe he gets to be a major part of the climax somehow. Perhaps he is the one that finds out Daddy's secret. I don't think he is doing meth himself, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is getting into some sort of trouble and maybe sees his dad at his worst. Maybe it is something as simple as he and the friend going out into the middle of nowhere and shooting beer bottles with a gun, and finding the RV and his dad's car.

On another note, I appreciate greatly that they actually cast somebody with the disability to play the part, as opposed to somebody faking the part.

Great ep, great comments. Dunno what to add, really.

Does anyone know the title of the track that was played while they're selling the meth all over town ?

Cheers :)

skottey and dew flicky-
I totally agree about Walt Jr (or Flynn I guess), I sensed that a lot during this episode. He seems to spend a lot of time with Louis. Every time Walt asks where he is he's always with the exact same kid, which strikes me as a bit strange. And Louis teaching him how to drive? What friends teach each other how to drive? I could be completely wrong, maybe Louis and him have just become extremely close since Walt Sr's hardly around. Still, I like the idea that he is harboring a secret too. Everything going on with his parents has a huge impact on him, we just haven't been exposed to it yet.

I have such mixed feelings about Jesse. I won't lie, I loved when he got in Walt's face and started to take control of the situation. He's been getting screwed a lot lately, with his parents kicking him out and all of his friends basically abandoning him (by the way, did anyone else notice that his musician friend's wife was the girl he slept with in the very first episode when he crawled out the window? That's why he had to leave. I loved that they brought that back in, it was kind of nostalgic =])
But the end with the gun? Jesse is a good person and has the potential to be so much more. Walt's craving for money and revenge is influencing Jesse. He's my favorite character, and I know this is a show about morality and corruption but I am going to be really upset if he turns into Tuco. I've never felt this deeply about any show or movie I've ever seen, and even though I know this isn't going to work out for anyone in the end, it's fascinating and I can't stop watching. I've been with Breaking Bad since Day 1, and I will be until the very end!

Yes, I saw Walt put all of the contents back into his wallet, and put the wallet in his pocket. I have been wondering where that packet of ricin laced meth went to? Walt did not put all of it into Tuco's burrito.....

I've been saying right along that Walt Jr. is gonna come up real big in some upcoming episode, and now I'm convinced of it after seeing that Louis kid. He gives me the vibes as the silent type around the adults, but is probably into something that he might drag Walt Jr. into.

After reading the ep. 6 preview thing on the Home Page that "Jesse gets more than he bargained for". I am really geeked up to find out what's gonna happen there. Any guesses from anybody?

Speaking of which, I am REALLY geeked up on everything about this show! Every episode. I told my brother about it, and now HE'S hooked too. I'm trying to get my wife to start watching it with me, but won't because there's no lovey-dovey shit in it.

Everybody's saying stuff in their posts like "I'm gonna hate Walt or Jesse turning into some kind of Tuco-type person", but the grim reality is that they may HAVE to in order to be competitive in the rough drug world. If they don't show that they're just as nuts and crazy as all the other whack-job dealers, everybody's gonna shit all over them.

skottey I agree, the lady junkie's laugh, which sounded like a cross between a machine gun and Woody Woodpecker, just about drove me over the edge. Shoot her first, Jesse!

It won't surprise me if Walt Jr aka Flynn and his friend, Louis, either start experimenting/sampling Walt Sr's blue crystal meth or Junior evolves into a street seller for Jesse in some weird backhanded way. That would be irony at its premium - Walt's son is dealing or using his own creation.

And laz, I too, think Walt is and will become the most cold-blooded of them all.

There's that fable of not stepping on the tiger's tail unless you can handle it. Walt's tail has been stepped on for years, and met with passive acceptance. Does anyone else notice how Walt's aggressive tendencies are growing in response to various situations and people? Can you imagine what Walt's response would or could be, when, after going through all this to amass this money for his family, they continue to slowly reject him? What if, in the end, the sacrifice of his morals, principles, and humanity, to provide security for the family he loved so much ends up being a moot point? All for naught.....because they no longer love Walt because of who he became?

Don't comment often, but been with BB since ep #1. Most interesting show on television. I, also, have come to empathize with Jesse and Hank more, and Walter less, as the characters evolve.
I think Hank is mainly suffering PTSD from the shoot-out and possibly insecurities about the promotion (going from Big Shark in a small pool to small shark in Big Pool syndrome), but it's probable that in the back of his mind a possible Walter connection is making him uneasy. He has seen plenty of circumstantial evidence already. Also, "Heisenberg" kind of stands out as a street name, compared to Crazy8, No-Doz, Cap'n Cook, etc. Any agent worth his salary would research a nickname like that and make the scientist connection. I think the humor is still there, just more subtle. Yes, the "look" that Jesse gave Badger at the planning meeting was priceless! I like the way AMC shows an episode twice because I catch more details the second time, for instance, the name of Clovis's wrecker service- "Crank It Up" !!

I also want to make the comment that some people I know refuse to watch even one episode because they see a preview and think it's a show "glorifying" meth, or making light of it. If only they would watch one episode, any episode, they would realize that one of the main points this show makes is that there is NO SUCH THING as easy money with no bad consequences, at least, not for long.

conversequeen - Is the 'converse' part of your name, like, conversational or converse the sneakers? (Yes, I have three pairs of them (black hi-tops)).

Breaking Bad is purely a morality play with all the consequences shown in graphic, heartbreaking terms.

jamm54 - "Breaking Bad is purely a morality play with all the consequences shown in graphic, heartbreaking terms" 'Waaa' . stop being a cry-baby. It's called 'entertainment'.

Unforgiven I didn't mean to sound like a cry-baby - I love this show. Whether a morality play in my mind or not in yours, it's entertaining as hell. That term doesn't exclude it from being entertainment.

Hopefully Walts character becomes darker because Jesse is getting robbed by mindless addicts and that alright with him. Lets not forget why he got in this business.To provide for his family with his shortened time alive. Jesse's crew is bound to dive and they need some no nonsense kind of leadership to sustain it. Jesse took the responsibility of the "business" half of the operation, so he should "take care of it". A high school teacher as the main distributer of meth in Albq......genius.....great show

What was with the two guys swimming across the Rio Grande. I know they were supposed to illegal aliens, but it seems kind of stupid to swim across the river in Albuquerque.Why not walk across one of the many bridges? It's not like it's anywhere near the border.

Maybe the writers need to pay more attention to detail.

woodworkergreg said "What was with the two guys swimming across the Rio Grande. I know they were supposed to illegal aliens, but it seems kind of stupid to swim across the river in Albuquerque.Why not walk across one of the many bridges? It's not like it's anywhere near the border.

Maybe the writers need to pay more attention to detail."

No, I think it is you woodworker greg that needs to start paying more attention to the show. Hank got a promotion, which splits his time between the Albuquerque and El Paso DEA offices. He obviously threw the grille at a crossing near the El Paso field office. There are 90 plus comments on this forum thread and this has already been discussed here.

Perhaps you should stick with woodworking or pay closer attention to both the thread and the show.

Skottey-I agree about Earl. I stopped watching it a long time ago because I realized how mindless it is, like pretty much everything else on network tv. I think that hooker's been in a few episodes, on a recurring basis.

DRKellogg-Great idea about "Music to Sling Meth to"! I would buy that cd! :)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the look that Jesse shot Badger as he popped a pretzel into his mouth at the end of that scene! He knows that Badger could be the one to screw up big time!

jamm54 I apologize.

Unforgiven, when I wrote that about the morality thing it did sound pretentious but somebody was asking something somewhere (yeah, right!). LOL. thanks

Regarding Tuco's grill: According to the Episode 5 Podcast, Hank has not yet gone to El Paso. He threw the grill into the Rio Grande in Albuquerque. It was carried by the current down to where the river forms the U.S./Mexico border, which is where the Mexican guys found it on the riverbank. It seems like a stretch for it to travel so far (would that cube even float?), but that's their story and they're sticking to it.

Dew Flicky-

It does seem a little far to travel down a river, but they didn't say how much time passed between him pitching it and them finding it did they? Also, notes in bottles have been known to be found halfway around the world in the oceans, so I suppose anything is possible. I think they'd have been better off not trying to explain it.

What is this podcast? I am going to go look, but I haven't listened to them on this site before. Is it a Q&A each week?

Maybe worth a listen for sure.

They do a podcast about the episode each week....

http://blogs.amctv.com/breaking-bad/podcasts/

I'm pretty computer illiterate.. Can anyone explain how to save the podcast to your computer and then into itunes so that I can listen to the podcast on my ipod?

Click on the "Blog" tab near the upper right of this page, and you'll find the podcast near the middle of the blog page. This one is a round table discussion. I don't know how to save it.

unforgiven- it's converse like the shoe.

As far as Hank's PTSD, I think he'll be seeing Marie's shrink now.

Noah said--"john in portland, and alex: We must be watching different shows. Season 2 has much more depth, many more story liines than season one." I figure I'm the other person included here. I don't think the show has lost anything at all. I too am amazed when it's over and cringe over every commercial interruption. My only thought was that I'd like a couple of more humor touches. A good example of one was when Jesse and Walt were out in the desert with Tio and Tuco, unarmed, and Jesse suggested they smash Tuco over the head. Walt sarcastically waved a fly swatter, as if to say, what with--this? Those are the fun moments.

As for Hank, it's not surprising his trip out there that day is coming back to haunt him, literally. He expected fo find what he supposed was a snot-nosed Jesse, a kid involved with some small time stuff, and instead finds himself alone and face-to-face with a man he knows is a psycho. No back up, no fancy storm troopers with lots of flashing lights and Panzer-size vehicles. It was a horrible surprise and I think he knows how easily he could have been killed. AND, I don't remember for sure if it was mentioned in past episodes, he might never have actually killed someone before.

I don't think Skyler believes Walt's "fugue" state; it was patently implied in her response about the smoking.

I enjoyed the episode. Even though there weren't any huge developments, there were lots of moves toward reconciliation: Skylar and Hank are talking again, as are Skyler and Marie. And Jesse paid off the Clovis. (Though there may be a double-cross in their future.)

Hank and Jesse are both using what they've learned so far-- especially Jesse, who is keeping the drug use out of his new rental apartment. He knows that he's on the DEA's radar, so he's watching himself.

New developments include Walt's insistence that Jesse use violence and retribution to protect the business from "breakage." Also a promotion for Hank, who also may be developing health problems of his own.

Reading the above comments, I agree that Hank's panic attack might be a result of him getting promoted to a position where he's in over his head.

I'm glad a lot of the many pressure points are at least partially resolved, with new ones opening up.

dew flicky said: "he threw the grill into the Rio Grande in Albuquerque. It was carried by the current down to where the river forms the US/Mexico border.
Skottey said: Notes in bottles have been known to be found half way around the world.
With all due respect to both of you, the Rio Grande in N.M. has a huge resevoir called "Elephant Butte", so for the grille to make it to the US/Mexico border, it would have to miraculously get over the DAM!!! lol
Hank had to throw the grill in the R. G. on the US/Mexico border.
Regarding '#6 entitled Peekaboo' I still think a central figure in the story line is going to be a little kid. No takers???

I think Hank had a pulmonary embolism. That's what he seemed to be showing signs of.

ironCanadian: For sure Hank showed some of the signs for p.e., but alot of signs that can show up with this problem were nowhere to be found. Excessive sweating, bluish colored skin, fainting. Still think it is a good ole fashion 'panick attack'. He never had any physical problems until he came face to face with Tuco out in the very lonely desert of New Mexico, where that desert. can just swallow you up. If it was something other than anxiety, he would have kept the grill.

Noah-

I understand what you are saying. My theory was that Hank threw the grille in the river near the El Paso field office but it was explained away in that podcast that he threw it and it drifted down the driver near the border, and that is the story they are sticking with. They should have not tried to explain it because like you pointed out, it doesn't make sense that it drifted there. We are all over-analyzing this stuff to the point where they feel like they have to answer for everything. Can't he just throw the grille in the river some place and us not question it?

Some people are saying things like, "Hank turned on a light switch, and I think that has significance later in the series." I think we all really enjoy the show and think about it a lot. I know I do. Maybe we all just need to step back and enjoy it, LOL. We have all been right and wrong on certain predictions, and it is fun. What I don't like is when somebody who has seen the shows in advance of the air date comes on here and tells us what is going to happen, like was done earlier this season. That is no fun for anybody. It is like going to the movies with somebody who has seen the movie and they sit there and say, "watch this part," and "he is going to kill her here, watch this!" It ruins it.

Great show, great forum, great fun. Such a rarity these days.

Skottey

I agree with the over anyalizing. However, that being said, it is such a rush to have a show where you can actually 'THINK' and try to see if you can pick up the clues, because they, are giving us reasons to believe clues are to be had if you just pay attention. (Pink bear, evidence packets etc.)
So---------------what do you think about my theory Skottey? You know.....the young kid in Peekaboo. Like to know your take.

LOL @ skottey's "light switch" comment. :)

The Peekaboo meaning is a tough one. I'm sure after the show it will make complete sense, as did the episode Down.

If I had to guess, there isn't a small child, rather, Jesse is that small child. It may be some sort of game of cat and mouse with Jessee and that knife wielding douchebag that robbed his underling. It looks like in the scenes from next week a fat hippie haired guy is shot dead against a wall, but that isn't the guy that robbed with the knife. Maybe Jesse kills the wrong guy by mistake or that guy goes after Jesse while he is going after the robber guy. Maybe that fat hippie guy shot dead is the pimp of the skank (who's giggle and facial image is now embedded in my head for God knows how long).

For all we know, Jesse kills the wrong guy and out comes Clovis (is that his name?) the tow truck driver. Peekaboo, here he is again and he knows your game Jesse.

I cannot wait for Sunday. I haven't looked forward to a show each week in a long time the way I look forward to Breaking Bad. Why can't we have more good TV like this? Especially at a time when life and the economy is so depressing. This show is such relief at such a time in history. Glad we have it.

That's a good prediction skottey. People normally associate "Peekaboo" with somebody secretly watching someone or something, and then revealing themselves in sort of a surprising type of way. Maybe the DEA is doing surveilance on our heroes?

skottey

You might be right about the cat and mouse angle. I just have a hard time getting away from the game of peekaboo played with little kids by there parents, or relatives. I never played peekaboo with someone my own age or older. I've been wrong before, but I have a strong suspicion that a little kid is going to be in episode 6, and play a major part.

After the Masters Sunday, I can't wait for this upcoming episode. It will be amazing I'm sure.

Episode Peekaboo...... Hmmm.... I still think we have not seen the last of the private investigator. Is this where Skylar has been? Following Pinkman around?

When Hank had his anxiety attack, and then took a one day leave after his promotion, I was kind of surprised.

Usually when the police are involved in some kind of shooting, they are given some time off in paid leave while the incident is investigated, and there is a debriefing. Is it different for DEA agents? Why does Hank have to take his own time off (a day), rather than it being automatically given to him? It is a pretty traumatic situation, after all. Or is the DEA considered tougher or what? Anyone know the answer?

hsjpatman said: "Jesse sees it too but is letting it slide because of his greed." I guess I haven't picked up on Jesse's greed. I just see Walts greed. Remember when Walt asked Jesse "What has changed Jesse". Jesse was willing to walk away, Walt keeps pulling him back in because of GREED!!!
hsjpatman also said: "Did anyone see the look Jesse gave him (badger) at the soda pop and pretzel party." My wife and I were watching the show and when Jesse gave that look, we both just turned to each other and said, wow, that's some amazing acting. We even rewound (DVR) and paused it. Great great look. Even better acting!!

I dont think it is all Walt's greed
Heck, the man is dying and needs to leave something to his family and has resigned himself to the fact his life is over and it's love of his family that drives him
I do see him becoming harder but chalk that up to hos "learning curve"
I don't mind that as much as Hank's cowboy attitudes and cavalierness he shows towards humanity in general

Jesse has his own greed and showed himself becoming more hardened when he called Mr White 'walt' and told him he needed him more than the other way around. Jesse knows Walt is right about letting people walk on you in that game
but he repeated the 'division of labor' and with that comes responsibility as well!
The selling is easy The cooking is a lot more difficult to do in a clandestine fashion and amc really makes it look far too easy as even acquiring
the simplest labware is well nigh impossible unless you have a licensed company nowadays due to new laws and such---even with Walt using the furnace method to produce his own phenylacetic acid to turn it into phenylacetone as well as even finding a barrel of methylamine today in the USA.
I see a lot of flaws in the show which make it quite unbelievable to me, on several levels, but I enjoy the quality of the acting in the show- a lot!
Otherwise, the authenticity of it is laughable and the obvious anti-meth attitudes in the show a bit overwrought.
Heck, it's portrayals look like one of those BOGUS before meth and after meth shots the cops show of that blonde woman (and it came-out it wasnt the same woman at all)!
Not to say meth is a good drug but no drug is bad if used in moderation as far as Im concerned
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Also
Skyler showed she did not believe in Walt's story when he disappeared when she mocked him with that fugue state comment as per her smoking
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Walt DID get his wallet back--look when tuco tosses it all back on the table Walt puts everything back together and into his pocket
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Hank has no clue about Walt--not even a bit
He was amazed that Walt would even try pot
"Didnt think he had it in him"
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Laughed at Clovis' truck logo, "crank it up"
c'mon!
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Badger will screw-up
That whole crew is shaky
Even Jesse gave Badger a look at the 'business' meeting
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Im curious about pink/red eyeless stuffed toy and all....
Looks like Walt may have had a meth lab explosion at his home ......
Perhaps Skyler leaves him and he cooks at home with disasterous results as TV and the media love to portray the act of refluxing meth to be a lot more dangerous than it is--hence a good ending to be an explosion (for the usual tv-land moral lesson )
and the hazmat team arriving or Skyler allowing him to cook at home--would seem unbelievable but who knows
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It will all end disasterously as TV has to show that to get it by the government regulators
It is amazing to me that they even allowed a show that portrayed a meth lab--albeit a very inaccurate portrayal-- but I suppose with enough of the anti-drug hype they are putting into the show it was given a go

Good acting---

NO, great acting (I love Jesse's role and ability to act) but.....

Flawed premise and portrayals of people in that life as well as lack of realism
Going thru all the steps Walt does to make the quantity he does could never be accomplished in
a rig like he has and in such a quick turnaround---many steps take many days. Just as his quickie
ricin making. That's risky and takes SERIOUS precautions and setup to produce from castor beans unless you want to die doing so

Also
The crazy prices Tuco was paying for a lb
Typical cop bs
Like when they bust a guy with a key and call it a half million in steet value
Too many cops fostering their cop-nonsense on this show! They should have used Greg P. of "meth book fame" to show realistic scenarios

At least with Jesse pushing now--the prices are a bit more accurately portrayed
but the buyers look like freaks from some crazed horror show or blue velvet scenario

Admittedly, I only know the chemistry of meth and not the end user types but those I have seen in RL are nothing as portrayed on this show
It's too much propaganda and ruins the realism of the show.

this show is really good and has yet to loose my intrest but to me it does seem to be losing some of the sarcastic dark humor from 1st season.... and i am about fed up with skyler... i understand she is upset and knows he is lying to her about something even though she don't know what... but i say if your that miserable then leave don't hurt the baby by smoking and eatting things that can harm it .. the baby didn't do anything to you .... and i know this is kinda anal but about walt's mustache... i am a person who's mother died of cancer and i know that when she took kemo she lost all her hair not just on her head but all over her body...so i am kinda annoyed by his mustache i can get over the eyebrows i wouldn't want to shave them off for a tv show either but the mustache is driving me crazy....sorry... am a big fan but maybe just maybe we could loose the mustache for his next round of kemo... i mean if we can make the crack ho that realistic and scary then can't we make the kemo alittle more realistic too...i mean when the doctor said your hair should start growing back i wanted to throw something at the tv.. I know I know maybe i should lay off the caffine right ... LOL

I really had a great time on the show. The cast and crew are the best! Badger saved my butt! Johann completely changed my script seconds before filming. If not for Badger I would have looked like an idiot. Badger took it fairly well having a tranny flirting with him. He is a very good actor.

danno said "Not to say meth is a good drug but no drug is bad if used in moderation as far as Im concerned"

I agree that any natural drug like Marijuana is not bad if used in moderation.

But I would not put Meth in that same category.

Even small amounts of meth can harm you. I've never tried the stuff, but I am aware of some of the chemicals and acids that go into the stuff.

Is this wrong?
http://www.kci.org/meth_info/sites/Riverside_County.htm

Is that like Reefer Madness is to pot and not real? Or is that stuff really what goes in Meth?

There is a huge difference between putting that stuff in your body and marijuana, moderation or not.

Noah-I totally agree about the look that Jesse gave. That can be called the "Don't screw up, Badger" look, lol. It's amazing that something as simple as a look someone gives can cause so much conversation, but it's a testament to the great acting on this show!

Danno-As far as the meth users not being realistic, a lot of them do look like that, and also, in the first season, Jesse was selling meth to all sorts of different people, including a pretty normal-looking woman who was doing laundry in a laundromat.

Paula-Are you really the one who played the tranny that Badger sold meth to? That's awesome! :)

Hi James, yes I'm the transwoman that bought meth from Badger in episode 5. The director was actually looking for a slightly thinner and taller transgender woman for the part, but I got the job. That scene was filmed on Lomas Blvd in Albuquerque on August 25. The location was across the street from a pizza place just west of the corner of Lomas and San Mateo. Occaisonally I see Badger in a TV commercial for a muffler repair business. He's a really nice guy. Everyone on the set was very nice.

Now *this* is what I'm talking about, for the most part. I was getting a little weighed down with ennui after episode 4, feeling we were seeing too much of the same up/down/back-to-square-one repetition that we'd already been through during season 1. It's a great story but it needs to go places, not just endlessly repeat a cycle of Walt and Jesse bumbling about never getting anywhere. I know one of the points of this show is to combine their rise with realistic human consequences, but I feared the writers were getting too timid; it was time for these characters to start showing some real evolution again. If it's in the direction of the "bad," well, hey, the show's called Breaking Bad, not Breaking Good. I'm all for it.

Consequently, I loved seeing Jesse grow a pair and develop some newfound aspirations regarding his role in the partnership, and I love Walt telling him he needs to "handle" the situation at the end (presumably meaning teach the mofo's who ripped off your guy a lesson.) The gun feels a bit much, I'm not sure the show needs to jump into turning the pair into conscienceless murderers, but in a weird way I do hope to see Jesse get retribution for Skinny Pete and learn to control his turf.

I do wish Walt would settle down a little bit, he's been nothing but hateful to Jesse since the Tuco incident, and the Tuco incident wasn't even Jesse's fault. Prior to that, Walt was almost becoming fatherly towards him. I'd rather not see that go away completely. I hope Walt will cool off a bit -- I want the writers to understand, it doesn't have to be *constant* conflict and drama. It's okay for Walt and Jesse to get along, and have some good times here and there. If their relationship grows too antagonistic it'll be throwing away one of the show's most central and interesting dynamics.

I agree with other viewers who are growing a little tired of Skylar. I know Walt's put her in a difficult situation, but their relationship has gotten so bleak. It's a tough situation to resolve -- I don't envy the writers their task. Could Skylar possibly handle being brought into the fold of Walt's new drug-world? Does she have a little "bad" in her, herself, that Walt could tap into to bring them closer together, even if it's down an ultimately doomed pathway? It's tough to picture at this stage, but she'll undoubtedly have to find out at some point. I want her and Walt to be a team somehow, without sacrificing the 'breaking bad' drug aspect of the story.

I think Walt saying "handle it" to Jesse at the end is also an instruction to himself in regards to his family, which is drifting and out of control. Skylar's doing things that are unhealthy for her baby, Walt Jr.'s up to who-knows-what. I suspect in upcoming episodes Walt will assert greater control over his wife and kid, and that's actually something I want to see. But it's going to be tricky to pull off -- balancing the fair, realistic, human element of the situation with the show's obligation to ongoing drama centered around Walt "breaking bad." Still, tough.

To the writers I challenge: "Handle it."

danno,

I have to agree with your last comment. When TV shows a special on meth users it usually only shows the ones that have hit rock bottom and lost their souls. The majority of meth users I knew had great jobs, nice houses. Many of them were housewives, some lawyers a couple of doctors, policeman, firemen, etc.

Only in the movies and tv do we see the junkie with their skin picked apart, unkempt, and all their teeth falling out. They are a very small minority of user.

Most of the dealers I used to know would never sell to street junkies. They are unreliable sources of income. Don't get me wrong, they are there and do exist, but are a small percentage of meth users. I know alot of people that stopped doing meth without going to rehab or anything. They just quit no problem. No withdrawals no shakes or anything. Just did it for a while and stopped. It never had them in the throes of addiction. It was just a party drug and nothing more.

RCH2288-

Like any point a TV piece is trying to prove, they will always show the worst of the worst if it proves their point. Like when they are trying to close a casino and they show gambling addicts, nevermind the 99% of people that know when to say no. They will focus on the one guy that gambled away everything, as if it was the gambling and not the personal responsibility.

Meth, like the gambling is the vehicle to hitting rock bottom. There is a certain percentage of Americans that are going to hit rock bottom one way or the other, whether they are gamblers, sexual deviates, alcoholics, it doesn't matter. I can have a few cocktails and set aside $200 for the casino while my brother gets shitfaced and blows everything he has in the casino. Should they make gambling illegal because of the possibility of self destruction? I say no. Same with tobacco or alcohol. No... don't ban it to save a few. You aren't really saving a few. They will find a different way to self destruct without gambling,alcohol, etc.

They use the argument that Marijuana is the gateway drug. You could say beer is the gateway alcohol. You could say McDonalds is the gateway restaurant. That gateway crap is foolish.

In my late teens, early 20's, I was at that point a seasoned drinker like most kids my age and smoked pot often, even tried LSD several times when I was 18-19. I also tried cocaine, which at the time was all the rage with the kids in college or not. It just wan't for me.I tried it straight, laced on my pot, never did crack, but the point is, it wasn't for me. If I was already in a downward spiral and speed was my sort of thing, I may have latched onto the coke and gone with it. But I wasn't. And even if I did, it wouldn't have been the coke's fault, it would have been mine.

From what I have heard about Meth, it is pretty gripping. So even if you have somebody that is slightly in decline, slightly on the downturn, it can give them a speedy trip to rock bottom. Meth is the worst of the worst. I've never done it. I've never seen it. I have been around everything else just about, but Meth seems to be the worst possibly thing out there right now to give somebody that is predisposed to self destruction. If you have it in your DNA to self destruct, Meth is one easy way to go. I'm not saying it is the Meth's fault specifically. The Meth is just a vehicle to get there. These people would self destruct, hit that downward spiral, and hit rock bottom ANYWAY. This is just a vehicle to get there fast. The problem is hurting people and society worse on their way down. They are effecting everybody around them, sometime violently.

Interesting quick story. In the early 2000's, I was in my late 20's and in between marriages. I lived in a residential apartment building with a nice panoramic view from the 8th floor of the city skyline right outside my building. The economy was good and there was a lot of activity going on. I was making about $48K which was good for my city for the cost of living, so I was living pretty good and paid only $975 month rent for such a sweet deal, 2 bedroom, 1 bath. Well, I used to go jogging everyday and I saw all types. From the rock bottom homeless that you could tell had their share of drinking and drug problems to the rich people in some of the other buildings living in $6 million penthouses. It was such a mix of people all intertwined in such a small but active downtown area. I felt safe enough during the day to walk my kid to the park or movies. But it was inside my own building that I saw the worst. If you think $975 was a good deal for a 8th floor corner unit with a wraparound balcony and a view of the downtown, waterfront, small city airport, you should seen some of the rents for the other residents. The building had all types. There were tiny efficiencies with a window facing the air conditioners or dumpsters and no view of the city. These things could be had for like $200 a month and you should have seen the people. Well, I was fortunate, or unfortunate, enough to meet some of them. There were people without a lot of money, working their way up the ladder of life, and there where people with money on their way down. There was a guy that previously owned three nightclubs and was living in a $200 a month room smoking as much crack and shooting as much heroine as he could get his hands on. It was like chutes and ladders. I was a young twentysomething with a professional job working on my career, and others were working their way down the chutes.

Eventually, I got out of there, remarried, and bought a house. But one thing I took away from that is that it really is the person, not the drug or the gun or the whatever. The person pulls the triigger, the person shoots up, smokes, or snorts the drug, and the person pays for the sex.

All we do is go around as a nation and take a few bad tomatoes and let them spoil the whole bunch. Some people cannot handle buying a prostitute, it is banned. Some people cannot handle gambling, it is banned, etc.

But I think it might be just a little worse with Meth. I am not saying it is Meth's fault, but I am saying it is taking people that are already on the edge, and it pushes them through that downward spiral much faster, and it happens so fast, that children and violence victims and a lot of other people get hurt big time in ones way down.

You cannot intervene and help when somebody goes from point A to point B at warp speed. It isn't like a slowly progressing alcohol problem where the family realizes daddy is becoming a worse alcoholic and they need to do something. I know of a few Meth users that made that downward spiral so fast. Rock bottom was probably what they needed to turn their lives around, but they were such a danger on the way down. There'd have been no time to help these people by intervention.

I am the type of guy that advocates legalizing and taxing pot, prostitution (never used one myself but you should be able to), and certain other things that we as society have made illegal. But Meth.... we need to keep that out of the hands of everybody. Just being ten feet from the ledge with Meth is so dangerous. It can help push along the guy who was gonna hit rock bottom eventually anyway, and shove him over the edge into disaster.

Is there really any moderation with Meth? And if so, how long can it go on? Eventually, I think all but the very very strong will fall if they start using Meth. It isn't like pot or a casino where most people can handle it just fine. It isn't a creeping addiction like the well intended adult who becomes an alcoholic over two decades. Meth can pull at even the strongest of the strong, and only the elite few will escape the ultimate outcome of rock bottom with Meth. Unlike anything else we have seen before. Any thoughts on this?

I want to know when Hank finally pieces it all together and figures out that Heisenberg is Walt and what happens then?

Paula-So glad you decided to post here! It would be awesome if more people from the show did that as well. I've also seen Badger in those muffler repair commercials. He's the funniest character on the show, and one of my favorites! :)

He's not wearing a muffler is he? Like the dollar bill he was outside the bank in one episode?

Cheers Paula!!! Cool of you to post on here!!

JESUS THIS ROBIN WILLIAMS MOVIE ON AMC RIGHT NOW IS KILLING ME........its terrible..........hahahaha sorry

Skottey,

Well put. I guess that is what I was implying by my short comment. You hit the nail on the head. Meth is more dangerous for those individuals that are in a down spiral.

Has anyone else seen the other commercial with Badger. I forget what they are even selling in the commercial. I just remember he is the mail boy or some other low level entry position in a company, he walks into his bosses office and the boss tells him the office is his (completely decked out) and that he will get every perk under the sun. All the while Badger ( don't know his real name...LOL) is looking very confused by the whole thing.......

I cannot wait for the show tonight. I love it, I love it, I love it..... I haven't looked forward to TV like this in so long. It is kind of like that feeling I had when I was a kid and Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi came out. I couldn't wait to go see them. It was so exciting. I remember when they announced Back to the Future II/III. Same feeling of anticipation. I don't get this feeling very often. Maybe during the first season of Jericho and to a lesser degree HBO's Carnivale.

One thing I have not seen come up in this forum is a recommendation of anything else similar to Breaking Bad.

Anybody- For those of us that just love Breaking Bad, is there anything else we can really sink our teeth into that you would recommend? There must be some other hidden gems out there.

I have DVR'd all the True Blood season one shows but have not even watched them yet. Is that any good?

Pretty much the only other fare I watch on TV on a reoccurring episodic basis these days is Locked up Abroad, Family Guy, Simpsons, American Dad, The Office, checking out the new show Parks and Recreation, Dog the Bounty Hunter (for the make fun of it factor), My Name is Earl. That is pretty much it for reoccurring shows and nothing gives me that excitement of Breaking Bad coming on each week.

Any suggestions?

jamm54-LOL! No, Badger's not wearing a muffler in the commercial. That dollar bill costume was priceless though! :)

RCH-Badger looking confused? Hmmm, there's something new. LOL! :)

skottey-I would recommend any show on FX. There's nothing quite like Breaking Bad, but it's all really good, and pretty edgy for basic cable. The new season of Rescue Me is on Tuesdays right now, and Sons of Anarchy returns in the fall, which is also really good.

Skottey- The only other show I MUST watch is RENO 911 on comedy central(reruns on a couple other stations too)....even though they just lost my favorite officer(Garcia) !

Its hilarious!

There was a good show that was on ABC called "Life on Mars". I think they canceled it from signing for a new season this fall. It was about a cop who was in an accident in present day, and when he woke up he was in 1973. Helped the police at that time fight cases using his 2008/09 thinking. Was a really cool show, and don't understand why they shitcanned it. I guess the network felt needed to put other shows on with more sex, filth, and homosexuality to please people. Another good show I watch that's really been around a looong time is the original Law And Order. Still love it after like almost 20 years. Good thing BB isn't in the same time slot!

I don't agree with your comment about homosexuals. I think it's great that gay people are on tv more often these days. I do, however, have a problem with them being exploited, and with all the negatively stereotyped ones on tv.